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Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel - when he`s not busy calling out the jew, or congratulating Mother Russia on her birthday.
Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys youtu.be
What is this from?
Ignore the people who say it sucked, it was great.
Okay, I am downloading it now.
Why didn't they just nuke the BETA? also Why didn't make thicker and even giant robots?
It took me the longest time to notice why Latrova sounded familiar, I always knew she was a dirty red.
Kaja sat in an armchair, staring across the living room at the couple she would now be living with.
"So... let me get this strait... You're in your late forties," She points to Theo, then looking at Iris "And you're in your mid thirties."
Theo nods, "Yeah, basically, and Iris was born five years before me, and you are actually a year older than I am."
"That doesn't make any sense."
"It makes perfect sense, really."
Theo goes over everything again, momentarily distracted by his own daughters running through the room chasing a puppy. It wasn't really a puppy, it was a half-pomeranian, half-chihuahua thing that Iris had somehow gotten for free from Inghild, who still occasionally volunteered at the animal shelter. It was probably five or six years old itself, but it had the appearance of a puppy, so that's what everyone called it. It behaved sort of like a dog, except it was terrified of everything that was bigger than it was, which is to say, everything that exists. Theo looks up from the carpet, where his daughters are trying to bearhug the puppy while it struggles to get away, and finally finishes his explanation. Kaja looks less than convinced.
"So... why am I staying with you, then?"
"Well, my little sister looked into your history, and she decided we'd be a good fit. We've had our own misadventures with rebels, so if you have anything to talk about we're here to listen. Also..." Theo pauses for a moment as the puppy wriggles free and dives under his legs, under the couch. One of his daughters chases after it, and crawls between Theo's legs on her hands and knees, trying to wrest the reluctant micro-dog free from its sanctuary under the furniture.
"We could really use a nanny."
Nuke the core
Nuke the moon
Nuke the sun
It would be a shame to leave this world without knowing who this lovely lady is.
What world are you going to?
Good God, a lot of time has passed.
Nuke the Shire.
Actually, make that the priority.
wots taters precious
Let it die
New VN when?
I want new TSFs desu
Duty Lost Arcadia next with Typhoon and Mig-29 with milf Annet
Latrova is actually younger than most of the girls from schwarzesmarken, isn't she?
She was born in 1960, she is as old as Beatrix and Iris.
No, she said that her son would have Yuuya age, so she is at least the same age of Irisdina.
this is a 41-42 year old with maternal instincts
that soldier-kun on her handbag
Those little details are always fun.
your date tonight
Make her a mother again
You're comfortable with dating an older woman then onii-chan?
Like, double your age older than you?
TDA finale when?
Two 25 kiloton tactical nukes
Good job, Latova! Happy 57th birthday!
Nukes are rare in the TDA world that they have to fight to have a bloodbath over it
Only if they lack all abilities to produce even the smallest nuke and have sent everything up to space or the red line.
Posting best girls.
Yep, they did
Why would they need some 2 shitty tactical nukes when they can get something bigger?
Too bad the french already detonated one in Norad, leaving them no choice
Yui is the best
I like it, Stella and Latrova represent different
which overlapparts of Yuuya's mom. Glorious.
It just doesn't make sense.
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
Left or right?
I can't have two mamas?
They don't like sharing
Latrova shares her love with all the children.
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
tfw no Yugoslavia front VN
That'd be the plan, lad.
Make her a mom again
Seldom reminder to mourn your waifus
Yuuya certainly can.
tfw no Latrova path
Reminder that underdog foreigner autismoe actually triumphed against the overwhelming power of megatsundere / designated superior skills character and then turning into a brocon.
tfw they share the same birth year
When does the pain stop
You will have a chance on Martyrs
Why do best girls always die?
Because Theo is a paranoid asshole
I'd lick Iris' armpits
Why was she so happy with Theo fucking her with a knife? You'd think she'd be more pissed about it all.
She is about to be PENETRATED for the first time
Yuuyamom had a damn fine ass.
Can someone post a picture with him listening in on mother and grandfather having a spat? I think it`s from the VN.
I"m pretty sure every main girl smiles when she dies in the anime version. Beatrix I'm sure is just happy the pain is over.
hot adult woman
with no route
mia during beta mission
giving up this easy
Hey now, its not entirely his fault he's paranoid and trigger happy. Going through what he did doesn't leave room for much else.
latrova is mother russia in flesh
say she'll blow herself like all her team
after credits, only Yuuya&Inias's tsf activates
All her subordinates are dead, she had no reason to try and stay alive.
Delivering tough love since the 60`s!
Yes it's his own fault because despite been right about the Stasi fucking up his life, he puts the blame on the wrong person and uses that excuse to justify all the acctions against them
Still, he been forced to shoot his sister by Suzy didn't help at all
thinking it stops
Her long unending pain was finally over, anon. She wanted to die a long time ago, and she never got any reason from the present to stay, like so many people could have done, if they just tried.
