Etotama's 3D was pretty good.
Etotama's 3D was pretty good
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It was ok.
8 years from now is when 3D will truly be great
No
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>3D will truly be great
Kill yourself
Another show I like to be added to the s2 never pile.
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Yes, this and Show by Rock had good CGI. I guess, it kinda works if they are chibis.
It had better FPS than most 3D in anime out there
>good CGI
Die
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yeah, this show was a lot of fun to watch on Sup Forums dess dess
Etotama is like the benchmark for 3D for television anime, I hope more studios adopts their workflow.
Etotama was capable of doing full body CG, but it was probably too expensive for the budget they had.
It was heavily stylized chibi, which made it a lot easier for them.
What was her gimmick again?
Favorite Etoshin?
Mine's Rabbit.
>3D
>good
Is this the unpopular opinions thread
Nyaa-tan.
I can't help but love her for some inexplicable reason.
This isn't the thread for you.
yeah, the best CG so far
Seeing that nips hated this because off their inherent shit taste we won't be seeing 3D like this anytime soon.
I miss Etotama. I think it aired together with Punch Line, which was another favorite of mine from that season. Good times.
>genki
>ganbarimasu
>ultimate best friend
so good you can't even be arsed to make good webms
You miss watching it with Sup Forums.
>that week of sheer horror and despair
Tiger because my zodiac is tiger.
If you're talking about the show, then yeah we won't be seeing more etotama.
But other studios can adopt the workflow for 3D from the studio that created Etotama for other shows.
Doing so can cut the costs for 3D if workflow for 3D is seamless. Etotama seemed to have done a good job integrating 2D and 3D into the same show even if the 3D and 2D parts never really interacted with each other.
She makes my heart go doki doki.
Post some precure.
Agreed. Made me upset whenever someone would say that the 3D looked bad while it was airing when it looks fantastic, especially for a seasonal anime. I didn't like Show by Rock's as much even though it was objectively better. It works because of what said, the stylization makes it.
Add on to those parts always being really fun to watch as well as the animations for the CG also being stylized really well and those scenes became basically the best parts of the anime. The kart race was one of my favorite episodes. The non-3D parts were good too though.
Rabbit? More like RabBest.
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If there was gonna be a show that would be fully 3D and look good at the same time, I'd say it'd be Precure.
Toei just needs to jump on the 3D bandwagon already for television anime. They clearly have a 3D staff good enough judging by their Harlock movie and Precure.
Didn't everyone hate the Harlock movie?
I still don't get what people hate on 3DCG.
I hate CGI just as much as you, buddy. But, honestly, Show by Rock and Etotama do look ok, it's a rare exception.
The 3D was great, it doesn't matter if the movie was mediocre.
I do, cause it's mostly terribly done. Shit like Etotama, Bubuki, and others are exceptions..
That animation is terrible.
That can only be explained by shit taste then.
It isn't very smooth. Expelled from Paradise looked good, but only when everything was still.
It's good enough if the story, acting, music (and PLOT) ,etc. is good enough to make you forget that you're watching CG. Pic related for me.
>shit taste
>for animation
That's very stilted animation, friend.
Because i like hand drawn aesthetic. If i want 3d i rather play a videogame
(and)
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Fuck you.
Even if the 3D itself looks decent, the choreography is so shit that I'd rather not watch it.
It's a good combination of them only using it during moments where it's not jarring (although they have to do it by hopping through a gate, which counters what I just said, but whatever) and they do it well.
It's smooth, it looks good, it's stylish, and it's not clashing with the 2D animation because it's literally in an entirely different world. It also doesn't feel like they're just using it to get out of animating those scenes traditionally, since they both look good and feel good to watch, at least for me.
Cock all day every day.
You obviously can't tell quality even if it hit you into face.
I miss Etotama.
It's shit.
S2 when
3D is just too big of a jump for anime studios in Japan.
You know what you need for good 3D for television anime?
Studios need to hire good modellers just to make pretty much fucking everything. You need people to make assets like cars and shit and other people to make matte paintings for far away shit.
You also need to have people that can rig 3D characters really good so it'd be easier for the animators to animate with.
Not only that, but you'd need 3D animators that actually knows what the hell they're doing. And a 3D animator can only be as good as they can be depending on how well the 3D rig they're using is. If the character rig is bad then the animation can be stilted or just awful because of limitations in the character rig itself.
The most important thing of all though is making the 3D look nice. And you can't just pull that shit off without dedicating an entire staff on just compositing the 3D renders with effects and shading to make it look nice. I'm talking a full department on compositing.
It's a lot of money, and unless you're toei or Bones, studios can't risk taking such a financial decision like that unless they're positive that they can pull it off and make it successful.
