Some of you may ask "What if Hitler won WW2" but what they should be asking is what if WW1 either never happened or ended quickly in some way. The senseless slaughter of millions of young men who had their whole lives ahead of them is a crime that we should damn all the prime ministers and Kings of Europe to hell. Europe was shattered, the old Europe, the classical Europe, the conservative upstanding Europe of Gentlemanly chivalry withered and died in a hail of Machine-gun fire. French, German, Austro-Hungarian, Russian, Serbian, British, Romanian, Italian, Greek, Bulgarian, Australian, Canadian and American men sacrificed in a war that snuffed out a generation of youthful idealistic men and embittered and emotionally crushed those who survived, and paved the way for a broken West.
I know this is not usually Sup Forums material, just consider this a place for a general thread on the modern consequences of this war. I weep for the dead Sup Forums, but I also weep for what could have been.
Grayson Torres
Get over it faggot
Jaxson Anderson
Nigger
Nathaniel Ross
Consider this a WW1 general thread about its consequences, war photos etc.
Christopher Flores
>the conservative upstanding Europe of Gentlemanly chivalry laffin my ass off
Stop being poor and that Europe comes back
Noah Powell
jew
Connor Gomez
Right when you get over your Rosenberg whore and Catalan you nigger faggot
Jaxson Flores
Is it autistic that I picture Jews in Berlin, Vienna Paris, St. Petersburg, London and New York sitting there, drinking and laughing at the casualty lists come in, all the while they make obscene amounts of money through profiteering and loans? As well as making plans when the war was over to finally take control?
Jordan Edwards
Even during my normie days I knew that if there had been no WWI or the US had sided with the axis we would have avoided not just WWI and Hitler but also the Soviet Union and their proliferation of communism around the globe.
Fuck WWI.
Ian Lewis
Its not even a class thing, during the First Battle of Ypres, many of the German Conscripts were seen carrying banners and singing patriotic songs as they advanced toward the allied lines, the Romantic ideals of fighting for your country and combat being noble was a common sentiment.
Wyatt Ross
>axis >ww1
Aaron Cruz
I would like to see you fight in the trenches, pic related.
Plus show your flag faggot.
David Campbell
It was the death of identity and things greater than the self that caused this, not World War 1. Hence people inventing their own identities.
Samuel Williams
Absolutely this. World War One was the end of the European golden age, World War Two was the nail in the casket that thrust us into our current degenerate neoliberal societies.
Anthony Morris
Same fucking difference you nigger
Samuel Johnson
It doesn't matter. WW1 is like Ancient pre-history to modern society. World War 2 is the founding tragedy/myth.
Isaiah Moore
WWI was inevitable not because of the inital spark that ignited it but rather because of the underlying tensions leading up to it.
Kaiser Wilhelm wanted to expand the economic might of Germany's industry but that meant stepping on the toes of Britain and possibly kicking them in the shin to get the upper hand.
The war became a perfect opportunity for others to air their grievances out. For the French it became about smarting the germans for their loss in 1870, for the russians it was a matter of cementing their hold on power to stop fermenting dissention in the empire by sending the men to the frontlines.
Hunter Richardson
The height of western civilization was about 1913. It's been downhill from there. >axis >ww1
Matthew Cooper
USA saved Europe in WWI.
Never forget.
Hunter Cook
What if the French revolution never happened is the real question.
Tyler Hill
I wish Bismarck was alive at the time of WW1 he would of prevented it from happening by retaining relations with Britain and Russia. So instead of WW1 it would be a war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia. And Austria-Hungary would kick their ass.
Leo Hill
weepy fag
Isaiah Martin
Yeah, it's not called the seminal tragedy for nothing. Pretty much spot on. The loss in WWII cemented the decline, but WWI was the origin point of European downfall. I hope one day we can stand up once again.
Dominic Thomas
For the Russians it was also a matter of honor, at least in one book i've read about the October revolution called "A People's Tragedy". In the book the Author cites letters from the Military command and even the Tsar's advisors who knew the country was not prepared for war, but that Russian honor and its commitment to Serbian independence (An independence paid heftily in Russian and Serb Blood during the Russo-Ottoman War of 1877) was so important that they felt they had to act. Also your right in that all sides saw that much was to be gained for the winning side of the war.
Gavin Lee
Interesting topic and good analysis. The Great War is indeed where things went so terribly wrong for the west. As I read it, somebody in Deutschland really dropped the ball executing on the Schlieffenplan. If Paul von Hindenberg had been the marshal on the western front, it actually would have been over by Christmas.
Connor Williams
Not really, Austro-Hungarian forces got their asses handed to them by muh ancestors in 1914, though bringing in Bulgaria into the war and German assistance sealed Serbia's fate.
Lucas Peterson
What does everyone think the world would look like today had WW1 either never happened (which was near impossible), or at least had Germany won.
Charles Hill
The Schlieffenplan in truth was flawed to its core, and truth be told Von Moltke probably made the plan work better then it should have. However, the ability of the Russians to mobilize their army in two weeks and Britains entry into the war destroyed any chance of a knockout German victory.
Asher Perez
Honestly its unknowable but I think either a 1914 German victory in which Britain fails to enter the war and France/Russia are forced to sue for peace is the best possible outcome. Either that, or the carnage of the first six months shakes Europe into trying to find a peaceful solution.