Hate women? Change them

I really can't understand how white men only whine about how stupid women are and how it's not worth it to have a wife/girlfriend and a family with them...

Real men change their women for the better.
Here's a little story:

I am with my girlfriend now for about 4 years and she wasn't really political for the first 2 years but then she became a feminist, SJW and basically a socialist through university although she didnt knew that.
So what did I do? I talked to her for months, everytime pushing the boundries... Started with "men are obviously different to women, wage gap isn't real, women should have babies and be a waifu." That was the hardest one, I have to admit but if you are consistent, bring arguments and explain to them, that in a lot of cases emotions are worthless and facts are more important, you will break her and she will be better.

Long story short, now she is a right wing woman, looks forward to having a family, is against welfare state, for smaller government, for freedom, against immigration, all the good stuff.
But the most important thing she told me is that she is happy that I opened her eyes.

All genenrations of men did the same thing, don't change this tradition.
Get a woman, doesn't have to be perfect, and shape her!

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Your gf says hi

Let me know when you change all the laws like welfare, no fault divorce, family courts, jailing men for being in debt to women, woman's suffrage etc.

You need a society which allows men to have control over women without throwing the men in prison for being abusers which we do not currently have due to feminism.

If you try asserting your authority over women they can call the cops and have you thrown in prison.

>All genenrations of men did the same thing

Almost correct... All generations of FATHERS did the same thing, right up until about 1950. It's a lot fucking harder to do when you start the process at age 20 instead of age 3, and when the girl has already sat on 5+ dicks by the time she is 15, irreparably damaging her brain chemistry.

This thread will get no (yous) because they like to be bitter virgin manchildren.

Aaccountability isnt their style

Women reflect our desires as men
>HAHA BRO LETS GO OUT AND FUCK SLAGS
woah why can't I find a women who isn't a whore?

maybe it's because that's all dudes desire. I love seeing guys on here bitch about not being able to find a suitable woman and in the very same breath brag about fucking 30 whores.

good argument. some really are too fucked up but some can actually change, we gotta be their daddies.

I suppose you're right, we need to rein in the chads as well. I imagine if a chad rejected a girl and said "No I don't want to date you due to how many men you've slept with" it would probably devastate the girl pretty badly.

She won't think you for all your money, user. Women are good actresses. What used to keep them in line was the stigma of divorce and trying to make a living on their own. Now that that is gone.

Dude, she is my queen while we are married (we still aren't but that's about to change) but if she fucks up and we divorce, I won't pay. If you don't have a good marriage settlement contract, it's your own fault.

I don't even get the chad mindset. Virgin women are the hottest thing ever and should be desired the most, I feel really down when seeing a real slut and have no thoughts of trying to bang her.

>this

Also i love the "youre a dumb worthless whore"
"Show tits to prove youre not a whore"

How do boys raised by crazy bitches learn to be daddies? And why in the hell would we want to be?

just try to get the ones that haven't sucked a cock when coming out of elementary school and try to talk with them about real issues and reason with them. maybe i have high hopes for you guys and girls because i had a traditional, strong family with a great mom and a great dad

>I talked to her for months
Beta move desu. With women you SHOW, don't tell. There is some chance she will turn on you, resent you for how you used logic to get ideas in her head. Now if you teach a women by showing, then she will never forget?

Don't like some left-wing bullshit she is mouthing off with? Dump her on the spot. If she doesn't come crawling back saying she is sorry then literally just move on. A women I quite like tried to put me on the spot with trump and ""Charlottesville"", forcing some ultimatum, saying she wouldn't see me if I STILL supported him after that. I considered trying to explain, trying to say how she was falling for fake news, how if she would just watch the pressers she'd see. But instead I told that should wouldn't be seeing me again. The next week I was fucking some southern chick that hasn't been rude enough to pull that shit on me.

Using this as a filtration method, you will find the women that are either most in agreement with you. therefore, If you want a girl to like trump then be more like trump. The whole insane concept of "mansplining" comes from women (as a group) desire to not have to logic through things, but rather to just have things served up ready for them.

