You guys heard that Antifa's collecting money to buy T-34 Tank for their protests?

You guys heard that Antifa's collecting money to buy T-34 Tank for their protests?

Guess it's shit tier tank for shit tier people.

This is going to end well.

I actually hope they go through with this.

Fake news, its not gonna happen.

It'd be funny if Right wingers bought some German WWII Tank destroyer like StuG or Marder...

>T34
>shit tank
The most meh in Russian engineering, so easy to fix a monkey could do it, gun that does the job okay, tracks that are okay, controls that are okay. The T34 may not be pretty, but it gets the job done.


Of course, getting revolutionary LARPers to maintain and care for a tank and its ammunition is going to be its downfall. A tank takes 40 hours to maintain for every week it's functional. Do you really expect them to do that quickly, efficiently and properly?

>Falling for a virgin T34/85
>Not going for the chad IS-2
>They won't last 5 minutes.

>mechanical engineering knowledge
>leftist organization
Pick one.

so which commie gets to own the tank?

Tfw i will never shoot a tank.

It'll be hard to maintain since it's really meh at most. Armor in itself usually isn't fitted properly, gun needs to be disabled, so that's a + for them, but making sure that tracks are working fine and that the hammer thing hammering the pins in place is always in right place does require some regular work and maintainence. Also engine and steering on that old bucket would need mainteinence as well...

the only chad tank of the war was the Tiger 2

by the end of the war in its final model run it was extremely mechanically reliable(after some not so good initial models obv)

its armor was impenetrable to all but like firefly shaped composite rounds at like 250meters or less

its gun could kill enemy tanks up to and over 3km away

it was the definition of a chad tank

To legally own a tank, the gun must be disable and the tank must be fitted with rubber tracks. At least in the USA. A license is also required.

Reminded me of this.

>IS-2
gay as fuck
challenger 2/leo 2 retrofit or bust

>Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiget II
>extremely mechanically reliable

You are aware that that specific model was so heavy it's literally famous for braking down.

I was about to post something like that. Antifa is made up of societal failures, tank maintenance is beyond them.

>implying this isn't the most chad wwii tank

>StuG
>tank destroyer

kys faggot

We need to raise money to buy an anti tank gun.

Dogs chase cars but that does not mean they can drive one; hell they have to be bussed in to their riots

Yes, Sturmgeschütz, why?

More of an assault gun, in fact "Sturmgeschütz" translates into assault gun. That being said that doesn't prevent it from doubling up roles

>tfw you will live to see communists cooked alive inside of a flaming tank at a demonstration on U.S. soil

Im literally imagining a tank battle in the steets between antifa and the alt right.

>bringing a fucking T-34 in urban streets
>implying Wehrmacht enthusiasts won't shoot the commander as soon as he pops up from a rooftop
>implying they won't do some saving private Ryan shit and firebomb the engine deck

kek guess they realized they'd need it after trying to pick a fight with the AB

The ISU-152 "beast killer"
Sending all the Panthers, Tigers, elephants and others nigger animals back to their savanna since 1944

Modern day communists have nothing in common with ww2 communists.

Disabling the main gun is almost an afterthought, as there is no ammunition available. I don't think 90% of antifa are even fit enough to conduct maintenance on a tank, even an old medium tank where everything is smaller and lighter than on modern tanks. It isn't like working on a car, every part and tool is heavy as shit.

Really depends on model when you put it that way... Like Pzkw. IV was equiped with short barrel for more of a support role up until the model D, then they started going with the longer barrel so it can fight other tanks easier.

it would help if you could spell tiger or breaking

but anyways

you have different production models of every tank made by any country ever

the panther had many models, the sherman had many models, the t34 had many models

as did the tiger 2

by the end of the tiger 2's service life, the problems associated with the breaking drive trains and leaking gaskets were fixed making it very reliable ESPECIALLY for its size

it was actually more reliable than the late models of the panther surprisingly, despite being larger

tfw no turret basket.

tfw when stumbling around on the floor chasing the turret trying to lay the gun

tfw destroyed by hordes of pzIIs

tfw i have no face.

>have nothing to say... W8, A TYPO

Tiger II was literally only one model. That's why you'll find it also as Tiget B or Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger Aufs. B. Panther did have a few models, so did panzers 3 and 4, but this is specific model... Engine overheated,tracks fell off, it dug in to the ground, so they didn't bother that much fixing it all... He was just too heavy.

