Any student of the Third Reich who has read Mein Kampf can clearly see Hitler's confession that he borrowed all of his methods from the communist/left in order to "rouse the masses" to his cause.
There's no denying that leftist political methods are indeed popular and appeal to the most basest desires in the human spirit.
Even the red of the banner of the NSDAP is majority red because of the communist banner.
To quote Hitler, "I became a revolutionary in order to combat the revolution".
Hitler was the SJW of his time, or at least was in touch with the power of "feelings" above rational argument, his "feelings" about the German volk trumped all rational argument. This is the reason that millions of women fell head over heels for Hitler, which Hitler always attributed to his success - by appealing to women in the audience he would automatically arouse the children, and the men would follow in line.
Republicanism isn't the ultimate redpill, fascism is. It's more of a radical centrist movement slightly leaning toward the right mainly just because the left as it is today is associated with cancer, and degeneracy.
Aiden Myers
>HE BORROWED METHODS FROM THE LEFT He was leftist.
Dylan King
Hitler said he didn't have to nationalize industry if he could make the industrialists nationalistic.
Also, Danzig was German.
Julian Torres
All of Hitler's speeches amount to "Good news faggots you don't have to think anymore I will do it for you now go get ready to die for Germany".
As a rugged American individualist I have no idea why that was attractive to the German.
Hudson Barnes
>All of Hitler's speeches amount to "Good news faggots you don't have to think anymore I will do it for you now go get ready to die for Germany".
You clearly haven't read or heard a Hitler speech in your entire life if you've come to that conclusion.
Hitler merely told people what they wanted to hear, just like Trump: the difference of course that Hitler actually believed what the people wanted.
Henry Cooper
>Hitler said he didn't have to nationalize industry if he could make the industrialists nationalistic. What could he mean by that? Hmmm... >How to make industrialist nationalistic? >I don't know, It's very unlikely if at all possible. >Let's nationalize industry then.
Are you really british and this stupid, or just cowering your real flag, faggot?
Ayden Wood
>Danzig MOTHAH
Adam Miller
>What could he mean by that?
Only a woman or a jew answers a question with a question.
And for the second time, Danzig is German.
Juan Martinez
this, >NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY take note of the word "socialist". sure he hated commies, and was right to do so, sure there was some private ownership, but the market was controlled by the government along with everything else, it enforced social policies it germany was pretty fucking similar to communist countries.
not that there's anything wrong with that
Charles Lopez
But are you defining socialism in terms of leftist socialism or how Hitler defined it personally?
See here:
>"Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
>"We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
If it is this brand of Socialism of which you speak, then yes Hitler is a socialist.
>Hitler was a leftist >Hitler was a rightist National socialism is, and always has been, a third position.
Joshua Bell
You guys can fight over the message, the semantics, whatever. It doesn't matter. What matters is following the philosophical principles of National Socialism. This will build you into a healthy, strong and free individual setting an example for your family and those who meet you.
Be the change you want to see, and others will follow you. NatSoc if followed properly, will make you a leader.
See you in the NatSoc General.
Luis Murphy
>What matters is following the philosophical principles of National Socialism.
This is not in dispute, the methods employed in order to attract membership is.
Benjamin Richardson
Judo masta say to get to the level of the aggressor.
Landon Cruz
That requires a rebrand and making it clear that no retards are allowed in. You'd have to make it super hard to join, and that only specifics can be allowed in.
So basically impossible in today's impatient and reactionary world. The most we can do is just follow it and hopefully others change their minds after they see model examples.
To be honest, you'd have to evolve it a bit for today's world. One step in my opinion is to across the board somehow agree to change or adapt for modern day. Unfortunately today you can't preach everything, 2017 NatSoc can't completely be 1939 NatSoc since the world was very different.
How to do that, not sure.
Tyler Young
No you're wrong. Left itself modeled their political organizations on capitalist organizations, parties and unions. They did not invent anything. To say what nat-socs or fascists aped the left is stupid. Revolutions and mass movements are not leftists trademark.
Revolutionary movements from their original birth were actually nationalist, anti-monarchist and POPULIST.
