Why are you worst than China?

Why are the Chinese so much better national socialists than the LARPing nazi fags in the USA?

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China is lame as fuck.

Let them. I'd like to see how it goes so we can laugh

Except their economy is winning by burning the USA down

>China to ban the sale of the best, most luxurious cars to everyone that's not wealthy or politically connected.

Why do you cheer on the shrinking liberties of a billion east asians, Ancap?

China is basically Chinese NatSoc at this point. It's no wonder they are winning in almost every regard.

I wish US was run like China, but with more freedom.

>things that will never happen

>to ban

>maybe in another 50 years, depending on how things go.

That only works in an economy where there are two classes. Wealthy and the Slaves.

Their economy depends entirely on the USA.

>I wish US was run like China, but with more freedom.

You can't have both.

>everyone rides a bike
>nobody can afford a car
>"look guys we're banning fossil fuels"

>implying this won't end badly like most of China's policies

It's almost like you two were made for each other.

We made them our industrial slaves by voting in greenshit dems too many times.

It's called electric cars, idiot. It's a new thing apparently you haven't heard of yet. Living in your mom's basement will do that.

Right, but we can't destroy them without destroying ourselves.

And now you are the slaves for their crappy products and you owe them $1 Trillion you brain-dead idiot.

I mean more freedom than China has now, not more than we currently have in the US. China restricts the type of mass media which is allowed into their country, I think that's a good idea, but they shouldn't stop free speech on a person to person level.

China does so well because they spend their state money on research and infrastructure. We spend it on promoting single mothers and gimmedats.

>it's cars that cost more money than regular gasoline based cars
think before you post please

Yup... they are more economical, and central planning allows socialists to enforce the good against the will of the people.

>missing the point this hard
if nobody owns or drives a car in China, is it really a big deal if they ban fossil fuel cars? Fucking hell, use your brain

Electric vehicles->self-driving cars->heavy licensing/discouragement of cars for "regular people"->ban of cars for "regular people"->the worst kind of fusion of capitalism and communism where you will only be able to get into "shared cars" that track your every move and word, similar to Uber or those shared smartphone bicycles in European cities

How do so few people see this? You'll only be able to get a car license if you're a "professional moving company" or some shit like that, or you live outside of the self-driving infrastructure, everyone else will just have their autonomy taken away (unless they're rich of course).

On the contrry, China is everything that a white nation should strive for. Full on national capitaism, stamping down hard on social liberal bullshit, and hardcore nationalism.

Most people should be tracked. Most people can't be trusted.

Why are so many communist women posting here today?

That's inevitable at this point regardless of what we do.

>I mean more freedom than China has now
Then you would not get the same results at all. China is china only because they lack complete individual autonomy. They have no future either, especially since they're breeding indestructible forms of pneumonia.

Second part meant for

they can't keep getting away with it
youtube.com/watch?v=-trD63iNlQE

china has less drivers than the US despite being the most populous country, not many people drive.

They are doing this to undercut money going towards gasoline.

If they remove 80% of the dependence of gas. They win.

How gives a shit? Driving is a huge waste of productivity.

Good point. this won't effect the literal billions of mopeds and trucks.

keep telling yourself that
only 17% of their exports go to your contry
The biggest economy on earth, and probably a future superpower are hardocore pushing for solar energy and will now ban fossil fuel cars, instead of using the easy way; that tells you something

*Who

And an oppressive authoritarian Commie regime that puts out that kind of stupid propaganda you fell for. There's a reason millions of Chinese are fleeing that country. Its fucking shit.

How can you be so fucking stupid?

>only 17% of their exports go to your contry
>lose 17% of the economy
>be totally fine

Not how it works, spic. Get ready to put those dreamers to work in your airplane parts factories.

But it's still the second largest market for cars. There's still 300 million cars in China.

Someone within Chinese bureaucracy have just received a HUUUUUUUGE bribery from Tesla

by 2020 two hundred million chinese would have entered the middle class
If I were chinese I would give no fucks about the traitors... and in fact I would use them as a infiltratory weapon against others

Also:
>solar energy meme

Why would you want a car anyway ? Seems a waste of time and money.
I am 38 and don't even have a driving license.
Never needed it in London or Singapore

And they will stay there for at least another 20 years. it says "to ban" not "has banned"

tic toc tic toc

you either go to war with them
or china will rule this century and the next one

So, how long until the price of batteries skyrocket like that of oil?

