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Catalonia BTFO Spain, will hold a referendum on independence!

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the Spanish government said, at every step, that we wouldn't be able to, that they would stop us. We keep proving them wrong.

You have done nothing yet

You know nothing, dong low.

Charge your phone

but you guys said we wouldn't even be able to do what we just did

source?

The whole thing is unviable. Catalonia has 7.5 (approx.) persons living in it. If you get your independence, which the central government will block at every step, you'll have to take with you a corresponding percentage of the national debt. This, combined with the fact you won't be in the EU (and Spain will make sure you never are) and one of your biggest neighbours is hostile to you, you'll have an economical collapse a few years into you commie republic.

And that's if Madrid doesn't decide to roll out the tanks.

A chance to deploy the EU army

7.5 million

i lik spen
why spen fite
no break apart :'(
jus lik mama an papa

First Calalonia
Then Commiefornia

>you'll have to take with you a corresponding percentage of the national debt.

They said they won't recognize the debt. It sounds like a joke, I know

Castilian here. I hope Catalonia secedes and then there is a civil war inside Catalonia between arabs (about 40% population and Catalans). Hope CIA gives weapons to Arabs.

What EU army?

>his, combined with the fact you won't be in the EU (and Spain will make sure you never are)

So you think its your call? Let me tell you this, its not.

I find it funny that anyone expects Spain to do anything about it, what are we supposed to do? Attack the parliament so move attention and drama is created and people side with the independent?


Whether Catalans like it or not, it is against the constitution to separate, so they can do all the voting they want, at the end of the day we'll never give them independence, and if they try to do a coup d'etat, them we are justified to send the army and take control with the whole world on our side.
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You were conquered, and you should be thankful we allowed you (and constitutionally recognized) your language and culture.

Except that new admissions must be approved by all current member states?

what are the chances that kiketalonia actually becomes independent?

its a fucking joke

its all just a cheap way to give the masses an ilusion of unity

if they really cares about their own land, they wouldnt allow mass chinese/pakistan/north african immigration buying every single buinsess, restaurant and bar, even prostitution clubs are moslty chinese now.
you all get fooled and you suck that lie with pride, its pathetic.

every single flag hanging out their windows is just a sign of "hey look at me im a useful retard"

>and when they finally show it off denialfags will be saying they knew beforehand all along

As a Galician, just know that if Catalonia leaves(they won't) then we're next to go faggots.

If scotland leaves the UK they will be automatically in the EU i hope you know that? Same will happen for cata...

Scotland will not be in the EU if they join. It has been stated several times they'd have to apply for membership like any other country.

So unless you have a source...

Zero, the most extreme outcome they could pull off is to attempt a coup d'etat, which simply cannot be successful since Catalonia has no army, on a police officers who don't even have money to buy bulletproof vests and have come out to the public to state they will never break the constitution to follow the orders of the Catalonian, independentist leaders.

If they leave the UK

Hmm your right. I read a news article a while ago which said it would be the case as i said. Now i found one who backs your position.... theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/independent-scotland-would-have-to-apply-for-eu-membership) So im not sure.

Scotland cannot be compared to Catalonia, because the British and the Spanish constitution are different. The Spanish one does not allow for a democratic voting decision by any of it's regions to decide whether they'll like to become separate from Spain.


It's literally unconstitutional.

And what happens if they do and try to enforce it without physical force? Will you invade or sth? I dont think so.

No one expects the Spanish InKEKsition.

They simply won't be independent. They'll say they are, but there'll come a time when they have to fulfil some of their duties towards the state, like yearly reports, taxes, etc, and they will. They'll call themselves independent, but they won't be.

And in case they don't fulfil those obligations, then we have complete rights to go there, and put the President of the Generalitat out of his position for failing to do his job.

How are they going to enforce anything with physical force without an army, and a police force that doesn't even have the budget for bulletproof vests, and has already come to to state they will not betray Spain?
Obviously, any attempt at coup d'etat will be met and dealt with as any attack against the Spanish nation. Aka, military action. We are in our complete right, Catalonia is not property of Catalans, it's ours.

