Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions. Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.
Luis Jenkins
pls no
Elijah Ramirez
Cool story. You think you are going to convince the Alt-rights and Nazis here?
Mason Allen
YOU STAY AWAY FROM ME
Noah Jackson
Centrism Is the ultimate red pill, why aren't you a based Centrist ?
Robert Hall
Right-wingers call us socialists fascists because they don't know what either means.
Jason Reed
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Charles Diaz
>work is bad
I have a book for you commie scum, I think you will love it.
why did that one gal keep her socks on? is there something wrong with her feet?
Ryan King
nice lecture >capitalists lower wages >people have less capital to buy stuff >capitalists loan people money which they can't pay back >crisis each 8 years or less
Dominic Miller
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Leo Butler
You know memes don't disprove anything.
Sebastian Young
Bread lines
Eli Campbell
Yes, more of the millions you killed without provocation, just because you wanted to spread this kike ideology. You faggots starved 5 million in Ukraine and around 2 million Russians just to fund an army to destroy Europe years before the beginning of WWII. If the communist men weren't in attack positions along the German border, Hitler wouldn't have had to strike. Luckily he held out long enough to keep at least half of Europe with a history and functioning economies.
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Owen Watson
First off cunt. I never killed anybody. And if the Ukrainians didn't want to die, they just shouldn't have been Kulaks. Besides that, why do you think that all Communism is the same.
Jace Sullivan
Nazis also killed 6 Million Jews, Both Communism and Nazism are bad
Parker Cook
Well I can try
Benjamin Fisher
IT DOES NOT WORK IT DOES NOT WORK
Everything that falls under public rule eventually turns to shit. This includes public toilets, popular restaurants, and democratic countries.
If you want something good, your best bet is that some shut-in capitalist with severe OCD owns and operates it. Take a look at IKEA, or Singapore.
Jaxson Wright
What did capitalism mean by this?
Blake Sanchez
See, if the system is capitalist, it's individuals killing other individuals. If it's communist, it's a government mass murdering people who don't see things the same way as they do.
Because all communism kills.
Any evidence of that big claim you got there bucko? Quit spouting long discredited crap.
Sebastian Ross
When called to account for the collosal death toll bought about the jewish trickery of (((communism))) which response do you choose;
Whataboutery; Capitalism kills people too. No true scotsman; That wasn't real communism.
Jayden Cook
ummmm, I didn't say that the USSR wasn't socialist. I'm just saying that a lot of socialists don't condone the USSR.
Adam Flores
>US WORLD POWER BY 2020
Alexander Powell
50 U.S. Code § 842 - Proscription of Communist Party, its successors, and subsidiary organizations US
The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated
Sebastian Sanders
That pig guy is the weakest meme, you can tell the left would love for him to be pepe tier but nobodies interested. Nobody wants your class nonsense, the only chance you have at reaching useful idiots anymore is by dying your hair pink and screaming black lives matter.
Ayden Wright
As if Capitalism doesn't do that. And stop talking to me like some fucking Anarchist or something.
Ryan Peterson
Drugs are for niggers, let them die in the streets of their own accord.
Matthew Flores
>This kills the capitalism
Joseph Bennett
You know most Leftists don't support BLM right? Infact, it's almost always the right wingers supporting them.
Sebastian Garcia
The jews were fucked by communism too, you stupid white nigger.
Stop conflating elite global politicians with everyday people.
And you miss the point that with the excessive merit that jews bring to society, white trash like yourself benefits as well. You're not excising a tumor or removing an obsolete organ, you're cutting out a valuable part of your brain.
But yeah, socialism has classically been a plague. An excuse for those in power to control the rest authoritatively.
Jackson Moore
Why are people still responding to the crazy spanish lefty/pol/ commie tranny? He has started almost 1300 identical threads over the past 6 months.
Seriously stop responding to those autistic lefty/pol/ neckbeards this is literally what they look like that's their discord page they organize the raids from.
Easton Sanders
CHECKED
Thomas Barnes
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Xavier Garcia
>Sup Forums useful idiot general
Greetings "comrades". Are you an edgy teenager? Are you a spoiled rich kid trying to get back at your parents for not funding that trip to the Bahamas? Are you a poor faggot that hates working for anything?
Then have we got a deal for you!
JOIN US!
