Claims he hates ideology

>claims he hates ideology
>promotes his own ideology brand

Explain this shit to me?

He's constantly harping about how horrible ideologies are, but what he preaches about "sorting yourself out" could and technically is an ideology.

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because he is intrested in making the cult of personality of his own, he knows how to exploit kids who need a father figure and who look up to beat up sad looking grey haired while males, who remind them of themselves.

>taking care of yourself is an ideology

>Gets pissed if you call him right wing
>Threatens to sue
>Is actually right wing
Lol Peterson is such a fucking fraud. You always know if nu/shit/ is in love with you you've fucked up.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but what he promotes, as a whole, is an ideology.

He's doesn't like "politics" because Muh Nazis, Muh Commies, Muh Ideologies, but what he promotes is actually bready gud

Hes an semi-intelligent man who has found a way to make himself like a preacher to others.

"Sort yourself out" is more of a meme and is the counter to ideological thought. Don't try to give power to ideologies because a lot of messed up people will use ideology as an excuse to unleash resentment upon the world.

>He's doesn't like "politics"
Boy he sure does get involved in the shit for not being interested in it.

>Wahh but muh college safe spaces! I stand with Adam Corolla.
Lol white men. And you dumbshits wonder why the entire fucking planet despises you. Where's that "Why do they persecute me so?" pic with the white guy in a pool of blood?

....Its time to stop living in the echo chambers user.

Dr Peterson is presenting an ideology. Okay, that symantec out of the way...

Look about modern western society now, see how many horrible ideologies have taken root, and the negative consequences they have from pushing beliefs of 'What we wish was' despite them being quantifiably false given the data. So 'Sorting yourself out' is some rather solid advice, in the age of the internet especially, to develop some sense of self awareness and critical thinking tools, to investigate things for yourself.

Of course the current horseshoe paradigm despises this. Critical thinking, examining just what is this left and right political spectrum, among other social engineered mechanisms to sow divisiveness amongst people, and ensure political stability in oligarchies favor, cannot allow for such.

Well in today's world he is right wing if you are not closest to Marx

In his mind he's not involved with politics, he's fighting against the ideologies.

he's in it for the money, obviously. he was just some nobody lef prof before he got an alt right following. who are the idiots giving him 60K per month on patreon?

"Everything is white supremacy-
If everything is white supremacy, nothing is white supremacy." - Jazzhands McFeels

He's delusional. What a clean mind Jordan Peterless has to preach right wing politics to frogposters while considering himself a free thinker! Did he get his fucking degree at Sup Forums?

>speak out against nazis
>nazis get triggered
every time

That's more of this total bullshit right wing persecution narrative that passes for reality in America. America is almost as hard right as fascist Germany, but lies about it constantly. And of course the rich tell all the low IQ white male sociopaths that anything left of direct rule by the Military Industrial Complex is literally communism.

Jokes on you, bitch. I'm not a socialist.

most positive and constructive thing to have happened to loads of Sup Forumsestinians in recent years

Jordan Peterface "speaking out against nazis" is worth about as much as Sam Harris speaking out against jews: i.e. fuck all. You can't spam one view everywhere, then walk it back in one statement then expect everyone to forget your entire history of bullshit that contradicts yourself.

>Before he was popular, took the risk to voice his opinions that would have destroyed the average professor's academic career
>"He's in for the money"

Nice bait m8

>Jordan Peterface "speaking out against nazis" is worth about as much as Sam Harris speaking out against jews: i.e. fuck all
do you think that's all he talks about?
do you think that nazis shouldn't be criticized? lol

> your entire history of bullshit that contradicts yourself
explain

>ardently promotes western superiority

>Jews hate him

Gee

No he talks about plenty of things, but if I give a speech saying all jews should be gassed, then talk about frog metamorphosis and regenerative medicine, then try to say I'm not anti-semitic, you're going to think I'm pretty full of shit, aren't you?

I might think that if I didn't ask you what you meant by anything, however if you have a different understanding of what those words mean then it might not be a contradiction

Go away, Jordan, you retarded faggot. You're nowhere near as brilliant as you think yourself. You're just another pathetic frogposter slutting around for attention.

