Discussion time: was 9/11 an inside job? If yes, what proof do you have to support your claim?
Discussion time: was 9/11 an inside job? If yes, what proof do you have to support your claim?
Cooper Morales
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Ryan James
Plane wings can't penetrate steel beams like if they were butter
Lincoln Wood
>steel > fiberglass composite
Oliver Hernandez
>Hey we need a reason to invade Iraq how about we just tell the public they have WMD's
No we need a false flag
>Ok how about we plant a bomb at an airport
No what we need to do is create the illusion that 2 planes are crashing into one of our biggest landmarks by paying for 2000 eye witnesses claiming they saw it happening, We need to digitally render the plane hitting the building, We need to actually blow up the twin towers and then we need to demolish half of the pentagon and cover the ground with plane debris to make it look like it was hit, We also need to need to make 3 planes disappear and have the people on board of them call their loved ones and lie about whats happening and we also need to fake 3 black boxes.
Xavier Walker
Wrong type of jet engine was found on the street below
Isaac White
WHY AREN'T WE INVESTING IN FLYING METAL BOOMERANGS? THEY'RE CLEARLY EFFICIENT
Jace Gray
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Levi Thompson
Steel fuel can't melt jet beams.
Parker Murphy
Colton Nguyen
Biggest false flag ever pulled off ever
Gabriel Clark
>Steel fuel can't melt jet beams.
I remember I was listening to a podcast and they were saying that the reason Osama said the towers falling was a "miracle" was because he had no idea the towers would have feel, there was no way those towers didn't fall without help.
Julian Myers
"pull it" - jew overlord
he sure picked a mighty coincidental day to skip breakfast in his WTC restaurant.
Nolan James
Controlled demolition. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something.
Jacob Harris
Matthew Kelly
>Controlled demolition. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something.
>mfw everyone forgets about 1993 bombings on the towers
Jose Wood
You are overlooking the small factor of $240 billion worth of government bonds about to mature and with normal checks in place those bonds aren't gonna clear without evidence of massive financial fraud blowing up in the faces of banking institutons, the intelligence community and some big boys in government. See
Landon Wilson
bump
Henry Martinez
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY
Matthew Flores
Your pic related is a distraction pointing to what amounts to mere loose change. Follow the $240 billion in fraudulent gov bonds used to fund the economic crash of the Soviet Union. See
Connor Williams
Nice disinfo strawman, bongface.
Planes were real. Hijackers were also real (although recently patented auto-land tech may have been used to electronically control the planes).
Proof of inside job: At least two separate FBI investigations (Colleen Rowley's team in Minnesota and John P. O'Neill) knew the attacks were coming, but FBI chief blocked their investigations. Richard Armitage (Bush's deputy Sec. of State) allowed known terror threats in the country without interviews, ignoring direct requests from the FTTTF to deny those visas. Independent experts have determined Building 7 did not collapse due to fire. The only reasonable conclusion is that it was a controlled demolition (the owner, who profited hugely via insurance payout, even slipped up a bit and said they "pulled" the building, which is demolition slang for controlled demolition). Mossad agents were caught dancing and celebrating the attack. Saudi and Pakistani governments, which have very close ties with the U.S., contributed to funding the attack. Pakistani intelligence chief Mahmoud Ahmed, who wired $100,000 to the lead hijacker, was literally in a meeting with Bush Administration state department as 9/11 was unfolding. Drills were planned that day to provide an excuse for the slow response by FAA and Air Force (included a literal "plane into building" exercise at the NRO). The 9/11 Commission was a coverup and they stonewalled on tons of key questions. Bush Administration showed they had motive when they used it as an excuse to shred privacy rights and invade Iraq and Afghanistan. The 1999 document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" shows they had this planned, and literally says, "The process of transformation will be slow, absent some catastrophic, catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor."
Tons of other fishy shit, like finding intact passports in the immense pile of rubble, and somehow instantly knowing bin Ladin was the culprit.
Parker Cooper
>What is kinetic energy?
Stupid, low IQ roach.
Carson Martinez
what proof do you have that it wasn't?
