OP is right, We must conform to the standards and social norms decided by our opponents, Only then can we defeat them
Aiden Peterson
This. We also have to denounce racism
Aiden Howard
I am not fluent in graphics design or anything so personally I cant design shit but I was thinking along the lines of this.
Xavier Perry
i agree, OP. also i was thinking we should not use national flags anymore as it might offend our based allies in other countries. please use the united nations or EU flag from now on
Jose Lee
No.
John Gray
Exactly we cant get anywhere if the opposing side has the point that they can just call us nazis or white supremisist and are backed up by the fact that we use the same symbols, we have to seperate ourselfs from these symbols and create our own movement
Aaron Rodriguez
this atleast for america though as a global movment it would most likely be different
Adam Parker
which 6 states are (you) delete?
Charles Long
I feel as if the only point we could go back to using these symbols is when we have already won when we have convinced the masses and forced redpills down there throat to where they wake up to who the real enemy is.
Isaac Johnson
None recount its all 50 states
Wyatt Brown
does nobody else think this is a good Idea? if its stupid then I wont contribute anymore but really I feel like this is our best option
Levi Perez
kill yourself you fucking rat
Leo Nguyen
it strikes fear into the heart of the enemy. It is making a comeback and will soon be very popular again youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
Isaiah Peterson
I think that is very possible however in our current situation I believe that we our
outnumbered when it comes to representatives and attention. The media basically controls a
lot of peoples opinions as well as the celeberties etc when it comes to support we are running low and we need to reshape our
image that way people will stand behind us and we wont be instantly oughted as fucked up people.
Jeremiah Anderson
Well though all of this is correct and observant it really is irrelevant honestly imo. People won't act as long as they are comfortable and relatively safe. The Jews will never stop it will only get worse until people have nothing left to loose then they will be forced to pick a "team" communism or fascism. Centrists don't have armies desu, we have to way to counter the enemy they guard all the doors and hold all the keys. No, it will continue to get worse until people have nothing to lose then our movement will rise on it's own. People are mostly clannish at heart, whites will gravitate to the swastika like flies to shit when it begins. Nothing can save our nations they are Gotham City corrupted beyond rapier, revolution is inevitable and it is coming soon
Gavin Roberts
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Jaxon Gonzalez
Neo-Nazi delusion never ceases to amaze me. Not that I take issue with it. Continue to use your symbols. I don't want you wear masks.
Jayden James
Gee i wonder who made this thread enjoy your shekel
Evan Long
>I don't want you wear masks. >abduls first internet post
Luke Howard
Its like how elon musk said about tesla "eventually renewable energy is inevitable and tesla is just
there to speed up the process but with spacex it isn't and we have to look towards the future" all I
am trying to do is speed up the progress to increase the reaction by the people so that we
dont end up in 1984 in 20 years like elon I am just trying to speed up the process to make sure the
future isn't horrible for our people
Nathaniel Roberts
Virulent anti-semitism truly is a mental disorder.
Jack Scott
I am not a Neo Nazi, in fact I am a left leaning classical liberal and Buddhist. In fact they are LARPing degenerates racists with low IQ's real Nazi's were heroes however. I just see the writing on the wal, in fact I wrote a book about it. You got no idea what is coming my friend as I said it is inevitable youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
Cameron Ortiz
I understand your sentiments brother and sympathize and am also fighting desperately to prevent it however I do not see how we can. We have been crippled by design by very dark forces consuming the entire globe working to destroy us all
read this short thread
Juan Gonzalez
at this point I dont think its antisemitism I think its a worry that there are a minority (the jews)
incontrol of the liberal media and in our government the same problem happend in
africa I cant remember the country but the africans who lived there over threw the
government be cause a minority of the population controled the government over the
majority. Ill have to look up which country that It was but I believe the same thing can happen in the west.
Jordan Wood
Well here is tldr with images to support it
Our people are drugged indoctrinated and mentally crippled purposefully by the Jews betrayed by our own that were trusted to do their jobs and protect their people trying to claim it is solely their fault for what is happening is just disingenuous this has been planned and executed with precision. Just because the Jews didn't do it with guns and bullets like they communist revolution doesn't mean they aren't guilty all the same, no they are to blame and behind all of this
"When the conspirators get ready to take over the United States they will use fluoridated water and vaccines to change people's attitudes and loyalties and make them docile, apathetic, unconcerned and groggy. According to their own writings and the means they have already confessedly employed, the conspirators have deliberately planned and developed methods to mentally deteriorate, morally debase, and completely enslave the masses. They will prepare vaccines containing drugs that will completely change people. Secret Communist plans for conquering America were adopted in 1914 and published in 1953. These plans called for compulsory vaccination with vaccines containing change agent drugs. They also plan on using disease germs, fluoridation and vaccinations to weaken the people and reduce the population." (Impact of Science on Society, by Bertrand Russell) 1. Documented communist plot to introduce fluoride into our water supply 2. Fluoride makes you docile, sterile, lower IQ among a host of other things 3. Edward Bernays - Father of PR promotes fluoride in the water supply 4. Astronomical rise in Autism and drop in fertility
Joshua Harris
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Jace Wilson
According to Nazis every problem in the world can be attributed to Jews, not simply media influence, ethnocentrism, the Israeli Lobby, overrepresentation in subversive movements etc. They think that if you only removed them from society it would become a paradise.