Your low IQ isn't my fault. And it shouldn't really be my problem, but here we are.

Well I live in Texas so I don't understand this Yankee talk you are spewing.

> Shill conflates philosophy with ideology

Bad shill! Bad!

i believed it was about someone calling him far-right. important distinction

LOL I went to take a shower expecting to have a thoughtful response by the time I came back
guess I should have expected this

How about this? Nuke Texas.He is far-right. He's just a fucking liar about it.
>I AM NOT FAR RIGHT I WILL SUE YOU!
>Man we have to do something about these SJWs huh?
He's like a less fat, shaved, greyer Sargon of Asshat.

When did he say he hates "ideology"?

Anything can be an ideology. See "eco-feminism"

>far right is equal to "opposing the far left"
are you a SJW by chance?

you are such a turd. if you can't see what peterson is trying to do then there is no hope for you.
just sort yourself out already and stop whining like a little girl

hes building himself up to run for pm in '19 when everyones forgotten about the tranny fiasco and hes just a bible humping psych professor in the eyes of the canadian public

what career no one cares about a canadian psychology prof making 40k a year.

No, faggot. The far left in America are people like antifa. And you're right to fear them.

>When did he say he hates "ideology"?
The same reason white nationalists say they're "independents" when you ask them.

I don't give a shit about humans. I'd prefer you all die.

>claims he hates ideology
how could anyone defend a position like that? I don't see Jordan Peterson taking one like that for sure, though I've only listened to a few of his videos.

That sounds like some nihilistic bullshit, "hating ideology." That is in and of itself an ideology.

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Shit I thought you said why. He says bullshit like this all the time.

>The same reason white nationalists say they're "independents" when you ask them

No, I mean, show me the footage, quote or video where Peterson says he hates ideology.

>claims he hates ideology
When? Give me a cited quote or a clip.

horseshoe and pendulum theory is as far from sjw as possible, it requires you to think of history as a cycle and to admit that ideas/movements come and go out of style
sjws think their ideas are the end all be all and that their movement is the only source of progress in society

better that than no fucking job at all, with no other university wanting to hire you because you said mean stuff about trans people.

The point being that the argument that "he was in for the money" is moronic. He was much more likely to find himself out of a job than to benefit from standing up and speak.

If you think he is promoting an ideology, you've clearly not understood. He teaches a rationalist meta-normative framework approach of problem solving the process of every-day life.

He is ok.
What i dont like is the double standard.
>we need to reduce 25% uní founds to kill x.
>I hace create a conde to detect post_modernist to de_platfirm them.
>why is google taking muy money
>google is making a conde ti censor some ideas

>No, faggot. The far left in America are people like antifa. And you're right to fear them.

you JUST greentexted
>I'm not far right!
>but we have to do something about SJWs
suggesting that's a contradiction

so I don't know what this "no, faggot" is expressing disagreement with

now you're revealing that you're an edgy nihilist
lool

I'm aware
I am arguing that being anti-sjw does not make you far right, which is what that poster was suggesting

Bitching about SJWs is neonazi dogwhistle.

so you ARE an sjw, gotcha

It absolutely does.

Well, I'm not because as I've already said, humans can burn in hell, but so what if I was? Name one thing wrong with fighting for social justice?

u trol me

So you're literally against social justice, but you don't think you're far right. Got it. Yes women need to stop voting and get the fuck back in the kitchen and what's up with all these fucking brown people?

I'm left wing btw.

What in the fuck is the context of your pic?

...

What the fuck are you on about

Horseshoe theory would also force SJWs to admit that, as they gain power, they get closer and closer to being fascists. Which is LITERALLY HITLER.

This .gif is watchable

lmao top tier

Yeah not so much.

youtube.com/watch?v=ATFyBRhCQvw&t=196s

Kike spotted

Your dad's fat pussy.

Ew god no! If I had my way all christians jews and muslims would be purged.

No, it's not
Ideologies are self-sufficient systems that dispense with renewal and updating, he believes there is too much he doesn't know to go about making any grand claims about your knowledge being sufficient

>promotes his own ideology brand

He promotes the same old jew-enabling Boomer Tradconservatism, just with a slight psychobabbly spin. He didn't invent it.

