Anyone here thinking about entering a blue collar trade after being university educated?

I have a PhD in social science from a pretty good university by international standards. Since I gained my PhD I have spent a year in the public sector and I really don't like the idea of a lifetime career as a public servant giving how things are progressing socially and politically.

Blue collar work seems to me to be more rewarding on multiple levels. Being outdoors and participating in manual activity all day would help me sleep easier at night and maintain a healthy body. In contrast, white collar work turns you into a bugman with bad posture.

Office work is also shit because it is filled with plotting females who have been promoted beyond their intellectual capacity. And with lots of women comes leftwing politics and feminism. Work sites in construction, mining and vehicle repair are still largely male. And with this comes friendship from the teamwork necessary to working on construction sites and such.

Also, salaries are not that much better in the office unless you are willing to take on managerial responsibilities but you have to wait for opening to come up and play the game of snakes and ladders to progress up the chain in the office. Skilled tradesmen can earn a pretty good living because this sort of work cannot be outsourced and because fewer and fewer people in the google age know how to do basic handyman tasks.

While mankind devolves into bent-backed effeminate bugmen, manual labour will help you become a chiselled alpha and eventually be able to buy your own house. I think the film 'Gran Torino' excellently highlighted the masculinity and pride of manual labour.

What is holding us back? Is it misplaced pride in the social esteem of being a middleclass professional? Or intellectual vanity? Most of us need to be less intellectual because being intellectual just makes you depressed.

I've thought about some trade skills

I am almost done with my medical degree, planning on sticking with it, maybe specializing in some type of surgery, but no matter what happens I plan on retiring early to a farm and spending the rest of my life improving the planet

That's what I did after I got my bachelors. I may not stick with my current job, but any future careers I'm going for are also blue collar

If you plan on starting a business, a trade (I include coding as a trade) skill is better than a humanities degree. Hard science may force you to attach to large institutions for funding. If you're IQ is over 130, you should be coding, period. If you're under 115, consider traditional trades--you're high IQ will make you much more organized and business savy than the average professional in the industry. There's a good chance you can run circles around the competition.

Growing up, on of my friend's dad's was a senior private aviation mechanic. He was gone quite a bit, but he made bank--better than a pilot.

Medical is a trade skill in my opinion.

Union blue collar work is great. High wages, fringe benefits, pension plans and general low stress. Non union you get worked to the bone because you're competing with Mexicans who are happy working for $80 a day paid in cash. You can also make a lot of money opening your own shop and hiring Mexicans but that's a lot of work and stress these days.

Basically getting into a union for any trade in a major metro area is vastly superior to many white collar jobs.

You know a lot about office life, it is exactly like that I have pent many years in this situation.

It depends really, if you specialize (which I don't like) then you can earn a lot doing a desk job.

I suppose the same applies for blue collar.

Only thing I would add is you may find it difficult working with lower social class people if you are like an academic high flyer.

yup same here
dropped out of uni instead of graduating tho

>Union blue collar work is great.

>social science
So basically not science

Your entire post is nihilistic too. It's gross.

>Hehehe go open a shop and hire illegals!
>Hehehe go join a union and get paid to stand around 10 hours a day in leftist city leeching off of the tax payer!

I've got a BS in economics and just started as an apprentice door installer. In the first week I've made more money than any office job, work less hours (but harder), don't have a boss breathing down my neck and I get a good workout in the process. I'm struggling to find any downsides. I'm convinced that half of the reason people take low paying office jobs is just to have something professional to say when people ask what they do. All my college friends who are now a "Senior mangager of remarketing" are just bullshiting themselves in order to not say they're telemarketers.

Union blue collar working conditions are impeccable, meme all you want about the quality of the work but I guarantee you the average union guy takes wayyy more pride in his work than whatever Mexican you can find at home depot willing to work for ten an hour who claims he's a master carpenter, brick layer, and electrician all rolled into one.

Just have a backup plan because there is a downside. You will get to an age where your body will crumble under its own weight. Get into a management position, get a degree in your spare time, or start your own business before its too late. Or at the very least give birth to rich kids who will take care of you when your elbows don't bend anymore.