So ill watch tv soon and see a civil war in spain/cata..
will you need some german airplanes drop some troops again to solve it?

the spaincuck media meltdown has been absolutely hilarious. even the liberal journos can't hold back their
>MUH ETERNAL UNITY OF SPAIN REEEEE

>M-MUH CUNTSTITUTION

Don't expect much action, this will not be like Turkey with Apaches and F16's shooting civilians. Catalans are like Californians, they are scared of weapons and violence.
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The military is likely to be there just to show force, and then the police will arrest the independentist leaders and replace the government, if they really end up trying a coup d'etat. Despite the memes, Spain is pretty civil and chill.

Damn sad. I hoped for some action... But gl with ur stuff and dont take niggers in.

Catalonia does not belong to Catalans only, it belongs to every Spaniard. You're not about to steal Spanish property and get away with it. It doesn't work that way.

kek, the fact that Spaniards think this is what will happen gives me a lot of confidence

>The military is likely to be there just to show force, and then the police will arrest the independentist leaders and replace the government
>so far the only strategy from the government has been to do nothing at all
>government is clearly scared and Mariano the dumb bureaucrat is obviously in way over his head and can't deal with the situation except through DUDE NOT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL LMAO
>implying it's the catalans who are scared
spaincucks are clearly the ones shitting their pants, because all you can do is cry over MUH CONSTITUTION.
A dog that barks doesn't bite.

>Catalonia does not belong to Catalans only, it belongs to every Spaniard. You're not about to steal Spanish property and get away with it. It doesn't work that way.

Sweet, can't wait to kill commies and arabs in the name of the King.

>Spanish Civil War 2.0

fucking when lads

Get rid of all the yougoslavs and I'll gladly remember the names of 7 new European nations.

Go on, explain to me how Catalonia will become independent.

The catalonians have no substantial amount of military equipment or personnel, they have no backing or allies willing to support them, they are not on equal military grounds with the rest of Spain, and they're not even fully united in their endeavour to chase independence dreams.

If it comes down to military force, it'll be quick.

no, the sad part is that most Spaniards think that way. That is why we need to leave

>implying spaniards have the balls for that
just a reminder that the only reason why there was a civil war 1.0 was because of Hitler helping out Franco.

>eu propaganda
Is this what they tell you in Germany?

it won't come down to military force

awww man why you have to let me down

now I am sad

So then they won't be independent.

Why do you want to leave? Do you think you'll be better off outside Spain?

Kosovo was allowed to split from Serbia.
Why Catalonia be restricted from doing the same with democratic vote.

Kosovo breakaway from Serbia was legal, world court rules.
theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/22/kosovo-breakaway-serbia-legal-world-court

Kosovo's split from Serbia was legal: UN court.
thespec.com/news-story/2162227-kosovo-s-split-from-serbia-was-legal-un-court/

see ->

>they have no backing or allies willing to support them
I'm willing to bet that Putin is dying to support a civil war in Spain. Right up the Duginist alley.

I don't really care about them, but i am just interested- What will happen to Barcelona FC?
Will it sink in new Catalon League?

Spain would be better off without the Catalonian commiehole

sorry m8. Also the EU will be fine with Catalonia becoming independent, they just have to maintain appearances for now, you know this diplomatic principle of not getting involved in other country's internal affairs. But everyone knows most of the EU think the spanish government is retarded because trying to hold back separatism by boycotting Catalonia has only made it much more powerful, and it's also known that most of the EU thinks that if Catalonia does become independent it's too valuable to leave them out of the union. The Spanish government will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE like never before but in the end they'll bend the knee like the asssucking little merkelcucks that they are

Yes, because Rusky support worked out great the last time, didn't it.

Because the Spanish constitution clearly states that Spain reserves the power to veto any decision made by any Spanish region that could go against Spanish interests. Democracy of any Spanish regions is not recognized, because they are Spanish property.


This would be akin to buying a car, letting your friends drive it, and then they decide to make a vote to decide whether they should expropriate your car or not.

