Why the fuck aren't there any underwater sentient species?

Seriously the earth is like 70% water and no dumbass undersea organism has figured out how to farm or anything? What gives?? We barely know anything about the ocean. I can't imagine how it'd be like to explain the magnificence of human progress to at least one undersea organism that can at least understand

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nothing has thumbs in the ocean thats why

1) Hands
2) Fire

>evolution
>fish didn't become immune to nets and fishing

Choose one darwinfags.

Life in the ocean is easy as fuck.

>figured out how to farm under water

I chuckled a little.

Same goes for deer and other game. Why aren't they immune to bullets and arrows?

Checkmate sciencefags.

Whales and dolphins are sentient. Just because they don't speak human language or learn it are irrelevant to that fact.

what are crabs

>t. crab from the little mermaid

we have only explored 11% of the ocean. there very well might be.

you are talking about eu-socialability which isn't common to many animals except humans and bees.

The undersea organisms that figured out to farm are you, your ancient ancestors are lobsters.

Life is too short and dangerous to develop much more than sharp teeth and sanic swimm

There probably are. Our exploration of the seafloor is minimal, at best. And we can only briefly visit the lowest portions.

We once thought those areas were unlivable, but extremophiles proved us wrong.

Maybe U.S.O.s are advance Earthbased or Alien origined life.

Talking out my ass but:
1. Probably other energy requirements prevented development of very advanced brain power. (Though I think dolphins are on the level of apes.)
2. No possibility of fire/agriculture
3. Cool gadgets like 6th an 7th senses like sharks have are different genetic innovations which served them as well as perhaps a powerful brain could have

Dolphins are sentient

They keep a low profile.

this really
>be dolphin
>swimming
>open mouth while still swimming
>just had dinner

>The undersea organisms that figured out to farm are you, your ancient ancestors are lobsters.
if we're descended from lobsters why are there still lobsters

yea maybe, or maybe you are retarded. Which seems more likely?

low oxygen content of water

Squids are smarter than dolphins or whales. Also crows are pretty close to sentient

>he doesn't know Sebastians name

dolphins are just water dogs they're not sentient. only 1 species is sentient and that's because they were made in god's image

Biologists consider dolphins to be as sentient as humans.

If you think Dolphins aren't sentient you're dumb as fuck and know little to nothing about Dolphins.

> Leafcuck
> Assuming their opinion matters

Look in a mirror for retardation.

It's been a while, lad.

dolphins have a theory of mind lul

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Octopus is pretty close, but probably because water is oxygen deficient and weighs a fuck ton.

if they were sentient why are they just as useless as their ancestors a billion years ago?

I'm checking the mirror, all I see is a fat retarded american.

chad whales exist, they go around chadding it up flipping seals through the air and blowing big fucking bubbles underneath other virgin whales to disorient them as they get raped and nose pounded

ITT
RETARDS who do not know the difference between sentient and sapient

basically this, intelligence doesn't arise when survival is easy bc the stupid live to reproduce

because (((they))) dont want you to feel special
youre only as good as a dolphin

> I'm checking the mirror, all I see is a fat retarded american.

I wonder if you even understand the message of the sentence you just crafted.

Top. Fucking. Kek.

>made in god's image
Has to be the centipede !

the ocean is relatively plentiful compared to earth's land mass
there isn't much incentive to grow smart, or at least that smart
look at orcas, they are intelligent due to them being social and simply from learning to work together they are the absolute apex predators of the oceans
toothed whales are probably responsible for killing off the larger sharks
humans meanwhile are relatively poor omnivores that were constantly getting eaten by other animals until not too long ago
even then the only smart ones are those that lived in shitty areas where you had to comprehend abstract threats in addition to the immediate ones
also no fire underwater

Dolphins are water dogs? BTFO.

Video related.
youtube.com/watch?v=PL9iMPx9CpQ

They have no need to change; they're already perfectly adapt for their environment.

They can learn new things and teach those things to other members of their species.

Cephalopods are the correct answer to the thread. They're above chimpanze tier. They use tools. Their entire body is virtually their brain and they are shapeshifters. Porpoises (dolphins and orcas specifically) are dog to elephant tier.

youtube.com/watch?v=GC_mV1IpjWA

Because being a lobster is chill af homie.

Dolphins are bro tier

Well thats just wrong. Smart and sentient sure, but as humans? Lol no

>being a gay schizo who believes in sea martians
>being american

I guess I get the last laugh.

A sentient life is an extremely rare event. A radically new "branch" of life is an extremely rare event.

Thus, evolution of two (equally high) sentient species is all but impossible.

You're not special you faggot.

> Making shit up for a retort
> I guess I get the last laugh.

You sure did. How can I compete. All I had was your own idiocy to show.

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I think one of the greatest sings of the evolution of intelligence is the use of tools. This is evident in the smartest of land animals (apes, chimps, elephants) and sea animals (dolphins). However this use of tools is more limited in underwater environments, as stuff is more likely to be floating around than hidden in a place or in a place that has to be climbed. Plus the need for fins and webbing reduces dexterity. That doesn't hinders dolphins from trying their best with their beaks though, like drawing. Even then they have been brothers in arms in the navy before, guarding against frogmen and locating mines. It would be interesting to be able to communicate directly with them haha

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Civilization requires energy to grow, and lots of it, way beyond that just feeding. You can't get it in an environment like water.

Are you 5 years old, seriously believing in sea martians. I guess those hurricanes did a number on your prolaspe anus, since now all I see is yankee shemales larping and cucking for mermaids.

