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literally every nation in the history of existence has done it

what was the name of the country that white people were walking into?

not an argument

There were no organized countries in North America until Europeans colonised it.

>I couldn't imagine conquering a tribe, enslaving them, and keeping their land for my own

Do you really want to go there? Because we could start playing that game and just start cutting the throats of the invaders. It didn't work out for them because they were so badly outnumbered but I have a feeling it could work out for us.

1) No country existed in America when colonists arrived.
2) Colonists built everything they used themselves.
3) They never demanded Indians give them things.
4) They never appealed to Indian authority to settle.
5) Niggers did everything on that list

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This. They literally didn't walk into a country, there was no country

White people did things people consider war crimes today while they were colonizing. The only reason people think they are crimes are because white people banned them. White people were the first to ban slavery and every other war crime. There are only a few non-white countries like Japan where criminals are treated so well, and they learned it all from whites. You think you'll get a fair trial with an impartial judge in Congo? Colonization creates prosperity for everyone, not just whites.

There were no countries when colonization happened and settlers never asked for anything without trade.

>Implying we were that nice
Redskins didn't do shit with the abundance of resources they had. We've created the greatest Empire our world has ever seen, preceded by our glorious white predecessors from Europe (Namely British and German) Fuck off.

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But some Indian tribes fought with the Confederates to keep their slaves.

I'm a Native American, you DACA dipshits can get the fuck out of my land before the whites for all I care. At least they built shit here and have a pretty good system. You spics and wetbacks are just fucking parasites and it's obvious as hell. Fuck you, your family, and everyone like you.

Historical Colonist: Nonwhites are inferior and need the white man to civilize them.

Modern Leftist: Nonwhites are equal and need the white man to civilize them because of the horrors of Colonialism.

>implying the native indians had a country and were capable of enforcing a border

Niggers can't learns bout history and how it works.

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>free stuff
lul

So we should stop immigration

So does he think colonialism was justified? hm interesting argument for a leftie

and that niggers ancestors will have waged war, committed rape, committed murder, enslaved and exploited or stolen from others.

Everyone has countless ancestors who have committed incredible cruelty.
until very recently the world was a very crule place where every country or king would wage war if they had the overwhelming might to conquer or force others.

so yeah , no shit bad things happened in the past.
how does that mean it is ok for bad things to happen today?
we can't change the past but we can make sure that crimes aren't committed today and punish them when they do.

They didn't ask for free stuff, they traded shiny beads and liqueur for the indians land.
They're also almost universally bashed for it, not praised as it being a right because #noborders

only at the beginning with a pseudo communist structure did the whites need help from the reds. And even still they just asked.
And north America was near apocalyptic population levels, the death of the reads was due to a lack of germ theory, that they came up with later.

>this outdated meme

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsenacommacah

Indians didn't give a fuck apparently and neither did the rest. Niggers and muslims kept on with the slave trade, jews took their ships to countries where it was legal until there was nowhere for them to go.

Every race should thank white people for ending slavery

>free stuff
There was fucking nothing there. The Pioneers created everything they had, or traded things they made for things the natives had.

This. The indians fucking scalped whites for "illegal immigrating to a land that nobody claimed ownership of" does he really want that?

>indians owned land
nice meme

My family got here legally in the 1890s

Slavery is only outlawed in places like Saudi Arabia in name. In practice it still exists.

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How good did that immigration turn out for the Tsenacommacah nation and people?

They didn't demand anything they forcefully took the land ownership or traded for it.

>it's ok if other people did it hundreds of years ago
Congratulations you dumbfuck nigger, you just became my slave.

>en.m.wikipedia.org

kill yourself

And are we our ancestors? No, stop pushing this strawman you fucking faggot.

easiest answer to shit like this is

>Well it was wrong back then, it shouldn't have happened, and it's still wrong now!

it 100% disarms them and there is nothing they can say back without playing directly into your hand

>not landing on our shores starving like dirty refugees
>not dependent upon the native man to teach them the geography and how to survive in it.
>not dependent upon indian trade and agriculture
>not backstabbing the indians the first chance they gave them their hand
>not contaminating the native man with disgusting pig diseases.
>not savagely raping, pillaging, and murdering everyone including children

yea sounds like hard working refugees if you ask me.

The Native Americans didn't have a country. If they can run around on land and settle here and settle there, then I guess white men could too. Why not?
Native immigrated, we immigrated. Oh and we built stuff. That's what they didn't like.
Too bad.

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>traveling to an undeveloped territory populated by savages and killing them and building infastructure through your own blood sweat and tears
>same as niggers and immigrants collecting welfare from the infastructure of that civilization your ancestors built.

try again OP maybe you will do better next time.

>free stuff

Two wrongs don't make a right

good point
amnesty for spics
legalize nigger slaves
???
profit

'demand free stuff' when did white people do that? they built the country not demanded gibz. Black IQ jeez, If he's that righteous why doesn't he give his share back to the indians and fuck off back to africa?

"Immigration" is distinct from "conquest." The European settlers of North America didn't ask for shit. They took it by force. It's the way the world has worked since before there were even people. Europeans won, the natives lost. To suggest that somehow the decendants of those original Conquistadors should simply roll over and allow themselves to be conquered in turn is asinine. There are winners and losers in life, and it is much better to be a winner. Conquistadors win.

historical revisionism; a favored tool of the leftists

I still don't see what was wrong about it. You have a bunch of " Natives " who just immigrated and run around hog wild settling here and there and moving around.
Okay so why can't the white man come and do that? Are Indians special people that only THEY get to run around and settle on land they immigrated to and do nothing with?
White people did JUST the same thing, except a little later, and we built stuff. And the Indians didn't like us building stuff.
Oh too fucking bad. Losers.

oh man i forgot about all those Indian welfare programs

>Well Sup Forums?
Half native here.
Would really appreciate if you stopped using us to push your antiwhite political agenda
Protip: if a Native hates whites, he doesn't give a shit if you're liberal, he hates you just as much.