Wyatt Barnes
He's just saying to utilize the memes that actually work, same as we do. The alt-right can learn a lot from the radical left, take their tactics and subvert them.
Juan Reed
there's not leftist socialism and right wing socialism. socialism and being socially concious is inherently a leftist idea, whereas capitalism, thinking about you and your profits is inherently a right wing idea.
now politicians in any time shit up ideologies and twist and pull and invent new ones, but that basic distinction between left and right still stands.
now i hate commies but i don't think socialism is bad per se, also i think there's a lot of misconceptions about socialism. what you described in those quotes are leftist ideas that i agree with. just because the left is retarded nowadays that doesn't mean shit.
for example nazi germany was considered far right, while romania during our gommunist years was considered left wing. still germany had government controlled social and economical policies ( a trait of a left wing state ) while romania had a free market, and exported shit and was competetive in many global markets, socially nationalism was highly encouraged, to the point of inventing myth of heroism in our country's history and also ethnic cohesion was highly encouraged while minorities were kinda persecuted if they didn't fall in line with the state program
>tl;dr left and right are relative concepts, nazi germany could have been considered left while some gommunist countries can be considered right wing
Ian Perry
In a world of universal suffrage winning over the women is the key to success.
Jason Morales
>HITLER SUCCEEDED BECAUSE HE BORROWED METHODS FROM THE LEFT Like murdering millions of people?
Caleb Young
The jewish shill posts need to end.
Austin Flores
Successful leaders have to appeal to the average IQ knuckle dragging moron because muh bell curve.
Austin Gomez
>Even the red of the banner of the NSDAP is majority red because of the communist banner
The red represents the blood spilled when he and his people first tried to take power you fucking idiot.
Brandon Rogers
He did, he studied Marx in depth, borrowing methods from marxism is good
Dominic Lee
I guess the whole "National SOCIALIST" thing slipped by your mind huh?
Ayden Hall
exactly!
Jason Ross
today's right wing needs to do the same, aka borrowing leftist's methods, just like he did.
Jackson Thomas
...
Daniel Reyes
Nope, he said terrorism is fought with terrorism, read Mein Kampf and you are going to see it, cops just allowing the reds beat the shit out of the NSDAP or disrupt their meetings, compare the two is dumb, one is obviously the aggressor while the other is passive-aggressive
Camden Anderson
What is up with the endless stream of anti Hitler threads today? Who's raiding this shithole this time?
Matthew Foster
>What are Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
Jeremiah Cox
JIDF and leftypol as usual my dude.
Cooper Moore
>read Mein Kampf and you are going to see it
I have read it, and the majority of Germanic people reading this thread (of which you are not a member) seem to agree with me.
Henry Rogers
I don't know if they even succeeded to re-bluepill one of us in ten years of shilling. Fucking worthless faggots.
Gavin Martin
if anything ive become more fascist and pro Europe than ever before. I cant see myself ever taking the bluepill
Charles Morris
>"the majority of Germanic people reading this thread" >No kraut flag anywhere to be seen
>"of which you are not a member"
Sorry for the tangent, but I have 1/4 to 1/3 German blood, does that count?
Lucas Cruz
Well you couldnt even if you wanted to my dude, the ride never ends.
Justin Cruz
Most of you ar tinged with the blood of the natives: this is the reason that nazis found your peoples so easy to escape to - it already had a race of docile, easily submissable peasants which an aryan overlord could be master over.
(Even if that included a tiny nazi retrement home).
Jayden Torres
what part of brazil are you from ? Whats the other 2/3 of your blood?
Evan Nguyen
Still socialism. "State and race are one" is the same as "State and workers are one"
Jonathan Cox
You might give credability to a negro industrialist, a national socialist would not.
