Why do libertarians hate america?

Seriously they hate white people more than liberals do it seems.

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The libertarians have been cucked every since (((Murray rothbard))) tried to form an partnership with the left in the 70's. I don't trust mainstream libertarians, they have this nihilism to them that is disgusting.

Libertarians see people as utility, a cog in the machine of the market. Society moulds around the will of the market. Its not a nationalistic or racist ideology.
All immigration is a net gain to the economy if you don't believe in a welfare state. Plus you don't get scum because all come to work.

ideology. The open boarders part of Libertarianism is the dumbest part that makes no sense. It only makes sense in a theoretical world wide utopia where no boarders exist so people can just go anywhere to get any job, which is how they image it. But in reality, you are just opening up the country to being flooded with third worlders for gibsmedats (which libertarians are against to be fair) and also ruining the job market. The ONLY ones who benefit from this are huge corporations, who get an endless supply of employees, whos wages and benefits they can undercut. Dont like it? tough shit, there a million other people who are willing to work your job for less money.

I say this as a libertarian

it seems like they don't believe in the idea of a nation state.

Libertarians are mega retards like those who claim to be sovereign citizens.

Because they are basically nothing more than low tax liberals.
Their neurotype basically doesn't seem to go along with group/tribal identity and is pretty autistic so it would make sense.

Ask them why open borders is a good Idea for socialist countries and socilaist people to invade

Founding father tier libertarian-ism is pretty ight though

Founding farther tier... What the open borders kind?

Many dont

Many considet the nation state just some abstract system based on geographic location and open to anyone and everyone.

At this point those still in libertarian circles are leftist libertarians who want open boarders and pride parades everywhere.

I used to be into it but couldnt get passed open boarders. Now I want a new hitler

Open borders in a socialist country is different to open borders in a libertarian/ capitalist society

Who the fuck loves America? Cancer shithole that should be exterminated

Libertarianism to fascism in one leap. You sound like a retarded reactionary.

Open borders for Germanics and WASPs doesn't sound really scary, right?

The founding fathers weren't open borders.

This dumb cunt deserves to be shot!

>The founding fathers weren't open borders.
The founders were federalist not libertarians.

They were all immigrants, they also owned black people. What kind of argument is the founding fathers said so? You don't take medical advice from 300 year old doctors do you?

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(((Reason)))

This is irrelevant but that ID looks really nice with your flag.

Plus you are the Raj? Your ID says so.

>Who the fuck loves America? Cancer shithole that should be exterminated
Fuck off cunt!

>(((American citizens))) benefit when people, any color but white, come here work here and live here.

Idiots like this are why I gave up on libertarianism. The only solution is the far right and the construction of an ethnostate. You can not separate culture and biology and if we want western culture we need white people.

So in other words, you're admitting that they weren't for open borders?

>(((Reason)))
libertarians are just humanist shits

Limited government doesn't mean decentralised or weak government?

No? Just mentioning that It doesn't really matter if they weren't.

Libertarianism is a evil ideology that takes people's humanity, culture, and all meaningful bonds that they share and subjugates them to economic concerns. People are not viewed as humans but as economic cogs, so anything beyond their economic value is considered irrelevant.

>He thinks all libertarians support open borders.

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>Limited government doesn't mean decentralized or weak government?
Federalism is decentralized government. The entire purpose of the federal government under Jeffersonian principles is to prevent bullshit open boarders and foreign entanglements. Read some more!

You can't separate culture and biology? Well this is scientifically unfounded nonsense.

Federalism is not decentralised government. It's the exact opposite.

>writes some shitty articles for a newspaper I never heard of
>speaking for all Libertarians

>Federalism is not decentralised government. It's the exact opposite.
You are an idiot! READ MORE!

No its not. All it takes is for a libertarian to understand that the marxists will run their small government just like it is now.
They allready controll the movement and would sweep in to take the reigns if it got traction again.

It really isn't our culture is an emergent property that comes from our biology. You can import a bunch of niggers but they will never be compatible with white western civilization. You only have to go to any city in America to see the breakdown of white western culture when you import a bunch of non whites. The same can be said for whites in any other culture. I can no more be an Indian or Japanese. I could try to fit in but it would always be a larp.

In Europe it means decentralised. In USA it means centralised. Read more.

Rothbard was a paleoconservative ya dummy.
The Cato Institute, Koch Bros, and the LP are behind the cucking
Based Murray left the Cato Institute in protest and opposed the creation of the Libertarian Party
THIS is Rothbard's agenda. Tell me it's in line with the left.
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>libertarian
>mongrel
Pick two
Literally finances every pro-diversity anti-racist shit in Europe. EVERY SINGLE NATION, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Without the welfare state you'd see almost zero immigration. Taxation is theft, but also shameful is the fact that illegals in my country (USA) have access to ANY fruits of the tax system at all. Illegals should have zero access to our schools and hospital.