Jaxon Roberts
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Zachary Williams
Don't give up brother, we do what we can. We will fight and we will win or die, we have no choice in this, We can only do what we can it our karma never give up hope
another reason we shouldn't use this symbolism although jewish influence is courupting a lot of our national values it is not the only problem. and we shouldn't just focus on this
Lincoln Stewart
>t.nigger
James Martinez
You are the last kind of abhuman to back chat me. You are either a fucking abo, mix breed or criminal exile. Best case scenario you are a emu that taught yourself human speech.
Parker Allen
>flag memes >t.nigger
David Edwards
Tbf they have a point, considering natsoc Germany reached the peak of human civilization up to this point after freeing themselves from the Jews Imagine a USA without Jewish influence 100% white (Jews brought the blacks over to racemix, 1965 immigration act done by Jews) No debt (Money would be printed debt free) No degeneracy (Porns all Jewish etc) No mental illness, or vastly reduced (Homosexuality normalization/transgenderism all Jewish constructs)
Liam Bailey
>Tbf they have a point, considering natsoc Germany reached the peak of human civilization up to this point after freeing themselves from the Jews
This is an utter fantasy. It was an economy based on warfare. Culturally speaking it produced nothing of real lasting value and practised mass indoctrination and censorship on a level unparalleled in human history. Had Shakespeare written Othello in Nazi Germany he would have been put in a concentration camp.
Had Naziism succeeded it would have collapsed before long and then the inevitable reaction to the other extreme of Communism would probably have brought on a new Dark Age of degeneracy even worse than the one which we are presently experiencing.
Connor Myers
They are still here In 1920s germany the bolshevics revolution fucked the german people
and turned berlin into a swamp of degeneracy sort of along the lines of how oregon, New York
, several parts of california, baltimore and DC, as well as chicago detroit, its almost like prophecy.
Joseph White
The same conditions that lead to WWII are still in motion, they were not defeated just postponed, soon they must be faced again, as I have said numerous times it is inevitable they will never stop, so we must fight or die, quite simple really
You are a propaganda mouthpiece and know nothing of truth my friend, nothing you have said to this point is accurate or enlightened. Not trying to insult you as you are learned academically you just haven't realized yet you are in the matrix or a Jew
Josiah Bailey
Nice PSYOP. Fuck the (((alt-right))).
Xavier Rogers
To be a "mouthpiece" you have to speak on behalf of another person or organization, whereas I only speak for myself.
I trust and hope that as you get more knowledge of history your opinions about this antisemitic and Jewish conspiracy stuff will be tempered into a more reasonable cast.
Wyatt Lewis
Yes Adolf hitler was truely a visonary but... the people who win control history.
The (((west))) has painted an image around him and his 3rd Reinch and I think it is time for the 4th to rise how ever we must convince the masses and right now
political tensions are tight so we need to be carefull that way people will join our side and before you know it we will have a full aryan bloodline in this country.
Now I don't condone violence yet but as of right now it is a propoganda war and an info war as alex jones would call it you need to convince people to join your side
then when the odds are against opposing views strike.
Luis Gomez
meh perhaps you have a point about being mouthpiece, does one's motive matter? I don't know. What if I told you everything you think you know is lie I can prove it to you conclusively? What if I also told you I can show you something you never thought imaginable? Would you want to see it?
Lincoln Rodriguez
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Gavin Jackson
What is I told you, you are in the matrix I can show you the code, or God whatever you want to call it, him or them. There is grand architect my friend and it all connected, but very few can ever find the ultimate truth, but it is there for anyone to see if they are wise and brave enough to seek it out
Christopher Cruz
>reddit spacing Nazi paraphernalia shocks normies
Cooper Scott
>Would you want to see it You're all talk.
Joshua Hernandez
Am I? Are you asking a question?
Cooper Sanchez
haha no, get gassed
Nicholas Rivera
It's pointless: From Pepe to the purple pigeon they all get branded as "hate symbols".
Nicholas Green
Why don't we just use a real american flag? It'd be a statement that America = white and you can call any liberal that objects "anti-american"
Joshua Anderson
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you." - Werner Heisenberg
I can show you where the rabbit hole ends and it is nothing short of mind bending... but there is someone there waiting
Cooper Brooks
It is actually quite strange really I found the grand architect researching the holocaust for a book I wrote..... this is a very strange world we live in my friend ... very strange indeed
Liam Jones
Its called the "offense wall" and it lets everyone know to sage concern shills like your faggot self.
Cooper Peterson
That is the normal knee jerk reaction, but seriously, game it out a bit. The problem here is the Nazis fought for truth, we can distance ourselves from symbols, but the resemblance to what the Nazis believed will still be present in our ideology. And they will still call u Nazi no matter wat. Then we will just look like dishonest sneaks
No 1 goes around w swastika flags except shills and autismos anyway
Hunter Wood
>unironically being a Hegelian THIS IS LITERALLY SOVIET RETHORIC
Caleb Carter
Use the Lambda you dimmmassses - it works well. It basically has the same appeal as the Swastika had in the early 30s.
