Does anyone care about what happened to Prussia?
Does anyone care about what happened to Prussia?
nope
its the equivalent of mexico taking Texas deporting all Americans and destroying american culture replacing it with Mexican culture
no, germans had no place there in the first place
they had been there for hundreds of years
and soon arabs and pakis will have been in europe for hundreds of years, doesn't mean they belong
so who belonged there then?
>american culture
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
I got its flag
my understanding is that germany handed over prussia instead of having to pay huge amounts of war repatriations in 1953.
>invade other people's land
>squat there for years
Same thing russians are doing, so they can't complain, can they?
Tbh when Putin dies and Russia falls apart again Kaliningrad will probably just peacefully secede and maybe even join the EU as "Prussia" expect if will be primarily Russian and not nearly as badass.
no it was annex by Russia after WW2
its not even Prussia anymore because all the Prussians were deported everyone there is Russian
Who was even there before them? Some Baltic tribes? Germans brought civilization and order to the region. The Russians used it as a military base to control the iron curtain.
The Germans brought civilization and prosperity, The Russians turned it into a military base surrounded by loyal peasants.. There is a difference.
there were those who left, only to stay
and there were those who remained, only to leave.
If it joined the EU all those Prussians would probably return because Schengen.
is this topic talked about much in germany
Kaliningrad is proof that Russia cannot colonize to save its life. The annexations from Japan (Kuril Islands) also prove the same thing. Russia has the reverse midas touch, everything they touch turns into poverty.
my understanding is that the Prussians adapted into other cultures such as Poland and Germany so the idea of being Prussian doesn't even exist anymore
I don't think so, it is considered a Nazi thing to talk about their I believe..
most germans don't even know königsberg. this is all you need to know.
they know the dish königsberger klopse, and they hear königsberg occasionally in history and ethic lessons.
gerry can get fucked
That was only the eastern part of Prussia.
Prussia existed after WW2 as the German Democratic Republic(aka East Germany).
When the GDR was absorbed into the Federal Republic of Germany, the FRG made no provision to continue Prussia.
that's a shame because it was basically Prussia which later evolved into the unified German state
checked. Also Perhaps there can be a revival?
i thought east Prussia was given to Poland after ww2
And you wonder why the east euro states run as far away as possible from the russkies while dumbazz frenchies and germs idolize Russia as "based"
No they wouldn't. And they didn't. Those that care are too old, they are there on vacations, but are slowly dying out. Their kids don't care.
Most died and left. Some remained, but they are almost nonexistent.
Those that stayed mingled with ukrainians, as they both despised the polish. To this day eastern poland is full with ukrainians, who were relocated by force, and they do not like poles.
Yeah, the Old Prussians really didn't deserve it. Fucking G*rmans
wow Russia really fucked with eastern Europe
>when achmed gets jealous of murica
Blame nazis and the allies
>After the appointment of Hitler as the new chancellor, the Nazis used the absence of Franz von Papen as an opportunity to appoint Hermann Göring federal commissioner for the Prussian ministry of the interior. The Reichstag election of 5 March 1933 strengthened the position of the Nazi Party, although they did not achieve an absolute majority.[38]
>In the centralised state created by the Nazis in the "Law on the Reconstruction of the Reich" ("Gesetz über den Neuaufbau des Reichs", 30 January 1934) and the "Law on Reich Governors" ("Reichsstatthaltergesetz", 30 January 1935) the states were dissolved, in fact if not in law. The federal state governments were now controlled by governors for the Reich who were appointed by the chancellor. Parallel to that, the organisation of the party into districts (Gaue) gained increasing importance, as the official in charge of a Gau (the head of which was called a Gauleiter) was again appointed by the chancellor who was at the same time chief of the Nazi Party.
>In Prussia, this centralistic policy went even further. From 1934 almost all ministries were merged and only a few departments were able to maintain their independence.
>As provided for in the "Greater Hamburg Act" ("Groß-Hamburg-Gesetz"), certain exchanges of territory took place. Prussia was extended on 1 April 1937, for instance, by the incorporation of the Free and Hanseatic City of Lübeck.
>The Prussian lands transferred to Poland after the Treaty of Versailles were re-annexed during World War II. However, most of this territory was not reintegrated back into Prussia but assigned to separate Gaue of Danzig-West Prussia and Wartheland.
>As part of their war aims the Western allies sought the abolition of Prussia. Stalin was initially content to retain the name, Russia having a different historical view of its neighbour and sometime former ally.
>given
annexed and locals genocided and expelled.
until the 70s the cdu (merkel's party) was campaiging with a map of germany with eastern prussia.
yes but my understanding is the annexation was supported by the allied powers because of the 1953 agreement over repatriations
you always hear about the genocides in Africa caused by Europeans but no one even mentions a genocide which wiped out an entire civilisation in Europe
Fuck off you ancap nigger faggot. Every post you ever make on Sup Forums is retarded as fuck. So autistic.
we are in germany. that's why germany thrived after world war 2, while you and the russians suffer from the prussian curse.
yeah, and how unexpected.
