>Flag Why am I not surprised? Yeah broh NatSocs who worship tradition and hertitage are total bolskevick leftists am i rite?! Democrats are the real racists
On the sideline fuck nazi larpers
Samuel Murphy
Bump
Adrian Anderson
Im a turk
Caleb Hernandez
>be German >tanks breaks down, can't repair tank because SUPERIOR GERMAN ENGINEERING means we need to upgrade our tanks as often possible so there's 4000000 models of tanks and none of the parts are compatable >Call air support to shoot allied bombers, it takes 30 minutes to get there because Hitler demanded bombers get the few available jet engines even though jet engines are are more useful on fighters and we need fighters to defend the country >Fighters finally get here, they're all shot down thanks to allied radar which wasn't destroyed because the axis bombed everything a little instead of destroying a few targets outright, leaving them easily repaired by the allies >oh well, at least we can fall back right? Nope, muh führer says no retreat. The retreat still happens but it's little more than a disorganized route since there is no formal retreating, leaving so few survivors it's impossible to regroup >But Moscow is about to fall so it's ok, only the führer just ordered you to go south and take Stalingrad purely because it has Stalin's name in it >Oh well, not like it will cost you the war or anything >And even if it did not like those kikes will get a country out of this or something
Why does Sup Forums like Nazi Germany again?
Robert Martin
Bump
Jonathan Bennett
You have to go back.
John King
"Duty is oppression." "Responsibility is racism." This is pure gold, user.
Ryan Taylor
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset). In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
Luke Jackson
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
See also:
>Private property in the industry of the Third Reich is often considered a mere nominal provision without much substance. However, that is not correct, because firms, despite the rationing and licensing activities of the state, still had ample scope to devise their own production and investment profiles. Even regarding war-related projects, freedom of contract was generally respected; instead of using power, the state offered firms a number of contract options to choose from. There were several motives behind this attitude of the regime, among them the conviction that private property provided important incentives for increasing efficiency.
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel) ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
Hunter Williams
let me guess gommie
Jaxson Hill
Thank god for this thread, the board is full of trash right now. Hail victory! >captcha: stop nord Even the fucking captcha is against me!
Bentley Barnes
Ich habe nur den deutschen Pass lol
Nathaniel Barnes
the memes are true
James Price
Guy on the right side is still white skinned though
Angel Martin
>think's "white" is a skin color lol
Mason Hernandez
Wdym user.
Evan Jenkins
Then stop calling us shitskin then
Blake Brooks
Then stop having shit-colored skin.
Isaac Jones
When is /nsg/ going to change it's pasta to make it more appealing to people?
Ethan Lopez
>Stop calling us shit skin Not unless you get out of Europe.
Camden Evans
are you retarded?
Isaac Morales
It changes all the time, if you were one of us and not a shill you'd know that and never ask such stupid things.
>Wdym user Are the Japanese "white" because their skin is the same shade as the average European? "White" is a word denoting caste in colonial culture, its not a description of a color. It refers to those of European racial extraction that haven't miscegenated. Its a modern misunderstanding to think it refers to color.
No, I'm not a roach shitstain.
Dylan Torres
LMAO no allah created the world for us muslims, i live where the fuck i want. Your artificial borders don't mean jackshit to me.
Carson Foster
Proving once more, Muslims can never be natsoc.
Nicholas Green
Exactly user. I mistook you for a different type of poster. Godspeed.
Samuel Davis
they will when the racewar commences
Nicholas Phillips
That's funny, considering faggots like you like to kill your own over those "artificial boarders."
Your god can't stop or do anything, 5.56 on the other hand, well, shall we test?
Lucas Nelson
BUMPING
Owen Bell
BAMP
Kayden Bell
any other unexpectedly NatSoc-friendly imageboards?
there's Wizchan.org for sure since people don't suspect much of NEETs. A lot of them are in the know despite how depressed some of them are. Parts of cripple chan comes to mind too but eh that one's a bit obvious
Bump too, I guess.
William Adams
>waizardchan >natsoc wut
Charles Harris
you know that things are bad when even the wizards are pissed off
Parker Turner
Legit Question, what would you define as National Socialism?
Matthew Wilson
>wizards getting into natsoc I have trouble wrapping my mind around that tbhfam.
Ayden James
Bump! WOKE WORLD NOW
Charles Barnes
Racial nationalism, anti-usury, anti-class perspective on social order, anti-egalitarianism, workers and owners unified in capitalist production, strong warrior culture central to national identity. Kind of a rough rundown, but you probably get the idea.
