How celtic are the celtic-nations?

How celtic are the celtic-nations?

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How celtic aren't the celtic-nations?

Not very. Barely any of them even speak their own language because they're that cucked. Britonia in Spain is long gone.

Well they got CESAR'D
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Genetically? Reasonably so.
Culturally? How Irish are the American Irish? That much Celtic in Irish Celts.

See I don't know. Bretagne and Scotland test as both being Brythonic Celtics despite the Frogs being Gallic. The language even survived on youtube, youtube.com/watch?v=2MImv7d8-DI

>Genetically? Reasonably so.
The UK is mostly Brythonic Celtic, Portugal and North western France too.

A cel-what?
Never heard of such things.
Ænglic however...

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Genetic studies show that the people in the British Isles are still mostly genetically the same people who were there in early neolithic times, back when it was connected to the continent. So not very.

Yeah and don't reply again you homo

>tfw you will never be a mixed descendent from the Anglo saxons and Norsemen creating the greatest warrirors and conquerors in the whole world
>tfw peasant tier norseman

I'm not talking about ethnicity, i'm talking about culture. The languages have all survived, or even been revived from extinction such as Cornish, but they are spoken by a tiny population numbering in the thousands to the tens of thousands. The French government has spent centuries systematically eradicating languages like Breton in a way that the UK hasn't done for a long time.

Fun fact Norse/Anglo's founded the American south with their music and the Canadian north like Thunder bay. If you're ever in Thunder bay speak Finnish

>tfw 1/4 celtic

celtberians!
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That's pretty cool. So, celts are still a thing?

Austria is genetically more Celtic than Ireland

Why do you think British actors can recreate the US Southern accent so well, and vice versa?

>So, celts are still a thing

Sort of. They're complete larpers, and only a tiny percentage of each Celtic nation speaks their native language. Once upon a time Celtic culture extended as far east as Galatia in central Turkey. Now it's barely even a thing in its last enclaves. Celticism now merely exists as a "fuck the English Sassenachs" movement by butthurt nationalists.

Get the fuck out of here really

Northern italy is celtic

I get that. However genetically coastal regions in western Europe are the same celtic people I've researched for over a millennium. Oddly enough north western Spain and Portugal too. Given historical context it also makes sense.

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Central Europe is the probable birthplace of the Celts.

This
I'm Cornish and only about 10% of the population speaks Cornish.
Besides, all the celtic languages are fucking useless and disgusting, I'd be fucking miserable if I didn't speak English.

Damn shame

They got cuck by the Saxons (Germans who emigrated in 500 AC to the Island)

>Oddly enough north western Spain and Portugal too.

When the Anglos, Saxons and Jutes began widespread expansion in the 5th century AD and horrific plagues smashed what had been the province of Britannia, lots of Britons fled by sea to Armorica (Brittany) and what became known as Britonia in northern Spain. The British refugees had their own special bishop that went to church councils at the time.

I thought Asturias was Germanic

I've read in Julius Caesars commentaries the the tribes that inhabit modern day Netherlands were the ones who swam across the English Channel.

"Anglo-Saxons"" are rapebabies between Saxons and Celts

But it ended up being a surprisingly good breed

By the way the Celts are the remnants of Atlantean continent which sunk. R1B is Atlantean and R1A is Aryan

Ah okay. Fascinating.

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Yeah, Western Europe is very diverse and a mix bag of mostly white peoples, this is what gave us our strength and resulted in so many innovations (lots of unique genetic individuals with unique capabilities). But if we ruin this by mixing us with neggers it iwll be over.

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Batavians were famously effective fighters and swimmers since they lived on marshy islands. They didn't swim the Channel, since that's virtually impossible without a combination of the extra strength a modern diet gives you and a wetsuit. They did swim across rivers during Caesar's campaigns in Britain though.

Nah, Celtic. You must be thinking of the Germanic Suebi that conquered what is now Portugal in the 410s AD and held it for the next two hundred years.

Agreed. Until lately the thing I've read is that the Modus Operandi for the Romans was to use geographical Proximity for Auxiliary units in the Roman military. So whaterever Syrian archers placed on Hadrians wall was outnumbered 100/1 for Belgia tribes of the Netherlands. Also Celts.

While they often dont speak the language safe for an accent they surely have some festivals still with old roots and maaaaaybee special intergroup relations that are so subtle they couldnt point it out until you life there as a foreigner and see it

Yea
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It had the Suebi, Visigoths and the exiled Visigoths who founded the Kingdom of Asturias. It's pretty impressive how they kept being Celtic after that many years of Germanic rule.