John Murphy
Are you a Freemason?
Show me, I thirst for knowledge.
Chase Bell
I would think that the most logical way to "do something" about Jews, blacks, etc...is to HELP them! Team up and combine all the positive aspects of humanity! It's not like one race is superior to the rest, so, logically, we should mix it up!
Lincoln Foster
" Economy based on warfare"
Hitler turned Germany from poorest in Europe to richest, all b4 the war started
"Produced nothing of value"
I see you added the 'cultural' caveat, since plenty of material things were produced such as the Autobahn. But yours is really more a statement of opinion than fact, isn't it?
Predicts nazism would fail, even if they won wwII
I smell kike.
Joshua Cox
>ease into promoting this ideology
shut up, you're basically our version of a capitalist roader. we want full white nationalism.
>tainted by the reputation
MSM will taint any and all of our symbols, so why not use one that actually means something? The hakencruz was a German symbol for thousands of years.
fuck off OP
Dominic Harris
it's not that the swastika is "tainted", it's that it doesnt belong to you larping fucks in the USA. It belongs to the germans, and the germans alone.
Isaiah Martinez
I lost my chromosomes bro.
Kayden Perry
Or you could focus your time on something actually fruitful like improving yourself. Working on new symbols to unite those that hate is full of old energy and won't matter in the near future. I'm always surprised at how many young people cannot see past the hate traps laid for them by manipulators of the past.
The view is spectacular when you rise above all of this. For a board that boasts IQ scores I am amazed there is so little wisdom.
Jack Sanders
>reddit spacing this hard This isn't even adequate bait.
Mason Davis
No I am not but I have unlocked their secrets and unlike them I hare them freely start here:
That doesn't change the fact that you people are good for nothing dirty facists.
Xavier Phillips
What exactly do you think a fascist is enlighten us all
Liam Rivera
It's a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.
Andrew Jenkins
as opposed to authoritarian globalism you filthy commie?
Camden Brown
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Adrian Rivera
I'm not a commie, it's just that there's a lack of non-right flags.
Ayden Phillips
Ye man we should focus on 14 not 88
Carson Brown
ah ok then I am a classical liberal constitutionalist myself but as I already said earlier nothing can stop what is coming and they do have non right flags don't tread on me for example
Jack Parker
The Swastika is essentially a Pentagram for trolls, the shitposters don't care about ideology and you won't get then to stop. You can only shame then like the fedora tipping atheists, which most of them are anyway. National Socialism is a legit ideology specific to Germany but memetically recognized as anti-America, truth doesn't matter as much as rhetoric. You can heavily draw inspiration from it and Julius Evola, believe in the 14 words, and be against the Jews without posting skinhead tier shock memes to normies.
Homework: Never flag cuck, America First, not a foreign flag. Shame Americans using foreign flags, but don't attack the philosophy of National Socialism. They need to be told they don't understand it if they're adopting it wholesale copy pasta, that's not how Fascism works, it's specific to each country. American history is plenty Fascist to draw inspiration, you need only research.
Gavin Morgan
Our ideology is already taboo as hell, why compromise? I mean they'll call us nazis anyways.
Jace Torres
As much as I love the swastika op is right, its just gonna scare away normies, we really need to work on a new symbol. Drop the 14/88 and bring in the 14/76
Jose Morris
Then it will take about 15 seconds for CNN to brand your new flag as WAYSIS and then BAM
David Robinson
FPBP
Liam Martinez
of course we aren't going to use the swastika in our movement's flags. But to drop the 88 and conform isn't what we should be doing right now it shows weakness we need to show strength. 14 in public 88 in private.
also this.
Jason Brooks
This misses the point. The blind defense of swastika use is what makes me think the alt-right is either full of spies or completely self-sabotaging. This isn't an ideological problem, it's a branding problem. The fact that nobody is savvy enough to recognize that makes me think there's a serious lack of leadership/competence in your ranks. You have good ideas. Re-brand them for the 21st century, create your own iconography, and you will win people over.
The problem with Nazi symbols isn't that it's "too edgy." It's that it's 100 years old and they're the most famous losers of the 20th century. You can't go 1 day in Europe or the US without being reminded that he Nazis lost. Nobody is rallying behind the dead symbols of losers, no matter how noble their ideals were or how close they came to winning. At the end of the day, they lost. Bad branding.
Jaxson Sanders
You're right op, we wouldn't want to alienate any of our fellow Americans. MAGA!
Jack Sanders
>Yyyyou're just delusional!
Pathetic
Jaxson Jones
I mean you're right in a sense, they lost but the idea still lives. I also agree with not directly ripping the swastika and putting in into our modern movements flags and iconography etc etc.... But dropping the aesthetic all together we can't do, it's ingrained into the movement and it's where we come from. I'd personally prefer something like pic related type for the new wave imagery, but you're totally right about swastika usage and it's negative connotations.
Can we make this into an aesthetic thread for new flag/movement design?