Nicholas Jones
it's more likely than you think. A lot of wizards are now unhappy NEETs and wageslaves for ZOG after they've grown up beyond the /r9k/ incel phase. They want change. They want more. They want a future, and that future means having a system that allows for wizards to be wizards in peace. No other system can really offer them such an opportunity
Basically, a lot of wizards are waking up
Juan Davis
>Then stop calling us shitskin then
Yes, mein roacher
Owen Flores
NAZBOL EMPIRE
Xavier Butler
I guess I tend to associate the wizards more with the /r9k/ stereotype, which is often anti-natsoc with pozzed jewish ideas like "Hitler was a feminist" and other bluepilled retarded memes.
William Ortiz
at first, yes, it really was /r9k/ 2.0. That was a long time ago now.
But things change, and they've been trying to distance themselves from /r9k/ for years. The times are changing and unlikely allies are popping up all over the place
Sebastian Murphy
Well that sounds really positive. I hope they can use Natsoc as a philosophy to drive them to change themselves for the better. My sense of that place was that it had a lot of really depressed people. Natsoc helped me change for the positive in a lot ways: rediscover spirituality and faith, become much more ordered and disciplined, see my life as a mission rather than just a "condition", etc. I hope it helps them.
Mason Ramirez
thanks. And yes, depression is still quite rampant but that much is to be expected by the current state of things. In many ways the moment they realize their depression was not entirely caused by themselves and instead heavily facilitated by (((them))), the moment some wizards go full 1488* and turn their life around
*may not breed though, they're strictly celibate and that's ok. At least people, nation, and fatherland are protected
Ethan Jackson
Hey, as long as it increases their personal agency and will to confront life and conquer it, hail victory wizard komeraden!
Leo Wright
hail, brother
Xavier Long
thanks for these threads fellas. what is the natsocs opinion on those equifax leaks? how is that kinda shit sorted out in your vision for the country?
Ethan Sullivan
Not long to go boys, not long to go.
Cameron Cook
Hang the hook nosed cunts responsible, burn any of our own that resort to such cowardly tactics for advancement.
Jack Turner
>woman with a music theory degree being made head of security Yeah, no, women can be heads of child rearing, not data security for an entire credit market. Also, no jewish credit markets under natsoc.
When considering the Black Pill, I listen to this. If I were back there, I'd be pushing this on people.
Japan will stand with you again.
Jaxson Martinez
Who designed all these images? Really well done
Jack Taylor
An amusing contradiction to see a godless and materialistic philosophy which derives mind from matter and implicitly contradicts freedom of will talk about "empowering yourself." Naziism is about the falsehood that your lineage is what makes you powerful or not powerful, good or bad.
Jeremiah Butler
>a godless and materialistic philosophy You're talking about communism, natsoc is the opposite of this description. > which derives mind from matter Wrong. >and implicitly contradicts freedom of will Triumph of will, you illiterate fuck. There's a massive books archive in the OP, lurk more before you post brainlet. >Naziism is about the falsehood that your lineage is what makes you powerful Are you denying that race is real, and races aren't equal?
Brayden Butler
>You're talking about communism, natsoc is the opposite of this description.
You deny either directly or implicitly freedom of will and the soul, because you say that blood and descent is what ultimately makes you what you are. The only difference between you and Marxists is that you ascribe people's actions primarily to genetics and they to the environment. Both of you all but deny moral agency. Hitler said that there were no good Jews and that there never could be.
Michael Burleigh contrasted Hitler's public pronouncements on Christianity with those in Table Talk, suggesting that Hitler's real religious views were "a mixture of materialist biology, a faux-Nietzschean contempt for core, as distinct from secondary, Christian values, and a visceral anti-clericalism."
>Triumph of will, you illiterate fuck. There's a massive books archive in the OP, lurk more before you post brainlet.
Doesn't matter what you call some film if you implicitly deny it by your philosophy which ascribes personality and character and virtue to blood rather than to choice.
>Are you denying that race is real, and races aren't equal?
I am "conscious of the difference between men and races" but I also deny that "one race is inherently superior to another." Just like Enoch Powell. If you take ten million Africans and import then into Belgium then it will become Africa, but if Belgium becomes 2% African and then those Africans assimilate I don't believe that the national stock is in any way "tainted."
>You deny either directly or implicitly freedom of will and the soul, because you say that blood and descent is what ultimately makes you what you are You're arguing directly or implicitly that there are only individualistic souls, that there is no such thing as racial soul, that you are metaphysically divorced from your ancestral like, from the blood of your forebears. This is neither the teaching of scripture, nor of any spiritual tradition predating Christianity. You're speaking "out of your ass". >Michael Burleigh Literally who? >Hitler's table talk The most fabricated and falsified source related to the third reich, well done. Like every other ranting loon who drank the koolaid, you start with a reference to the table talks: ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/2002/nov02/carrier.php >Doesn't matter what you call some film Do you know where the film derives it's title from, brainlet? >your philosophy which ascribes personality and character and virtue to blood rather than to choice Cite one Natsoc adherent who denied the existence of individual choice. >inb4 you never do Fuck off moron.
