The (((88))) Problem

19th century: Europe rules the world, white man ascendant, huge colonial empires, mostly peace and prosperity in Europe.
1870s-1945: Germany tries to become a great power. Various chimpouts. Two world wars.
After 1945: half of Europe controlled by Soviets, colonial empires gone, millions of white people dead, white nationalism linked in public mind with collectivist totalitarianism and angry shouting autists with weird hairstyles.
2017: neo-Nazis claim that you can't be pro-white without supporting "muh natsoc"

WHAT THE FUCK
>inb4 1000s of autistic natsocs rageraid this thread with edgy nazimemes and call me a kike one million times

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Basically, this has to be the way going forward

Stop throwing (((the left))) the 88fag bones it loves and craves. Stop doing their antiwhite work for them, stormies!

It's time white people built their space arks and sailed off into space to find the next planet full of primitive monkeys and bring them out of the depths.

White people are builders and they are meant to hand off their creations to others.

They are Prometheans.

Heil Hitler

wow many argument much BTFO 10/10 gr8 b8 m88

>mostly peace and prosperity in Europe
>19th century

Is this what they teach you in Ameripoorland?

GERMANY is mankinds worst enemy and problem

As an Anglo, say it with me.

14.
>Fuck 88

The germanic race will die at the hands of the eternal anglo.

Long live the true, perfect race. The lost tribe of Israel.

neo-nazis are just as stupid as anti-fascists.

And this is coming from someone that doesn't like niggers and doesn't trust jews.

Don't blame the reaction, blame the cause

OK, fine, that's a fair criticism. But the point still stands that powerful, stable European nations at the peak of their cultural florescence were a mainstay of the 19th century.

Never said this. I'm proud to be a German-American.

R-right this thread is anti-Germanic and pro-Jew somehow. R-right.

omg racist much?

Heil Hitler, faggot.

I obviously blame the media and the left for fueling neo-nazism, but I also blame neo-nazis because they always end up being useful idiots for the antiwhite establishment.

omg but that's racist n sheet

redpilling it is

Hitler betrayed the Party during the Night of the Long Knives.

Hitler raised Germany and the whole of Europa to new levels. Get fucked, faggot.

wow, the fringe of the fringe

Hitler did some good for Germany. How in TF can you say he did good for the whole of Europe? Makes no sense.

Kek. Jewish or not. It does not matter.

10 of the 12 lost tribes have been the most important, the most influential peoples in the last 1000 years. The Germans are not one of the 12.

Hence the chimp outs.

88 is a spirit animal of white race but theres no point in mentioning his name for no good reason. Jew tricks made it so what any mention of him will drag you down. You will not break this conditioning easily. No point in wasting energy fighting for 88 acceptance while your race is facing existential crisis.

You know when you use the echo out of place like this it really makes your (((Chosen))) ways shine through. Thanks for making it obvious.

this is insane

Most white people were "white nationalist" who ever lived, somehow Hitler forever defines our entire racial identity. This is what the media wants us to think, because it makes it easier to bury and destroy white people.

oh god what an idiot you are

Suggesting the notion of trying to separate rabid hatred of Jews and white nationalism through better action and words will literally get you banned from Sup Forums, at least on 8ch, so that alone tells you just how bad the problem is.

If I say that everyone on here should channel their energy into pro-white action instead of anti-semetic talk, what would your responses be?

The destruction of the Weimar Republic, bolstering Fascism throughout Europe, becoming an icon of opposition to ZOG for generations to come, and showing those generations that something can be done.

You're locked in a worldview of materialism and faggotry with your white nationalist shit. You also claim to be a "German-American" the most retarded possible thing you could've said. You're god damn German if it's your blood, drop the "America" shit.

Hitler deserves to be praised and no amount of "MUH GOOD OPTICS!" is going to bring the lemmings to Fascism.

\o SIEG HEIL, CVCKS

Is this what you really believe? You really think that Adolph Hitler is a God, right after he lost the war and traumatized Europe into the worst kinds of self-hatred? What kind of a God loses a war?

No. Hitler made some of the worst mistakes all because of his ego, failure to cooperate, failure to draw in potential allies, and initiated catastrophic losses to the German spirit.

>fringe of the fringe
Yah I realized National Socialism was not contrarian enough for me so I decided to spice it up a bit.

Jewish orgs like the ADL want white nationalism to stay in the nazibox, because it gives them money and power.

The antiwhite establishment needs some swastikas and nazi saluting idiots to justify its antiwhite reign of terror. Don't give them what they want.

I'm not pro-Weimar. And back then I probably would have voted for Hitler. But now is not then.

Millions of white people actually do harbor WN views, and we need to make it easier for them to unite with us on behalf of our race.