We promise to take shit from others to give to you for NO FUCKING REASON! Of course, what we really need are idiots, like you, willing to fight and die in the streets so that our financiers can sit in their offices and gated communities risk free while you get your heads kicked in and thrown in jail. THEN, should we achieve some measure of success, we'll just murder all you losers when you realize that you're NOT going to get all the "free" shit you thought you were and start to complain about it.
So JOIN US today....because we need more cannon fodder.
Noah Carter
Lefty/pol/ literally supports Soros you retarded nigger. How can you be so stupid?
Elijah Cook
Looks like we found the Jew.
Jaxon Cooper
You support a disgraceful Jewish ideology that has Kikes on the top with 99% of the wealth and you on the bottom with 1%, distributed evenly between all non-jews. You support an ideology that has killed more people on the planet than any other in human History. Killed more people than Rome did in its entire thousand+ year reign.
Yawn, tedious pedantic bullshit. You hear this nonsense all the time.
"hur dur I'm not a leftist I'm an anarchist"
It's up there with 'Hitler was a socialist, how could he have been right wing', nonsense. BLM's support base is exclusively and entirely left wing.
Xavier Jones
Looks like drugs are for capitalists kek
Chase Sullivan
it looks like you just took a slightly cuckish thread and painted it as the whole of communism. Not even to mention the fact most communists don't even go to leftypol.
Ian Price
*hits the bong*
Bro, did you ever read Trotsky? He saw how all the workers could come together to fight fascism. It's just the borders keeping us apart man.
Ayden Morgan
Except that they didnt. So back to Communists killing millions...
James Long
Friendly reminder that (((Stalin))) was a zionist
>Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-Zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would speed the decline of British influence in the Middle East.[2] Accordingly, in November 1947, the Soviet Union, together with the other Soviet bloc countries voted in favor of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine,[3] which paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel. On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared its independence, the Soviet Union officially the first country to grant Israel de jure recognition. >Soviet Union supported Israel in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War with weaponry supplied via Czechoslovakia.[26] >North Vietnam’s Politburo chairman, Ho Chi Minh, suggested to David Ben-Gurion in 1946 that he proclaim a Jewish Government in Exile, and establish such a government’s headquarters in North Vietnam, Mr. Ben-Gurion revealed last night. >Communist bloc Israel, In the early Cold War days, Israel appeared to fit in the category of being a “Stalinoid State" >1947-1948 USSR sole military and politcal supporter of Israel >Soviet Union led by Stalin politically and militarily supports creation of Israel, under condition that it remains loyal to USSR-socialism >1947 Soviet Union, together with the other Soviet bloc countries voted in favor of the United Nations Plan for Israel >1948 Arab–Israeli War, Soviet Union supports Israel and weaponry supplied via Czechoslovakia >Yitzhak Rabin, an IDF commander said without the arms from USSR via Czechoslovakia… it is very doubtful whether we would have been able to conduct the war >1948 Soviet Union officially the first country to grant Israel de jure recognition >1948-1951 Israel is a socialist/marxist state with Stalin portraits and Soviet flags everywhere >Ben Gurion leader of Israel through Maipai (Poale Zion
Jose Walker
You, are the Jew here. Communism has never supported the Jews. I just told you I'm not an Anarchist. I'm fucking Naz'Bol. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Liam Robinson
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Matthew Mitchell
I'm not a Stalinist. Fuck off.
Cooper Turner
>Trotsky JEW commie. MURDERED by commies.
It's like pottery.
Jordan Rogers
>communism never supported the jews
Are you completely and utterly retarded? Oh wait yeah you subscribe to some reddit political movement.
'The only difference is that this tyranny will not come from the right, but from the left, and will not be white, but red, in the literal sense of that word, for we shall shed such streams of blood that all the losses of human lives in Capitalist wars will shrink and pale before them. The biggest bankers on the other side of the Atlantic will work in very close collaboration with us. If we win the Revolution, crush Russia, we shall consolidate the power of Zionism on her funereal remains and become such a force that the whole world will go down on its knees before it. We will show what real power is.'
The jew 'Trotsky'.
Chase Peterson
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19 The whole point of the persecution of Jews in WWII was to prevent Germany from becoming communist. Nazism was created for the sole purpose of defeating communism in every way, by acting as its pure opposite. While your people were being staved to death on the communist side, Nazism cause an economic boom, and brought employment up higher than any nation has ever achieved since.
Kayden Hill
What? Soviet union had full employment long before Nazies reached 90%.