What do you mean nihilistic? There is no pride in competing with Mexican wage slaves, don't let yourself get memed on by non union propaganda.

You CAN make a lot of money hiring Mexican wage slaves, this isn't a value judgement it's merely a statement of fact.

>average union guy takes wayyy more pride in his work

Nah. They stand around doing jackshit whining for gibmedats and government projects. There's a reason unions are dying out anyways.

Yeah, masonry and carpentry have been ruined by illegal immigrants. But non-union electricians make their money just fine...

Mexican work quality is shite. It's irrelevant. Anyone contributing to that problem is a blight on the country

You won't like it, everyone you work with will be an idiot about 20 IQ points lower than you and will struggle to relate to them at best and grow to despise them at worst once you see their moronic primate behaviour and absolute intellectual shallowness

>Nah. They stand around doing jackshit whining for gibmedats and government projects.
You're swallowing anti union propaganda. Union guys get shit done. Abusive elements exist but they are not the rule.

You know what the rule is with non union shops? Being worked to the bone at a starvation wage and not even being entitled to breaks outside of a half hour lunch with Pablo. Have fun!

>everyone you work with will be an idiot about 20 IQ points lower

Only if you're in a union or have no specialized trade skills

>not considering health tourism but a farm.

You niggers are really dead investment.

I worked as a construction worker for a whole year before going to university. With all my savings I payed for most of it. Then when I started my first white collar job in an office I lost all my gains (all gyms closed by the time I left the office), my drive and my enthusiasm plus I earned half the salary for 3 more hours/day.

6 years later I went back to a blue collar job with a friend from my first blue collar job who built his own small business and it was heaven. Not only my boss was my friend but the freedom you get and the money you can earn has no comparision with being a big company slave.

Also he and all the people he hires are low-key redpilled.

There's a big salary cap on trade work.
The best option is to own your own business in that trade and then you'll be making bank

>Being worked to the bone at a starvation wage and not even being entitled to breaks outside of a half hour lunch with Pablo

Going to need a citation on that.

You know what's the rule with union shops?
Not having work for 6 months out of the year and wasting your time whining to the city to build a bridge or something because nobody wants to hire you. But don't worry, union tard. You'll get yours eventually. Just ask your buddies in the rust belt.

>Union guys get shit done
Yeah sure that's why every time I drive by you guys one is digging a ditch while the other 7 watch and smoke a cigarette doing nothing

He has a PH.D even in the best trades he won't be able to relate to his coworkers who will just yell FOR THE BOYZZZZZZZZZ 24/7 and talk about sports

>what is holding us back?

The fact that you are most likely a cuck and would not even stand a week of manual labor, which is reserved for pic related.

>(((social "science")))

Idk what you want me to say, working conditions for union guys are objectively superior, if you're making a living doing non union work congratulations but if you had a chance to join a union tommorow you would and you should and I sincerely hope you one day do end up in one.

Chippy here and always doing it for the boyz u dog cunt

having to do menial labour is not a sign of manliness, just that you are too dumb to do anything else

it's ok if you're young and healthy but all the guys i know who have been doing this for 30 years and have ruined their bodies hate their life with the exception of a few insanely enthusiastic workers who live to work

also get ready to deal with literal fucking brainlets that stop for a fag for every 3 bricks they lay.

From university, I went into the Army. After retirement (early medical), I became a training support contractor. I do range design to duplicate tactical scenarios from Iraq, Afghanistan, or future hypotheticals, figure out how to build them to budget and to Army regulation, then help build them. Occasional meetings, a lot of dirty days.

I actually love my job. Good outgrowth of my Army years.

also harsh reality
every single person that finds out you have a phd in social sciences will think you are a complete nonce
just saying, you have been warned

Go for it and if you have the time it's always useful to do an engineering career or a technician/bachelor title while you are at it that is related to the trade you are doing. It could save you if your body gets rekt or once you get old.
Trades are redpilled but are no joke.

