>Stalin killed 60 million people! How? Since 1914, Russian Empire/USSR had: >2.5 million dead in WW1 >5-9 million dead in Russian Civil War and famines that followed it >900,000 to 2 million White emigres >7 million people dead during famine in 1932-1933 >26 million people dead during WW2 So that's 41-46 million deaths. Since obviously you can ascribe famine during 30's to Stalin and his government, that would mean Stalin was responsible for some 54 million deaths on top of this. So apparently since 1914 95-100 million people died in the general area of USSR. 1 to 1.5 million also died in famine in 1946-47. That region, including Poland and some other territories like Finland, had a population of around 170 million at the outset of WW1. Excluding Poland and Finland, that's roughly some 150 million people. Soviet population in 1959 was 209 million. There's also census in 1951 which showed 182 million, but let's exclude it cause it was made during Stalin's time.
So a region that had 150 million people, suffered some 90-100 million deaths in the span of 45 years, plus all the poverty and devastation of war and all other shit, and it grew to 209 million in 1959/ 182 million in 1951? How is this possible?
>stalin Why are Germans responsible for supposed mass murders carried out by people but soviets not responsible for stalin?
Carter Hill
I think you're onto something there. More generally, how come people haven't died out for millenia when everyone dies at around 70? Did Lizardmen invent a method to multiply humans?
Josiah Perry
I'm not and I think Stalin was a shitty person and communism was shit, but he couldn't have murdered some 50 million people. It's just impossible given the numbers.
Alexander Cruz
>Stalin was good man >Assad is my favorite muslim >Putin is a savior of the white race >Spencer is our leader pol in the nutshell
Luke Robinson
>6 million Jews died in the holocaust How? -- a more important question.
Lucas Foster
>Stalin was a good man Nope. He was a monster. Doesn't mean he killed 50 million people. More likely when you include famines, GULAG victims and deportations and other stuff, it's around 10 million, perhaps even 15 using high estimates.
Angel Garcia
>With all the poverty and devastation of war and all other shit, and it grew to 209million in 1959/182million in 1951?
I don't know, ask Africa how it's population continues to increase whilst it can't feed itself? The USSR had third world living conditions.
Carter Richardson
>pol in the nutshell Only if you are a stupid khokhol.
Isaiah Hill
in 1911 the russian population was 167 million .during 40 something years when every family had around 4 - 5 kids the population only increased by 20 or so percent . I can totaly see the number of people staling killed . Also the reason why the population in the communist period increased so much was because of the ban on contraceptives and general poverty .
Michael Ortiz
All they need to increase population is a safe cave/housing where the human feels vomfortable for mating and then bam children after children.
Jordan Perez
Someone explain to me how the different oblasts haven't seceded from Russian Federation?
Joseph Jackson
Oblast are mostly russian-majority regions, so they don't want to secede
Adam Morgan
Because the Russian Federation is a dictatorship. They would sooner annex more places that had """ethnic russian majorities""" in them.
Alexander Evans
>mfw Viro has a sizable Russian ethnic minority F.
David Ward
My grandpa had 12 direct siblings for example. 45 years are 2 generations.
Jayden Brown
>stalin killed several tens of millions of guys but hes a hero cause communism >China and mao killed over 100 million in the name of communism i will never understand how people justify this shit, the absolute worst genocides were under communism but people to this day still tote is and the best god damn thing since sliced bread.
Also I've never heard the 60 gorillion figure, only 30 million.
Parker Hall
There's basically no people or no money in the oblasts outside the European part of Russia. Siberia is barely populated while lands taken from Finland for example are miserably poor and filled with Russians too.
Luis Taylor
Since Hitler's numbers get inflated, people inflate stalin's with the same reasoning, so you either deflate both or accept stalin is worse
Wyatt Rogers
How come China or Japan has not conquered them? I mean only a 140 million people overall in a land that's eight of the earth's land.
Caleb Rogers
Pol Pot marching the entire capital out to the rice fields to work to death and killed multi millions.
Then you see some faggot wearing a Che Guevera shirt, Pali scarf and carrying Das Kapital. But that wasn't real Communism bro excuse is like saying Nazi Germany wasn't real National Socialism.
Mason Cox
>how is babby formed? >How population get bigger?
Are people unironically giving this faggot thread creedance? People fuck and have babies. Thats how populations grow, even during mass purges.