Not every country has concrete barriers every 10 feet.

No, they're going to die of plague and that will be that.

>only electric cars in china
gonna be really hard to run over people and kill them when your car's engine might as well be powered by hamsters on wheels.

>800 hp (hamster power)

I don't even think there are billions of mopeds and trucks, at least not ones owned by private individuals. The highest aspiration for most people in China is to own one of pic related, a flying pigeon bike. It costs about 2 months salary, and is the most expensive physical asset most Chinese will ever own.

The very rich own mopeds, the workers drive trucks (that are owned by their respective companies). The very notion of private (combustion) vehicle ownership in China is laughable for anyone besides the super-rich.

This is why it's easier for them to "take away fossil fuels", much easier than in America where every family owns 2+ cars

>more freedom
tell us what freedom you want? the freedom to bring 1 billion shitskins into china? the freedom for feminist to control society? the freedom to overthrow the government and make a (((democracy)))? the freedom to promote chinese genocide?

lmao what thefuck freedumbs do you want exactly? when america is collapsing and you're getting killed by shitskins rioting then you'll think maybe (((freedom))) wasn't always the best thing possible.

also,
>freedom
yeah like the freedom of twitter, google, and the government to censor anything pro-white and promote white genocide with immigrants

Not true. We rely on foreign resources solely for the benefit of controlling the world. We have everything we need here. If we didn't care about that anymore and wanted to wreck China, we'd go through a depression for a while but China would collapse completely. Of course, the rest of the world would enter a neo-imperial chaos as well.

>be chin.rar
>ban fossil fuel car
>no regs
>electric only technically not green but do it anyway
>all explode and arc weld to guard rails

I give fossil fuel cars 10 years before they become irrelevant. Improved batteries will make them irrelevant.

I'm also excited for this. Chinese cell batteries explode all the time, just imagine a Chinese car battery

>200 hamsters per tire
thats a shitload of power

Lithium is filthy. The mining residue is highly toxic.

Fits China, perfectly

why don't you go to china and find out god damn child

They barely use fossil fuel cars already you fat moron [Mexico is the no. 1 fattest country in the world.]

The west is so fucked.

youtube.com/watch?v=QexL6F-W4Ss

Cheaply made Chinese batteries explode all the time. Most of the worlds batteries are made in China either way, along with 15% of the world's car batteries and 6 times that in the future.

Apparently they are just burying them in the ground.

dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3524655/Striking-pictures-China-s-enormous-motorbike-graveyard-thousands-vehicles-abandoned-following-strict-ban.html

You do realize that the best tesla batteries hold an equivalent amount of energy to less than three gallons of gasoline? You really expect us to make up that difference in just 10 years?

Undoubtedly, China's massive, majority share of Lithium, worldwide, plays a seminal role in this new policy. Lithium mining by-product is highly toxic.

South America has the world's majority of Lithium.

But less of that energy is lost to heat and other factors, which is more than 200 miles.

>what could possibly go wrong? we have plenty of rivers

*which is why the range is more than 200 miles

How retarded do you have to be to believe Chink propaganda?

I need to get my Passport. I'm going to Thailand next fall and plan to make a trip to northern China to find a bride.

Maybe I underestimated the amount of mopeds... Regardless, that's a quintessentially Chinese way of disposing them

Enjoy your goblin kids.

>But less of that energy is lost to heat and other factors, which is more than 200 miles.

If you ignore the losses from transmitting the energy to the house where the car is charged, yeah.

You are wrong. The tesla s would need a 5-6 gallon tank to get it moved the same range. Batteries are currently following Moore's law, so yes. It is going to more than cover that range. Anything else?

Another nail in the coffin for the petrodollar

>Moore's law

Is not a law and it only applies to computer chips, and it's already dead because electrons and heat have size restrictions.

You're still ignoring the tremendous losses in changing Coal into Tesla Electricity.

web.archive.org/web/20170616221414/https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/moores-law-and-battery-technology-no-dice/

Batteries do not follow Moore's law

33kwh in a gallon of gas. tesla batteries are 100kwh.

