How do we fix modern universities?

Just started Uni a few weeks ago and all the Sup Forums memes turned out to be true.

>fat purple haired feminist dykes EVERYWHERE
>openly Marxist professors
>non-whites more prevalent than whites
>most white males are scrawny betas

One of these self identified Marxists is from an American Studies course which is essentially We wuz and White Guilt 101.

>inb4 hurrr learn a trade instead

I'm majoring in a STEM field but these courses are required as a 'diversity' credit.

Let's discuss the absolute cesspit than is liberal academia.

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If you're required to pass to continue your education or using overt wrongthink could harm your other courses then you go full disruptive in the opposite direction:

Hold them to the standards they profess to worship. Find 'problematic' aspects to everything they say or do. For example, at my university just after the Brexit vote there were a lot of bitter antidemocratic types who were bemoaning the result. One stopped me and ranted some crap about how the elderly should be denied a vote. I 'helped' her refine this concept to a voting age based upon expected lifespan (under the guise of not discriminating against women, who live longer) before flipping it around because Africans, Asians, homosexuals and a few other 'oppressed' groups have even shorter lifespans on average. I then made her intolerance known to her comrades and slinked off while the mob boiled over.

Jesus Christ, thankfully I live in a sane country!

Also the average girl sleeps with 50 guys before graduation

Yeah, it is required for my degree. Generally I just keep my mouth shut to avoid being ostracized, but sometimes its fun to use their own logic against them or double down to see how absurdly far I can take it.

>How do we fix modern universities?
1) Preheat oven to 1400F
2) Take jews from universities
3) Gently place jews into oven for 5 to 8 hours
4) Periodically check, to make sure cooking in even
5) Profit

Forgot to mention that 90 percent of the girls here dress like immodest sluts

I'm curious about what world will come out of this anti-white academia.

They obviously advantaged them before they could react and by now dominate in every field.

Even the universities in the most conservative and white parts of the United States are like this

I hate this fact. Back in highschool when I was a dyel faggot that was too insecure to talk to people, I thought that those cute girls I used to stare at from across the room were pure and different than their friends they hang out with. Come uni and sick gains and my bubble burst.

In that case, take it the absolute furthest you can. What's the racial makeup of the class? If it's mostly white then there's a literal goldmine for you to exploit. They hold a bake sale? Those tasty treats best have been baked by a PoC because chocolate and sugar cane were appropriated from South America and Southeast Asia respectively and the latter is especially problematic because it is a poignant reminder of all the slaves captured to work on sugar cane plantations.

Your homework is marked for grammar and spelling? That's clear white colonialism of language by opressive professors.

A map appears in some handout or presentation? That best not be a Mercator projection, not only does it under-represent the land mass of Africa while enhancing the scale of Europe and North America, it was originally devised to help slave ships navigate more effectively across the Atlantic.

Have them so busy looking over their shoulders for imagined microagressions that they never have time to do anything with an impact on the rest of the world.

I feel bad for you people. I can only say that Italy managed to avoid this shit because we are still a 93/94% native country, and people either assimilate into the culture or leave.
Petty racism is what saved the country in these times, I'm so glad that the common folk is moderately racist.

Lol

kek

Why don't you just drop out?

It's not like a ballless cuck like you could or would do anything about it.

Im in a sociology class right now, its literally a tumblr post.

>Gender is on a spectrun
>Race is not biological.

Half these people cant finush a conjunction or say a sentice without "like" in it. Its driving me insane.

Sociology lives in a constant battle with the other sciences because no sociology model in the XXth century it's even close to something like game theory.

Even group theory it's just a basic aproximation.

a large portion of sociology doesn't even believe in objective science, because they think that science is inherently biased towards white men. The whole field needs to be gassed and start over

I agree it's insane but it was the driven force of non white academy all this years, now that they achieved their goal, I'm honestly curious about how they will deal with the backlash.

Yeah well its lawrence fucking kansas what did you expect. Beautiful campus tho

They are just channels for liberal brainwashing, defending communist ideals so the students become liberal so that they support liberals so that they give power to government.

Education and indoctrination go hand in hand.

Just find likeminded friends. Stay quiet on your pol ideology. Get your marks, get your recommendations, and get out.

Isn't this a self-correcting problem though?
Useless turds finishing with useless degrees, unable to enter the workforce, due to being unemployable by design. Mommy dies, money dries (up), piece of shit has to reevaluate or starve.