Because a military occupation is different from being a gibs minority. The former at least has the guts to fight for a home for his family and countrymen, instead of fleeing with your other males to rape some women and live off the government.

The strong do what they can the weak suffer what they must.

>white settlers didn't ask for free stuff

And the DACA dreamers aren't asking for free stuff either. They're asking for a chance to continue working in a country they were brought into without a choice while getting a citizenship, in exchange for labor, and through a renewed license. Why is Sup Forums against DACA? There's a difference between illegal immigrants who chose to come here, and illegal immigrants suffering because of it.

Atleast the natives gave a fight.

I forgot the Founding Fathers were all natives.

That's a damn lie and you know it. I'm a manager at a grocery store and half the EBT cards are held by illegals.

arh the great native american welfare state. how could we ever forget.

>black intellectuals

Good thing they are going to be legal here anyways. It's only a matter of time really. It's not like Trump can really stop it. :)

Didn't demand free stuff. Came in, provided for themselves, conquered land. Niggers can go die of AIDS and Ebola.

>the pilgrims just showed up and were given free stuff by the injuns

Oh look, another retard for the ovens

>There's a difference between illegal immigrants who chose to come here, and illegal immigrants suffering because of it.
There is. And there is also many things in common, like not being citizens.
One request, start framing your question differently. Like, "Why is America the only country with anchor babies?" Instead of "Why is America so against anchor babies!"
How come when America tries to enact the same common sense laws as other countries they're labeled as racists and bigots but the other countries aren't?
Also, DACA is an incentive for further illegal immigration, so even if it has great benefits, its cost is still high.
Hey, if your wife ever gets raped by an illegal immigrant you can rest easy knowing that your Government paid for that rapists kids college.

Not only did my ancestors not do that, but I wouldn't be responsible for their actions even if they had done it.

>muh noble savage

fuck off kike shill

Sup Forums tard gets triggered
>shill
>kike!!

Ah yes, the great Indian nation of....
and their great capital city....
and their great wonders....
a whole civilization ruined.

>be black
>make a statement punctuated with a question mark

Our ancestors conquered a nation. Your ancestors are demanding free shit.

>whites invade America
>Leave behind civilization
>spics invade the US and kill said civilization
>hurr hurr ogaa boogaa ur ancestors did it toO!
Are all black people like this?

Provide proof of land ownership or you're full of shit.

People are just pissed off that white people won a war against a bunch of hunter gatherers, and therefore should welcome, open arms, other people doing the same thing.

Niggers don't know anything about history. The land was conquered, just as people have conquered land throughout history so too have whites. Why doesn't the uppity nigger address the fact that his people think it's acceptable to steal from everyone and yet blame others for stealing

>implying black people are native american
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This, too.
I didn't do it, so why should I have to provide for others who are doing it?
Frankly, they should be treated like the invaders they are and dealt with accordingly.

They brought an army. Conquest is different.

>And the DACA dreamers aren't asking for free stuff either.
Citizenship isn't free.
go ask for Mexican citizenship,see what they say.

everyone is wrong.

Well this is the crux of the argument, isn't it?

Why do two wrongs make a right? They hate and denounce these 'ancestors', then copy them? Theyre right that we are all equal - because all casts of human want to attain power through acts like invasion.

Its just greed, power, corruption, hypocrisy. All humans do this when they find a big enough group.

I can't imagine being able to do it without a fight. For some reason, we're just supposed to allow it.
At least the Indians fought back until smallpox and superior numbers brought them down.

You absolutely ignorant cunt. I bet you suck bernie sanders cock don't you? Just another retarded socialist moron with no understanding of history. Parasites like you rely on white people

>HAHAH you're ancestors came and wiped out the natives and stole all their land
>And now you DONT want that to happen to you?
>WTF do you have some kind of self preservation instinct or what?
>just die white males for (((justice)))

My ancestors were dirt poor french fishermen

My response is he should look into how accepting such behavior worked out for the natives.

there were countries, but in theri earliest, tribal state, and i dont think they had any stuff, let alone free stuff to offer to you

>White people are scum!
>Please white people help us!
Sup Forums How do you respond?

>also implying blacks from any continent never stole land and resources from other tribes

hurr durr

What is wrong with Wikipedia?

no

>revisionist history in the styling of neo Marxist kike agenda
>call it out for what it is
>lol triggered

>wah I'm going to resort to name calling
>he doesn't understand history but I won't offer an proper rebuttal on his points

>Implying my ancestors (who arrived in the mid 1600s) had food stamps, fudged SAT scores, government paid college tuition and fake social security cards.

>any history I don't like is revisionist

Scalpings when?

It's not even like trump is trying to get rid of it. It's like I live in an alternate reality as my liberal peers.

You exterminated those indians though, it wasn't like the spanish who fought and conquered those empires.

well stop sucking dick OP and spamming this trash every day you fucking shipps sage and kys

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>What is wrong with Wikipedia?

look I can makes stuff up and publish on the interwebs too!