This.

The Hitlerites can't admit that he is not a God, he is not infallible. I'm not downplaying his great works, but he was a flawed man all the same.

Good. Don't be defined by your enemies, and privately call out any well meaning but uneducated (frankly) white nationalists who throw around Roman salutes and Swastikas. They're detrimental to the cause.

Adolf Hitler is an icon of strength and willpower. The war was lost because it was a numbers game and the Reich went down swinging, right to Berlin. The kikes traumatized Europe by waging a war against the European people because Fascism targeted the Semitic trash. Kill yourself, kike lover.

And what? Unless you plan on hanging politicians, shooting faggots, and killing kikes you're worthless and I don't care about you getting any support. The system needs a hammer to smash right through it. Anything else is a worthless half-measure.

>88
Fuck me

14 and not 88. Hitler was a fucking sperg who wanted to eliminate Slavs so that Merkel would have more room to import rapefugees.

You're factually correct and logically sound

>Inb4 anally ravaged naziaboo s

Have you done much reading on Fascism, my fellow (((jew hating nazi fascist)))? If you did, you'd realize that the language you just used isn't something Gentile would use. Change your flag.

((( )))
>Unless you plan on hanging politicians, shooting faggots, and killing kikes you're worthless and I don't care about you getting any support.
nice try kike

You want nothing more than for white people to be larpy embarrassing psychopaths. Pretty obvious.

"LET'S GO SLAUGHTER SOME SEMITES, MY FELLOW NAZI! 1488 AMIRITE YO?"

haha thanks

I wonder what his (((Geographic Location))) is..

BTW guys if you're reading this thread like it's an attack on Germans, please don't. I like Germans and Germany.

My best guess is that he's a white antifa trying hard to make us look evil or crazy, they do NOT want white nationalism to get out of the nazibox. They want to keep us in there, forever.

The 88 will always turn people away from the 14

However, we have imagery much more powerful than any Nazi could have dreamed of at our disposal. All we need to do is use it.

l m a o

I wonder who could be behind these posts?
>C-C-Come on my f-f-fellow magapedes!! T-t-these fascists are uh, uhm, CONTROLLED OPPOSITION! THEY'RE THE JEWS! ...N-Not that there is anything wrong with Jews...

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Also, if Hitler were alive today, he'd be a literal wewuzzer who thinks that Germanics are responsible for every historical achievement.

Any false flagging anti-white pretending to be one of us WILL BE 14/88 almost by definition.

Their goal is to make us look evil, so of course they will be the most stereotypical neo nazi piece of shit as possible. Nothing else makes any sense.

>this much damage control
We know you're not based, you're a false flagger or a larper.

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this

Britannia rules the waves!

>White Nationalist
>Calls anyone larper

lmaoing at your life, kike lovers get the rope too.

>guy who uses the fascist flag
>and said people who don't kill politicians are worthless
>not a larper
in what universe? oh right I'm responding to a leftwing false flagger.

Nice try but we see through it now.

hmmm, lot of anti nazi shit lately, the jews scared?

If you're not willing to kill zog puppets you're worthless. Thanks for proving my point, kike lover. The rope swings for you, faggot, enjoy your time on this world.

All I know is we get Millions $$$$ in free advertising by simply raising our hand in a roman salute.

Literally jewing the jews. Its great.

Hitler was no friend to Europe, that's for sure. He hated our friends in the East, thought the French and the British were genetically inferior and admired the warmongering nature of Islam - he even wished it was the dominant religion. He subjugated the Polish, the Czechs, the Danish and the Norwegians, the French the Greeks, Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians and the Russians. He believed in Germany and Germany alone. That's admirable for a German/Austrian, but why should the rest of us follow German white nationalism and not our own.

Reveal your flag.

Gas the Nazi larpers. Everything the alt-right could have been, has been ruined by these fags.

Even if you love Hitler, keep that shit to yourself, we're going after normies here.

Here you go. 100% European blood, all from the Brits and French with about 3 or so percent from the Balkans.

/thread

you're either mentally ill

or a leftwing falseflagger

It's cool to be this nationalistic, but stay away from organizing or from the public in general. Go and have many children, if you're capable. There are multiple ways to help your people. This movement should be pro-white, not anti-Jewish. You're the type of person that makes people sympathize with the left-wing reactions towards us. Jews aren't white, so by default, they're excluded. You have a book called Rules for Radicals defeated, but have you actually read Rules for Radicals?

You're just a faggot too scared to admit what he feels. These people deserve death.

Twas so gr8 I had to masterb8

this doesn't really prove anything, and there are a high concentration of far left young cunts in Canada, anyway

You're just trying to make nationalism look evil. We all see through you, though.