That, and it's a smile because she's giving him her vision, her mission. That or she's telling him "you'll see, I was right, you'll see...". That and maybe also finally a genuine smile for Theo, which sadly gets lost in the anime.
Rather, I will keep the last lights alive. That is how I will honor Pham. It's what she would want. It's what she died for. The last lights. That love and hope do not die.
Celebrate with me Inghildfag, she was alike. To the two girls who understood what it meant to keep love alive in a cold, dark world!
she's giving him her vision, her mission
It's obviously after that anon.
Plus it's not like he has a choice really, in recieving it. Well, yes a "choice", but really, he already accepted it. If not then, he will.
literally angsty edge transmission
she is just happy she doesn't have to deal with retards anymore.
some cunts from cunt batallion have died, cunt-sama!
I applaud your dedication Phamfag
Well it's more because as he's running for his life or doing his best to hold back the BETA, or shivering and alone in Britain, he'll realize.
Then again, this gets kind of muddled in the anime since it leads you on to believe all is well.
nah, he run to bongland after the colapse of the defence line
gets kind of muddled in the anime since it leads you on to believe all is well.
Its almost like the anime is rebel propaganda
rebels get completely whitewashed
Fear me, but follow!
Its almost like the rebels aren't as bad as you desperately want them to be.
performing a coup d'etat in a splintered totalitarian nation
But in all seriousness, the only time she is even remotely not unhelpful is when she is assisting the military in working against the State, which is the exact opposite of what a commissar is for.
Which is, of course, worse that waiting for the Purges to start.
but east germany got purged off the map by alien dick like 3 months later.
Which would have been at all different how under an even more murderously repressive regime? (HINT: It wouldn't)
well for starters east germany would still exist
oppression is only a means to an end friend
1 Latrova image per year
well for starters east germany would still exist
What could possibly make you think this would be the case? They were already getting their asses kicked before Beato decided to overthrow the government.
She was fighting against couner revoultionary and fascist Stasi so there is nothing wrong with that
moderates pls go
Yes they ousted the SED and went full "fuck equality we are in charge now"
Do you even socialist lingo?
At the end of the day, there really isn't much meaningful difference between the two, even if the rhetoric implies otherwise.
That is how the "balance of power" works on commie states
Party-Army-Secret Police/State Secutiry
Newly released Lego kit!
But Lise she is only five years older than we are. How is that double our age?
Will the ride finally end?
Generals usually dont end.
finally, I want off this ride
a deals a deal anon, now suck on my toes!
So just like in pig scum capitalist states.
nah, there is just the happy merchants been the overlords
Sometimes inquisition happens too.
But in irrelevant places like Iceland
Last time it happened in pretty relevant place, anon.
Thank the Lord for that.
Implying that turning Germany into a cucked nation wasn't the goal of the jews
Adofl did some things wrong, but not with them.
implying Bosnians haven't planned it
Nearly a decade earlier
Walther stepped out of the bathroom of his apartment, and looked to Sylwia, who was waiting for him on the bed. Since their little bedroom accident a few weeks earlier, they had been looking for new ways to play with each other. Walther had only been off work today for maybe a half an hour. He was still sweaty and dusty, not having had time to even step into the shower, instead contenting himself with a few spritzes of cologne. the notes of tobaccoo and ginger mingles with his body odor, creating a powerful, masculine aroma. Today, Sylwia told him that he was going to be her Teddy Bear. To that end, Walther was wearing nothing but a pair of fuzzy ears and a bobtail. He preferred not to think about how the tail stayed in it's place.
Sylwia beckoned him to the bed, then wrapped him in an embrace, pressing her head to his chest. She took deep breath, savoring the delightful combination of manly scents wafting into her nostrils. For her, there was no conflict at all between Walther's granite exterior and the tender, gentle way he treated her. Even long ago, in the time before they arrived on the interdimensional mattress, when they had just met and were getting to know each other, it was his patient, caring side that made her fall in love with him, and gradually believe what he believed, that she too was a person being worthy of love. A hand touched her shoulder, and she was pulled out of the haze of distant memories. She looked up at him, grinned, and then reached around to wiggle the bobtail. Walther's vaunted granite exterior cracked for a second as he let out a surprised yelp, but he was rock hard. Sylwia rolled him over and pushed him onto the bed, straddling him. She looked down at the man underneath her, and smiled.
"It's fun to try new things, isn't it?"
Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus.
pair of fuzzy ears and a bobtail
Since you have three of them, you won't mind if I CHOMP a few then, would you?
I finished reading Alternative.
"Thank you, Takeru".
Cryska's victory was as amazing as it was short-lived. just like her, really.
t. Single old hag
They should have her son show up as a pilot in TDA or something.
Cryska was a good girl, she deserved some happiness in her life.
That's rude Anon, today is Latrova's birthday, can't you be more polite?
look in the window
see 25 storey apartment complexes, approx 60-70m
Realize XG-70d is ~180m high
Realize XG-70d is as tall as 3 such apartment complexes stacked on each other
anon, help me
That's not a bikini, that's the Superior. We have to get her away from that terrible thing right away!