>Modern day communists have nothing in common with ww2 communists.
But Sup Forumsacks are totally real nazis

The final run of the Panthers was better than the tiger 2. Once they fixed the transmission problems they were the best tank of the war. Gun was better than the Tiger 1's and more than enouhh for everything it faced, and it was light enough to not have the logistic problens the Tiger 2 had. And the front armor was still tough enough to cause major problems for all Allies and Soviet tank guns at range. Of course the tiger 2 still helped because Allies and Soviets often mistook the Panthers for Tiger 2s, as they have almost the same silhouette (the hull is the same shape only smaller and the turret is similar shape only smaller). There were a couple of advances that were delayed to bring up more tank destroyers thinking there were far more Tiger 2s than anticipated. But the Tiger 2 was overkill and a waste of resources.

"prOTeSTs,"

dying in a kv-2 is best way to die for motherland

*blocks your poorly designed gun and bargain bin ammo*
Heh, nice try kid.
*unsheathes 76mm with APC ammo*

also t-34s are absolute shit to drive. Fortunately the left has a good supply of manlets because they're going to need them to fit into the drivers compartment but they also need to be strong because the tillers are shitty as fuck so they might have issues.

Also t-34 76s were pretty much trash with commander also functioning as gunner and loader. It wasn't until the t-34-85 with the bigger turret that they became workable tanks.

>Tiger 2
Have fun with being an obese shitsack riddled with mechanical problems.

>cheap
>sturdy
>not to slow
>reliable

THE tank of WW2 era.

The chad sherman vs the virgin t-34

on that note its going to be funny when they pull a james fields and accidentally a whole crowd of reporters at their first rally with it

funny cause those things were extremely hard for the crews to operate and load before getting smacked

their optics for target acquisition were notoriously bad

the guns would often break components of the tank when firing due to the huge fucking recoil from the 152mm shells

despite literally using an artillery piece they still don't outrange their opponents ability to engage them

and even then the models with the 'high powered' BL8 was never fielded enmasse making its role in the war very minimal especially considering they never got a recorded kill on a tiger 2 or jadgtiger

and to top it all off

the AP shells used in the 152mm guns were so ineffective they could rarely penetrate their targets in combat conditions and would rather just transfer kinetic energy and literally just break the tanks as opposed to actually penetrating and killing crew like it is vitally important to do so

tldr

look mom I played world of tanks I know everything about tanks now

That's why I respect the Russians. Their product is incredibly cheap, yet very well built.

This. KV-2 is the chad tank of WWII.
>152 mm howitzer
>10 feet tall
>heavy tank AND assault gun role

TFW T-34 had tracks so shitty that pins didn't have heads so they were constantly falling out so Commies just put a "hammer" to literally hammer them back in as tanks goes. Armor was so badly fitted that a simple molotov would leak inside and burn people alive.

>It'll be hard to maintain
No, Sir. Part of why the T34 won against the superior (yet flammable) German engineering is because it was so easily repaired. You would fix the tracks with a hammer and chisel, rivet anything that falls out back into place, and simple welding will fix any holes or pieces that fall out under fire or through (the more likely) gross incompetence.

But back to present day, how many of these guys have hammered, well, anything into place in their life? Even those who have would mostly be of carpentry, very minor carpentry at that. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but the T34 didn't have a steering wheel. Who would drive it? And as you say, engine, transmission and steering will need some serious work after all these years. Who's going to do that? Their local mechanic?
>The only Chad of the war was the Tiger II
You spelled KV2 or ISU-152 wrong.

Why buy that when a molotov cocktail can easily disable it. Russian tanks are shit tier.

ameriburgers believe this

Stop being a pussy then and serve a term.

xd le gun is big

xd le epic world of tanks game

But the thing is... It was really shit. The onlygood thing was that there were so many of them since they could be made so fast.

Mein bruder

>yet flammable

confirmed for only playing world of tanks

in real fucking life when you hit a transmission your fucking shell gets stopped before killing a crew

something russians dont understand cause their crews were unironically less valuable than the tanks due to their fetal alcohol syndrome and inability to properly operate an armored vehicle

>t-34
>well built
"no"
Most of the time the welds weren't even complete.
>Wehraboos believe this
German tanks were overhyped by conscripts.

That's the whole point. It was good enough.

Literally burning people with molotovs because armor was so shitty fitted.

So in seriousness how would they bring a tank to protests, there's no way it's street legal
and what could they even practically use it for

Sup Forums should buy an M10.

It is legal if you have gun disabled, tracks replaced with rubber ones, a way to see behind you and I think if it doesn't way over certain limit...