It looks like a MMD clip. Shit looks bad, if you are going to defend CGI at least pick a better webm.
Alright, it's nice to know.
Just listen to you, next time you watch an anime.
>I'm watching this because of the choreography
Reaffirm to your postmodern mentality, I'm spending time of my life because of the fucking choreography.
I didn't say it looked bad, just a little choppy
barely any animation happened in that webm, what are you trying to accomplish?
it's the kind of animation a college grad for 3D would be able to pull off.
honestly not that great.
It's too bad that the character designs are awful, though.
>It's a lot of money, and unless you're toei or Bones, studios can't risk taking such a financial decision like that unless they're positive that they can pull it off and make it successful.
dunno but Shirogumi successfully created such nice 3D on etotama, is Shirogumi as big as Toei or Bones?
I'm pretty positive their main thing is effects and shit for live action shows. So 3D was no mystery to them. And they have a good department for compositing as well since that's where most of the effects get poured into for live action.
>it's shit, it just looks alright when nothing is happening
>OH YEAH? How about 'this' webm where nothing happens?
another user said that, all I said is that the animation you provided as examples are bad.
I never said anything about how it looked visually. You need to get whatever's stuck up your ass out and stop being so anal about it.
I miss this show and I miss my Tiger
I'm not that user. I'm actually making fun of him. Expelled from Paradise was rather meh the entire time for me, especially animation wise.
well i doubt that making a 3D anime would cost more money than creating hand drawn anime, i'm not an animator, but i work with CAD, i found it far more simple, faster and easy to draw stuffs using CAD especially 3D design
by using this experience of mine, i could say that "maybe' 3D is way "cheaper" (faster simpler easier) than hand drawn anime
but once again, i'm not an animator, and i didn't know how anime studio works though
Post more 3D.
>only three people watched this show
two of them were just me rewatching the episode for the week.
it still hurts
thelegomovie.gif
What are you on about we had a lot of people watching the show while it aired. There's just not a lot to say beyond it was funny or pretty when Etos weren't dying.
Fuck off, there are examples of good CG, but Expelled from Paradise is not one of them.
getting the software is expensive as fuck, you'd also need the money to get good computers to run renders and simulations.
Also the money that would be burned simply to adjust the 2D workflow that's already been established and making it work alongside 3D. Right now some studios are just making a small as shit 3D department just for small shit like toast or a bike. Making a whole department be as big as a 2D department would require adjustments in scheduling and thus affect budgeting and money.
You'd also need to hire people that actually know what they're doing. Most studios only know how to do 2D work, so you'd need to hire people with 3D knowledge to get that shit done.
So while 3D itself is not necessarily "expensive", as you said, it's faster to a regard in comparison to 2D animation, it's just the money required to reach that kind of cheapness is a whole fucking lot.
>footfag bait
>best anything
It has been a year and this is still going on.
Someone post more Nyaa-tan please.
because chibi shit does not require too much work.
>pretty good.
It was a fucking masterpiece(and this come from someone that hate cgi irrationaly) people will talk about in 2'0 years like a classic.
Reminds me of MapleStory
20 years*
nice try, mr. CGI faggot
>like a classic
the show is honestly "okay". If people in the future said it was a classic they'd be singing too many praises for a show that was just "okay" and overrating it.
the 3D though is great for a tv anime. It will definitely be written in history as a stepping stone for 3D in anime.
>the 3D though is great for a tv anime. It will definitely be written in history as a stepping stone for 3D in anime.
That's what i'm exactly talking about, the whole 3D part was magnificent, and I also loved the whole series, if it had any mistake it was only being 1 cour, so many characters, so little time, at least there's the manga.
I look for this EVERY Eto thread, Thank you friends.
I think the one mistake that Shaa-tan fans will remember is that they got fucked over by her character episode literally being a recap episode. I'm not even a Shaa-tan person, though I can appreciate her qualities, and I'm upset for them.
Dick move on the staff with that one, even if they had to save money or something. I think the reason was stated in the episode.
Bump
I'm sleepy and drunk, don't know what to talk about but it's always nice to see an Etotam thread.
More than often it looks terrible due to terrible animation and/or shading. But I really like when it's done decently enough.
You guys help keep Etotama alive in my heart
This looks like a MMD animation.
I don't know what this is but it looks like fucking trash.
Like your face
There's nothing wrong with 3d, it's when they paste 3d in a 2d anime and try to pretend it isn't there.
Stop looking at the mirror.
I feel the heat of that burn from here.
Rig animation is fucking awfull. It's not natural and always look awkward. You will never achieve hand drawn level of animation with CGI. That's why CGI is abomination and shouldn't exist.
Reminder that is the year of the best girl.