Stop spoiling best girl you filthy capitalists
Rub some oil. yes?
tfw no quantum computer gf
I want to hug and cuddle Cryska all night long.
Well, she's better than Stella, I'll give her that
The defense rests its case.
One job Japan
I didn't know it was her birthday
I don't know if it's been scanned but here's the Vol.3 TE Rising manga bonus
I just scanned which has a cute Latrova and some boy
why have I never seen this before today
Because I just scanned it
Siberian Tigress with cub
tfw I was tricked to watch shit for Latrova and Stella
They had like 10 minutes total of screentime. I fucking hate you faggots.
If you're this guy , you have no one but yourself to blame. You went in because of one MILF and one anons opinion.
yeah but now that you're here you can join us in lusting after side characters and ridiculing the cardboard cutouts they had as main characters.
As much as I enjoyed TE, and I did, it's not like I regret not watching it until there was a lull in the Schwarzesmarken threads on Sup Forums
I am not that anon, I watched this a season after its airing period.
You went in because of one MILF
For what it's worth Stella was best girl by miles. I really dig the borderline kuudere attitude and the slight teasing.
Can you post a scan of this and/or more Latrova scans?
Thanks, by the way. More motherland is always welcome.
Comrade, is cold like Siberia. We must making love to warm up
It won't if anons pretend to want to get off the ride when they actually really want to stay on it.
We can just have some Borscht by the fireplace.
What's whit all this horny Cryska posting?
Fine, let's talk about the baby factory
You don't get tired of the usual SM circle jerking?
I was just asking Anon, its uncommon that's all.
ALL OF THEM!
Only 1 baby
All of my babies.
This is a MabuRabu thread, thus we shall listen to MabuRabu!
Who got chomped and made you boss?
That's the joke etc etc.
also, why don't you post Commissar Lord Bernn?
THIS IS YOUR LAST STAND NO DOUBT NO FEAR
What is Gretel's favorite BLAMming gun?
<<Now, let us take back our shattered world!>>
For all the West vs. East animosity (which in real life was nowhere the level that is shown on SM)
I'd love to see Wessies and Ossies singing together someing like this
PS: ERUSEAN PRIDE WORLDWIDE
Lord "feelthe" Bernn is better. German, right?
The 120mm grenade launcher
And the Makarov if she is on foot
"you'll see, I was right, you'll see..."
I think it's this honestly. She's getting a thrill imagining how everyone is going to die. It's rather telling that her final thoughts were one of hatred and pettiness. She was throwing a tantrum that things had not gone her way.
She was right though. The BETA were defeated thanks to the work of a woman who was basically a Jap version of her.
Jᴜsᴛ ᴀ ʀᴇᴍɪɴᴅᴇʀ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ Jᴜɴᴇ BD ᴘᴏᴘᴜʟᴀʀɪᴛʏ ᴘᴏʟʟs ᴄʟᴏsᴇ ᴏᴜᴛ ᴛᴏᴍᴏʀʀᴏᴡ. Iғ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴡᴀɪғᴜ ɪs ᴀɴʏ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ғᴇᴀᴛᴜʀᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴘɪᴄ ʀᴇʟᴀᴛᴇᴅ, ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ ᴄᴏɴᴛᴇɴᴛ, ᴛʜᴇɴ ʏᴏᴜ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴠᴏᴛᴇ.
Vᴏᴛɪɴɢ ɪs ʜᴇʟᴅ ᴏɴ âɢᴇ's Nɪᴄᴏ sᴛʀᴇᴀᴍ. Lɪɴᴋs ᴀʀᴇ ᴘᴏsᴛᴇᴅ ᴀʟʟ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ɪɴ âɢᴇ's ᴛᴡɪᴛᴛᴇʀ sᴛʀᴇᴀᴍ (ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴄʜᴇᴄᴋ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ʜᴀɴᴅ sɪᴛᴇ ᴏғ âɢᴇ's ᴍᴀɪɴ sɪᴛᴇ). Vᴏᴛɪɴɢ ᴜsᴜᴀʟʟʏ sᴛᴀʀᴛs sᴏᴍᴇᴛɪᴍᴇ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏʀɴɪɴɢ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ 0830 ᴛᴏ 0845 Eᴀsᴛᴇʀɴ Tɪᴍᴇ. Yᴏᴜ ᴏɴʟʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴀ ᴄᴏᴜᴘʟᴇ ᴏғ ᴍɪɴᴜᴛᴇs ᴛᴏ ᴄᴀsᴛ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴠᴏᴛᴇ ʙᴇғᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ʙᴇɢɪɴ ᴛᴀʟʟʏɪɴɢ ɪᴛ ᴜᴘ, sᴏ ʏᴏᴜ ɢᴏᴛᴛᴀ ʙᴇ ǫᴜɪᴄᴋ (ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴄʟɪᴄᴋ ᴏɴ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴡᴀɪғᴜ ᴡʜᴇɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀɴɴᴏᴛᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴘᴏᴘs ᴜᴘ).