Cameron Jenkins
>You're arguing directly or implicitly that there are only individualistic souls, that there is no such thing as racial soul, that you are metaphysically divorced from your ancestral like, from the blood of your forebears.
You contradict yourself. Spirit and matter are two different substances. If you derive spirit from blood then you do not believe in spirit. Clearly there are differences between nations but the point is that you say that, if Belgium (say) were to assimilate a 3% African population, then its national stock would become perennially "tainted" and "inferior." I believe in preserving the national stock as far as in me lies but I am going to advocate for the forcible expulsion of the good and upstanding and patriotic non-white citizens here who do not want to leave the country of their own accord. Why? Because although I recognize the differences between nations as a whole I am also able to recognize the differences between individuals. There are some blacks and Jews who are not only perfectly British but also of an exceedingly high moral and intellectual character.
You can deny the Table Talk all you like but you cannot deny that Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant were Hitler's Bible, and that if you ascribe intelligent and personality to genetics you do not really believe in a soul nor in freedom of will. You cannot escape the fact that such a point of view necessitates that DNA makes us what we are rather than our own choices.
Also it doesn't say much for you if you cannot defend your philosophy without stooping to coarse language and insults from the very beginning.
Austin Watson
>but I am going to advocate for
read: I am not going to advocate for
Logan Bell
>You contradict yourself. No, I don't, you fucking retard. Before you criticise something, you necessarily have to study it. I know you haven't done this, because I know how to attack this subject, and you're not identifying anything particular. All you offer are vague generalities and bizarre distortions that sound like they came from History Channel docu-dramas. Fucking READ FIRST before you post, you obnoxious fuck. >Spirit and matter are two different substances. The blood testifies, friendo. We could have a lengthy theological discussion here about the spiritual nature of blood, of man's blood or christ's blood, of the spiritual and the material, but you speak with a forked tongue so it would be tedious and amount to nothing. One thing is certain, scripture teaches us that: God is a spirit (John 4:24), He must be worshipped in spirit (John 4:24), man's soul and spirit are spirit (Rom. 8:16), sin is a spiritual concept (Rom. 7:14), and believers are spiritually baptized (1Cor. 12:13). Therefore, sin must be spiritually redeemed with spiritual blood (Acts 20:28). Also, covenants with God are kept with blood, and part of our spiritual inheritance; God literally makes pacts with you through your ancestors, and with your descendants through you.
> if Belgium (say) were to assimilate a 3% African population, then its national stock would become perennially "tainted" and "inferior." What does "tainted" mean to you? Average IQ decreasing? Spread of MAO-A violence genes? If there's a 15 point difference between a space-faring civilization and one that has an average vocabulary of 600 words, an no concept of arithmetic or basic morality like "rape" and keeping promises (concepts that had to be inserted in African cultures by European colonizers) you don't care? >tl;dr
You're not here to take these issues seriously, its all your feels. Read the pastebin before you post.
Joshua Sullivan
>Fascism "no"
Carter Clark
>Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant were Hitler's Bible I've heard this several times in several threads the last few days. Same shill repeating himself.
Adam Ross
What does /nsg/ think of the invasion of Czechoslovakia? Was it justified or not? Why?
Brayden Morris
You do not understand the arguments I present. God is a soul or spirit, and man is a soul or spirit. God thinks, wills, knows, reasons &c., just as man does---without the need for a body. The mind is fundamentally distinct from the body. Hence making arguments about genetics and IQ as if these things must necessarily be the case is a materialistic argument that implicitly denies the existence of the soul and of moral agency.
There was a time when Northern Europe was barbaric when the East was flourishing. Nations rise or fall according to their cultivation of the intellect and of the arts and sciences and their moral virtue. It is not because of their genetics. Or else how will you account for such phenomena as the rise and fall of classical Greece----from Plato and Demosthenes to abject servitude under the Ottoman heel? You are saying that "What is, must be."
Observe that I am not arguing that we ought not to be nationalistic nor for mass immigration nor for open borders. I am simply arguing against racial absolutism and racial determinism. I say that men and races are just as good as they choose to be---that they make their destiny by their choices not by their DNA.
I must say that it is rather curious if you consider yourself a Christian man (which I infer by your quoting of Biblical verses) to see the way you conduct yourself. You do not behave like a gentleman. Did you ever read, "But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth." (Colossians 3:8.) Again, "Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person." (Colossians 4:6.)
What do you have to say to the marriage of Moses with an Ethiopian woman in Numbers 12:1? The fact that God turned the skin of Miriam leprous and white as a punishment for her objection thereto?
Jayden Foster
>le table talks maymay You know that even kike historians consider that book to be bullshit right? Even fucking Kikepedia considers it to be a highly questionable source.
