Why is Sup Forums against the workers owning the means the of production and running workplaces democratically?

Why is Sup Forums against the workers owning the means the of production and running workplaces democratically?

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but you can do that, nobody is preventing you from doing it

just buy the share of the company

>never heard of stock market
grate bate mate

I support private worker ownership

Communism doesn't work, it didn't work, and it never will work.

>it wasn't REAL communism tho

It still doesn't work.
Also this might be a slide thread, newfags sage it.

Start your own company with other workers and try your proposed methods.

Well, it stands to reason that it would reduce essential business management functions, which should be based on competence, to popularity contests. This runs the risk of popular, but incompetent managers being elected who then cause the business to go under and get everyone fired.

What percent of people own stocks?

I'll give you a hint: it's very small, and most of them are white.

>but you can do that, nobody is preventing you from doing it
Literally this.

The fact that the vast majority of successful companies don't operate democratically with le empowered workers is also proof that it doesn't work.

I don't have the capital to start a company and neither do you. You've been oppressed by corporations and the gov't.

>posts a thumbnail

I expect NOTHING less from commies and dumbies

Cause they don't like their girls receiving better orgasms

Got a sauce on that pic though?

Half of all Americans own stock, you fucking idiot. That's about 160 million people.

because this is just a bullshit idea with zero logical sense. It sounds nice but will never work IRL.

Workers don't want to work, they are just trying to make money. Its the business owner that gets all the shit together, he is a leader who creates the opportunity for workers to work.

Workers will not do this on their own. And if a worker ever did, he sure as hell isn't going to be happy with all his employees demanding they own the means of production,

But hey, you cant blame lazy ass socialist workers from wanting to seize control of something they did not create.

>most of them are white
You mean Arabs, Chinese, Indians and Mexicans are white, no?

Go fuck yourself, piece of shit. Start your own little company, hire 10 people and give the company to them. See how you like it.

>running work places democratically
What if the majority of your co workers are fucking idiots and make shitty decisions? Your democratically owned business will fail

>it's very small
no its isnt you retard, everyone sane has some

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Sup Forums is not against that, m8

go on with fellow workers and make a democratically ruled and collective owned business and start producing crap to compete with others

Sup Forums is against bunch of half literate animals being controlled by jews rushing around and murdering civilians in a name of a failed economic system forcing state ownership that siphons ALL power in to the hands of few commies, exploiting whole countries beyond even the most crooked capitalist wildest dreams

Why do we run the government this way then? Are you against democracy or something?

>I don't have the capital

Well no shit, you're a commie faggot. If you had anything you wouldn't be fantasizing about stealing it from someone else.

you can already do that, why dont you?

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related. sauce.

link to 5 pics posted on reddit.
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The average layman is retarded and doesn't understand how to run a business profitably.

Your ideology is a bureaucratic clusterfuck and you just want to lord over it as the new elite. Get fucked commie.

This. Socialism isn't fundamentally about economics or even social issues, it's about a lack of ability to recognize the utility of hierarchy.

Of course, it stands to reason that low-ability people prefer to believe the idea that hierarchies are arbitrary as a defense mechanism, which explains why leftists are frequently jobless imbeciles.

Go do it then. Don't force everyone else to do it. Isn't a free society nice?

>Why is Sup Forums against the workers owning the means the of production and running workplaces democratically?
When the business is in the red for the year are the employees gonna not take a salary?

you are weaseling around the question, many of the world top companies started with next to no capital and ran on personal savings until they turned a profit

you can learn skills and cooperate with other like minded individuals but you know all too well, you have no work ethic, marketable or social skills

thus you are blaming THE MAN for your inability and lack of conviction to peruse your own ideal, inadvertently implying the whole system must be skullfucked in order for your utopia to work

you useful idiotic twat

>I don't have the capital to start a company and neither do you.
I do.
But I don't start companies, I invest in them.
What's your idea for a business or product?

Democracy is inherently flawed, it shits on minorities and gives all the power to mob rule. The US is not a democracy, it's a republic.

>low iq commie mongrel trying to debate pol
Oh sweetie. Unironically kys.

You need to understand that equality doesnt work because most people are demonstrably stupid.

Yeah, democracy is utopian garbage and doesn't work. That's why the leading world power is a republic.

>imgur.com/a/MVhDs

we dont run government this way, lil retard - or you personally decide anything?

we elect politicians, which are selected and paid by the establishment anyway

>he doesnt know what direct democracy is
>he doesnt know what representative democracy is

then take a loan

nearly all companies are started on a loan - or you think those ebil capitalists wait decades to accumulate money to start the business?

>hey you! Yeah you the virgin over there! Do you want to get laid? Tired of being a pathetic genetic dead end with no skills or usefulness what so ever? You should totally consider communism and you'll have qt orgasming in no time!
>t. Hammer and sickle avatar

> Communist theory applied to sex
> Equal access to pussy for all

I don't think women would be on board.

if the workers purchase the means of production then they are free to do whatever with them

but you know that the left calls for "seizing" the means of production without compensating the rightful owners, which is morally wrong

in light of this, care to reformulate your question?

The next time one of your faggot friends sets a trash can on fire in defense of a commie Utopia, climb in it with a small can of gasoline.

why don't they set up their own business/cooperative?

dipshit, go and ask watercress studios (makes visual novels) how they were having fun with a democratically run company? (hint, i knew people in that company. they pretty much had went to the point where my friend on the inside, tristan, left but came back when they got their shit together. they had disagreements and the company fell apart. YOU NEED ORDER IN A COMPANY, DEMOCRACY IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION IN A BUSINESS. now watercress is an LLC and will be publishing visual novels...before this they were a mess.)


seriously, if you fall for this meme of democracy and your business fails, you losing all your assets in the process...then i won't lose sleep. you decided to do something stupid

Listen up faggot. This is already happening in South Africa.
Some of the wealthy farms are being redistributed between the workers. You wanna know what happened faggot?
Every single farm that was given to the workers failed. The workers literally gave farm back to the original owners because the workers couldn't handle the responsibilities that came with the shares.

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