>these courses are required as a 'diversity' credit
Why? you're paying to do STEM not Marxism, how does the college justify this vulgarity?

spotted the asian/middle easterner

If she doesn't want meaningless hookups, why the fuck is she using tinder?

I bet you superliked her didn't you

Call them Multiversities
>Base them on 4ch

Each board is a university department with a different ethos
/a = art and design
/b = divination and memeology
/pol = philosophical studies
/fit...
/sci... etc

each class you take is a thread.
>you can start a thread (forum)
(book a room to meet in)

people only involve themselves if they want to,
if one thread or board is being autistic, the other threads/board can raid them
>challenge them to a debate

then the students (who have now become their own masters) can self police
(violent autism = permaban)
(shitposting = ban)

universities could learn a lot from us who actually challenge our own opinions

Pretty smart. Remember to claim you're a jew and accuse everoyne of antisemitism

I actually love this idea user

The reason websites like Sup Forums are so popular. Is because they allow a free market of ideas to compete with one another. As long as it's on topic, there is generally no censorship or social repercussions of holding literally any position. It can also be challenged with any view point. This is what universities used to be known for/values for.

Even STEM fields are highly politicized and have been for quite a while now.

What bum ass university do you go to that requires humanities courses when you're in STEM?

> diversity credit

dude I go to KU too. but this is what we get for having a liberal uni in the heart of a liberal city

Academia is mostly just about personal prestige then actual learning. Everyone is only interested in writing papers about abstract concepts with no basis in reality or reviewing meta data with no actual impact. Then finding connections to cite their papers, perhaps without reading them in exchange for more citations. Those who intend to stay in academia fight among one another for tenure then just regurgitate textbook information with no intention of dissecting the validity or scientific basis of the content.

Then you have the actual researchers, if you're lucky enough to be on a research team. Rather then just a lab tech where your entire job is scrubbing shit from rodent cages. You'll still have to compete with other lab teams for grants like dogs in a show. Even if you manage to get research work that would have any basis in reality. You better not publish any 'controversial' conclusions, even if the data leads you to them. Otherwise you can be black listed

There has been a large effort to standardize humanities credits for all degrees for a while now. It's only recently that you also have to have extra courses on PC too. It used to just be added under 'general studies' credits

i just typed how monasteries worked in the 6th century and changed it to Sup Forums terms.

a good way is a good way

Fair enough, sadly the only way we may get something like that currently is through private universities. Even then good luck with getting accreditation after outside observers take a look at your model /content

On this note, when I was in college (Quebec fag here), I would constantly challenge the retarded liberal shit I would hear both from my teachers and my peers during my humanities courses. You'd be surprised with how many people will start openly agreeing with you once they realize that they're not the only one. Also, keep in mind that these Marxist professors (should) have PhD's, or atleast be in the process of getting a PhD, and they (should be) intelligent enough to respect well though-out arguments, even if they disagree. You have to remember that many professor spout Marxist shit only because it's safe to do so. I think you'd find that many of these profs will concede some ground once you challenge them.

oh, and obviously the /sci and /diy guys pay tuition by upgrades and maintenance, /k does security, /ck does 3 meals a day, /out grows the food.

free education and lecturers are just randomers with great knowledge of a topic or generally interesting people.

I don't disagree with challenging the narrative, but the farther along you get. The more cautious people tend to get, they don't want to risk losing the efforts they've made so far. By the time those that did get tenure and can safely challenge it, they normally don't because their desire to challenge it has been beaten down ad they've accepted apathy.

ive 100 acres and a big new shed

id love to get this shit on the road

>accreditation
the idea is that you'll have practical experience, degrees are worthless, and you can just spend all day on a useful project and build a portfolio of how much more useful you are than a nigger with inky toilet roll and a comfort blankie mentality

Have you heard of Waldorf educational approach? It's somewhat similar to what you're speaking of. It focuses first and foremost upon practical application of what is being learned. They mostly are schools in the mountains away from the public with tight knit communities though.

There's not much you really can do but bide your time
i'm not a shitskin
Not even STEM is exempt from this shit nowadays
I knew it was bad beforehand but I didn't know it was literally meme tier. Wescoe is the heart of Marxism on this campus

yea, i live in the countryside with a montessori play school, similar enough, then irish speaking schools take you until 16 and then off to bs schools, would complete an actual education herein my area

keep an eye out in future, im genuinely trying to do this

>go to a small local college
>only one teacher does sjw studies
>she has 5 students
>a obese whale in a wheelchair
>purple and cyan haired uggo
>3 skeletors
>The rest of the college is fairly apolitical
>A girl in our english class complains about having to analyse the body language of trump
>teacher explains that in the workforce, you're going to encounter differing opinions, so suck it up or quit.

