Anyway, can jet fuel melt steel beams or what?

Anyway, can jet fuel melt steel beams or what?

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No, it can't.

No they become very malleable though
You could bend a bar of steel with your finger if you wanted

can a sand nigger melt a germans heart?

commercial airplanes haven't run on "jet fuel" since the late 1970s

No,
but we just need him to make her wet

A wood fire can melt steel if given sufficient airflow and a chimney effect.

Above 400 Celsius steel rapidly loses its strength.

Yeah remember on 9/11 when the Towers became molten and the streets of New York ran with literal lava?

Yes, it melts steel to the ground at free fall speed after an hour or so.

NOBODY says that jet fuel melts steel beams. This is an idiotic strawman argument. But it is absolutely true that an uncontrolled fire can weaken steel, Rosie.

To the point where it falls at free fall speed, whilst bringing down untouched buildings around it. What can't jet fuel do?

The (((beams))) were not made of steel. Beams of light can't melt.

You don't even need jet fuel. Structural steel beams melt in fires all the time.

None of the towers fell at "free fall" speed (including WTC7) and several building around the WTC Plaza were heavily damaged or destroyed by the collapsing buildings.

The phrase "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" has nothing to do with the collapse itself, it has everything to do with the fact that the beams were turned into pools of molten steel and stayed that way for days, the heat even being picked up by satellite. The question is how? Since jet fuel doesn't even burn as hot as kerosene, and kerosene can't melt steel either. Any talk of the heat weakening the beams just shows a complete misunderstanding of the meaning of the phrase.

God the people who argue against this shit are autistic.
>Muh structural integrity is weakened tho
Fuck off, there was molten steel on the goddamn street. That is the whole point of the argument. Not
>Can a fire really take down a steel built tower?
Which ofc is yes but that isn't the fucking point.

>nigger trying to be edgy
sad

None of that is actually true. There was no molten steel and the NASA images didn't show temperatures hot enough to melt steel in any event. There was molten aluminum, which certainly would have occurred at those temperatures, but no molten steel.

Tesla technology used to bring em down

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No, but they can weaken the connecting joints between the outer wall's support columns and the floor beams, causing the floors to give way and leaving the outer columns unconnected to the central core, greatly weakening the overall structure and eventually leading to total collapse.

Oh, those half melted "aluminum" girders dripping molten metal? Thanks NIST.

>The high-temperature phenomena at Ground Zero are documented by various sources: Bechtel engineers, responsible for safety at Ground Zero, wrote in the Journal of the American Society of Safety Engineers: “The debris pile at Ground Zero was always tremendously hot. Thermal measurements taken by helicopter each day showed underground temperatures ranging from 400ºF to more than 2,800ºF.”

The fact that high-temperature phenomena were an important issue at Ground Zero is underscored by the large number of thermal images acquired: images by SPOT, MTI, AVIRIS/NASA, “Twin Otter”/U.S. Army, and at least 25 images by EarthData, taken between Sept. 16 and Oct. 25. In addition, temperature measurements by helicopter were taken each day, and the firefighters used onsite sensors too.

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What about the falling molten steel while the towers were standing. It was pouring out of the building and did not look like aluminum. Like a river of molten steel coming out of the window.

NO
pic related

Might , MIGHT explain the top section, but would have stopped or slid off the top.
but not crush everything below it a free fall speed.

Can jet fuel turn buildings to dust?

Image check it

NOW LOL to who ever believes a single plane took down a tower built to withstand bigger planes with full loads of explosives

Comments disabled, figures, this guy is a fucking retard.

Okay. Show me the metal composition tests that prove that any molten STEEL was identified at Ground Zero for up to six weeks after the collapse of the towers. I'll wait.

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The one that had two giant buildings fall on it.

It was aluminum. It was pouring out right at the location where the aircraft (mostly made out of aluminum) had come to rest on the floor.

Muh dick melts pussy

okay

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Nope
pic related
look at all the damage
nothing fell on building 7

No, but a plant going 300 Miles an hour will rek pretty much anything

pay no attention to the known mosad agents surrounded by boxing of detonator cables in the WTC a month before they fell.
Pay no attention at all.

lol, looks like they raised the building like it was sim city or some shit

Feels more and more like 9/11 is the new Holocaust. Nvr444get

what's with the black blob?

Dropping the Hebrew hammer over heah.

i dunno why there are still debates about an obvious controlled demolition?

no
aluminum hits steel
like fire a bullet at concrete
bullet gets wrecked
the figure blacked out in the middle needs zero attention.
climbing harnesses for elevator shafts...

>Fuck off, there was molten steel on the goddamn street.

Where?

not boxes of detonator cable

It's telling that you showed the ground view instead of the overhead.

No, but a massive fire can, especially when it's being blasted by high winds.
Don't believe me? Take a steel pipe and attach it to a hair dryer, put the pipe in a fire and keep feeding the fire for a couple hours.. You do it right and you can melt small amounts of steel, not just red hot I'm talking about melting. This is something anyone can test themselves.

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I still don't understand why NONE of the other buildings collapsed except for this perfect deadass smoked scopamine dropping bullshit.

