OK so now I am 100% certain smart phones are spying on us

With the new iPhone you'll be unlocking your device with your face.

Say goodbye to trying to line your thumb up with the Home button.

The iOS 11 leak has confirmed you'll be able to unlock your phone just by looking at it.

Apple's calling it FaceID and we've already got a look at some of the animations you'll be seeing to set it up.

abc.net.au/news/2017-09-12/iphone-what-to-expect-from-apple-keynote/8891122

There is absolutely no reason to include this feature unless you want to create a facial recognition database for the purposes of spying on people. I was skeptical about the fingerprint unlocking technology but this removes all doubt. There is no way this is superior to a simple 4 digit pin number. Suppose you are wearing a motorbike helmet or a dust mask? Suppose you got in an accident and half your face is missing? You can't unlock your phone to call an ambulance?

Why would any business spend millions of dollars researching this technology when the problem of locking your phone was already perfected with a pass code? Why do they want our fingerprints and facial ID? There is no reason unless they are spying on us.

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opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/riccardo-paparusso/kojeve’s-idea-of-end-of-history-philosophical-key-to-european-
marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/kojeve-s.htm
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medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism
sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2017/sessions/what-if-privacy-becomes-a-luxury-good-davos-2017
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Wow no shit?

You didn't read PC/Computing 20 years ago where they were pushing a thumb scan on Thinkpads to secure your data?

Eh, Android has been doing that for at least 4-5 years. I just don't use it because it doesn't work all that well.

remember the conspiracy newsgroups where they were convinced google was an NSA operation?

Google got CIA seed funding, not NSA. I get DARPA funding and other funding. Google wants me to work for them. Big whoop.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's how the Jews use infinite money to make the cattle goyim work for them.

Intelligence agencies wouldn't be doing their job properly if they weren't taking advantage of the biggest information collector on the planet.

That's correct. I'd fire any intelligence head not using every possible venue.

YOU
DON'T
SAY

Now instead of Canadian border police saying "Smart phone and passcode please" now they will just aim it at your face. At least with my old iphone my fake passcode opens an alternate more culturally appropriate me.

Alright, you're obviously leading me on, what's your larp?

Welcome to years ago?

>putting anything you care about on your cloudphone
I guess they'll find out one of my plane rides was late but I'd text after I got out of the airport.

THEY'RE TURNING THE FROGS GAY

Leading you to what? I'm not a larp. I don't even have a security clearance, which in retrospect I think was a good decision since now I don't have to worry about saying something I'm not supposed to say.

No shit. Sup Forums here, this has been known for fucking ever.

er, also this
Bump this thread.

They do that? I've never experienced this going to Canada. Theoretically the US can legally do this as well, but I've never seen it done.

Sorry, I probably inferred too much from your posts. You made it sound like you had some secret info or something.

You will never know the joy of just driving over to Canada and the friendly happy-go-lucky guy just wants to check one driver's license and hope you all enjoy your time there.

I've driven the Rainbow Bridge multiple times in to Ontario. It's like going to East Germany in both directions these days.

>They do that?
Yes they do. I've never had it happen on the American side but I'm sure they can if they want.

the screen now comes down practically to edge and they couldn't find a way to put the touchID sensor underneath it in a way that would still read prints so wa la face scan

It sucks. Nothing is worse than flying back in to the US and having to do face scans and retinal scans and stand around for an hour just for the final guy to take one look at me (I'm a white male) and wave me on through so he can spend his time on something more questionable.

Damn, I'm going to Calgary next week. What are they looking for? I just have a big folder of normie lewds on my phone.
Shit I bought the global entry meme pass and I still have to get the 3rd degree from some mexican who can't speak english.

It might help that I'm tall, I walk like this is my country and I don't give a shit (true on both counts). Or maybe they think I'm former military since I usually wear BDUs because they're cheap and effective.

>What are they looking for?
Illegal stuff I guess. On an iphone if you double tap you can see what they were looking for, if you remember to clear it. They look at everything.

Sup Forumsentleman here and I can confirm that these devices do indeed spy on you, but not through facial recognition unlock software. The real problem is the cellular modem which is a tiny chip on the board of the phone which is what allows you to send and receive calls and texts and do mobile data. This little chip is totally closed off with no good way to debug or verify it and most of the time they aren't even accessible through JTAG or other interfaces for firmware dumps, making research and reverse engineering nearly impossible. These modems are also not properly isolated, meaning that they can access stuff they shouldn't. Proper isolation means they talk to the processor, which talks to a kernel and abstraction layer. This put several layers of hardware and software between the modem and devices like the camera. Well, a majority of phones aren't isolated right and so this modem can access cameras, mics, RAM, and your internal storage directly over the cellular network. There's no way to shut it off unless you pull out the battery. Doesn't matter if you have an Android or iOS or Windows phone, they're all using closed off modems and baseband software made by Intel or Qualcomm.