I did manual labour when I was 14 - 18. Trades are full of plebs, the type of guys that are completely satisfied by going to work and then to the pub. Everyday.

This cunt gets it, never dog your mates.

I do HVACR/R for a living, I went to a trade school clost to two years ago.

I only owe about 6000 in student loans, I make a decent 22hr and have a steady 40-50hr weeks.

How old are you OP, If you are under 38 go for it.

The reason I say under 38 is because there is so much hands on learning to be done in the trades, for the first 3-5yrs you are going to be bottom of the tottom pole.

Schooling only gives you the lingo and an idea of what is going on in the trades, the real learning happens in the field.

Dont expect to get rich right off the bat, I started commercial HVAC/R at 19hr right out of school and worked my way to 22hr in close to two years.

There are guys I work with that make 40+hr and get plenty of overtime, they are makeing 125000+yr being bluecollar workers.

The younger the better, 20's is prime to get in.

Good luck OP

I wouldn't say that, you have to get involved sure but the academic work involved, both in studying and working, disqualify it from being a trade skill IMO.

Dude I'm in my early 20s and all I want in life is to be able to relax. I can never remember a time where I didn't have anything to do. I'm tired bro, I am so tired of everything. My dream is to just have a chilled out life, which you can't do as a doctor.

based moor

>a few insanely enthusiastic workers who live to work

I hate those fuckers.

Australia is an unhappy place.

Pic very related, refrigerant swap on commercial RTU. Also condensor fan motor change out.

If you try coming to my line of work with a low IQ, you will be a dead man.

470v 40amp, Refrigerant, Oxy/Acytelyne, motors that will rip your hands off, heights that will kill you.

Not all tradesman are dummys.

thanks

>PhD in social science
Isn't that a barista apprenticeship?

if you've got an IQ of 130 working with someone who's 110 (which is higher than avg IQ) can be tiresome.
but it's all about personality. I have no problem with "low" IQ people really. I'm not going to discuss complex shit with them - but I still can talk about hunting, cars and shit and enjoy the time.

An electrical contractor near tried to unionize a long time ago and the first thing the union did was try to make him fire all of the guys that had been working for him for years in order to get their guys jobs with him.

>Social Science

AHAHHAHA. Was your graduate thesis on the correlation between black men and their propensity for being the bull in a cuckold relationship?

Very true, but word of advice...Keep politics, religion, and in depth moral based conversations out of the work place.

It never ends well, I only talk about work and strive to pick up gems from the seasoned technicians.

Construction management is a really good profession. It's a cross between blue/white collar. You're blue collar but you only get dirty if you want to. It also pays very well, especially if there's overtime.

young user here, what do you think about the legal career?

the blue collar jobs are interesting and I had them in mind but I always believed that a job like this would not express the best of me, I like reading about politics understand it and use it one day

I currently have a very small group and not so dedicated to National Socialism but we are all there contributing

its laws redpilled? , I dont care about money, I am only interested in earning enough to form a large family in a 2 story house

I have a family member that is a 10yr project manager for a large industrial contractor, he makes 200,000yr.

He basically keeps all the sub-contactors...plumbers, carpenters, hvac guys on track and inline.

In other words, he does what a daycare worker does but with construction workers.

It turned him into a mean/hard fucker

Militant Unionism can be fun.

When I was up north, I went to art school (yep) and became a master potter. I made good money from my art. Later in life, I got interested in computers and got certified (just tech stuff but I liked it). I came down south for family reasons and temp worked for contractors (demo, carpentry, etc.). It is a good hands on learning experience. Now I do all three, and I plan to build my own house. Gaining multiple skills is beneficial if you have the focus.

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I got my degree in mechanical engineering, and I currently supervise a machine shop full of blue collar guys. I'm a very hands on person, and I very rarely spend time in my office aside from end of shift reporting and approving pay.
Blue collar professionals can be a rough crowd, but they say things how they see it and there's no office drama. May not retire a billionaire, but I live comfortably and the job is rewarding.