Literally believe in space mermaids, your brain is fried.

Ahahahahahaha aha aha aha

don't those fuckers in Florida count?
must be underwater by now ffs

Huh?

just don't , I read it too , best just to move along...........

>This

Me:
> There probably are.
> Maybe U.S.O.s are...

Leafcuck unable to read:
>Literally believe in space mermaids

Using "literally" in a Reddit fashion. Unable to craft sentences with coherent meaning. Flipping their shit to any insult they can cling to, most unrelated to the topic at hand.

Flag checks out for sure.

Keep 'em coming, Leaf. This is funny as fuck.

all animals are sentient you dumb fucks


sentient means you feel things, like pain and pleasure

even niggers?

Trips don't lie

BTFO leaf

Dolphins get high half their dumbfuck lives. 50/50 chance of raping a human or saving them, when we get stuck in the ocean.

Do you know how hard it is to make fire underwater?

dolphins and octopus are on the level of monkeys or maybe a little higher...the problem is working together in a group AND the ability to use tools.

dolphins are smart enough to work in a group but lack arms and hands

octopi have the ability to use tools but do not work together

People keep confusing sentience with sapience.

I think the question is what really defines human levels of intelligence..

I agree that smart animals use tools but that may not be the only requirement for intelligence, there are factors like communication which we know dolphins do. What fucks me up is squids, everyone says they are so smart but what is that based on? What smart thing have you ever seen a squid or octopus do?

All I've seen is those experiments where they find their way out of tanks and shit, I mean its interesting that they can do it but they literally have no bones so I mean it isn't a far fight really.

Everyone feels when niggers are near

Bong has a good point.

Sentient means a sense of self-awareness, doesn't it? All animals are alive, no doubt, but not all of them are self-aware. Dolphins, apes, elephants, and others pass the "mirror-test" to notice and identify themselves, but not all animals can.

Go back to /x/ you retarded kid. This board is for politics not your fantasies involving sea-shemales and mermaids.

Lmao.

A single whale is literally as intelligent as a human they just don't have the ability to create written language and compound their intelligence the generations and across society. Have you seen the movie blackfish? The orcas actually outsmart the humans.

90% of the ocean is like desert. There's nothing.

>what are aliens

youtube.com/watch?v=N_ywDP2mJzM

You can't build tools or make fire underwater, so there would be little reason for intelligence to be selected for.

>A single whale is literally as intelligent as a human

You mean like a human child right?

>tfw no one ever knows the difference between sentient and sapient
sм н , fa м .

>be dolphin
>be swimming
>see something
>rape it
>see some other stuff
>rape that ass well
Fixed

I think it's evolutionarily impossible for intelligent life capable of creating technology or simple tools to exist underwater.

So they're seaniggers?

Animals are never going to understand or learn human language, the question is why havent we developed a way to talk to animals yet. We are smarter than them and its on us to elevate them

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this. without a power source as effective and mobile as fire, a species wont get far

>squids are smarter than orcas
You're both fucking morons. Orcas are the smartest murder machines in the ocean. They are so smart they can teach themselves to speak dolphin just to outsmart them

Animals that are like halfway to human intelligence invariably behave like niggers. Really makes you think.

>We are smarter than them and its on us to elevate them
This is the exact same train of thought that is responsible for the west being flooded with niggers and sandniggers.

I remember hearing about this some time back

independent.co.uk/news/science/dogs-can-understand-human-speech-scientists-say-a7216481.html

Let's archive that
archive.is/ebOpL

>be dolphin
>get murdered by chinks

You know how scientists are always clamoring about how we know more about outer space than we do our own oceans?

Maybe there is a fucking reason for that.
1. The ocean sucks
2. Who wants to be around some faggy fish
3. Fuck salt

Let me explain something to you, Sup Forums.
We never need to explore our fucking oceans because there's nothing cool down there.
So don't you go looking, because you're going to waste your time, my time and humanity's time.

I don't understand why anyone would wanna go check out that bullshit.

If you wanna get the same experience just go to the deep end of a pool or a pond and it's the same exact shit just deeper.

I repeat: There is nothing cool in our unexplored oceans and ain't nobody got time to find out.

> This is the exact same train of thought that is responsible for the west being flooded with niggers and sandniggers.

G'damn. That there is SOLID reasoning.

Bravo bruv.

Im not saying we have to put aquariums for dolphins at every corner of a city or let chimpa run loose on the streets of our urbam centres dummy

Why do americans always think black and white?

>thinks a pincer and opposable thumbs are even remotely comparable
>Not realising how important the opposable thumb is in allowing precision grip, basically what changed us from Ape to Man.
>Aus poster

'Course it fucking is

>why the fuck aren't there any underwater sentient species?

Maybe they discovered fire long before humans did.

It starts with teaching them language and how to use tools, it ends with DOLPHINED porn spam on future Sup Forums in a few hundred years.

Isn't this pasta supposed to go with that gif of the creepy squid?

I refuse to believe my dog can actually understand what I say. I've taught my puppers since her birth, and I don't believe at any point she understands what I say and why I say it. She understands that if she doesn't shit on the carpet, she doesn't get yelled at. If she scratches at the door or sits/rolls over she gets a treat or loving in the form of petting and/or praise. My dog will never understand why I feel sad, lonely, bored, happy or angry, etc any any point, I do not believe she will understand any of that. Don't get me wrong, I love my puppers with all my heart, but she will never understand me or my gf on an emotional or "personal" level, because she is a dog.
>pic related, my puppers