If I were you I'd just fuck with them. Become a paragon of sjwness. Tell your professor to let the women sit at the front of the class, and if someone complains that you're being patronizing to women or that they have the same ability then tell her that she suffers from internalized misogyny and is defending the very systems oppressing her.

>the idea is that you'll have practical experience
Look into Waldorf educational model, it may be perfect for what you're looking to do.

>degrees are worthless
I agree, a degree is only as valuable as the place it comes from. When a school goes full retard, all the current and past students with degrees from that school have their credibility suffer.

It's much like how a high school degree became worthless over time with no child life behind and diversity quotas to force unqualified students through. For the sake of not appearing 'racist' by holding back the non-whites repetitively. As a result, everyone with a high school education was viewed as having less value.

>spend all day on a useful project and build a portfolio
Good, if you're serious pursue this approach. Put together a business plan

cut off federal funding?

>keep an eye out in future, im genuinely trying to do this
Good luck user, changing our current course will require many people like you replacing existing institutions in all sectors of society.

yea im 3 years into farming (people gotta eat)
built an extension onto what will be the campus building earlier this year, starting with "woofers" (organic farming volunteers) possibly next year.
planning on free compressed air power in the next 12 months

im running financial surplus atm so, fingers crossed

sup jayhawk user. Quantrill did nothing wrong.

t. KU alumn

> replacing existing institutions
they collapsed long ago desu

Not at all; they vote and lobby hard for a socialist takeover of government, then get mid- and high- ranking administrative jobs in the new, massively bloated state. Taxes go up accordingly, and before you know it - voila! Venezuela.

Unless you get rescued by someone like Deng Xiaoping who's ready to roll tanks over students. But don't hold your breath.

OH yeah BTW, I bet you thought Tiananmen was a bad thing huh? It was literally the last stand of capitalism against a surge of this shit taht would've dragged China into another 40 years of cultural revolution etc., or Venezuelad' it's economy.

Don't think for a second that the 'market will correct'. These people vote, and Bernie Sanders is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait and see what fucking shows up in 2020 on the left.

hurr learn a trade. Seriously, get a van, some tools and cruise around working for yourself making pretty good money.

Recent grad/Employed in a good paying job here.

The first thing you aught to do is to intern as soon as possible. Explore.

You probably don't have an idea what position you want and what industry you want to go in. It makes a ton of difference.

Try different industries/positions that your degree will allow you to get, and see how you like them.

And if you don't like any of them, switch degrees. Do this as soon as possible

Don't be like a lot of people that just meander and say to themselves "S-someone will hire me!!". Because that isn't going to happen.

And always remember. Look after yourself. You're there for yourself atop of anybody else.

> (OP)
virtually all of them bro

Disclaimer: Don't try this on female grad students, unless you enjoy Title IX investigations and accusations of rape.

I started uni at Rutgers and I thought it would be a liberal mess just like Sup Forums said but that was very wrong. During commencement speech the president of the campus said that all views are accepted, and that Rutgers is a ground of debate and reasoning. If you dont like someone elses views then start a civil debate not violence.

My cousin also goes to Rutgers, and she said that when Trump was elected there was anti-Trump protest in college avenue but there was also pro-Trump. No violence happened just general discourse and debate.

Sup Forums has fucked my mind over alot of things. Now that I am experiencing lots of the outside world I can see that Sup Forums needs to open up and stop being white supremacist retards.

>yea im 3 years into farming
Excellent, there is far to much disconnect from foo production in the western world. With even less people having the necessary skills to do so, much less cook these days it seems. I'm experimenting with some soil restoration and composting methods right now. Here in the USA, almost over 50% of all food produced gets disposed of. Most supermarkets are filled with food which is either imported from across the nation/other states or outside the country. Otherwise you have entire acres filled with mono-culture food production. We need to restore local food production and have wide range of crops/livestock on individual farms.

>im running financial surplus atm
I bet, I imagine it would be fairly easy to grow a specialty crop living just outside the city and selling it to restaurants right now for example. Another user said they where making 6figure income just by growing specialty mushrooms outside a city for example.

