Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Brody Rogers
I GOT TWO TICKETS TO CLASS CONSCIOUS PARADISE
Joseph Richardson
NatSoc gets the copter too.
Aiden Bennett
Friendly reminder to all of you who will shitpost or drop redpills, please SAGE the thread at options. Thank you.
Evan James
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Austin Reyes
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Elijah Murphy
Labour Theory of Value (LTV):
Non arguments:
>If I dig a hole in my backyard and then fill it in I used labor but made no value! Commies BTFO!
Marx clarified (unlike adam smith) that only socially nessary labor (labor used to produce a commodity with use value) creates value. This is also the case if you spend 1000 years making a bed.
>Nature can create value as well. If an apple falls from a tree then value is created without labor
Marx also noted nature could create value.
>if labor determines price why is coca cola cheaper than bottled water?
Labor doesn't determine price. It determines value (not exchange value or use value) and correlates with the equilibrium price. Supply and demand determine price.
Machines cannot create value. If I make a machine that makes diamonds out of thin air then the value of a diamond falls below that of bricks now that they can be aquired with no work what so ever. Price might not fall because you can still manipulate supply and demand but value certainly does.
Some definitions.
Use value = How useful an object is. Exchange value = Market value of a commodity. Different from use value. You can sell a beanie baby for 200$ but it is almost completely useless. Value = the amount of congealed labor withing a commodity.
Marx got Hegel wrong. You're getting Hegel wrong. LTV is a fart in the wind, and you can't even smell it.
Logan Foster
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Gabriel Moore
Damn you, I'm trying to be the first to post that delicious pasta for days but an autist like you beats me every time.
Aaron Sanders
Did someone say communist?
James Roberts
D A N K May-May F U K K E N S A V E D
Robert Kelly
Can OP someone explain to me how constructivism in IR theory is bullshit? I'm trying to get my head around it but it doesn't seem to take into account many material factors for state actors actions and only relies on "cultural" and "identity" reasons without explaining how material conditions influence culture and identity.
Daniel Clark
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Angel Green
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Nicholas Russell
Basically looking for a simplified materialist/Marxist critique of Constructivist IR theory.
Logan Gray
Faggot
Liam Kelly
Imagine what could you achieve if you spent all this time learning useful skills instead of pseudo-scienctific marxist crap.
Ian Myers
>Imagine what could you achieve if you spent all this time learning useful skills instead of pseudo-scienctific marxist crap.
He says posting from Lithuania. Top fucking kek.
James Mitchell
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Joshua Ward
Marxism is meant to keep the 110-140 iq range distracted with pseudo-science. That's it's design. Critical theory is a Rothschild invention. No marxist can prove me wrong.
Jaxon Butler
Protip: Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it "pseudo-science"
Cameron Carter
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Hudson Harris
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Nathan Cox
Bootlickers are so predictable. They just trot out the same tired old arguments, time after weary time.
Josiah Walker
Marxist aspiration to appear scientific is so laughable, trying to separate itself from "utopianism" etc. Just because you say something is science, it does not make it so. It has to apply to real world laws and withstand tests, which marxism failed to do. You all are flat-earthers of political/economic science.
Ethan Miller
> Vietnam and Korea started by the US > Natural disasters are capitalists fault > cigarettes are only smoked in capitalist countries
Neeto
Jason Long
Please show your workings, comrade.
Austin Bennett
DINNER'S READY!
Liam King
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Ryan Scott
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Matthew Ramirez
>not including the worst death count Drumpf/White People: 100,000,000,000
Elijah Bailey
I love you
Jace Sullivan
Tell our communist friend about the Battle of the Sausages finnbro. Its my favorite Winter War story
Luis Russell
I want the benis in anus version of this pasta also sage
Ethan Perry
Oh yeah, funny you should mention it
>23 DECEMBER 1939, KUOMASJARVI ISTHMUS, RAATE-SUOMUSSALMI ROAD: The actions between 11 and 13 December effectively halted the Soviet advance on Suomussalmi through the Raate Road. Finnish troops quickly grasped the initiative and launched strong counterattacks towards Suomussalmi and Raate directions. The Ukrainian 44th Motorized Rifle Division, unable to reach the encircled 163rd Rifle Division at Suomussalmi, was fighting for its own survival along the icy road. After 20 December, Finnish troops followed a different pattern on their actions. Rather than conventional maneuvers in regimental level, they launched small sudden strikes against the flanks and the encampments of the enemy. On 22 December, Battle Group Makinen (Osasto Makinen) was facing a single battalion from the 44th Rifle Division at the Eastern edge of the Raate Road. The 9th Division HQ reinforced Makinen with several antitank units and light infantry companies. Makinen's orders were attacking the Russian formations at the narrow isthmus between the lakes of Kuomasjarvi and Kuivasjarvi. Makinen's attack started on 23rd December with the advance of the spearhead, 1st Battalion of the 27th Regiment (I/27JR). The battalion failed in taking the isthmus as the Soviet defenders had already erected some field fortifications and were supported by tanks. However by noon units from the I/27JR surprised a Russian column resting and refitting along the road. Finnish troops launched the attack from several directions while Russians reinforcements tried to turn the table. Makinen's troops especially targeted the Russian field kitchens along with the heavy weapons in the column. Field kitchens were regarded as prime targets by the Finns, as high protein and warm food were vital to fight in the arctic climate. A reason why Finns used to call the Winter War, "The Sausage War".
Nathan Richardson
Give me one argument why killing innocent civilians in terror attacks in my country and through south america was justified, burger fuckface, kike loving shit.
Adam Cooper
Well,if I had a machine that made diamonds out of pure air, for sure I would not flood the market with cheap diamonds until they loose any money. Thus, my intelect creates money. As you fail to see such simple princeples, my intellect is clearly supperior to yours. Thus the capacity of individuals to create value greatly differs. Which is, on any level, yet another example why communism is retarded and won't ever work as intended
Jonathan Cox
Every time you mention that the entire domain of marxian theory is stupid the marxian will rebuke you for not approaching within the domain specific lanugage (DSL) of their ideological framework without ever acknowledging that an argument has been presented. It will be out-of-hand dismissed as not an argument. This is a sign that you're dealing with a literal pot-belly goblin. One who's so very sold on the globalist agenda, be it for their own power, or just some feeling of belonging to something greater, that they cannot possibly conceive of conceptions beyond marxian thought. They've bought into the DSL framework and cannot think properly.
>Basically looking for a simplified materialist/Marxist critique of Constructivist IR theory.
You have to be spoon-fed because the hammer knocked out your teeth, and the sickle cut off your tongue.
Noah Russell
>bootlickers >supporting an inherently authoritarian ideology Pick one
Cameron Peterson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Zachary Cox
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why dhe fug :DD are we on Sup Forums ????
Sup Forums iz an inderned hod pogged for eberyding we obbose dherefor id iz only nadural for us homos to gome here to bring u aidz and benis in anus :DDD.