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>differentiating between celts and germanics
stop

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They didn't kill us all

>since that's virtually impossible without a combination of the extra strength a modern diet gives you and a wetsuit.

But it's been done multiple times with multiple "non-modern diets" The channel isn't that large.

80 years ago a thickass layer of daily rites and traditions might have made them odd and "celtish" too but modernity swept that under the rug.
Comparisons between these and other nonceltic people would be interesting.
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> It's pretty impressive how they kept being Celtic after that many years of Germanic rule.

Even more impressive is that I remember researching into it and finding out that even as late the 4th century AD you still had detachments of the Roman army stationed in the Astures, Cantabria and Vasconia fighting against them. There are tombstones of dead officers that died against them even they were supposed to have been conquered in the millenium prior.

Actually, when you think about it the only parts of the Roman Empire in the west that threw off Roman rule were all Celtic i.e. the Britons, Armoricans and Cantabrians. So fair dues to them.

That's a damn shame bud. If anything Canada teaches us, odd cultural traditions survives, despite a majority trying to shut you the fuck up.

>Muh eye colour and only the most glaring immediate skin level physical attributes matter
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I don't even disagree with you but fuck off Australian faggots

Entire Library of the Celtic Church, It has resurfaced as St Malachys prophecy has been revealed to be true

The whole of the UK is 70% Celtic.

So very.

Suebi ruled but they didn't exterminate or displace the locals, they were also very Romanized and the Visigoths, especially the Asturian christians lead by Pelagius/Pelayo were literally Hispanorromans and Romanized Celts larping as Visigoths, Pelagius itself is a Hispanorroman name that the Visigothic elite didn't use, they still used Germanic names like Roderic or Egica, he is considered a Visigoth because he was part of the Visigothic Kingdom and fought against the Umayyad invasion to defend it, but he was more likely ethnically not Visigothic/Germanic.

>but he was more likely ethnically not Visigothic/Germanic.
Oh..

Well, its happening everywhere. Turns out that noone bothers about a 2000 year old placebo rite against an illness or misfortune if you are enlightened to know about germs and posess a health insurance.
A tradition must either be fun&serve as a community reinforcer, have a deep meaning that is understood and comforts you, or be done out of isolation and stubborn habit. Also all too rural stuff, which doesnt fits citylife is the majority of small ancestral customs that vanish. If you have an officejob you wont continue the beliefs thaz were held in accordance to the yearly turnip harvest
Sometimes its bound to happen and you gonna let go, sometimes you wonder if a concious effort and reevaluation of what you did back then might not be safed into modern times with an altered face.

This.

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I doubt that much of this survived the century.

He was more likely a Celt than a German.

The issue here is that all of Iberia was the Visigothic Kingdom, but hardly every Iberian was an ethnic Visigoth, obviously, then the muslims invade, the ones who fight against them are still considered Visigoths because they were part of the now crumbling Visigothic Kingdom even if they aren't ethnic Visigoths and this is where the confusion comes. The Visigoths used Germanic names, not Latin, Pelagius was probably part of the Hispanorroman lower nobility, luckily he didn't betray his Christian brothers like other Hispanorromans did out of despite for the Visigothic elite like the powerful Banu Qasi (originally Cassius) family in Aragon did, who converted to Islam and opened North-Eastern Spain to the invasion of the Umayyads, who then used this route to attack the Franks.

the celtic language descended from proto-indo-european spoken on the ukrainian/russian steppe. the indo europeans mixed with the locals in central and western europe but todays "celts" are mostly descended from the the earlier inhabitants who are a mix of western hunter gatherers and early european farmers from anatolia.

Makes sense considering how Pelagius is portrayed. How come there isn't many info documented on the Germanic era of Iberia? I heard Hispania was very advanced even before the moor invasion.

>How come there isn't many info documented on the Germanic era of Iberia

Limited primary sources. You've got church council records, a few sparse chronicles from people like Orosius and Hydatius and not a whole lot more than that. Urban life, and the educated bishopric class that it fed, didn't survive as well in Hispania as it did in Gaul where you had figures like Gregory the Great writing.

>I heard Hispania was very advanced even before the moor invasion.

Not astoundingly. It didn't suffer as badly with the fall of the Western Roman Empire as some other areas did but it didn't do particularly well either in contrast to say, former Africa province.

Celtic is just a culture. The original celts were living in central Europe. "Celts" of britain and Ireland are neolithic population who converted to that culture. Armorica and Galicia just hosted some british refugees. Brythonic culture took over easily in western Armorica because the native gauls were geographically isolated and largely not romanized.