You are talking as if Prussia and Germany are 2 different entities. They are not.
i'm talking about Prussia as German but still having its own history and culture much like Bavaria and Austria
Exactly. Dismembering Prussia was the point of world war one and two.
Got to get those evil proddies where they live.
Texas, you are next.
It's kinda funny. Because i can't tell you anything that is really specific for eastern prussia. Food is very slavic, architecture was very generic for its time (timber frame). though brick structure might be specific.
Being Prussian is more a mindset, being dutiful, altruistic. Believing in your community.
Shame it seems to be gone forever then
You must know that Germany started WW2, destroy whole Poland, and lots of Russia.
Germany started war, and lost war.
Germany hade to give up it land for many nations to compensation what it have done.
yes but that doesn't justify destroying all of the Prussian people. the soviets could of easily just created another puppet state of Prussia like east Germany
Its still Prussia, just with 1 less P
Germany killed millions Russian civilians WW2, so stop complaining.
You wanna know, what is a real shame? The implications, that the world was divided by two ideologies, who both give not a flying fuck about their people.
All of Sup Forums's bitching boils down to the fact, that prussian values were crushed by 2 world wars. Some have realized, that being self-serving cunts will fuck you up eventually. And this is where we are right now.
That's what Poland did in 1525, Russians were just learning on mistakes.
that doesn't mean it isn't regrettable that Prussia is gone. especially when you think of the great figures from Prussia like Frederick the great
Kaliningrad is full of Russian tanks and missiles to invade Europe with. Russians want it badly because they are very very evil.
>destroying all of the Prussian people
They were just deported, not genocided.
no
Does anyone care about what happened to Babylon?
I am Polish.
I care a lot.
Every year when I visit my town I go to a secluded meadow where ruins of old Prussian statues(including Bismarck) are scattered in the grass together with thrash.
Dogs piss on them and I drink a salute to the complete eradication of a country that thought it could destroy Poland.
You are a brainwashed moron.
Who declared war again?
>you always hear about the genocides in Africa caused by Europeans but no one even mentions a genocide which wiped out an entire civilisation in Europe
Prussia wasn't a civilization. It was an abomination whose primarily purpose was to wage wars and exterminate Europeans.
there's a distinct lack of redpilling and infographics about the genocide of Prussia. something must be done.
>yes but that doesn't justify destroying all of the Prussian people.
Prussians were exterminated by Germans.
Germans in Prussia were moved to Germany proper.
>there's a distinct lack of redpilling and infographics about the genocide of Prussia. something must be done.
Memory of Prussians being exterminated by German knights is quite alive in Poland.
>The Germans brought civilization and prosperity
They brought death to people living there.
ALSO
Prussia was Russian before for a decade in 18th century
No, I don't care at all. I really like German history, they were really advanced European power in WW1 and I'm sure that place was nice for German people until end of WW2. It's nice that Germany was a Lithuanian neighbour and all. But let's not forget they started the war that lost them Prussia.
If you start a war and lose land to the enemy it is of no help to whine about lost lands.
Prussian people already got assimilated/ genocided by the teutonic order and the germanic kingdom of prussia. There's no true people of prussia now that the old prussians and their language are culturally extinct.
Truth hurts, right?
Fucking Russian faggot shit!
What the fuck. Do you even believe that?
7 million germans were displaced from east germany. Only 3 million arrived in newGermany.
That's 3 700 000 more dead germans than jews killed in the holocoast. And I'm not even couting the 3 milion german men/soldiers who got sent to the gulags to die after the war.
They brought Christianity, and you joined them in their quest kielbasa nigger.
These were the old prussians, or pruzzen. Prussians were those that came after.
>7 million germans were displaced from east germany. Only 3 million arrived in newGermany.
en.wikipedia.org
n 2000 the German historian Rüdiger Overmans published a study of German military casualties, his research project did not investigate civilian expulsion deaths.[216] In 1994, Overmans provided a critical analysis of the previous studies by German government which he believes are unreliable. Overmans maintains that the studies of expulsion deaths by the German government lack adequate support, he maintains that there are more arguments for the lower figures than for the higher figures. ("Letzlich sprechen also mehr Argumente für die niedrigerte als für die höhere Zahl.")[190]
He found the 1965 figures of the Search Service to be unreliable because they include non-Germans; the figures according to Overmans include military deaths; the numbers of surviving people, natural deaths and births after the war in Eastern Europe are unreliable because the Communist governments in Eastern Europe did not extend full cooperation to West German efforts to trace people in Eastern Europe; the reports given by eyewitnesses surveyed are not reliable in all cases. In particular, Overmans maintains that the figure of 1.9 million missing people was based on incomplete information and is unreliable.[218] Overmans found the 1958 demographic study to be unreliable because it inflated the figures of ethnic Germans deaths by including missing people of doubtful German ethnic identity who survived the war in Eastern Europe; the figures of military deaths is understated; the numbers of surviving people, natural deaths and births after the war in Eastern Europe are unreliable because the Communist governments in Eastern Europe did not extend full cooperation to West German efforts to trace people in Eastern Europe.[190]