Austin Hughes
Most logical explanation (also has the most facts to support it):
>CIA trains Mujaheddin in the 80s and 90s to fight the soviets
>Mujaheddin turn on America because they're religious rural retards
>U.S. government knows an attack is coming, gets intel from numerous international agencies
>Upper echelons recognize the extraordinary benefit of having a terrorist attack on American soil. The amount of illegal laws they'll be able to pass in order to gain power, control, and financial gain will be worth it
>September 11th, 2001. 5 a.m. George W. Bush isn't fully in the know. He has just been told they are on red alert. They fully know what is about to happen, yet do nothing to stop it.
Owner of the twin towers, and others, gets a FAT paycheck since he just took insurance out on it months before. The government gets more control with laws like the patriot act being signed. We now have a justification to VASTLY expand and invest in the military industrial complex and justification to rape any sandshit country we so desire.
Luis Torres
>U.S. government knows an attack is coming,
hurrr that's a conspiracy "theory"
Aaron Kelly
>>jYCH33vX #
I actualy congragulate them on it. It may fall as evil, but fuck it. It's a retarded world, they need power. Evil and good doesn't exist, there is only smart and stupid people.
Adam Stewart
No. Absolutely no evidence apart from manufactured bullshit which doesn't even hold after a cursory scrutiny.
I am no fan of that idiot Dubya and his war criminal mate Cheney, but it was nothing to do with them.
Matthew Martin
That bit is not steel.
Ethan Edwards
Christopher Jenkins
Not only jet fuel burned there, clever man!
Noah Taylor
Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily proofs. Go ahead and prove it!
Cooper Fisher
Jonathan Kelly
Faking it would obviously be a massive undertaking. It would be much, much easier to just plant the idea in a couple of jihadis' heads. If they succeed, yay, if they fail, find some more jihadis and try again.
Juan Brown
BigAssSpikyRedPill=
Prism+5Eyes.
The .gov have been intercepting data at a hypercommercial rate since they were intercepting telegrams at the borders.
Now its moved digital.
the .net back bones are split and recorded.
meh,
It was also happening pre-9/11.
Meh.
the only difference is the data analaysis.
Most of it was hand collated. Meaning a PERSON needed to review the emails,review the phone numbers,read the texts, work out who was the recipient etc.
(That has now gone digital, think facebook, linkdin etc. networking + some nifty AI)
Inter organisational sharing was strict and fairly rare.
Prism tapping was Above Top Secret(heh)
No-one wanted to show their capabilities.
The israelies also did it.
Who happened to have a High Value Individual in NYC who facilitated funding Mossad spies/informants. - gave him a breif heads up.
He got insurance.
So, thats the facts, and it runs like this:
The .gov knew something was going to happen. chatter of a 'pilot' - removed guns from cockpits fearing a self attack and wanted it to be stoppable.(think french alps)
Couldnt tell everyone in usa, :oh hi, heads up for planes falling out of the skies!" - terrorists would insta-win, public disaster - riots "cant .gov keep me safe?" etc.
Heard chatter it was imminent . So .gov ran the military 'exercise' to keep a lookout for the wayward plane.
As actual info re the ACTUAL ATTACK chatter was secret (owing to source) flight control wasn't let in on the real mission (that it wasn't training) hence the delay in military response.
Israel had mega taps and heard some shit was going down NOW and alerted the HVI to avoid work.
He called in and had the office closed for maintanance - to save his staff. He couldn't raise a alarm without showing Israels hand.
But muh jet fuel and beamz??
yeah well, thats where shit gets spikey.
(TBC>)
Nathaniel Cooper
Jonathan Adams
FDNY got as many people out as possible.
Also feds crawled it.
Determined it was unsafe to stand.
(get some jenga and pull a shitload out of one side)
That building was gonna topple and take out another block.
So: Evac the lower floors. and dump some charges.
Mil demolitions are not a thing to laugh at.
Thats serious .biz.
The big decision was made to drop the last of the towers.
It probably could have been much worse if they didn't.
Someone somewhere had to make a really big call that day.
TL:DR - gad guys hit towers. it was an attack.
Your .Gov tried to minimize risk primarily, then minimize damage eventually.