Luke Hughes
If the Volksdeutsch had been allowed to leave and join the Reich, and if the Czechs hadn't violated the Treaty of Saint Germain by altering their constitution to disenfranchise the German minority, then I would have said no. The treatment of the Volksdeutsch in both Czech and Polish territory justified intervention by the Germans.
Elijah Gonzalez
Oh yeah, I'm well aware of the massacres in Poland at the time. But I just need a redpill on Czechoslovakia, since not many people talk about it.
Jacob Richardson
Friendly reminder to STOP WATCHING PORN
Dylan Phillips
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Carter Hill
I wonder what are those other parties in 1936 and 1938?
Colton James
They got wiped the fuck out under the Enabling Act. Which they themselves agreed to. So....
James Wood
>You do not understand the arguments I present. No, I understand them just fine. You have a shallow understanding of the subject matter and seem to be riding on rhetorical flourishes to bluster past that fact. For this reason you stated no specifics in your opening criticisms, and your rebuttals address none of my points for the last two posts at least. Each new post is a semantic contortion in the sense of the last one. Your arguments are all appeals to emotion. >There was a time when Northern Europe was barbaric when the East was flourishing The East notoriously stagnated after turning down the evolutionary path of "hydraulic bureaucracies", while the West has evolved many orders of complexity beyond what the East ever achieved. There really is no comparison to be made except in the fever dreams of Liberals and Leftoids who fetishize the Other out of their innate Oikophobia, as Roger Scruton calls it. >Nations rise or fall according to their cultivation of the intellect and of the arts and sciences and their moral virtue. Society is a biological construct; societies cannot rise beyond what they have the underlying biological infrastructure to achieve. IQ is highly hereditary. Temperament is highly hereditary. Unless you feel like denying evolution entirely. You've already denied that God had any intentionality in the creation and separation of tribes, you might as well cover all bases and completely deny secular scientific perspectives while we're at it. >You do not behave like a gentleman. I deal in good faith with those of good faith, but you're a sophist and do not yourself keep fidelity in the traditions or values that your evoke. You came in bad faith, do you expect me to pretend otherwise? >Did you ever read, "But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth." (Colossians 3:8.) You piss on the scriptures you quote; go fuck yourself, shill. ;^)
Justin Jenkins
What are some inspirational quotes by Hitler about bettering yourself as a person, to help your community around you? I'm going to be making a collage of pics of inspirational quotes for my room to help motivate and remind me to better myself as a person.
Thomas Howard
>You've already denied that God had any intentionality in the creation and separation of tribes
Actually I just said to you "Observe that I am not arguing that we ought not to be nationalistic nor for mass immigration nor for open borders. I am simply arguing against racial absolutism and racial determinism."
Again, I can tell that you don't really understand the arguments I present because you have not addressed a single one of them. The trouble is that your mind is predisposed to be so hostile towards anybody who questions you that your anger and prejudice blinds you whatever they might be saying. You are not able to be dispassionate and candid.
>IQ is highly hereditary. Temperament is highly hereditary.
Children tend to resemble their parents, but not always. These things are highly mutable. Neuroplasticity and epigenetics show that hereditary is far more complex than a simplistic understanding of the matter would like make it. There is a reason why the Swiss were once among the shortest people in Europe and are now among the tallest, and Polish, Italian, and Greek immigrants to the U. S. in the '20s had IQs at the level of the 80s, and sometimes as low as the 70s. I wonder what the I. Q. of the ancient Britons was in their barbarous and cannibalistic state? The world is not clear-cut into the haves and the have-nots. Most great men have been from humble origins, and "History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up."
If you actually believe in a soul then what one man of a race may do any man of that race may do. He has proven that the body is endowed with the requisite "hardware," and so that, if that race is in a state of abject failure, only the will is wanting.
Noah Collins
bumpin
David Gonzalez
Return to your own country roach and improve it THEN you might get some respect. Until then you are a pest to the country that is foolishly giving you a free life.
Jack Rivera
So finding out that MLK Jr was a Communist makes his "I hold these truths to be self evident: that all men were created equal" speech have a completely different meaning to it
Where the fuck has America gone in the passed 70 years
Lincoln Young
I really don't know, it frightens me. My only hope that things get better is Trump.
Wyatt White
bump for wankin ted
Hudson King
Just a reminder that NatSoc's are honorary niggers.
Jaxon Parker
Trump is a great first step, and the first real showing of our strength as a new generation with re-evaluated beliefs. It also helps that the left keep flipping their absolute shit constantly no matter what he does. They're actively destroying themselves, and driving the masses to us. Anything else our President accomplishes is just icing on the cake.
Angel Cooper
test
Josiah Jackson
What is a nigger to you anan?
Josiah Clark
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