That's pretty unfortunate. I imagine the world being extremely more different if the Visigothic Kingdom didn't fall. The colonization of America would have happened way much later and cultures present in modern Iberia wouldn't exist. There's also the fact that Charlemagne wouldn't have risen to power and the HRE wouldn't have existed at all. It's as if the world was split as in a "Y" path with either Hispania falling or not.

Every single second of history alters everything else. For example, there is probably a timeline where the Visigoths didn't make peace with the central Roman government and then push the Alans and Vandals out of Spain. The Romans would have held wealthy Carthage and eventually managed to potentially retake most of the west and push the Visigoths back under their heel, keeping the WRE alive for another century and changing the entire course of world history.

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>genetically celtic
no such thing

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>Gallicia is included
>France is not included
>Belgium is not included
>Swiss is not included
>North Italy is not included


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We raped your shithole for the next centuries

Such a shame that this once great european ethnic group got genocided to shit and reduced small pockets in the west.

The celtic people lived in Europe and it was only their culture that spread to the British Isles. The people living in the British Isles are essentially the descendants of the original Europeans who lived in Europe at the time of the Ice Age. During the Ice Age they moved south into the Iberian Peninsular and migrated north back into what would become the British Isles. This would be why they claim the Basque people to be rather closely related to the people of the British Isles.

Asturian reporting in , AMA.

Does the average person of the area have any knowledge and pride in their history of fighting against invaders?

Galicia is not celtic retard kys rheir language is the same a Portugal

There's a common saying there which is "Asturias is Spain, the rest is reconquered territory from the moors"

Yes, we asturians are very proud of our heritage. First romans tried to invade Asturias and it took them a couple centuries to submit us, then muslim invaders did not even reach us. Later, we literally BTFO frogs during our independence war (1808-1812) and expelled them from our land. Finally, in the 20th century, Asturias declared his independence from Spain twice, the first was in the Asturian Revolution ( 1934 ) and the second was in the Civil War ( 1936-1939 ).

>Asturias declared his independence from Spain twice, the first was in the Asturian Revolution ( 1934 ) and the second was in the Civil War ( 1936-1939 ).
>Asturian independentists fairy tales

Having some shitty commie revolution crushed TWICE is hardly the same as declaring independence from Spain, nor was the Asturian nationalism (a completely absurd modern fabrication) the ultimate idea behind it.

>Spain
>Celtic

Genetic studies also show that humans are 97% chimpanzee.

'Mostly genetically the same' is an intentionally misleading statement.

>October Revolution
>A separatist movement
This is what inbreds think

THE ENGLISH ARE A BUNCH OF POOFS

History talks by itself, Asturias has more right of self-determination than any other region of Spain. We have our own culture and language, also our roots are deeply connected with the atlantic arch of NW Europe.

>Galicia is not celtic

Ask me how I know you're a jackeen.

>a tiny percentage of each Celtic nation speaks their native language
>as their first language
Anyone raised in Ireland speaks some irish.

Spain is 0% celtic.

>n the 20th century, Asturias declared his independence

Oh boy independentist anarchists incoming.

Don't you have any cows to fuck right now?

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>Asturias has more right of self-determination than any other region of Spain

Yeh , Being proud of an ethnic group and nationality that hasnt existed in 2k years is dumb as shit

At least catalonia has a language

Look it up tard

New archaeologic evidence actually seems to show the celts came from wurope to ireland and scotland not the other way around

The moorsbarrived onna place irrigated with lubraries cities castle roads baths literature and such from a desert of no such thing.

We also do and it is spoken by more than 100k people here in Asturias.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturian_language

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What kind of shitty map is that leaf?

less than they could have been

Are you ready for some BIG CELTIC COCK?

i think what he means is you would be genetically closer to the neolithic people of the british isles than the Hallstatt people of central europe where celtic culture originated.

Spain is not celtic, it's basque iberian.

Italian native is "celticish"

cute

There is a misconception about celtiberians as people believe celts were in the north and not in the south. In reality celts were found in the interior in the mountain valleys, where invaders left them to be, suebis, cartaghenians, they all wanted river mouths, the moors ruled the plains, meanwhile the celts kept to themselves on the mountain tops and river valleys. My mother is from a tiny village in the middle of the mountains called the redhead's village, half my family from my mother's side have redhair and grey eyes. So celtics survived through isolation. As for culture, the northern, close to the border with galicia larp a bit, but thats it really.