Gᴏᴏᴅ ʟᴜᴄᴋ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴀʏ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴇsᴛ Jᴜɴᴇ Wᴀɪғᴜ ᴡɪɴ!
inb4 nuh uh, humanity won despite Yuuko and she was purposely sabotaging things for her own ego
Also, they pick the top three winners, so don't sweat it if your waifu isn't first place.
Stella/Lise would be nice. Sharon if there needs to be a compromise
ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡᴀɴᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴛᴏ ɢᴇᴛ sᴏᴍᴇ ᴏʀɪɢɪɴᴀʟ ᴄᴏɴᴛᴇɴᴛ
Would mind elaborating further, my good sir?
are we getting any new info on ML strike frontier tomorow?
like how they used music from VN makes me feel nostalgic.
Birthday pics, and occasionally shit like figures and dakis if enough love is shown.
Yuuko, Lise, and Stella for me.
Same hour as before?
Yeah, pretty much.
Based Yuuko will win. You heard it here first.
I will push for Lise though.
They pic the top three. Best girls almost always win with those odds.
Yes, Happy Birthday to best girl of TE. Lets all love the mother!
We running the tr/a/in on her?
you will never be Jurgen and greeted by these two's smiling, eager faces
you will never be able to save them and give them happiness
How can Beatrix's bikini cover more, but still look so much more lewd than Irisdina's?
Show some respect comrade.
1 guy for every year she spent thirsty, tovarisch.
Sometimes more is less and less is more.
Get marketed as main heroines
the cover girls to age's cons for the past year
Only one of them is romanceable
the other is the main villain/final boss who you bisect with a fuckhueg knife
I wish age didn't do this bullshit. It's almost like they're mocking us with this misleading advertising.
the total amount of time they show up onscreen in the anime is minimal
beato secret route confirmed!
They should give you a bad end in the Lise route where you fuck Bea with full CGs and then Lise walks in on you and kills both of you before hanging herself. now THAT would be full suffering.
Sounds pretty OOC
The anime clearly favors Katia as its main heroines in much of its promo material, so it's not much of a problem. I don't think Beatrix got a single piece of promotional material at all, so the marketing is at least more honest.
True enough. Still though, there is something upsetting that the main mentor to the MC AND the main antagonist (so to speak) both show for a minimal amount of time, not to mention said antagonist barely has a relationship of any sort with said MC.
It feels like we've been cheated.
To be fair, Iris is absent from volume 6 on and Beatrix and Theo never had that much chemistry . The best villains are those that offer up a sort of rebuke or argument to the hero's world view.
Theo and Beatrix didn't even talk to one another in the anime until the last episode.
There you go comrade, that's the spirit. Stella is love.
tfw no nico account and will be at work when it is time.
Sorry Sharon ;_;
your love is weak!
Keep dreaming anon.
More like all three routes end with Theo stabbing her with his knife, insulting her as she lies in a pool of her own blood struggling to breath and going into shock, then flying back to Iris/Katia/Lise.
Does anyone know what a stryker can do?
No matter what Onii-chan kills Onee-san
That is not healing.
dub dub dubs confirms.
How about 30 of them?
Lise doesn't get any healing in Muv-Luv, only in silly fanfictions anonymously posted to 4chan.
We wheeled vehicles now?
Be thirty times as kawaii
Will it even exist in the muv-luv world?
Frog similar vehicle too
remember the day when spoilers hit for the VN and the first thing everyone did was to rush to sadpanda and change all Yuuya/Yui porn tags to incest
It was actually hilarious as fuck.
You'd think that as much as tech tends to jump in all out RL wars, that ML would have advanced in military hardware like crazy since the 70's-80's. Their tech advancement seems closer to that of peace-time than an all out desperate struggle for survival.
I blame healanon that I now know what that means.
Would they even need a 105mm in the muv-luv world
A 90mm would be able to do the same thing but more rounds inside.
We all know that the authors behind this are not that well educated and would not want to spend time looking up real world prototypes or even drawing new vehicles instead of using what already exists regardless if it makes sense.
That's mostly because ML countries are dumbfucks who sabotage each others technological advancement more so than even in real life where there is no alien threat.
Europe sabotaging America's efforts to build a nuke even with the knowledge that the Germans are building one during WWII is something that you could expect out of ML politics.
because muh TSF
76mm master race
Even their TSFs should be crazy by the turn of the century. I know Gundam gets crapped on for it's rapid tech advancement, but that's more realistic than ML.
Trying to keep TSF improvements comparable to RL jet improvements is unrealistic as fuck.
Well there are not that many explanations why humanity have not gone full cold war magic except that everyone is retarded and thus we are still at the same level that we have today.
The funny part is the filename is a typo and it should be RBF.
An RFB is a bullpen rifle.
RBF for Resting Bitch Face.
RFB for Really Fucking Bored.
Would you finish what you started anons?
It is indeed a cute RBF.
Beatrix should be in something a little more glamorous than a MiG-27. I mean, they've only been fighting the BATERs for what, 10 years now (and even further back for the Americans)?