That's a tough one. I've met dudes who just don't care. I've told them you might as well go suck a barrel of dicks to fuck one of these roasties.

>Hate women? Change them.
Shitty ROI, replacing them is a better option.

Yeah, my parents were shit. Couple of losers who hated my successes. They wanted me to be a miserable failure as well. Had to cut them off.

sorry for that but great that you are better than them

>Real men change their women for the better.
Yes, goy, don't you see you are the problem? Don't you see the way to fix the woman problem is by keeping treating them like children and letting them act without consequences? Ignore society, the media, college, the workplace, goy. It's all your fault and women are never responsible for anything.

Not saying that it's (our) fault or that it's not their fault. But the reality is that they are fucked up and the only way to save the west is to change them.

Nigger we don't have time for that, the reproduction rate is at an irreversible decline and we have immigrants pooring in while the males are being feminized because if low T levels, microplastics and fluoride.

The problem is that "roasties" is really a rejection buffer for some guys to explain away that they can't get the women and wont even try.
The issue is that lots of "roasties" are tight as shit, in body and in vagina, which is why they are so irresistible. I've fucked a tight virgin, lose-moderates, tight "roasties", and tight moderates. Literally all over the spectrum, with absolutely no correlation. Some "Roasties" can fuck so good that you wouldn't even care.
HOWEVER: here's the biggest issue. A women should not have disclosed her sexual past to you and you should not inquire or share yours.
IRON RULE NUMBER 2:
>NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.
I see lots of guys asking the women or telling her first. If a woman respects you, she won't bring up her past, if she does it's a warning sign anyway. And asking her is a nervous beta-tell. You'll know if she is a virgin OBVIOUSLY and you should use your brain to deduce anything else. Unless you're the kind of guy that would ask her before you fuck her and then walk out if she said not zero ( I totally respect that by the way).

therationalmale.com/2011/11/22/youve-been-with-how-many-girls/

We need a major revolution in genetic science/ethics and artificial wombs

Real talk, now, if I wanna change a woman, I have to beat her and I'll go to jail.

If someone gives you a knife and it doesn't cut because that edge has been knocked around and is folded over and worn: you can sharpen that knife with a bit of work and have a nice knife.
But if someone gives you a lump of metal that used to be a knife until someone put it in a furnace and melted it into an amorphous blob: you're not going to get a nice knife out of that with your whetstones, cunt's fucked.

Most ruined women are more like the second case than the first. If user came across the first they probably wouldn't even consider that to be a ruined woman: how many people here do you really think expect a perfect woman?

Can we make that a meme?

>artificial wombs
big mistake. to imagine that we would be able to replicate this and do it right is pure arrogance. The same thing happened with breast milk and baby formula in the 60s and it recked a generation. Scientists figured that they had copied ALL the elements of milk and now could just replicate it. Even though they missed one of the most important elements (antibodies) they fucked up in an even more profound way forgetting that there are other physical/emotional developmental things that occur in a baby when you are pressed against a mothers tit. and even most unfortunately they missed that the action of sucking for the child moves muscles in the tongue and face and measurable reduces othodontic-need years down the road. Just trying to emulate fucking MILK lowered IQ, fucked up our teeth more, created emotionally detached children, and also freed women to go work.
I'm sure that these artificial baby pods will just be used by women to justify going to do even more jobs and bring more women into the work force.

This. All we can really hope to do is find a woman with a good dad.

The goal is just to combine your status/wealth, resources, personality, experience to get a women that is low enough below your status to not want to leave but still high status enough due to how high you elevated yourself. As long as she thinks youre the best she can get and you hint at it enough. society has ingrained into our minds that this is "abuse" to a women. But that's a female meme that has spread because it's useful to help women get an even better deal out of life

Much of their behavior can be traced back to Jew influence from Hollywood and women's magazines.

>he can't control someone without abusing them
You're doing it wrong.

I feel like you'd have to be genuinely abusive to get that to work. I think if a girl gets fucked by a drunk 9/10 man once she thinks she is entitled to marry a 9/10.

Whatever, Roastie, you know your shit is gapped out and you carry the DNA of all the cocks that dumped inside you.
You should be sterilized.

