Yfw Americans think anything with state involvement is socialism

>yfw Americans think anything with state involvement is socialism
How did their view of reality become so warped? Republican and fox news propaganda?

>Warped
It's literally one of our founding principles to do things yourself and not trust the government. Not our fault Europe has gone off the deep end

Even the Founders realized giving the government too little power was stupid.

How'd that revolution over tax without representation go for you ?

it is not americans, user, it is ancaps

Because the kikes used a false dichotomy of capitalism vs communism to make people think that these are the only two options, even though this is purely a bullshit materialist way of looking at things that completely fails to take things like culture, race, and nationalism into account. Both sides of the jewish shekel want us to be atomized individualized workers, rather than having any sense of pride in something greater than ourselves.

it goes back to the founding. the northern colonies were communal but the southern and frontier settlers were based around individuals and companies.

Any state involvement is socialism.
Just because communists can't make a distinguishment between communism and socialism it doesn't mean they're the same thing.
Taxation is socialism.
Police force is socialism.
Muh free healthcare is socialism.
Even border control and deportations are socialism.

ancap retards, giant multinationals, and the uber wealthy that own the multinationals. it goes without saying that the multinationals and uber wealthy engage in funding propaganda to get the ignorant on board.

>what was Shays' Rebellion
>what was the Whiskey Rebellion

Ancaps are 99% of the time either Americans or jews. Not much difference between the two these days. Americans are uniquely vulnerable to fantasies like anarcho capitlism.

The soviets corrupted our education system in the 70s and now the students from the 70s are the proffessors, welcome to the first step of Marxism and cultural enrichment. Fuck George Orwell btw glad he's burning in hell. Social just is a major factor as well. Only 43% of america are Christian whites, fucking breaks my heart.

What happens if you do this?

You get sued if you evade taxes.

How is that related to you believing anytying with state involvement is socialism. And the Soviets never had that much power or influence, stop believing that Russian liar.

You get put in jail because you'd still reap the benefits of the rule of law, police force, etc, without shouldering any of the burden.

Or alternatively you could fuck off to the middle of nowhere in Montana, build a shack, grow your own food, and hope that you don't die. No one would bother you if you do that.

i dont know, it is an US tendence, ut thereare plenty ancap retards here
i guess you dont shake hands...
you go to live to res nihilium lands or buy a private island

The social contract was signed before you were born and society has continued with the assumption that future generations will uphold it. That's we place so much emphasis on making life better for out descendents.

Our descendants? Don't you mean foreign hordes?

Latvia with the bantz

Our entire existence is based on resisting over reaching tyrannical govt and promotion of individual liberty and sovereignty.

Whereas your existence is based on total submission to the supreme divine authority of an incestuous family whole rules and dominates you in every sense because everything including you are their property. But it's okay because the chain they put on you is pretty and you actually like being a slave. God save the queen and all that.

But hey keeping thinking you are better.

pretty good considering we're a super power and you've lost your empire

Then you forfeit your right to enjoy the direct and indirect benefits of living in the state.

in other words, you need to leave the country.

lmao, argument swiftly demolished

>yfw Britbongs think anything with diversity involvement is progression

>That's we place so much emphasis on making life better for out descendents.

lol, not after the boomers took over. Then it became "how can we make up-front gains for ourselves while pushing the debts and consequences onto our children after we're old/dead?"

>what is ruby ridge

Because otherwise we'd end up like your 1984 orwellian nanny state

The guy was selling guns though. Not exactly low profile.

A contract is voluntary by definition.
The idea of the social contract is involuntary.
It's not a contract. It's a promise made by the state to not press its boot on your neck too hard. Problem is, that promise doesn't tend to stick over long periods of time and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.

Socialism is defined as state owned industry, but as an ethos, it can mean a general opposition to the right to own private property. A tax hike, for example, means you get to keep less of the product of your labor, because other people decided that they wanted it and voted for it.

The problem with that, is the general erosion of property rights has an unmistakable track record of turning prosperous countries into starving, poor, and totalitarian shitholes like Venezuela. That's why libertarians oppose socialism in any form. Hope that helps.

>It's not a contract
>why was feudalism era
barabrian niggers rekt

>oh no of course ill hand over my guns mr govt haha
>oh i dont agree with those taxes but a 75% rate isn't too bad
>oh tyrone doesnt work but gets the same medical care? thats cool haha ill just wait in line
>man saving money when all of it goes to funding others sure is hard!
>i love that all my infrastructure goes to subsidizing major corporations so they can peddle their bullshit products on me and make it impossible to start my own business
> i love that all these prices are artifically maintained and that the govt hinders price discovery so the can steal my money and hand it over to niggers and shitskins
cuck

>this obsessed

That's a bug in the system that needs to be fixed. Not for you though, Latvia doesn't have a foreign horde problem.

>involuntary
You're free to leave.

Ebin brainwashing

>communist countries were prosperous beforehand
lol

>needing a parent to hold your hand

We threw England out of here a long time ago, and there's a damn good reason. We have this radical notion of personal responsibility and self sufficiency that is incomprehensible to any other culture on earth aparently.

How did you become so weak as to need to rob your fellow citizens for welfare?

>Republican and fox news propaganda?

Mainstream media in general.

dont create false equivalencies if you want to whine about the opposition of your choice, it makes you look retarded.

>Implying it isn't.
Call me when you country gets rid of Public Transportation.

>A contract is voluntary by definition.
>The idea of the social contract is involuntary.
>It's not a contract. It's a promise made by the state to not press its boot on your neck too hard. Problem is, that promise doesn't tend to stick over long periods of time and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
You're free to go somewhere where the social contract doesn't exist. The desert, jungle, an unclaimed island, wherever you please. Don't expect the civilizations built on the social contract to cater to your childish fantasies.

Fucking this, can't the world know we just want freedom?

Go to the amazon jungle. You'll be totally free.

>ACTUALLY THE SCANDANAVIAN MODEL OF SOCIALISM IS WORKING QUITE WELL, NO?

Don't be a goof, the freedom in the Amazon jungle isn't on par of my American physique