No.
His premises are deeply ideological.

You can take care of yourself without ever watching a single video of his.

Even though I agree with much of what he says this is probably true. Peterson is a huge capitalist. He's trying start some kind of online philosophy school on top of his university salary and he even has a Patreon ffs.

Wrong.
I don't think you know what ideology is.
All of the reasons he gives for why to do this stuff and what to value, what to critisize and why are deeply ideological. He has to justify his values with ideology because he is acting for a greater good and not for hinself.

You can endorse that,I dont.

Go home Brock you're drunk again

>getting responsability for your life and trying to do rigth to you, your family and society
>bad
you are just a commie jew

The way is to undermine all ideologies not create new ones.

It is only a matter of time before those beginn to rott as well.

Nu males.

>almost as hard right as fascist germany

Why is your education so fucking bad.
How can you say shit like that and not feel any shame ? I just can not grasp it. You are truly the nation of mongrels.

Stop your bs, come up with arguments instead of complaining, you low-iq whining bitch

>calls enviromentalists "religious" without the faith in a derogatory manner
>gives no proper definition for "religion" or "faith"
>caring about anything that he doesn't care about is being an ideologue
>says he's a christian
>when asked if he believes jesus ressurected he can't even answer the question

Daily reminder even the biggest modern intellectuals are morons.

I didn't say I believe horseshoe theory and I don't know what that video is about cause I'm not gonna watch it. I just meant that IF they accept horseshoe theory, THEN they have to accept themselves as surprisingly close to fascists.

It's a meta-ideology

>"sorting yourself out"

What ideology would that be?

Btw if you've listened to anything he's said, he makes the distinction between ideologies and pathological ideology. Is "sorting yourself out" a pathological ideology? Honestly, how can you be that stupid and think he's against anything that shows any conviction in any principle.

Where's the picture of him in makeup?

To be affective against that what kp is trying to fight against one has to subvert all ideologies and not create new ones.

Well the inslconsistency is a feature of ideology.

Collectivism v Divine Individualism

>He's constantly harping about how horrible ideologies are, but what he preaches about "sorting yourself out" could and technically is an ideology.
being a kikeposter

There is some truth to it, but what you are forgetting is basic human nature.
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It's not his fault people are sheep.
I've watched alot of what his videos, they are good. Not all people will understand them. He is the one who have come closest to saying it.(pic related), so, at least he is doing more good then bad. IMO.

the picture

This is not social justice since it comes at the cost of the interrests of men , families, high achieving foreigner like asians, social stability, economic exploitation (women working for less and migration),

You can have your fkn vote but men don't want to live in your societies. Also I know that the family life is not achievable for a lot of women. They are just born ugly and noone is going to marry them. It is obs that their reproductive chances are way higher in a matriarchal, femminist society like sweden.

This is not what we will become. One way or another it is a battle that you will loose.

In my wallet

You can do that without some ideological super injunction.

It's different ok. It's the RIGHT ideology. Yea...

Life affirmative, make yourself a productive citizen for shlohmo, ideology.

Or christian ideology since he is a christian.
humanitarian ideology etc.

>anything can be an ideology
Is exactly the post modern bullshit he's talking about.

His ideology is to hate other ideologies.

you're a brainlet

because individualism

you make it sound like he is some sort of sinister cult leader but in all honesty he came across as nothing but highly caring, elaborate in his intellectual approaches, reasonable and being a fucking bro to pretty much anybody who'd need his guidance.

>In Jordan Peterson's own mind

>Why is your education so fucking bad.
Why is yours?

>How can you say shit like that and not feel any shame?
Shame for what? America's killed more people since WWII than you niggers did during it.

>it comes at the cost of the interrests of men
God forbid anything should cut into your power, right?

>Men commit almost all crime
>Give society over to the criminals or else!

good point as well.

collectivism from ideologies leads to braindead drones and non-individuals who stop questioning and breaking the status quo

individualism brings out your inner light and inspires others but without the danger of it turning them into mindless followers.

I need to amend this. I mean during muh holocaust. Not the 50 trillion Russians who died. Kind of hard to know who to blame for that.