Jonathan Johnson
I am from the south, I am a weird mixture of Europeans races, looking at my ancestry I would say that the contributions are mostly in this order:
1)Portuguese 2)German 3)Italian 4)French 5)Other
Everyone from my fathers side are European migrants that came in the 19th or 20th century, and everyone on my mother's side is from the Azores(First Portuguese settlers), she claims there might be an african in my ancestry, making me 0% to 2% black. I can't say for sure since I never made any DNA test, and as result I'm never sure with what european country I should be identifying with
Thomas Mitchell
>Hitler was the SJW of his time Not really user
Matthew Richardson
HURRRR thepost
Jaxson Parker
' There are plenty of natives in India today., who likewise claim a lineage from their betters, that likewise try and champio the view that they are somehow "equal" to their colonial masters.
Your kind comes from the dirt of spain, to put it bluntly.
Michael Wright
That has nothing to do with socialism. State and race are one mean that they claim to share with all who are deserved. Just like "state and workers"
In the end it's socialism. Socialism is just the vehicle to leap towards dictatorship, whether through communism or national socialism. The end result is the same. Abused oppressed citizens under the heel of mass murderers.
Saddam Hussein was a member of the socialist Ba'ath Party.
Michael James
What about nationalizing ai/robotics/education? The caveat could be a an importance on relevant science/technology, maybe even make it a longer application process to pursue an arts degree. Thrust America into a technological age that we can't even comprehend. In the 1920s, people didn't even think about rockets, tiger tanks, or torpedo warfare.
Tyler Johnson
>succeeded >killed himself after losing
Brody Johnson
The nation IS the race, Hiter as previously declared, "What need have I to nationalize the industrialists when I can merely make them nationalistic".
Libertarians are utter filth: you would sacrifice the sacntity of the nation for the whim of some abstract notion of "liberty". In your would the nigger whom the jew promoted through is vast wealth would be master of you merely because he had the money to do so.
Cooper Russell
Exactly. Hitler knew the best form of defence is attack. Unlike cowardly conservatives who virtue signal so the dominant left will throw them a scrap, Hitler attacked the left using its own methods. And the superiority and truth of his views over theirs left them helpless.
Ian Martin
National socialism is far centrism. Really, it is... or maybe the left/right paradigm is for the most part bs?
Andrew Morgan
>cowardly conservatives
Hitler literally killed himself because he was too much of a coward to face what was coming.
Colton Taylor
>>killed himself You're not the full sweetie if you actually believe this
Charles King
He didnt want to be captured and made into a plaything for the Jews and the hysterical masses. Killing himself and having his body burnt deprived the Jews of that satisfaction.
Cooper Ramirez
Why is Hitler considered successful? Even as a nazi, why would you consider him a successful leader?
Michael White
How new are you? Hitler's 'body' -- conveniently burnt beyond recognition -- was DNA tested and found to be that of a woman. Af if it wasn't obvious anyway. He was allowed to make it to South America with half of his posse.
Blake Richardson
He went constanly forward from artschool to world domination.
All surrounded and supported by the german people, a country of dreamers.
Xavier Perez
>ran away from his homeland >killed himself
ok pick one, he's still a pussy coward
Asher Jenkins
...
Jonathan Foster
There's no going back once the first domino falls. That's why (((they're))) freaking out. (((Their))) only course of action now is to double down on what (((they've))) got.
Not to be complacent in eventual victory of course. We're working with the natural current and they're going against it, but we can't underestimate their ability to do so.
Benjamin Smith
He didn't get near world domination though. He offed himself and his country was divided in two and occupied. One half become a commie shithole for 50 years afterwards
Christian Long
>Why is Jesus considered successful? Even as a christian, why would you consider him a successful leader?
Christopher Wood
He was succesful initially. Took over a divided country, mass unemployment/starvation. Turned the country around, gave Germans their pride back. If he'd been assassinated in 1939 he'd of gone down as one of the greatest ever living Germans.
Kevin Roberts
...
Ryan Powell
Jesus left a religion behind that billions practice today faggot
Ryan Morgan
Until the economy collapsed from government debt
Luke Sanchez
Hitler escaping is a Jew meme pushed by literal Israelis. Hitler was a spent force and actually wanted death by that point. I guess you think Bormann, Goebbels all got away also? If not, why not?
Mason Bennett
>government >debt You mean, the private central bank that was run by a Rothschild agent? The one that Hitler took over?