Additionally, those advocating open borders are shills. Anybody who has read essays and books from Von Mises Institute people and not meme articles and blogposts online know that the majority are in favor of closed borders

>Muh economy

These people only ever look at the economy, they never explain how low skilled immigration will increase the standard of living for American citizens (it doesn't).

Doesnt have to be in line with the left. All that needs to be done is change the direction and/or stop the movement.
> hense present day

This is a silly argument. Blacks are still suffering from the shit that went down in living memory. It takes much longer than a generation for social mobility to occur.

Also why would you not want Asians? Do they lower the crime rate too much? Or do you not like that they earn more?

>Why do libertarians hate america?
Omnipresent Marxist indoctrination, just like leftists.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
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Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
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Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
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Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
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Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
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The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
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Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
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The facts about slavery in North America:
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Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
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The Jewish role in the porn industry:
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Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
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The Holocaust:
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You know what else is scientifically unfounded nonsense? Human rights. Didn't stop me from beating nonwhites with my mates last weekend and torturing racemixed couple
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Job creation? Job competition? Lower prices? Lower taxes?

Reason is THE libertarian newspaper you pleb

Shitpost like this should be a bannable offense

Stop larping on the Internet you fucking faggot

Because Sup Forums doesn't know anything about libertarianism other than strawmans and low hanging fruit like Aleppo.

Here is the actual libertarian position on immigration that is consistent with the ideology. Open borders are forced integration by the state.

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>Blacks are still suffering from the shit that went down in living memory. It takes much longer than a generation for social mobility to occur.

All the affirmative action in the world is not going to bring blacks to parity with whites. We are different creatures and should be left to our own devices. That is the same reason that while I respect Japs, and every other race, I don't want them in my countries. Whites won America by the divine right on conquest and to give that territory up because of Marxist propaganda is foolish.

Ah I spilled my coffee...

"well the frankfurt school"

>this thread

>In Europe it means decentralised. In USA it means centralised. Read more.
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No one is larping, slow shitskin. People in the "Eastern" Europe dedicate a lot of time to make the inferior infiltrators suffer.


Wooooooah......it's almost like if you kill subhumans just for not being White, they don't come

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>be non-white subhuman (((from Canada)))
>go to Poland
>die

nonwhite tries to talk to you in your native land? spit in his face and break his teeth

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>Literally finances every pro-diversity anti-racist shit in Europe. EVERY SINGLE NATION, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Oh, ok fag... LIke your shit hole doesn't promote Islam and savages... Fuck off dumb cunt!

That's a (((libertarian))). They used to occupy the edgy right and triggered shit libs. Now they just pander to them and are a strictly Jewish ideology. The movements dead because white men realized they need the power of the state to over come their enemies

That's the fact. America must be wiped out. Holocaust of Americans is loyalty to Europe

>purple hair
>defends open borders

>Job creation?
Any job created by a low skilled immigrant will be outweighed (by far) by the jobs taken by low skilled immigrants. You will have a net loss of available jobs.
>Job competition?
This lowers wages for Americans.
>Lower prices?
Negligible given the relative downwards pressure on wages.
>Lower taxes?
As infrastructure falls under pressure I can't see taxes lowering much and it's not going to help those who no longer have a job or those who now earn less.

I doubt you even know what Marxism is? You blast it off like a buzzword as does everyone on pol. Whites won America by devine right? By that logic could we not say Muslims are moving in to take it by their devine right? When did I ask you to give up your territory? You moved most of the fucking blacks there yourselves? I didn't mention affirmative action. I'm just providing you with a more reasonable reason for social development disparity than "muh bell curve". It must be sad to be such a worthless human that your only sense of achievement comes from the achievements of others the same colour as you.

Did you read that? It's not agreeing with you? Just fucking wiki federalism? There's a fucking section dedicated to the difference between us and euro

I was going to try to have a civil discussion with you but if you are going to pretend you don't understand how Marxist ideology has been poisoning the mind of White Europeans to make them feel guilty about who and what they are then their is no point. You are either a shill or hopelessly brainwashed.

On the off chance you are white, and English, you should give Jonathan Bowden a listen. He passed in 2012 but provided a clear voice on how the UK should move forward by moving to the right and reclaiming their white identity and patriotism. If you are a shitskin, don't bother, go back to your own country where you belong.

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>it is not morally better for a job to be here instead of china
>we produce exceptional people who won't work for such a low wage
This is amazing

Shouldn't the US citizens have out grown jobs at McDonald's? Why would schooled US citizens be doing low skilled jobs?

>why do liberarians hate America?

Because America has roads, Africa does not.

this was one of the dumbest people i've ever seen on a cable news show. i'm not even kidding

I'm white as fuck. I'm not ashamed of it. I find it uninteresting. I'm not working towards creating more racial tribalism. It's tedious.

>arguing solely from the economical standpoint
How fucked is this country? What do these "people" even think the government exists for?

>It's the "everyone is just like me" world view

You're as delusional as a liberal, there are PLENTY OF DUMB AMERICANS (niggers for one). There are plenty of Americans who are incapable of working anything other than low skilled jobs - think about those people before you import millions of low skilled workers.