Source: replicant.us/

TL;DR - your hardware is backdoored, stop using phones.

Oh, and Intel/AMD x86 chips contain the IME or PSP which are also hardware backdoors which can be accessed remotely.

One time the FBI executed a search warrant on one of my servers. They got one of the IT guys to do it for them and he didn't even try to hide his tracks properly.

Kind of funny what little they did look at.

I'm a tall white guy too, and I always make sure to call those spics 'sir' so it makes them feel powerful. I always get waved through, but you can tell they are looking for a reason to show you how much power and control they have.

>Just learning of this.
Your time is over old man.

Yeah a few of them are total powertrippers but even though I think the entire TSA should be disbanded, fired, and given the opportunity to do construction work under the supervision of the Army Corps of Engineers or something like that, most of them are just doing a job to make money.

I get great reactions after going through the naked body scanners when I politely mention to the person on the other side that they're going to get cancer standing next to that thing every day. You can tell sometimes by the look in their eyes that they already know.

Once again iphone is behind the times....galaxy s8 already has that.

Nice, that's actually a good idea. I've tried the opposite and gone out of my way to be nice to them. They light up when you do that because everyone is shitty to them, as they deserve.
Then again, I have pre-check and don't travel with much. I can get through the xray and metal detector in about 5 seconds if it isn't crowded.
>Toothpaste Stealing Assholes
>Thousands Standing Around
>etc.

This database already exists. If you travel out of the country, they've already built up this database, because every time I go through border control, it recognizes me and they just wave their hand to go through (They don't even care about my passport in some airports already). If you travel by plane, this is unavoidable. If you travel out of the country, you can't avoid this at all unless you enter the country through illegal means. They've already shared this database with clearme.com

Apple just wants to cash in on this with clearme.com. They're already charging money for this shit. I can already see them using their iphones to bypass wait lines at border check points. Then they're most likely going to sell this database for who knows what bullshit.

There are already programs that you can get without apple. I have global entry, it's $100 every 5 years and lets you skip the line, plus gives you tsa pre check for no extra charge.

Shit is bullshit, that's for sure. Traveling to the EU, it's quite pleasant with a few jokes from whatever border control. No probes, no facial scans.

Then when I fly back into the US, it's some sort of Minority Report bullshit. I get sad every time I have to fly back into the US because of it.

That's my point. Apple wants to cash in on it.

One of my favorite incidents was when I was at JFK the other month. Big zombie lines of people. Fucking two of like 8 isles open (what the fuck? they have the money to pay a beaner to run a drug dog around the dog walk for hours shouting at everybody to obey and not react but not even the grocery store ever has just two isles open?)

And then this one guy starts hustling a bunch of women wearing trash bags diagonally through the rope maze and these other TSA agents descend on him
>SIR SIR!
>SIR!
>SIR YOU CAN'T DO THAT SIR!
>SIR! WHO TOLD YOU TO DO THAT!
>SIR YOU CAN'T DO THAT!

And he's like
>they're "somebody's" family
and everybody backed off. lol

Like usual, Apple is years behind android

I see Mexican families being able to bypass the lines and xray bullshit. Then when I come up, "Oh it's a white guy, probe the fuck out of him!"

One time I had a connecting flight in Qatar. The muzzies just checked my passport, stamped it and let me on through.

Then on the way out my gate was the only gate you had to take your shoes off because it was back the US. Some old dude started yelling and complaining, bless him.

If you have a kid or something they'll put you in the metal detector right away. Otherwise you have to play the game to go through the metal detector. It depends on the staff.

One time recently they let some nigress and her niglet chip out for like 5 minutes straight to get through the metal detector, forcing everybody else who might have avoided the scanner to have to go through the scanner. Why not even just let somebody else in first if they're just going to chimp around 10 feet away until they're settled enough to come through?

Oh well. Apparently I have magic pants because the computer always says there's something in my pocket. Last time a big muscular nigger grabbed all up and down my leg and ass :3

I work for an oil company and spend a lot of time in West Africa. Shortly after we started doing the body scanners the West African city I go to got one (probably a gift from the US taxpayer) and only made Americans go through it. Luckily they had a 7' tall buck waiting to give you a rub down afterwards. Good times.

Have you ever noticed how you'll be talking about something in a conversation (offline) and you then start seeing ads for that thing? Yeah....