Spain is on full suicide watch over this shit because they know Catalonia is their cash cow. If Andalusia were trying to become independent they'd gladly let them.

I'm willing to bet that Trump is dying to support a civil war in Spain. Right up to the Duginist alley.

Spainbros, what is the difference between Catalonia and Aragon? Is Catalan the same as what used to be Aragonese or is it different?

Hasn't there been like 8 of these??

fucking leave or don't quit being a goddamn tease

Human rights declaration says all people have the right to self-determination. Spanish constitution says Human rights declaration is to be respected.

Checkmate, KEK.

This will make a fine addition to my collection

Very well said.

>Human rights declaration says all people have the right to self-determination.
false

>disgusting commie talking about muh human right
And thats the people of spain you cuck. By your logic i can make a nazi state inside France legally.

>respected.
it doesn't say they will obey everything in it then?/ just respect ? :D

>mfw Catalonia get independence after Scotland failed

This is the scenario I dream of. Scotland forever cucked by England.

Kingdom of Bavaria next.

>they just have to maintain appearances for now, you know this diplomatic principle of not getting involved in other country's internal affairs.
Yeah, germany is totally ok with Babiera wanting to secede hahahaa
Jordi, you are completelly delusional, even if you achieve the independence, i want to see what happens next between your arabs and you. Who will win the race wars? hahaha you are going to be a refugee fleeing to spain and Catalonia is going to be kosovo 2.0.

Funny innit?

*bavaria

Catalonians are Spaniards under the constitution. What you are saying is that Spain is going to become separate from Spain, which is obviously not going to happen.


Catalans cannot decide by themselves, because Catalonia belongs to every Spaniard in Spain, each and every region would have to support the independence movement for to to succeed under the constitution, and that's not going to happen, considering only about 38% of Catalonians want to be independent.

That is a 10 year old interpretation of the UN declaration of cars. Surely if rural town #15468 of Castilla wanted to become independent and their populace "voted" so, it would not be allowed? Where do you draw the line?

The Catalonians are retarded. They are not oppressed or mistreated by the current government, they have been granted rights very few regions of Spain enjoy, and have close historical ties to the Spanish State.

>be in catalonia
>chaotic neutral
>realize both parties are corrupt an full of shit
>realize both parties are LARPing as hard as they can
>realize both parties are using this as a smoke screen
>as both parties bend the knee and spread the buttcheeks for the central bank kike

NATIONALISM, YES!

ps. I seriously hope they both kill eachother, starting by their leaders, meanwhile I'll move to france or portugal

what if your country became part of another country, and in a few generations, everything that makes you who you are (your language, your culture, your identity) disappeared? I don't give a fuck if we are better or worse off if we leave, leaving is the only option

this too

and you think the Serbian constitution allowed Kosovo to secede?

It will still be in the EU.

Your country never existed and your region is just full of degenerated marxists sucking the muslim dicks. This is the current state of your "culture".
REFUGEE WELCOME

I am indifferent to it

Why would you even want to be independent? Catalunya is a fucking joke. The latest terror attacks proved that the Mossos are completely incompetent Keystone Kops.

Not a happening. You'll see it.

These catacucks wanting independence are like the same left wing, liberal faggots we got in commifornia. Besides, it's not even constitution to seperate, so let them have their fun.

The right of people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter’s norms.[1][2] It states that a people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.[3]

more like they are laughing at you and your delusions of grandeur

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Again? Spain is just going to ignore it.

yes, manolo, babiera, yes of course
keep it up, you are doing great

>tfw we will be the first nation to get independence in western Europe in the last 100 years
Scotland, we will be first. Sorry, m8. Don't be so cuck next time.

btw, does slovaquia count?

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ok pierre, I think you should go watch mammadou fuck your mom now

>implying MUH CONSTITUTION is an argument

>Catalonians
>Conquerors

the same way you will be indifferent when we become independent

dividing spain? shame on these traitors. do it for her.

keep dreaming gerard

>we wuz Kingdom of Aragon and sheeit