>his is a silly argument. Blacks are still suffering from the shit that went down in living memory. It takes much longer than a generation for social mobility to occur.
>Also why would you not want Asians? Do they lower the crime rate too much? Or do you not like that they earn more?
Awe.... you fuckin pathetic excuse making fuck!

This is the opposite of right. Rothbard, Paul, Rockwell, and the rest of the old libertarian guard left the Libertarian Party in the Late 80s after the social liberals took over. Rothabard despised leftism.

IIRC Katherine "Mangu-Ward" was one of the toxic libertarians who denounced Ron Paul when he was running.

What a fucking cunt.

the public face of libertarianism is entirely controlled opposition. Ron Paul is probably the only exception.

Bnp tv. Wow the laughing stock of Britain. The left wing racists who say they are on the right? Even thought their policies are on the economic left?

what's the point of a country if you don't believe in race?

Sorry, forgot to air-quote "libertarian"

these people are always such mutated genetic-garbage.

>I doubt you even know what Marxism is? You blast it off like a buzzword as does everyone on pol. Whites won America by devine right? By that logic could we not say Muslims are moving in to take it by their devine right? When did I ask you to give up your territory? You moved most of the fucking blacks there yourselves? I didn't mention affirmative action. I'm just providing you with a more reasonable reason for social development disparity than "muh bell curve". It must be sad to be such a worthless human that your only sense of achievement comes from the achievements of others the same colour as you.
Do you know what Marxism is?

Immigration rates go down when there is no welfare state? America was prosperous before with open boarders?

>I'm not working towards creating more racial tribalism. It's tedious.

Humanity will never escape what you so disparagingly call racial tribalism. The different groups of men can trade and live in peace as long as they remain separate. There are no examples of multi-cultural civilizations because it can't be done, we can not escape these biological differences. If you throw different people together you don't get cohesion you get violence and strife.

Keep selling out your fellow white man. The new majority in your country will gladly take power and expel you and murder your children because they are not a weak puppet like yourself.

I thought libertarians loved America.

Immigration is bad for the economy

Reason magazine, the LPN, and others on the beltway are definely controlled by the Kochtapus. Look off the beltway for the Old School libertarians who are hypertrationalist. Alot of the good ones are are at the Mises Institute. It was founded by Rothbard's protegees after all.

When did I make an excuse? Did I say it's okay? Did I say high level of black crime are okay? No. They should be arrested same as any other criminal.

What I am saying is there are a multitude of factors contributing to why the crime rate is high? If I was making excuses I would try to excuse their crime? Arresting them is not excusing their crime is it?

>Did you read that? It's not agreeing with you? Just fucking wiki federalism? There's a fucking section dedicated to the difference between us and euro
Federalism is an American invention, ass! It was a result of a a debate between Jefferson and Hamilton. Federalism means that the Federal government handles external factors and enforces interstate contracts. The main governing body is the states. You are an idiot!

Shared values. A regulated economy? Rule of law? Should I go on? You don't describe a country or state you describe a tribe of whites?

how is it air quoting if you're actually quoting it...

You have no clue who Bowden is do you? Give his lecture on Evola a listen. The man was a genius and died far to young. That being said he accurately foresaw what is occurring now. The left is in decay and the right now controls the counter culture. The next 50 years will be the rise of the right and return to tradition values or it will be the death of every white person on the planet. I don't think the white man is ready to die, despite the jewish propaganda telling him otherwise.

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Before you were arguing for the benefits of low skilled immigration, now you seem to be arguing:
>but there wont be too much immigration
>and it didn't cause much of a problem in the past

Stop shifting the goalpost and admit you lost the argument, go away and rethink your worldview.

so should we just merge with any country that "shares our values"? the people within it are just interchangeable valuebots afterall...

>When did I make an excuse? Did I say it's okay? Did I say high level of black crime are okay? No. They should be arrested same as any other criminal.
>What I am saying is there are a multitude of factors contributing to why the crime rate is high? If I was making excuses I would try to excuse their crime? Arresting them is not excusing their crime is it?
You responded to the wrong person fag, but since I am commenting, you contradict yourself. You say you did not make an excuse, but then make an excuse! It is free to not commit crimes! Fuck off! Do the crime, get the hammer!

You want me to go into the Super structures? Or what? You want the dictionary definition? Or are you talking about the computing forever "CULTURAL MARXISM"

>You want me to go into the Super structures? Or what? You want the dictionary definition? Or are you talking about the computing forever "CULTURAL MARXISM"
Fuck off drunk, you keep responding to the wrong people!

Where is the excuse. I provide a explanation. An excuse would excuse them of punishment.

Women can't be libertarian.

(((left libertarians))) are not libertarians. They are socialists that don't like policing. This is evidenced by this """"""""libertarian"""""""" supporting a socialist program that gives some people free schooling and welfare just because their parents dropped them off here illegally.

pretty much yea. Women don't really have any business having political views.