>in real fucking life when you hit a transmission your fucking shell gets stopped before killing a crew
I'm talking even before combat. German transmissions were frequently reported burst into flames for apparently no reason. And yes, I'm ignoring Porsche and his shitty electric transmission. They ironed the bugs out after, but virtually everyone knows how easy it was for Panthers and (much less frequently) Tiger Is to burst into flames.

Get a tank that actually removed commies, ie Patton or Duster

*destroys sherman from 3km away*

pshhhh nothing personel kid

That guy's constantly ignoring that we're talking about 70t tank here with shitty old engine and transmission...

>wow guys look what these early models of the tanks did surely they never fixed this

I still hate communists though.

>He doesn't know about spalling
On both the Asian and European fronts t-34 crews suffered losses to ~30mm cannons firing low velocity rounds because the rivets inside would snap off from the impacts and bounce inside the crew compartment. I'm not saying a round would go through the transmission, that's easily over the maximum penetration of most WW2 era tank guns, but it could still kill crew members.

Haha look at that baby barrel.
>mediocre girth
>short as fuck
Make space for BIG BRITISH CANON.

I was talking about German tanks just now, man. Get with it.
Yes, the T34 is bad, but it is (barely) functional in the right hands. Antifa are not the right hands.

Forgive OP, he has play too much world of tanks and now subsequently thinks Soviet tunks best tunks ya because reasons.

FV4005 was too late for WWII.

*moves faster than your turret can traverse*

>starts an engine
>moves 10 meters
>gets stuck because 70t beast tank dug into asphalt
>track falls off, because it has tendency to on that model
>engine overheats and starts to smoke because it can't pull the monster out and also has tendency to happen on that specific model
>transmission bursts into flames since it was common thing for that tank


>Nothing personel kid.

>commies buying commie tanks
more helicopter rides?

No, no... I agree with you... It was shit, but it did the job. I was talking about "but muh tiger 2" guy.

XD WORLD OF TANKS HAHA AM I RITE

>Surely they never fixed this
I never said they never fixed it, Jesus fuck man
BEFORE they worked out how not to get them to burst into flames, THEY BURST INTO FLAMES. OFTEN. Why is this hard to understand?

Well yea. IS there a better way to learn about ww2 tanks?

the hellcat was a pretty chad tank

that and the firefly are really the only good allied tanks imo

...

Hellcat was a beast, just when you think you figured out the hellkitty is banging you from the left, the next shell comes from the right. No need for heavy armour when the enemy has no idea where the fuck you are.

Wikipedia, at the very least?

>early models
Pzkw. V Tiger
Pzkw. VI Tiger 2 (Tiger model B)
Pazkw. VII Panther
(a few variants of panther, I think 2)

End of War.

It's not like Pzkw. IV where the same tank had different models... Like Taking IV Aufs. A, straping longer barrel and calling it Aufs B and so on until H.It was the variant of Tiger, just heavier.

Tank Encyclopedia

If they want to buy a 26.5 tonne paperweight, they're welcome to it. It will be too much work to bring a worn out one back to working order, and too much work to keep a working one functional. As a cherry on top of this shit sundae, they'd never pass the background test for the tax stamp for a single tank round, and they have to buy an individual Title II stamp for each individual round.

Also, she was a tank destroyer, not tech a medium or MBT. Even by today's standards the hellkitty would still be classified as a TD, she had a killer cannon but zero to little armour.

and also if they decided to arm it and road it to one of their protest , you can bet the national guard would blow that paperweight tank to kingdom come

Must have gun disabled by law. Otherwise can't even own a tank in US.
Yes, I wanted to buy one, so what?

>implying they won't do some saving private Ryan shit and firebomb the engine deck
Hollyjew stole that trick from the Finns, who did that in real life before WWII even started.

why does nobody recommend this?

You know, I was always confused by the delegation of "tank destroyer". What constitutes a tank destroyer?

>I don't think 90% of antifa are even fit enough to conduct maintenance on a tank

They aren't even fit enough to operate the transmission on t-34/85.

i would be suprised if they can load the 85 mm shell

What even is that? Looks like Hetzer with a tumor.

Effectively ? More Offensive/ Stealth Power than a mbt. A TD is meant to be completely offensive, one shot kill if you will. An MBT is designed to take some damage while dishing it out. TD's= Snipers MBT's = Frontline Troops

Not entirely sure if it's a T28 or a T95.

I'd rather get something more economical. Like an MBT 70 or a chieftain mk 10.

>Sup Forums should buy an M10.

Junkers 87 Stuka.