Jonathan Morgan
/thread
Sebastian Evans
>DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/reddit
Jacob Kelly
It didnt though. Thats a Jew meme. GDP continued to rise inspite of the Jewish boycotts and then the war.
Matthew Wood
No i meam all the business that he was buying weapons from and would stop making shit for him if he didn't pay them back.
Henry Barnes
He was extremely close to world domination.
Jayden Lee
70 years after his death christianity was a small, persecuted sect that nevertheless was steadfast in their beliefs the truth can only be suppressed for so long
Jaxon Thompson
First you gotta purge the cancer on the nation, or you'll just infect the industries
Lucas Thompson
>As a rugged American individualist
Aaron White
How, how did he get close. Even if zhukov got the stupid virus and lost the war, the us would turn Germany into radioactive dust. Germany needed literal divine interference from those giant dudes Himmler believed in to win ww2
Adrian James
This. The only way they can stop it is by getting rid of the free internet.
Why would he not pay them back? He was against loans and ursury, in other words, buy only what you can: "We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none, but for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done or goods produced"
David Powell
Jesus existed in a world where even letters weren't an established sort of communication yet. If it existed today it would have ballooned through the internet at the very least. Not a good argument mehmet
The money didn't exist. Gov deficient was something like 80 percent of GDP rather than the usual 5 or so percent. He gave them literal monopoly money
Benjamin Long
>not posting the gif
Noah Anderson
t. jew
Jayden Thompson
>succeeded by borrowing methods of hte left >succeeded in being an authoritarian
Austin Parker
It took 8 months from American landings in Britain and the establishment of the western front until defeat and occupation. Imperial Germany did a million times better in a 3 front war, they're a much better nationalist role model
Brody Jenkins
Just a fun little reminder that Hitler froze the wages of the working class and did almost everything in his power to disempower them.
The middle/working classes saw a net loss in their standard of living under the third Reich. Fascism only benefits the rich, it allows them to point a gun at your head and force you to do whatever they want.
I used to be a fascist until I discovered this. As a tradesmen it is not in my best interests to support a dictatorship of the rich.
Jonathan Davis
>falling for the nuke jew Hiroshima/Nagasaki were firebombed. Germany/Russia didnt pursue the nuke programme because they knew it was, and still is, Jewish bullshit. Nukes only benefit Jewry, so a nation will never rise up again as they could be "nuked". Samson option a good example. The science makes zero sense and has never been explained.
Tyler Thomas
The means of persecuting dangerous groups have increased just as much. If the current state surveillance and propaganda organs had been around back in the day christianity wouldn't even exist.
Aiden Campbell
I've got nothing against that sentiment. I'll need to learn more about Imperial Germany, she seems pretty exceptional.
I just don't believe that negates the merit of Hitler or Nazi Germany.
Oliver Sanders
How did the country which produced harris churn out faggots like you?
Grayson Young
>Just a fun little reminder that Hitler froze the wages of the working class
My grandfaher was a member of that class, and he didn't have much complaint when Hitler came to power: in fact one of the most prominent things he mentuoned about the nazis was that doctors would come to school every six months to check everybody's teeth.
That's from the Horse's mouth.
John Wood
Ehhh fair enough
Lucas Green
>99% approval ratings ok noseberg
Landon Long
That's still socialism, chief. In the end all of the assets go to the state, what don't you get about that?
Being from England, what happened to your country? Nelson would be sickened. Losing to the French Globalists.
Cooper Hall
same thing with Mussolini, he was the former leader of the italian socialist party and giovani gentile his co author of the doctrine of fascism agrees in marxist literature except with the aspect of class struggle where they believe that it is between the socialist and the individualist. there is a reason why he calls it italian social republic. so socialism is the father of fascism. communism and fascism are both sides of the same coin that is authoritarianism.
Easton Powell
I love Hitler. Asking any Germans here if you could accept pic related as an Aryan?
Nolan Cook
>Hitler was a Leftist I believe some /leftypol/ fags came up with a strategy to constantly say that National Socialism is leftist.