There tech advancement was already well ahead of ours in peacetime; why did they suddenly stop when they needed it the most?
Also, do you think she paints it red because it goes faster, or because muh Jurgen?
I want to break the Japanese Doll
Break her hymen, I mean
The only way to break in a semen demon is with a meter of coldsteel lodged through her.
I don't look like that do I
do you think she paints it red because it goes faster, or because muh Jurgen?
It's because muh jurgen
also, the NVA loved the 21 but hated the 23, and well the 29 was the shining pearl of the air force
DESU the most I can do is maybe 6 inches if it's not cold out. It'll still get her to bleed a little bit.
Jurgen originally painted his red because it was "Beatrix's color" and he loved her. Not sure if Beatrix is doing it for Jurgen, or just because she really like red though.
It's not true penetration unless you break skin going in
and then break skin again coming out.
Everything she does is for Jurgen.
Which is also potentially bad because it allows her to abdicate any personal responsibility for her actions, but I'm not a beatohater so i'm not going to question the sincerity with which she acts.
Yui a best
Nice thigh gap.
abdicate any personal responsibility for her actions
I don't really think so. She knows what she's doing, and knows that she'll do anything to carry out Jurgen's will.
I want Latrova to hate-fuck me.
TE kept going for years
SM slows down after a month
TE was more popular for one. And if you think about it, the threads haven't really slowed down that much. We still get 70+ posters in her on good days.
TE had more episodes too. Twice as many in fact. Both east and western audiences seem to agree the short run time hurt SM in both the story and character development departments quite a bit.
The BETA were defeated thanks to the work of a woman who was basically a Jap version of her
Her primary contribution was stealing credit. Her sister built the physical computer system of the 00 Unit, Lockheed built the XG-70, and Extra!Yuuko made the 00 Unit viable. The XG-70 won Operation Ouka, and the 00 Unit made it work.
Nowhere does Alt!Yuuko, the one anything like Beatrix, actually make a significant contribution.
Is that Takeru in the back?
Of course, she would join them. A threesome with those two is a Lise dream come true. Fuck it throw in Farka too.
Beatrix should be in something a little more glamorous than a MiG-27
East bloc doesn't have anything better, and it's not as if she's going to be getting an F-14 anywhere.
She knows what she's doing
But she doesn't care. She doesn't care who dies, what it costs, or is there are better options.
Of course, that's the problem with her mentality. Once you start that, the only way not to be a mass murderer is to be right, and more right than anyone else, which means no one is going to find an better solution.
Duh. Doing so-and-so "no matter the cost" to herself or others is something Beatrix says quite a lot in Requiem and the LNs. She doesn't mind dying, probably would welcome it, nor does she mind anyone else dying too so long as she gets what she wants.
or is there are better options.
She does, she's just convinced there isn't.
More liek Idol
A Strycken can: roll over, self-entrench, ruin pavement with high ground pressure, get perforated by 12.7mm rounds, break down incessantly, misfeed every load, provide a means for God Damn Lame Systems to offload their surplus 105mm guns, guarantee a gold-plated budget to bilk taxpayers out of ungodly sums of money, serve as a ludicrously overpriced rolling coffin for however many hapless grunts can be shoehorned inside... have I omitted anything?
that this is not a sequel of alternative shit
Age please don't make such weird title too
But why aren't they all blonde yet?
I want to feed Gretel pieces of cheese
Oh my god. Healing is back! That, and I've been avoiding these threads since that epilogue.
It kinda sucks they didn't give her any other looks besides scowling at Yuuya in the anime.
Only reason I'm still here myself is due to healanon's writing.
tfw thingken of madoka
Wake up homussar.
not liking GOING GOING
not liking TOPPU GUN wrecking BETA and terrorists shit
I like him too, but its not the only reason these threads are
fun Around the time the show ended there was all kinds of creative energy, probably due to what felt like wasted potential on the show's part.
I wish to shoot dushman with Komandir Latrova!
Mig-27 is the latest in what Soviets got mang. Mig-29 and Su-27 won't make their appearance for a few years yet.
Gen 2 has only started in ML with the F-14, which is brand new at Schwarzesmarken's time.
And yes, muh Jurgen.
Problem is, 27 is a ground attacker. Makes a lot of sense against baters, but fighting other TSF?
Beato should have clearly stuck with 23.
The TSFs aren't always optimized for the task the Airplanes they were based on were. In ML the main advantage of the 27 is that it no longer is the maintenance nightmare the 23 was, while getting better performance. But then again, she was expecting her plan to go off without any problems and thus no longer having to fight other TSFs.
They dont follow how jet planes acted or was used in real life.
I've done other stuff since the epilogue, like
and of course various stuff here:
Walther and Sylwia are a fun couple to write about, maybe I'll do a little more with them. I like the idea of two tough, hardened veterans who are cute and dorky and vulnerable around each other. It's a delicious sort of gap moe,
And Walther, in particular, is moe as fuck.