>that flag

(((((((((THE ETERNAL ANGLO))))))))

I have. Guess what? Someone like Rockwell would agree with my positions and the fact that I voice them. Agitation and violence are the only things that get through this. There is no talking. Read Siege.

You've already been exposed, kike. Keep trying, you'll fucking hang for your crimes one day.

Do the muslims who jihad turn off the "peaceful" muslims from the global conquest that is islam? No, not at all. If anything it shows them that they are following a true and noble cause. How amazing and powerful are your people that you have kinsmen willing to die and kill for you and your religion? Imo you don't have to be an esoteric Hitlerist, just don't counter signal and cuck out so damn much. The skinheads and Neo-Nazi you claim to hate will gladly and willing fight for our people. But you wouldn't do the same for them, in fact you sell them out every chance you get. "Muh Optics, Muh PR, Reee Swastikas."

>of course it's a leaf.

>Weimerica

Opinion discarded, your founding fathers are cancer.

Do you dispute what I said? Are you saying that the British are responsible for the subjugation, imprisonment and in many cases murder of white Europeans? Do you deny that the Germans invaded European nations for little and less reasons other than strategic gain or a sneering condescension for anyone other than the Germanic peoples?

>You've already been exposed, kike. Keep trying, you'll fucking hang for your crimes one day.
r-right

I've been ex... posed... somehow

10/10gr88b88m88

No 88cucking =/= pacifism, nigga

the decline of the colonial empires can be attributed to the fact that the soviets survived the war and got to continue pushing their propaganda in the minds of the post-colonial nations. Ironically many nationalists movements in the west like Qubec and Ireland were bloody marxists. The soviets exploited these divisions in order to weaken the west and for people to fall into the arms of communism

Hitler was immortalized and will forever be relevant in this discussion because:
1) WWII was an incrdible 'error in history', which
2) still defines the world we live in (and has to be corrected eventually)
3) the 3rd Reich was an awesome/unique creature and will remain kind of a rolemodel of freeing a nation from Jewish control (which is badly needed as you all know)

>Discards American opinions
>HURRRR ROCKWELL WOULD AGREE WITH ME

Trump needs to build two walls.

Rockwell would agree with everything I said prior. I absolutely hate your fucking state and your founding fathers. That's just my opinion though, McDonald warned me about your kind.

Confederates are aight.

This.

As a Germanic man, as much as I like the uniforms, the idealism, the aesthetics, etc we cannot afford to lose

>Confederates are aight.


You do care :)
Let's not fight anymore, white brother.

Always pro-white, never a Nazi!

Rockwell had a very favourably view of the constitution. he called it real freedom as opposed to the libertine version that people seem to be pushing for nowadays

If Sir John A. MacDonald was cool with the Confederates, I'm cool with the Confederates. No brother wars, traitors to the aryan people aren't my brother.

How would the antifa get to punch nazis if there weren't any nazis?

People might realize they are just punching anyone they disagree with, if there were no nazis.

I disagree. Being pro white alone will not be enough. We are fighting an all encompassing enemy. One that has subverted our nations and our people. Having the 14 without the 88 is not possible. Being just about the 14 means you will compromise with the enemy to get what you want. Being 88 means you will fight with all your heart and soul, because anything else insures the death of our people.

Yup. This.

I am a National Socialist and will never consider myself Alt Right or use the Alt Right as a medium to spread my beliefs covertly. I get it, you guys hate seeing people waving the swastika flag at your Alt Right rallies. That's fair. Even though it's kinda cringey to wave that (it's a German flag from the 30s and 40s, we need new ones), it's not much better to yell "Jews will not replace us" at your rally. The thing is, most of the people in the Alt Right (excluding Alt Lite like Rebel Media and Milo) are redpilled on the JQ. You're also ethnic nationalists. What is a liberal going to call someone who is both an antisemite and a white nationalist? A Nazi. Hell, Trump was "literally Hitler", and he's neither an antisemite or a white nationalist. These types of mass movements have been failing for decades. The only game changer for the Alt Right is the Internet. However, the collapse of the Alt Right will only continue as it grows. You already have tons of divisions in your movement. Without a set doctrine, a large swath of people can join. That's why the Alt Right is sometimes referred to as a spectrum of beliefs. A spectrum of beliefs will get your numbers, but not results. And there's a difference. You should require a strict set of rules and principles to allow people to join you. You'll attract less people, but those you do attract will be of much higher quality.

Hope you found that helpful. Hail victory.