Just look at Apefrica you dumbfucks; >constant war >constant famine >yet population is set to be biggest in the world
Gabriel White
Wall Street shitted their pants when the Russian revolution happened and scared that it would happen in the USA too. Likewise for loyalists and big industrialists in Europe.
200 gorillion
muh gumunizm
Oliver Richardson
A lot of fucking babies just like anytime after a war, you fucking low IQ nigger
Henry Bailey
Interesting this will be my next thing to investigate after The Shoah
Colton Cruz
Yeah under opression, famine and poverty population grows great. You just need to pump out kids and they grow like weeds. And you're calling me an idiot? It's literally impossible to fit 50 million violent deaths on top of all other recorded deaths. Stalin's actions caused the death of some 10-15 million people, most of it from famines. I just made this thread because I see retards use 60 million number even though the guy (Robert Conquest) who made that estimate revised his count once he got access to Soviet archives.
Brandon Carter
>fucking babies
Cameron Thompson
Do you want a fucking nuclear war?
Carson Powell
Because Ethnic Russians are majority in most of these regions.
Joseph Turner
I meant back in the day.
Leo Gray
COMMUNISM KILLED 100 MILLIONS PEOPLE ( THAT MEANS STALIN, MAO, ETC..)
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF SHILL
Jackson Lee
Not even worth arguing with you.
Blake Gutierrez
Mao Zedong killed the 60 million. Stalin was always said to have killed 20ish.
Luis Foster
>How is this possible? Communists.
Wyatt Martin
Everyone thought Siberia was just a useless frozen wasteland, so no one bother to annex it. Russia then later expanded into Asia, while other Europeans were expanding West and conquering lands in Americas. No one really cared because they thought the Siberia was useless.
Luis Phillips
Annexed Teritories And Sending People To Siberia. Around 9 Million From Baltic States and 14 Million From Eastern Poland, 4 Million From Romania. So Yeah, That's Why..
Also If You See How Many People Were "Relocated" To The "Motherland" From Soviet Block Its Staggering.
Jaxon White
>26 million people dead during WW2
But Stalin said it was 7 million :^) I sure wonder where those extra 20 million were found after his death....
Julian Myers
>I sure wonder where those extra 20 million were found after his death
Someone probably look under his couch cushions, that's where I find most of my stuff.
Daniel Howard
Wtf i love georgians now
Nicholas Brooks
Maybe that's why? Most of them are Russian-majority or small and irrelevant to secede. Chechnya tried and literally got leveled.
William Martinez
Are you retarded? Second military in the world and a huge amount of nukes.
Carter Edwards
>west >free world
Connor Rivera
>Assad is my favorite muslim >Assad >Muslim
Evan Cooper
All the countries thinking like this over spawn of last 500 years have got their ass kicked eventually
Invading Russia is suicide mission
Jose Gray
A Federation is favorable to its subjects, i.e. they receive more than they contribute
Josiah Davis
back then people had 10 kids.
Isaiah Baker
This, but Ass-ad is not a muzzie tho
Ian Jackson
Because Josif the Stalin was very, very evil
Eli Thomas
.5 million dead in WW1 -9 million dead in Russian Civil War and famines that followed it ,000 to 2 million White emigres Tell me why you dumb fucktard don't count these as victims of Tsarism? They are result of its failed politics.
Daniel Gonzalez
Because Stalin killed ((his own)) and Hitler killed ((outsiders)), even though we are told that the Jews were 'just normal Germans' and not outsiders and Stalin got loads of non-Russians killed.
Nicholas Bell
When Russia started industrializing, the population grew pretty rapidly. In the early 1800s, it was something like 35 mil and by the early 1900s, it was something like 200 million. That means people were having a lot of kids per family. WW1 as well as 2 was a short lived war and by the time communism took over, people were encouraged to have kids again. By the time communism ended, the Russian population was back down to 150 mil. That means in less then a century, births did almost nothing to the loss of some 50 mil people.
Totally possible to kill that much. Mao killed 50 million in something like 4 years.
Hudson Brown
Why are you posting on Sup Forums? Your boys are collapsing on all fronts.
James Evans
No, they're kept quiet and replaced with pro-putin people (who obey him like dogs) if anything suspicious happens.
Jace Evans
You are overlooking the births during those 45 years. Add those to the total number of people available to be killed.