Far eastern front
Nigga you what? And she would do in afghanistan is stay on the camp and be a medic or nurse.
20 something Nurse Latrova
Thanks to the Muv-Luv fan artist curse, we'll never get to see that.
Well that is the only thing that she could have done in afghanistan realistically. Women mostly served as nurses and alike in the soviet army and very few (maybe even none) got even close to combat roles after world war 2.
And Walther, in particular, is moe as fuck
We really were denied seeing enough of him in the anime.
tfw you can't touch him in the character interact page.
I'd like to see what interactions would be like between Theo and Lise after they reconciled and moved on in a more platonic relationship. After all they've been through, how both feel betrayed by the other on some level, and how it all ended it must be somewhat awkward.
Or maybe some personal time between Lise and Sylwia, they were so busy being at each other's throats given the circumstances of how they met that they didn't even know what certain things they may have had in common.
not wanting the Japanese Devil to break you
Those are both good ideas. Theo and Lisa time sounds pretty tough to write, but maybe if they were doing something together.
For siblings as close as they are brother/sister "dates" aren't that uncommon. No doubt she would want to spend time with him to catch up on those lost years too. Ice skating, amusement parks, country fair, those two could do anything and have a good time as long as they're together.
Yes, 27 is indeed a ground attacker. I felt that was kind of an oversight on Kouki's part, I also thought it made more sense as a Bater fighter and the 23 was more all purpose.
But that's how things are sometimes in ML. XB-70 Valkryie here is a massive fortress, not a sleek uncatchable bomber. For the most part the comparisons stick, but sometimes they don't. The F-14 more or less follows it's historical note, but its Pheonixes are basically the complete opposite of what they were irl.
I like how this sounds.
Also something for consideration: the secret brotherhood of watching lewd anime shows. Primary members are anon, Jurgen, and newly inducted Theo.
"anon, Jurgen said he was sending me some 'research material,' but all I got was this link that leads to a picture of a sad-looking panda. What does this mean?"
been a meguka is suffering
Alternate history for you.
read the trilogy they said
it would be a cliche and fun they said
it would be about saving true love they said
Fuck you all you fucking pricks, i didn't ask for this
In a hour more or less
REMINDER THAT THIS IS HAPPENING SOON.
Be ready to cast your vote, onii-chan.
And make sure it's the ~correct~ vote.
Welcome to the club. You're now here forever.
Make sure to re-read Extra.
There there, but aren't you happy you got to feel true feelings? Aren't you happy that you are human enough to truly FEEL true sorrow, true joy, true love in the deepest reaches of your heart, your soul?
You did save my friend. You did save.
Don't you worry, I'll be voting for the best girl on that list.
Welcome Brother, to Mr. Kouki's wild ride.
The road to those feels is paved with dead waifus and is not worth it
A yuuko is fine too, but she'll no doubt win by a landslide.
Remember, there's always three winners.
But only one gets art
No, three get art.
Nothing to really talk about yet, but at least it isn't Pachinko fever.
Sumika smash everything!
Looks like they might postpone the vote for next time.
The girl draw weird thing.
The picture says voting is held today:
They made him draw blind and he still won by a margin, poor girl
What an abomination.
I call for an exterminatus now!
By like a .5 margin.
She's Vivi's VA, by the way.
you fucked up by believing those lies
now your gonna stuck on this wild ride
What the fuck is going on?!
Holy shit are they shocking him
thats what i like to ask
Looks like they're giving him an arm shock handicap.
Where has Kouki been though?
this entire stream
This is more entertaining than I expected.
What did he draw??
Captain Ichimonji :_;7
Initial D's death.
It is time.
Finally, it's time.
voted for based yuuko
VOTE VOTE VOTE
I don't understand. Is that pronostics?
Lise, Stella, and Yuuko come out on top, in that order
This is a happy and acceptable result.
Best Imouto won!
She doesn't do that well against the other SM girls though.
Stella edged out Sensei
Is this real life?!
not that well
Vivi's pretty likable in the VN for one, but it was mostly a combo of the character design just being introduced earlier in the streams, the voice actress being their (and being very cute), and the Japs following the well known tradition of skewing polls (like how the Gate Guards always win the November BD polls and almost beat Beatrix last year)
We gonna get any mention of Latrova's birthday?
It was mentioned at the start of the stream
eh, where is kouki? Doesn't he usually there sometimes i the stream?
Mira was another good girl who got punished ;_;
I suspect Grampa Bridges saw some heavy shit in the Pacific.
He doesn't hate Yuuya though as far as can be told.
This was a good day
Kouki's been very busy lately. He's one of the writers for Martyrs. He is also working on Forefront, the Pachinko project, and the VR game.
The frailty of the old man in the first half
The way his eyes wispfully dart across the hangar reliving his moments in the plane
Congrats my man
There's a huge gap between her and Iris/Beatrix.
why is Katia so low
Only with Beato, she is only 6.1% difference with Iris
because token moe is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need
She won in the anime so there is no reason to care about her anymore. People root for the underdogs.