>they collapsed long ago desu
Perhaps not collapsed, but definitely rotting. As people are still using them, but there is definitely enough demand for replacements that anyone going into any sector to do so can make quite a living.

Absurd

>Let's discuss the absolute cesspit than is liberal academia.
>cut off federal funding?

No. Incntivize a marketplace for education.

No points per semester limits. No fixed set of years you're supposed to go to school for. Just set requirements to fulfil.

Standardized tests with no extra points, no special deductions, no diversity handicaps. Just tests. If you pass, you pass. You pass if you're 12 years old or 57. You pass if you were homeschooled, self-taught, went to a "normal" school, distance education, whatever.

Now you have a marketplace where you can have any form of tutoring to pass the tests, at the speed you can handle. This incentivized the fastest way to learn the most, instead of having decaying and overpaid cesspools where "diversity credit" is mandatory.

Fuck. That.

Suddenly no more tenured twats preaching marxism in mandatory WE WUZ class, because students don't want to waste their time and money. Suddenly no fucking around going over the same ideas over and over between different classes, everything needs to be tailored to what you already know and what you need to know to pass.

This would cut costs by billions and get rid of 90% of the dead rot, plus effectively eliminate campus crusades for marxism, since not even lefties are willing to pay for it.

Where's Quantrill when you need him?

Also, you really don't have to get involved.

Liberals will always be failures at life because their degrees will be worthless and they will be stuck in low paying jobs or unemployed.

We will win by squeezing the life out of the humanities/social science departments slowly so that they can't hire.

universities full of liberal anti jews

Promote Stalinism > National Bolshevism > National Socialism

Post your course catalog faggot. I'll tell you which classes to take.

Not sure what requirements are like at your uni, but when I went we needed 1 course from varying liberal arts groups for 'breadth and depth.' Thing is, there was almost always some course that was somewhat intelligent/interesting that fell under one of the categories. For example, Psych fell under humanities or some shit, and neuroscience (which actually uses scientific method and is too difficult for the average psych major) fell under psych.

Your other option is online courses which never require you to actually see your classmates. My uni had tons of online philosophy courses, which mostly involved reading some public domain writings (no textbook costs) and shitting out a couple paragraphs analyzing them.

I'm done with non-STEM courses after this semester so it doesn't matter
The 'diversity' section of my uni requirements doesn't have too many courses to choose from. Most of the options range from African American studies to the Sexual Revolution to Gender studies tier bullshit.

Then you go to the most liberal college in america. Im in the most liberal uni in NJ and we dont have that

i was in the states a few times, honestly, what i ate there, its a stretch to call it food.
That was a city though, so, I dont know.
I make a point of shaming people who cant grow anything at all, but in a haha funny way.

>you have 3 dogs, but cant grow beans
type humor, gets the noggin joggin for them

Yea,im just planting perennials atm, cattle are a great earner but ethically,i have a problem with them (i like them as a house pet)
rabbit and fowl are far better food sources.

looking to go into brewing soon (the perennials im planting)

People just need a can do attitude,but i dont think any amount of education can give them that (so we have these "vegans" eating lunches with 20,000 miles of transport between the different ingredients. but if you tell them to go and pick as much food, or dig potatoes etc to take home with them, theyre grossed out by "it might be dirty"

crazy

...

Get rid of X studies, womens studies, African studies, homo studies and purge Boasian "blank slate" sociology.

>'diversity' credit
Find a university that doesn't involve oxymorons.

Do you really find this "so offensive and leftist"? IF so you need to reevaluate your life.

This is simply classes on different cultures around the world not that big of a fucking deal.

Zuckyberger

This is what I did. My professors respected me for it and I was able to find the ones who were secretly conservative, there are some out there they are just not outspoken in fear of being considered racist. However they will respond to points if you point out flaws with the liberal / socialist teachings that are touted.

Pick a target uni and all of us redpilled people flood it with applications and take over the school culture. Within 2 years the dominant culture would have a huge shift, and freshman coming in would be redpilled by proximity exposure.

Do this for multiple uni's and we win.

Never said I'm offended by it, I just don't want to be forced to pay for something that doesn't help me in my degree path. It wouldn't be as bad if it were taught in an impartial manner but unfortunately the courses required for this credit are filled with Marxists.