A very good idea is to program your girlfriend or wife to act a certain way by criticizing and praise her behavior. Constantly! That goes for guys and gals.

>she does something nice (dress well, cooks something nice, cleans, sex, ...)
>make sure to tell her that you liked it and that it would be great if she could do it again
>she does something bad (doesn't take care of herself, constantly nags, ...)
>tell her that it's annying to deal with her bullshit and ignore her until she stops

I turned a normal women into a almost tradwife that way.

although i know you're joking and also i'm a dude, I do think it's funny when people post that DNA stuff. I do wonder if anyone has read or looked into that random "article" people post on Sup Forums. Spoiler it's not about people and it's not true.

Your normie behaviour is genuinely evil. The more people someone, but especially if the someone is female, fucks - the less able they are to pair bond.
The name of the game is getting white people to make as many babies as they can.
If they are all broken and emulating homosexual relationships - far fewer children are born and later which makes them less healthy.

If a bitter virgin sits at home making posts only a few other bitter virgins see - this is practically a moral act. If that guy had instead learned to bed women and fucked many he would actually be making sure less white children are born into the world.

women know this instinctively and use to to their advantage. men have forgotten this art. Better yet, if a women fucks with you then go out and forget about her and make her hate herself for making you upset because you're still doing just fine.

women often decide what the facts are and never change their minds no matter how truthful you are

there's nothing you can do to change it, because there are too many beta orbiters and flat out liars who will just lie to get into a woman's pants at your cost of taking a stand

only way to treat women is to keep them at arm's length unless you know they're in love with you

Yes, I take this info for granted already. I've been doing this for quite some time now and I am surprised, no, shocked at how often she cooks for me without even complaining or wanting something in return.

>me sitting at home the whole day on saturday, doing some work, chilling a lot
>decide to go to the gym at 7pm
>tell gf I'll be back at around 9pm
>she is like, thats okay I will wait, what do you want to eat when you come back?

today thats standart for me

Yep, pretty much this OP. When I met my girlfriend about a year ago she used to be on the same liberal band wagon as all of her cunt friends, and she's white which pissed me off even more as she was beginning to lean towards the white guilt side of shit. Sooner rather than later I started whipping her ass into shape, challenging everything she once believed and making her open her eyes to all the lies and bullshit she had been fed for the past couple of years. Now, literally like your gf, extremely right wing, indulges in using the words nigger, gook, spic, etc etc when we are fucking around with each other, wants to raise a good old fashioned American family and agrees with me on basically all the points you mentioned in your post as well (welfare state, immigration laws, etc). Feels good man. She even browses Sup Forums now as well.

If you read this I love you, A, you little nigger.

- F

To be quite honest with you. I'm quite happy that my wife is using this art. It makes me a better man & father.

But she gets a rush of endorphins as return. You underestimate hoch much some people do for them. Some donate millions of dollar, some do volunteer work and some cook for their partner.

That's an interesting perspective, I agree about white children being the goal. however
>The more people someone, but especially if the someone is female, fucks - the less able they are to pair bond.
I've seen that data on that, but it could be argued that women with issues tend to fuck more men. That's a revered arrow of causality.

at 25 My goal is to remain sane as I ascend to my personal peak. Since I chose a long route (doctor, specialist) it will take a while to rise out of pure loneliness and poverty, but then pay off very quickly. I just couldn't go 10 years (from college through residency) without interacting with females. What I am to them is honest about not getting locked down. There's a lot of fucked up stuff in play here: everyone being super poor now, school costing so much, families not handing down inheritances at age to their kids (grandma still holding on to that shit at 90).
Most normal guys, that spend a small amount of time talking to women will end up in situations where they can fuck them or be offered a relationship as well. I've tried to be as restrained as possible to "leave a few for others" as you seem to think.

In reality there are unlimited options. The woman I am going to settle down with is not old enough yet but most guys just don't look hard enough.

cringe desu

true, i am really thankful and respect her, treat her really well in return.