The results of that poll are skewed as fuck, but usually it goes Iris/Beatrix >>>>> Everyone else anyway.
Pretty sure that poll came out before the anime finished airing.
And both of them rarely appear at that.
Iris is a generic saber ripoff, and Beatrix has less depth then a B-tier shonen villain.
At least Theo, Katia and Gretel go through character development and really grow on you over time.
I think most of the Vivi voters would go for either Katia or Lise anyways if she wasn't an option.
BiS would like to have a word with you. This is japanese polls were talking about.
42% more votes than your moeblob. Suck it, Katiafags.
She even pulls off moe better, being way more vulnerable and cute than Katia anyways. Moe is not about how much a girl cries, but how much emotional pain they are in, and the best moe girls hide their vulnerability.
To the gents fishing around Jap and Chinese forums for pro-Beatrix quotes, I'd be very curious about their, meaning the Japs and Chinese who are anti-Beatrix, opinions. Are they as visceral in their bashing as the guys over here?
You take that back.
I've only ever seen a couple, like calling her "KusoBea" (which I posted a long time ago), or calling her a lesbian rapist, but that's about it. Even back before BiS, it was heavily implied that Beatrix loved Iris's brother, so the whole lesbian shit was probably just them being goofballs.
Here's one guy who really doesn't like her, though:
(Again, note that even if he calls Beatrix a horrible woman, he still acknowledges that she was probably Iris's brother's lover and kind of tragic in her own way: アイリスの兄の恋人とかその辺でしょうか。)
Japs tend not to be as negative in general though.
As for Chinks, it's hard to find them really bashing anyone (except for the one crazy Lisefag running around).
It's funny that they're still some people (looking at you Type-94) who still try to maintain that Beatrix loving Jurgen was something that wasn't in the original novels when we have all these old posts from 2013-2014 saying that she's doing a lot of what she's doing because of Iris's brother.
I mean, it's there, and as much as it's in between the lines, it's obvious.
BiS would like to have a word with you.
BiS can eat shit! Repeat, BiS can eat shit.
I'll only pick this up if it releases with the option to fight in tanks or on foot.
I have bad news for you anon
I know dude
not wanting to waste BETAs with a Hind-D
He is pretty tame in his bashing, and he is supposed to be one of the more hateful, right? I don't get how knee-jerk reactions seem to be so common in the West today, and not over there. Maybe its our hobby's version of the whole virtue signalling crap.
not Hip master race
Interesting and informative, thanks guys. Have some possibly funloving Beatrix showing off her legs for your time.
not countercharging BETA forces
except for the one crazy Lisefag running around
Now I'm curious
Im pretty sure that is this chink
Well,Lise is a complex character.When I was translating her own story,I felt something strange.See from Theo she was in an evil force,so she was of evil;but see from herself,she was great and with a strong heart,everyone who was in her place would do like her,yeah,what she had done was right and rational.
No, that's Zero. He's the guy who scanned and helped translate the LNs into Chinese. He's a Beatrixfag for the most part.
oh well, they all rook same
Beatrix being a crazy, murderous, Pham-raping lesbian sadist has been a meme in the ML community for a while, so it's sometimes hard to accept evidence to the contrary. I mean, she's still crazy and murderous, but there's usually a reason or justification in her mind for it, and not because she enjoys doing it like many people believe.
The AS spoiler guy really, really did not like Beatrix either (Beatrix dying was good. Could have gone further and just let her bleed off like a nobody in a ditch, but we can't get everything.), and since those were our only spoilers for the longest time, it rubbed off on the rest of the community.
Add in that Beatrix was used in a couple of well known fanfics/quest with the above characterization of a sadistic hedonist and backstabber.
She wants to murder forever, see you in Valhalla is her admitting communism might be a bit shit and challenging Theo's resolve all at once, not that it matters by that stage seeing as everyone is fucking dead, except Annette and Katia
No. Iri's bro didn't like the DDR and she's mad butthurt over Iri existing and being better at being a pilot. Basically Beatrix is a shit human being all around, and that's before we get into the torture porn.
She's just butthurt her brother was a revolutionist and "swim with sharks, you're a shark" thought process
Is that anything new at all? She's a gloryhound who wants to exterminate all the possible GDR defectors from the DDR, she literally killed MCs family as far as he's concerned being a STASI cunt, Axmann is worse though
because the germans in this story are dumb cunts more worried abot HURR NO DEFECTIONS ALLOWED, MUH SOCIALISM, MUH PARTY than the actual Beta, Beatrix in particular commands a Stasi defect-hunter unit that doesn't fuck around, not to mention she is a huge sociopath that would put stalin or hitler to shame
So the damage has been done. Up to this day, most people still think she's a monster rather than a "tragic heroine".
Their tech advancement seems closer to that of peace-time than an all out desperate struggle for survival
Are you trying to prove something?
