How can someone be an atheist and still call himself a logical humam being? In order for someone to be an atheist, he actually has to believe that not only DNA can form from its precuorsors randomly( no expeirament came close to making all of its precuorsors at once let alone form DNA itself), but also it formed with enough information( genes) that code for protins necessary for life and replication. AND not only that but the proteins that decode the DNA and translate it into proteins must have formed at the same time in order for the whole system to function. DNA cant functions without proteins that translate it and proteins alone cannot replicate themselves and need DNA. They both need to be present at the same time. How can someone actually believe this and still call themselves rational.
How can someone be an atheist and still call himself a logical humam being? In order for someone to be an atheist...
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Reason can only points out to our complete ignorance of our origins, our cosmic workings, and the broader idea of why there is a reality and how does existence sustains itself. We have no clue at all, and pinning the discussion to God/NoGod is just missing the point.
None of your points give any real reason to believe in (a) god.
>he doesn't know about the RNA World hypothesis
educate yourself
>WE WUZ GODS
great argument ankhet
No one has claimed life came into existence "randomly". Where have you learned your biology at the mosque or something?
Wow, it's almost like there was a less complex structure that could carry information that could format proteins to format life. Something that could be found in the most simple of organisms today. Something that we find multiple parts of in our genome from known viruses. Something...... What could it be?
Oh, that's right, RNA.
Pay more attention in biology class.
>i don't understand therefore it isn't real and god has to exist
Do you also think the earth is flat?
user will need more than, and I quote " AND not only that but the proteins that decode the DNA and translate it into proteins must have formed at the same time". user obviously doesn't understand any of the prion disorders let alone how they actually function.
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Since you idiots think that you'll physically go to the afterlife, why the hell would anybody want to have their brain dug out through the nose, and placed into a jar?
The RNA world theory is no solution to this problem. You can easily look it up if you want to.
this is not a dupicate reply
it's an image dump
God of the Gaps is a term coined by a christian who opposed the idea, saying people shouldn't use it because an actual omniscient being would have things run on autopilot rather than fill holes in logic himself.
I know about mad cow disease and how contact with prions cant change normal proteins into disease causing ones. But how does that relate to abiogenesis?
he never rests
>ITT: Vote for me because I am not the other candidate
No idiot we are obviously designd. Life as we know it cannot exsist with a huge amount of complexity already present. This points to design it is the most logical conclusion
>In order for someone to be an atheist
>believe
You could just say I don't know anything about chemistry and biology. It would be faster.
Although I guess ctrl-v is fast too.
Atheists believe that there is no creator despite the evidence. That was my point.
oh lawdy
>Atheists believe
Nope.
Im pretty sure i know more about the human body than 99% of the people here.
This doesn't prove the existance of a single God in heaven. It might as well be millions of Gods who cooperated to do this.
Or it might be aliens. Or robots. Or anything that we haven't seen. But it doesn't prove your God.
"I don't know what you're talking about or wasn't able to understand the wikipedia page when I skimmed it, so you should waste your time sifting through blogs looking for evidence that counters your point."
t.you
spider sense
I study medicine, i probably know much more about this than u do.
You seriously think warping protein clusters like RNA that are responsible for DNA translation had nothing to do with Eukaryota evolution. Faggot your missed a book or two in your studies, are you serious ?
>No idiot we are obviously designd
wow well when you clarify your argument so perfectly, who could really argue?
either you're dumb as bricks or your LARPing is cancerous at best
Look up chemical evolution.
I know that RNA doesnt form itself and also it cannot carry out the cellular functions of the proteins. You can easily look up the massive problems with this hypothesis that make it implausable.
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hey goat fucker.. go fuck a goat. over and out
>the evidence
my sides. pls stop
I don't have enough of these
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> t. first year bio undergrad, bound to flunk out before ever making it to med school
which one is perfect?
I think he ran away after getting slapped so hard
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So you agree killing pedophiles is wrong? Tons of pedos in that "flood" that most certainly "happened".
Considering RNA is the final stage of protein translation and why it can cause so many problems, I call bullshit, Unequivocal bullshit.
loving god
only god has the right to take life
>Assertion
>No evidence
>L-look for it yourself
If you're that confident you can show me why.
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>despite the evidence
Oh, this'll be fun. What ya got
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This one always leapt my lasagna.
Aliens came all over the universe, and inseminated our planet.
nothing wrong?
Science is the position of accepted ignorance, religion is the position of accepted delusion. The belief that we don't know how something happened naturally is infinitely more reasonable than not knowing something and then immediately assuming a higher power was responsible. That position was responsible for all the gods and religions on pretty much every unknown position for all human existence. We learned the facts behind why there is thunder, we know why volcanoes erupt, we know exactly what the sun is and how it functions. They aren't the actions of gods (or in some religions, actual gods in their own right).
I accept that I am ignorant and cannot answer your question and many others like it, that is the position of science: an uncomfortable truth rather than a convenient delusion.
How can he not succeed? He's omnipotent and all knowing.
They just don't want to go through the trouble and skip it all together looking at the small picture. They just think the universe popped up because it wanted to and that conditions were just perfect enough to create a universe filled with the ever so perfect law of physics.
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Creator-san changed his mind.
>>Evidence
The Bible. It's Gods word, no human could have written it. If you want to try, then follow the rules in these videos:
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If you want to learn more about it I would recommend this video:
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You literally cannot prove that God exists or doesn't exist.
okay I lied
I have no life
>How can someone be an atheist and still call himself a logical humam being?
God didn't create man.
Man created God.
If an all-powerful omnipotent being existed that was soley responsible for all that ever was, ever is, and ever will be existed, there would be no point in those things existing at all.
The only logical source for those things would have to come from the being itself.
God would literally have to destroy itself to create something else. And if that were the case, then God doesn't exist as a singular being, but as an infinite amount of physical matter comprising the substance of everything else.
But still, DNA is the blueprint for all organic matter.
Someone (or something) had to be the architect.
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he has a plan
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match the woodpeckers
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hmmm
>In order for someone to be an atheist, he actually has to believe
False. In order for someone to be an atheist, he actually has to NOT believe... You should probably trying starting one of these bait threads when you're a little older.
>The Bible. It's Gods word, no human could have written it.
And yet somehow they did.
>hypothesis
fucking kill yourself
Sorry, let me clarify.
The Bible could not have come about with the words it has, in the order it is in, written over thousands of years, by dozens of guys, without the internet, not contradicting itself, meeting all the rules in the videos Chuck Missler pointed out, and has messages in the whole that cant be seen unless analysed (pic related), without God being behind it.
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