I know you're too retarded to listen, being ancap and all. This is for the benefit of others.

Moore's law is a retarded techno-utopia idea disproved multiple times. Its pretty much as useless as the term "post-scarcity". Its just jargon for the CIA to pretend spying on you is part of mankind's transcendence.

From the article:
>There is no Moore’s Law for batteries. The reason there is a Moore’s Law for computer processors is that electrons are small and they do not take up space on a chip. Chip performance is limited by the lithography technology used to fabricate the chips; as lithography improves ever smaller features can be made on processors. Batteries are not like this. Ions, which transfer charge in batteries are large, and they take up space, as do anodes, cathodes, and electrolytes. A D-cell battery stores more energy than an AA-cell. Potentials in a battery are dictated by the relevant chemical reactions, thus limiting eventual battery performance. Significant improvement in battery capacity can only be made by changing to a different chemistry.

Because that's a billion people who'll have diminishing access to combustion engine vehicles, reducing worldwide demand for oil, fucking both the US and the Saudis at the same time. It's like flipping one coin and getting two heads. It's a magical time.

Batteries are currently doubling in capacity/$ or capacity/volume every 18 months. It's been doing this for 10 years.

Moore's law is a convenient equivocation.

Kind of off topic but what if we put solar panels on cars so they can charge up while they're parked?

No, they aren't. Stop lying and read the responses to your post

Blah blah blah, 18 month cycle, blah blah

Yep, you're right.

Chile leads China. China's Lithium production hasn't fully ramped-up, as yet. But, their reserves are an estimated 350 million tons. Chile's is double that number.

Tesla is offering that now on their cars. It takes forever to charge, but it's free energy, so why not.

Fortunately, we are moving away from lithium.

>blah blah blah im too fucking stupid to even read
shit, good argument, wasn't expecting that. You win this round, ancap

>Batteries are currently doubling in capacity/$ or capacity/volume every 18 months. It's been doing this for 10 years.

Every 18 months you say?

>Tesla Roadster
>released in 2008
>53 kWh battery

>Tesla Model S Sedan
>released in 2012
>100kwh max

>Tesla Model 3
>Not yet released
>75kwh battery

8 years - capacity increase of less than half.

Please provide your /r/futurology source, i could use a good laugh.

>free energy
Spotted the neo-commie tech tard. Do you play the banjo at tesla coil free energy conferences? It isn't free energy, you're paying for the solar panels and they're shitty so you're paying more than what they're worth.

>free energy,

No, sweetie, it takes a lot of energy to make the panels. Depending on how stringent you are, it typically takes more energy than the panel will output in its lifetime.

Good goy, everything is fine, the economy will live forever.

Do you realise how many cars there are in china?

I dont think you do

>Spotted the neo-commie
anything that has anarchy in it is a commie scum
anarchism is basically communism governed by constantly triggered omegas

62 million registered motor vehicles at last count. The US has a fraction of the people and 254 million registered vehicles. How many people are there in China? Why are Swedes always arrogant with literally nothing to show for it?

not a lot

do you realize that 99% of china lives in concentration camps in baracks, not being allowed to own anything??

ohh i forgot.. you are a swedish cuck.
never mind

To drive commodity prices for things like copper through the roof. Knowing a commodity will rise in price makes mining contracts for that commodity more valuable.

There aren't enough rare earth elements around to make all these cars. It's all Muskonomics - hype generates investors generates ever evolving plans that produce nothing valuable over time.

Somewhat agree, but I was more getting at the entire tech industry being a huge bubble driven by a retarded neo-commie ideology perpetuated by the CIA so that people wholeheartedly support their own panopticon enslavement as some kind of messianic transcendence.

And just like that, the ANCAP has fled.

>It's all Muskonomics - hype generates investors generates ever evolving plans that produce nothing valuable over time.

aka venture capitalism.

Every thread here is "why are tea kettles and knitted socks so much better than you? Defend this now."

>62 million registered motor vehicles at last count.
More like 170

Nothing cool about it though.
No football. No hockey. No race cars.
Shitty culture in general, just lame.
And they eat bugs.

I'm ok with that.