>What I ate there, its a stretch to call it food.
Not surprising, this is a pretty common thing Europeans or other tourists seem to notice. If you live here or go to a super market, check the labels. It's a scavenger hunt to find anything without
-Massive amounts of sugar
-Corn(some type of corn like product)
-Soy (some type of soy like product)
-Excess artificial colors, preservatives then would actually be needed if at all

These days when I shop the only packaged items I get are meat, mixed nuts, seeds, and things of that nature. Vegetables are really cheap where I am, and most people don't tend to buy them anyway.

>That was a city though
City food can be good, if it's sourced from growers just outside. If it's from outside the nation or state it's normally loaded with one or all of the things I listed above.

>I make a point of shaming people who can't grow anything at all
Good, if we get our wishes of deporting all the illegals we're going to need natives to enter agriculture, be even more reliant on imports, or starve. People don't seem to realize that poor farming methods can contribute to/lead to desertification too. That not renewing top soil after seasonal tilling is a huge problem for long term ability to actually grow food in that location.

>You have three dogs
Almost everyone in the USA has some sort of animal that they didn't bother to read anything about proper care ahead of time too. Check out the ingredients of pet food if learning about what the humans are expected to eat hasn't horrified you enough.

>Rabbit and fowl are far better food sources
I agree but would add sheep. Sheep seem pretty idle and less trouble to take care of then cattle. Plus lamb is easily one of my favorite types of meats

>Looking to go into brewing soon
Hmm, not a fan of that, alcoholism is already a massive public health issue. Can't say I'd want to or would support contributing further to it.

Gyppo spotted

>I don't think any amount of education can give them that
Even if you educate them, there is almost no guarantee they'll retain or apply what they learned too. It's like medical staff smoking a cigarette after work. People largely lack ambition and guidance these days. Access to education is all around them

>We have these Vegans
Veganism was mostly a fad started by researchers being bribed to report consuming fat caused weight gain over sugar consumption too. The sugar industry has been trying to blame anything it can to take attention off itself among rising obesity epidemic.
npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

Digestive problems are becoming more common as people have less gut bacteria/less kinds too. But they'll blame it on things like gluten while still putting other shitty things into their body.

>It might be dirty
Yeah, it's not just removal from food supply which is troubling. But the natural world itself, people want things so sterile and don't realize they'll only pursuing their own destruction by doing so.

Archive
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Thanks Nordbro

Defund humanities

Disband sociology departments

It may be because I go to uni in Texas, but I've noticed an extreme lack of lefty shit Sup Forums warned me about, with an exception to the philosophy department ofc

Shit OP, I went to Texas Tech and I just got my MBA last December (engineering degree in 2015) and I was still in Lubbock recenty and I never saw this shit. I mean it was there but not like this.

Everyone was norrmal and it was just like how I expected a college to be, pretty neutral unless you were in a politicial clubor a English/Humanities major.

I may have exaggerated a bit about non whites being more prevalent. I'd estimate the student body to be about 50/50 white and non white mostly due to affirmative action.

I guess im just a food snob, i only share my nuts with squirrels
(im a hoot at parties)

>brewing
alcohol does have health benefits (de-worming people), and social benefits, but i agree, there is a cutting off point for everyone, but i cant police peoples lives and i can only give them alcohol that im willing to drink myself (organic and no anti freeze in it), and hope budweiser dies quickly.

>no guarantee they'll retain or apply
this is the idea behind the practical knowledge focus, if they find the job theyre meant for, and are given a chance to gain confidence at it, i think that allowing them to self-educate is the best option

>vegans
we just have edgy rebels that half starve themselves to feel like theyre saving the world, while doing nothing else.
I went veggie for a year (ate a blue steak and couldnt handle it too well), lost a ton of weight, felt cold and was miserable.
>i still remember that chicken sandwich i ate after 12 months of veggie, food poetry

>dirt
i love the stuff desu

You should have known more women and chinese go to college than white men.

In any case, who cares, bang some sluts, party when you can, and graduate in less than 6 years. It won't last forever, and the real professional world won't have sjws.