Did he throw the shoe at the US security at least? That's another thing I hate now traveling back to the US. They've expanded the security check points where you end up going through 2 or more checks before you board you plane now. My last flight out of Munich had 3 security check points, last point was random searches and ID checking.

It's almost better just to take a flight to Mexico instead, cross the border and then take another flight home. There's probably less bullshit at the Mexican border bridge than at the airport.

Yep. That's why I wiped my phone, loaded up lineage OS instead. I removed Google Play Store and use f-droid instead, with Yalp if I need anything from the play store. I still don't feel safe with Android. Google completely destroyed my trust in them, even with the opensource version of Android.

Then you have Google devs hyping up the next Android closed source releases, how it's going to be better for security.

Hopefully we'll get more Sailfish supported phones.

Meh, I have project fi and just installed oreo. They know what I'm doing regardless.

Honestly why do you even think you're trying to hide anything when you're using your phone? This is the thing I just can't get my mind around.

Except for that the children in my family would find it, I'd load it right up with shock porn and big dicks for them to look at.

I don't, I know it's all out there.

>now I am 100% certain smart phones are spying on us
now?
why not after the snowden leaks when it became open official public known absolute fact that smart phones are spying on us

there's no conspiracy, it's openly admitted now they're doing it all.

and i think they want us to know. to form a panopticon of sorts. the snowden thing all planned perhaps or allowed

>lagdroid user detected

>panopticon
noice leaf

I forgot where I saved the text file full of URLs I used to drop all the time, but one of them was a German study where they had an animated map of everything this one volunteer did, and what was crazy to me is how shocking this was to people upon review. This was prior to the fake Merkel outrage that they were tapping her phone, and prior to my own personal involvement with getting people to want to install software on their phones to be tracked in much more depth than ever before so they can eventually have a personal sexbot.

I have a Pixel, now I can watch pip Youtube videos while I shitpost.
>Feels pretty good

How are Jewgle's phones?

I've had 3 now, been pretty happy with them.

The thing is: what can we do?

I mean I'm addicted to this thing. I use it for Sup Forums and porn and carry it with me all day.

Bastards...

don't buy apple

What can you do? The question is what are your objectives. Once you identify your objectives, then those dictate what to do. Mind control has been around in scientific format for over 100 years, and it's really not that complicated even though you have to go get a PhD in things if you want to engage in it professionally these days.

So one thing you can do is replace the dopamine reward system it provides with something else. There's nothing else you enjoy in life but pushing buttons on your phone to see the latest shitty and unrewarding post on Sup Forums? What do you yourself actually enjoy doing?

Shame, if only there was a solution to this.

Because this wasn't obvious ten years ago...

does japmoots mobile ads play on android too? I wouldn't mind them if they didn't fucking play audio

On webkit chrome you only get the bottom banner ad. Still irritating though. Jewgle makes it hard to install adblock on vanilla android though.

This is so they can link faces to phones at protests and arrest them after the fact.

They all look the same is the problem. That's why they're so bold.

Wait? So you could unlock someones phone just by holding a physical picture of their face in front of it?

the mark on 4head?

I believe they're using dual cameras so it's semi 3D and thus not fooled by a picture

>falling for the smart phone meme
>doesn't have multiple burner phones

On android, at least, you can tell it you have to blink to unlock.

>this user's right

What a new feature, did they stole it from Microsoft?

And you are retarded, you don't need to unlock phone to call ambulance.

>smartphones spying on us
yeah no shit, thank you detective fuckass

Good morning OP, prepare for Kojeve's "Hegelian" global historical synthesis of capitalism and communism.

>"The universal and homogeneous state is `good' only because it is the last (because neither war nor revolution are conceivable in it: mere `dissatisfaction' is not enough, it also takes weapons!)

>In the final state there naturally are no more `human beings' in our sense of an historical human being.The `healthy' automata are 'satisfied'(sports,art,eroticism,etc), and the `sick' ones get locked up. As for those who are not satisfied with their 'purposeless activity'(art etc), they are the philosophers(who can attain wisdom if they 'contemplate' enough).By doing so they become 'gods'.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Kojève
opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/riccardo-paparusso/kojeve’s-idea-of-end-of-history-philosophical-key-to-european-
marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/kojeve-s.htm
iep.utm.edu/kojeve/

medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism
sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
WEForum 2017:
weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2017/sessions/what-if-privacy-becomes-a-luxury-good-davos-2017

Are you stupid yankee? Wtf, if I lose my fingers in an accident how could I unlock my phone?

What good is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?

I am buying the iphone 8 the first week

You poorfags don't even have 6

I have a Pixel XL and will buy whatever is next. Different strokes my friend.