Not really. If you are working out, fuck her well and spend time with her, just talking, she will eventually adopt your ideology. I redpilled my girlfriend like that. When we are both home, I simply sit down with her, chat about our day and then I slowly redpill her. I have saved a lot of stuff and when I want to prove a point, I bring out statistics.
For example, about niggers, she was calling me racist. So I said look, I know you are saying it because of the good examples you see on TV, but what about these crime statistics? Maybe you don't see it because the place we live in is peaceful, but it exists. It's just burried under the rug. And I live it at that, we talk about something else.
Later on, I redpill her on the Jews in he media and I make the connection on who hides it under the rug.
Slowly but surely, she became a Sup Forumsack super conservative wifu and we are talking about getting married and having kids.

A good Idea could be to watch the news together and control her information intake. Once she stops reading (or starts doubting) the guardian it'll become progressively easier to get her to adopt your (on truth based) belief. Also make sure to comment fakeish news with a relatively moderate racism.

Yeah and when you're just starting out, don't forget the "of course not all (insert subhuman group)"... it is annoying at first and you will be able to reduce that but it will help long term

>Your gf says hi
>Your gf
>gf
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True, and if she is disagreeable after this stuff then it's time to move on. Agreeableness is really the most important trait for a women.

>Women reflect our desires as men
it goes both ways, men adjust themselves to impress women too. in any case, one can observe normies interact to see this dynamic.

>With women you SHOW, don't tell.
The advice it too general. If one ends up with someone that must be shown and cannot be reasoned with, then it's probably best to move on anyway, unless that's the type of relationship that is desired. e.g. I have heard some user here once explain that they don't want a woman who they can talk with about deep topics, they'd rather have friends for that and only use their woman to raise a family.

>HOWEVER: here's the biggest issue. A women should not have disclosed her sexual past to you and you should not inquire or share yours.

It can say a lot about a person. If it's important to someone, then they should ask/share. Otherwise they won't really know who they are getting involved with. For some the truth can hurt and they'd rather avoid it. Fair enough, let them choose that path, but they should never complain later on if they find things out the hard way.

>templar flag
>fornicating before wedlock
Disgusting

>but they should never complain later on if they find things out the hard way.
it's a tool to use to control a woman and you need those tools. She should be curious about you until the day you die. There are levels mystery that you lose as you continue into relationships, so you might as well keep one forever. For the man asking the woman: as I said, if you want to bring it up ASAP then fine, but it ought to be to see if she is a virgin and dump her (if that's your thing). Nothing is more cucked than asking her, getting an answer like 20, feeling like shit, and then continuing on with vague resentment that you never confront her with until she eventually dumps you (and I see that a lot). If you really want to ask her, your own number better be high and you still should withhold your own number. Odds are it won't be a number she likes (too few, too much) and it will make her resent you rather than respect you in any case.

I don't think I've ever felt like telling a woman something personal was ever rewarded with greater trust and intimacy or just personal relief for being honest/getting something off of my chest.
They get bored with you.

I like women.

"You cannot base your policy on a Einzelfall" is my favorite sentence. It always works with normies. Another good way to get people to see the light is to talk about incentives and how appeasement is a waste of time (make sure to mention Hitler) that incentivises bad behavior.

agreed
when a woman likes you she makes fantasies in her head and she likes to keep them fantasies.

:'^(

>She should be curious about you until the day you die.
The cards you wish to keep don't necessarily have to be about how many people you banged. If a person is really interesting, there will be plenty of subject matter. Really depends on the person.

>Nothing is more cucked than asking her, getting an answer like 20, feeling like shit, and then continuing on with vague resentment that you never confront her with until she eventually dumps you

Indeed. It would be better to move on in that case. Knowing the deal breakers up front can save everyone time and money.

>Women have equal rights
>Change them
Choose one.

Well I go to a school with almost no white women so what do?

u sound like gigantic faggot meme flaggers,you probably made it all up for some (((u's))),kys already .
Also
>waifu
>right wing women
>gf
sage this fucking garbage

>he can't control a woman because muh gov.
Okay, next poster.

No one wants to sign a prenuptial though. The argument being "if you love me then we don't need a legal escape".