Wow, it's another "14 without the 88" thread. How many do we have every day now, at least 5 a day? Listen up you JIDF mother fucker: 14 words are our creed, and Natsoc under Hitler was the ultimate expression of the 14 words in action. This is why kike arguments to "keep the 14, ditch the 88" are really just arguments to forget the history of struggle to achieve the 14 words. We don't have to wave swastikas or LARP in 3rd Reich uniforms to be Natsocs today, but if we forget the 88, the struggle of those who fell against the forces of ZOG, if we forget everything that they sacrificed, then we just wind up reinventing the wheel, ignoring the lessons of their experience, and defaming our own lineage. Anyone who says "denounce the 88" is trying to trick you into denouncing or cucking on the 14 -- every single time. The 14 is the 88, never compromise, never collaborate, never cuck.

you are right

i am a monarchist,and i want to restore the british empire and eventually reclaim canada australia and nz and hong kong and singapore

maybe the east coast of america if we get the chance but thats not definate

i dont want to worship hitler,he did nothing for my nation but set back white nationalism 100 years and give us all original sin for being white

fuck hitler

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My grandpa was pro-white and he was born before Hitler was even famous, he didn't have to become pro-Hitler to stay 14 wordified

makes no sense

wow shitty comic edit, much not correct

Wow, it's almost like people are mad that neo-nazis have been useful idiots of the antiwhite system for decades, and don't want to repeat those same mistakes. Maybe? Yea.

>"MUH JIDF"
pfffff

>How do you do, fellow (((white))) people?.png

I don't hate Hitler, but we need to get the fuck away from our racial identity being a little fringe Nazi cult.

For 50 years, our race has had its identity framed as "Nazi" and most white people have forgotten they have an identity. We need to help our people, and the neo nazi shit helps the left FUCK our people.

r-right

Jews totally want stormcucks to stop cucking. Not.

>19th century: mostly peace and prosperity in Europe.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars

>he didn't have to become pro-Hitler to stay 14 wordified
>wow shitty comic edit, much not correct
>>"MUH JIDF"
>pfffff
I believe that Germans had the right to remove Semitic colonists from Europe, and I will never say otherwise. Does this mean that I am "helping to brainwash white America into no longer supporting their people"? To denounce nazism is to denounce European resistance to foreign colonists.

If you're going to be pro-white, you're going to get called a Nazi. It's an occupational hazard. You cucking out and selling out your fellow white men will SURELY make white identity acceptable. Fuck off with this bullshit. You're either delusional or retarded.

I don't want Jews to be in powerful positions in European societies, either. What's your fucking point? We should have a principle of no group controlling any other. Jews aren't us.

But sperging out against Jews makes dumb normies sympathize with Jews. We need to explain these things carefully.

I think you can believe in National Socialism/Fascism without being a tattooed skinhead. Most people who call themselves Nazis fail to recognize that it's not just a belief that we need to hate Jews and preserve the white race, but a belief that requires the individual to contribute to their people by starting with themselves. They don't work out, they don't dress well, and they make no effort to quit their vices. Not to mention their manners. This is unacceptable. But not all of us are like that. You can't throw us all under the bus because of some stupid skinheads who barely know anything about the actual ideology.

>you're going to get called a Nazi
I don't care.

>selling out your fellow white men
no I'm not

I am just saying that stormfagging out is helping the antiwhite agenda. I don't owe some kind of special treatment to stormies. I'm not killing them or censoring them, I'm calling them out on their antiwhite bullshit.

>Strawmaning this hard

Come one Adam Rubinovsky

I can respect NS people who don't sperg out and attack anyone who criticizes them. Just look through this thread, the way most people who call themselves 'natsoc' online is a joke.

So, you're right, but the issue is these people.

This.

Plus if you're going to a protest, remember, fly your nations flag high and proud! It doesn't matter if your nation is a kike attack dog, like mine is. The point is to win over muh patriots and conservatives alike to our cause.

Define stormfagging out and we might have a conversation but your OP is unnecessarily hostile if you're wanting to have a conversation. I can't ever recall anyone on Sup Forums claiming you can't be pro-white without supporting National Socialism. Most of us started out as libertarians.

Your grandpa probably lived in a homogeneous white nation. He was doing what every citizen of a healthy nation does. America and a lot of Europe are sick. Harsh times call for harsh solutions. If you don't understand that just stick to alt right circles. National Socialists won't change their views on the 88 but when things get worse in the world I'm willing to bet that the majority of the alt right will flip their opinion. They will go to strength, they will not care if it's marching in the streets with Swastika arm bands and shouting Sieg Heil.

Controlled opposition. Just like the picture, white nationalism has to climb a mountain in the West. The (((88))) is a 200 pound weight on one leg. Nonwhites push it so hard because that is the only reason they are on this site.