Lucas Brown
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Adam Myers
Imagine knowing you've got militant Jews just hovering around the ruins of post war Germany, bracing themselves to rape and slaughter their way to power, seize total control and embark on their usual starvation and mass murder antics. Kinda puts the zeal of national socialism into perspective.
Joseph Foster
>what is critical support
Henry Wood
Soviet union not only didn't have full employment, they didn't have full employment after killing off most of the unemployed.
They made it just about as bad as modern America; sexual deviants, rapid inflation, absolute political corruption. Hopefully, brother, by the time it hits 2038, just as 1938, we can try again.
Benjamin Flores
Why are you guys still here? Why have you not moved to North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela?
Jaxon Martin
In a communist society, economic necessity and relations would cease to determine cultural and social relations. As scarcity is eliminated, alienated labor would cease and people would be free to pursue their individual goals.
Brayden Bell
Why have you guys not moved yet? What is the problem? What is stopping you from leaving?
Dylan Williams
because everybody who was unemployed died
Mason Perez
Unlike the USSR, NK actually made it to final stage of communism.
Jaxson Wright
How many North Korean tourist's have you talked to lately? Why have you not moved to a communist country? What is stopping you?
Christopher Fisher
"individual goals" is commie speak for "finding a way to not starve to death" right?
David Fisher
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Jaxson Foster
Do I have any Posadist Comrades here?
Jace Gutierrez
Exactly, and none of these larping faggots ever answer the question. So commies, what is stopping you from moving? Why are you living in the west? Why not move to Cuba?
Liam Williams
Why have you not joined your glorious comrades in North Korea or Cuba? Why have you not moved?
Brandon Lee
Why are you so fucking autistic? why isn't every capitalist moving to USA or Somalia?
Owen Wood
the government in NK isn't a communist party anymore
William Sanchez
Still waiting on an answer from the commies here...why have you not moved yet? What is stopping you? North Korea is the workers paradise, and your not moving there, why is this?
Brandon Smith
Really enjoyed it when my economics Professor, a man who has been employed by multiple Governors or our state, came out flatly and called 'Labor theory of value' completely impractical and the reason Communism is garbage.
Grayson Green
Not an answer, and yes they are. Why are you not moving to North Korea or Cuba? What is stopping you?
Grayson Gray
Communism in a nutshell: >I worked really hard to make my quota this month. By putting in my equal share, we advance all of mankind! >He worked really hard to meet his quota this month; I really don't think I need to put in the same effort because he's doing the job of two people. >If that guy isn't working I'm not working either... >fuck YT people it's their fault i can't get ahead in this communist utopia >boom >bang >factory and workers are dead >leaders agree that we need to more closely monitor these guys. Let's form a secret police to weed out those who don't produce as much. >Yes! Should we reward those who work a lot? >HAHAHAHA no.
Parker Rivera
mannerheib :-DD D
Henry Cox
Those unwilling to support themselves or their communes should die off.
Logan Bailey
I hope to god you are not over the age of 18 and still think communism is a viable idea. you literally have 0 excuse to be that retarded
Carter Baker
I like where I live, and am happy. Obviously some of you are not, and wish to live under communist rule. Why have you not moved then? What is holding you back from glorious Cuba? Free medical care, free housing, free education. Why have you not moved? Why are you still here?
Jordan Flores
Commie Cunt you are the dumbest Faggot on the planet . You failed math and econ , plus lack any sense . I guess your mother slapped you stupid , posting the same old shit day and night ?
Charles Hernandez
My comrade
Gabriel Ortiz
And your still here? What is holding you back from moving comrade? Why have you not joined the glorious workers in North Korea or Cuba?
Christopher Ward
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Jeremiah Wright
>commies preaching death There is absolutely nothing wrong with executing commies for fatherland
Aaron Cruz
Still waiting on an answer from the commie comrades here...what is stopping you from moving? Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela call to you, but you seem not to want to go...why is this?
Grayson Perry
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Ethan Wilson
There is a thing called nationality, borders and language faggot Why aren't all capitalists in the world moving to USA, again?
Adrian Campbell
Revolutionary movement needs to be international for the sake of maximal effectiveness. Socialism in one country is an dead point.
Besides, neither North Korea or Cuba are socialist, only Peoples Republic of China is the last socialist country on this planet for following the Dengist ideology.
Asher Mitchell
Death for commie traitors
Brody Garcia
What happened to all those good little comrades in this thread? Where have you guys gone? Why have you abandoned this thread? How hard is it to defend real communism?