What are the chances the cute pure-looking girl in university is a virgin? There's so many cute girls who don't dress like whores but I am still wary.

theyre whores in the making
>but they could be YOUR whore

they could ALL be your whores

>I only share my nuts with squirrels
I share mine with the local crows, they love them

>Health benefits
Any health benefits are negated by the negatives, but I do strongly agree with your approach of
>I can only give them what I would use myself
If you decide to go sober carry that into reconsidering brewing

>Hope budweiser dies quickly
I'd celebrate alcohol consumption dying off itself, but don't think that's to likely as more and more people want to escape due to worsening rot of our societies

>this is the idea behind the practical knowledge focus
Yes indeed, it ties the information to something tangible and interesting to them personally. Like raising kids to grow their own food will spark interest in farming/botany. My parents started a farm project at the elementary school I went to to get all the kids interested by participating in all aspects of farming. It was tons of fun even though it was hard work

>Feel like they're saving the world
Yes, this is the other part, removal from reality. They don't understand the commonality of violence/death. Forcing them to ask themselves why they elevate one life form above another as having inherent value normally works somewhat. Linking the studies demonstrating plants are capable of self awareness, memorization, and 'feeling' when they're being eaten. They need to realize that death, violence, and murder are natural things. That every life form kills another to sustain itself. But this doesn't mean we should separate ourselves from the natural world to try and escape the cycle. We must accept it and find our place in it

>Lost a ton of weight, felt cold, and was miserable
What was your motivation for pursuing it, ethical concerns too?

>I love the stuff
Me too user, the fresh smell of healthy dirt is one of the best things

>What're the chances
How long a woman holds out from being a whore depends entirely upon her home life/how she was raised. Which almost always translates to how strong her relationship with her father is. Women have no place in education, they should be given away by their fathers to a man with his life together willing to take her on for life and give the father healthy grandkids.

Education is largely based around helping people to become providers. There is no need for a woman to be there in the first place as she is not a provider in a healthy relationship dynamic

16-18 year old women should be married off to a man in his late 20s-early 30s to bear him children and serve him loyally.

No man in his early 20s really has his shit together yet.

Because she's looking for meaningless hookups, she just doesn't want to admit it

I agree entirely, but I would reduce the age women should be married off to 14-16. Perhaps earlier depending upon the average rate of puberty in the society. Dating culture itself needs to be done away with, it relies on the false assumption that women are capable of making their own decisions. It should be based around a father making the selection, finding a man with enough resources to raise his future kids, provide/protect his life long lover.

Openly Marxist? Isn't it legal to kill communists in the US?

Get all your friends together, take notes and unironically class action sue them for racism at the end of the semester.

>Benefits
we'll agree to disagree on this im afraid, as an irishman, im in too deep
my local country pub is where the bar man sends (or even drives) people home if theyre drinking too much, and the neighbours have no problem pointing this out to you.

>i think medicinal herbs (some are beautiful)
are a great gateway to nature

>i agree completely
if the rooster was in your place, would he flinch to eat? I pity these people in a way (they pity me too) i have links and roots, they just bounce around with no goal. but they have "fun" (and usually complaining about something when not pointing this out to me)

>motivation
i ate a steak before it was anywhere near ready (blue, i like medium rare, the shame of not eating it well done with ketchup) and the texture of the flesh just made it too real (i was after feeding my cattle and it just felt alive in my stomach) but im not normally sqeemish about blood or death etc. was just one of those things i suppose. I was eating beef today, so, no harm done.

>smells
ive noticed a correlation between liking the smell of wet paint/petrol and not liking nature, anecdotal though)

OP, take an anthropology course. I took "Peoples of the World" and I will never forget the amount of virtue signalling that my dyke instructor did to glorify shit cultures. It opens your eyes to just how delusional some of these people are.

>As an Irishman, I'm in too deep
Yes, I see the alcoholism that those of Irish descent may suffer in the states too. I'm a Polish-American, so I see it plenty among Slavs too. It's one of the reasons I reject alcoholism as much as I do

>I think medical herbs are a great gateway to nature
I agree, teaching beneficial plants such as aloe, and coupling it with macro/micro nutritional information should be considered a must for each person

>if the rooster was in your place, would he flinch to eat?
Yes exactly user, I use a similar analogy, something like 'if you where in the spiders web, do you think it would hesitate?'

>But they have "fun"
Often time their 'fun' is just self indulgence too, when their poor choices catch up to them they're among the most miserable

>Before it was anywhere near done... it felt alive
I used to enjoy rawer meat then I do now, when I was studying parasites I forced myself to make it a habit to make sure to thoroughly cook my meat every time and still do now

>I've noticed a correlation between liking the smell of wet paint/petrol and not liking nature
I wonder to what extent living away from nature effects how the brains are wired. If we can reverse it by forcing people back into nature, perhaps similar to smokers not realizing their own lack of smell/taste or how they smell to others until they quit