What kind of dirt/insurance can you have to just fucking drop a building? Shit!

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They did. WTC3 was destroyed when the South Tower fell on it. WTC6 was destroyed by both towers. WTC4 and WTC5 were damaged beyond repair. St Nicholas Church was crushed. WTC7 was hit by debris from the falling Twin Towers and damaged.
You guys don't seem to be aware that several buildings were destroyed. How do you know the entire conspiracy wasn't centered around destroying the WTC Marriott instead of WTC7?

extra fire protection even........

The steel girders were literally melted there guy.

Idiot.
explain why the top didn't slide off and instead took the path of most resistance?

checkmate faggot

The complete opposite of your retarded fantasy, actually.

>n 1971, New York City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time, asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor of the World Trade Center towers.

foxnews.com/story/2001/09/14/asbestos-could-have-saved-wtc-lives.html

fire department still spraying water on ground zero 2 weeks after the demolition.

Why does everybody wants it to melt like in a cheap movie?
It's sufficient if it is weakened, that's why nobody wanted to send in the fireteams when that flat in britain was still active.

That was cut after collapse doofus
to easen deconstruction

Try it for yourself and find out

looks more like it was cut with thermite

also see the damage this neighboring building took?

for some reason it is about 20x as much damage as building 7 and it didn't free fall into its footprint
or any of the other none wtc buildings.
see

Yes, the metal turned red hot at those temperatures. It's not "molten". Don't you think it would be dripping everywhere?
The second picture is from the recovery effort, stupid. They absolutely cut columns when they were clearing the debris.

Just to clarify, this is what you believe, correct?

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What would a controlled demolition of WTC7 accomplish? How does it meaningfully advance any theory?

>something falling at free fall speed
OMG IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY THEN

Check this out, most comprehensive doc on the matter still remains undebunked youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M Get woke.

No, but it can deform them.

Larry being lucky

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Here you can see molten steel literally pouring out of the tower.

How do you know it's molten steel?

I don't think people understand how incredibly heavy the building is. Gravity pulls down, not sideways.

I never understood the jet fuel and steel meme either. The steel never needed to melt. It just needed to get hot enough to bend enough for the weight above it.

If you put enough heat on the suspension springs on your car they will lose their ability to support the weight of the vehicle without melting. What we call a Mexican drop job.

Car weighs 3000lbs being heald up by 15lbs of springs. The car drops straight down, not sideways.

Now imagine 30,000 tons being heald up by a fraction of the weight in steel.

Lol what does that prove?

When millions of pounds of shit gets compressed it gets hot.

I think other people are implying thermite or some other steel melting conspiracy

It's aluminum from the plane's fuselage. That's the area on the floor where the bulk of the wreckage would have come to rest. It's spilling out because the trusses are giving away.

Yeah, they're talking about the magic thermite that keeps burning hot for weeks after it cuts steel, unlike regular, known thermite.
This is the point in the discussion with Truthers where they go into science fiction.

Come on Sup Forums put those detective skills to work. You were able to find a flag in the middle of nowhere by looking at clouds and time of day you can solve this.

yes
under the right conditions
of course

If your car was several stories tall, and one of the springs gave out, do you think the weight of it would shift and cause this ridiculous looking car to topple over sideways, or would all of the other springs simultaneously collapse at the same precise time so that the car falls straight down onto its wheels?

tldr; your comparison is shit.

nope

that's liquid shit

well there was thermite

but not intentional

much of those planes were in fact, aluminum

that alum. was smashed and shattered and melted to bits with the crash and fire (to say nothing of the alum and other stuff in the buildings and office things within), which with all of the iron/etc in the structures did indeed produce some thermite, incidentally

yes it can
notice he didnt specify conditions

they just create a fake discussion and argue amongst themselves

dustification is wierd

Perhaps the other springs cannot function without the one that collapsed?

>
> falls at free fall speed
As opposed to what? Mach 1?

Steel doesn't have to melt to become pliable. This has been one of the big lies that people bought into.
Now that doesn't mean it couldn't have been an inside job of some sort, there are some interesting theories.
But people talking about Jet fuel and steel end up sounding like massive retards.
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>unlike regular, known thermite.

Here's the vid of the lab testing done on the thermite found at ground zero, the red line is the energy release of known thermite, the blue is the energy release of the nano thermite found at ground zero.

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Also BYU did extensive lab tests on the molten metal from ground zero which was found to be iron and steel.

See and

You do know that fire spreads and jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning in this building rite

LIQUID STEEL
WAS FOUND
IN THE WRECKAGE

That is the point of the claims. Also thank you based leaf.

Of course they cannot, they would certainly also fail.

Would this come after the weight has shifted the instant the first one broke causing this retarded example car to fall over? Or is it more likely that they all fail simultaneously before any other forces come into play causing the car to fall straight down?

Wooden desks, carpet and drywall can't melt steel beams.

KEK

Absolutely impossible.

Where is the melted steel?

They literally can.

>The question is how?
Friction. How much kinetic energy do you think is contained in a collapsing sky scraper?