You would have had a point if exoskeletons and power armor was the international standard for infantry. Tanks were sporting 152mm guns or similar with extreme mobility. Helicopters were sporting rapid fire cusers, ATGM combined with highly advance FCS that enable them to fire behind cover. Not needing to expose themself and extreme mobility which only prototypes IRL had. Extreme rapid fire artillery guns with highly advance rounds etc.
You know, things that people have dreamt of for years instead.
Instead we get a single special snowflake giant robot only used in the year 2001.
And before that we have giant robots with laughable FCS and weaponry and other things.
This really triggered me in TDA, good god they need to upgrade that shit.
Well there is powered armour in the setting. For some reason however its only very rarely used or mentioned, despite the fact that in Unlimited its stated to be standard Eishi gear and that there are full battalions, at least in Japan, using the stuff.
holding hands with Gretel!
Well, she was a heroine, for certain values of the word, and she was definitely a tragedy for a lot of people, so I'd say this is about right.
Maybe they've passed the tipping point where they could do that. The loss of all of Europe and Asia and all the resources they contained, the economies of "safe" nations like the Americas and Australia straining under the weight of having to be the armory and breadbasket of the world, young people being drafted instead of entering universities causing a brain drain effect, and money being thrown at the Alternative Projects instead of into more practical things.
Like Nazi Germany towards the end of the war, the newest and greatest technologies cannot be fielded in enough numbers or with enough reliability.
Probably because it isn't really all that useful. There are plenty of ways to butcher the small strains, and much better options against the larger organisms.
There's a reason Japan was only raising full battalions of it in War Ensemble after everything had gone to shit.
So shit that they cant hit a 18 meters tall mech at close range.
You mean poorly designed shit? God good how do they even grab things? It looks like it would kil the operator if they accidently lifted something heavy.
Aristotle suggests that a hero of a tragedy must evoke in the audience a sense of pity or fear, saying, “the change of fortune presented must not be the spectacle of a virtuous man brought from prosperity to adversity."
Too lewd for Katia.
Right, this is the problem with the assumption that more war means more tech; it's true, but only to a point, and then the opposite happens.
Also, doesn't sound like he's actually giving much thought to the nature of the BETA conflict.
Deal with it
I was saying she is a tragedy to others and the heroine of BiS, so you could say she is a 'tragic heroine', despite the fact that she does not really meet the definition of the hero of a tragedy.
Really, she is just an example of a person with good intentions turning into a monster in the exact same way as almost everyone else who has ended up there.
FCS that can't adjust and hit a pilot doing an eccentric combat maneuver.
so shitty it malfunction
they really need an overhaul for their FCS
"Tragic Heroine" in VN terms, as in a female character who's a romance option and is tragic. It's kind of like how people say Sakura from Fate/Stay is a tragic heroine.
Problem is that they have enough funds to build real world vehicles regardless of being able to fight both BETA or Humans like the TSF
And old people do the job fine when building equipment like they have had in real life. You also disregard the fact that you also have the job of designing shit in the military and approving military equipment for service.
How about you look up military history and how wars in the cold war rapidly changed modern warfare.
1973 Arab-israeli war.
They all saw changes in military development and tactics.
What we have here in muv-luv are real world vehicles and equipment which are the results and products of these wars.
The 1967 lunar war
1973 kashgar landing
1978 operation palaiologos
All these battles would see the change in military equipment and tactics.
And if all money went to the alternative plans then we would only see T-54/55, T-62, M60A1, leopard 1. Things that are before 1973 since money went to other things.
To make my point more clear. Here we have the tree line of russian tank development. Alot of the vehicles here did not see active large scale service but only few because they were simply not what the army wanted or could fill the demands of the army which was easy, reliable to use vehicles with alot of firepower, mobility and protection and would be able to compete with their nato counterpart.
Now throw in the being able to fight the BETA and NATO if needed. Now the rules will change and what have had historically worked and was used will not work.
But for some reason that never happend in muv-luv except for the TSF. Even with such advance material steps in the 50's and the need of different equipment it did not happen.
On the one hand, I don't think I've seen an Anime focused on Germany during the time between WWII and the fall of Berlin's wall before.
On the other hand, this particular franchise is a really bad fit to explore that time period.
You already have the faceless/mindless 'other' in the form of the BETA, so the East/West divide and accompanying Stasi/propaganda-based fuckery come across as both redundant and ludicrous (why are you killing your own troops when there's an alien hoard literally on your doorstep?). It may be realistic that they behave so idiotically, but that doesn't make it any less infuriating to watch.
Without the aliens it might have been a decent dramatic thriller, and without the Stasi/nationalistic dick waving it might have been a decent action series. As it is it's just a disappointment... all that tragedy wasted.
If a member of my squad is about to get killed I should use the body of my mech to block the shot and then explode in spectacular fashion instead of using my shield.
If my girlfriend gets killed I should enter berserk mode, charge at the murderer and then explode just like her while accomplishing nothing.
So, she talks on tv and in 2 minutes a mob forms to overthrow the Nazis. It's really that easy, isn't it?
If I am holding a gun I should throw it to a handcuffed person instead of terminating the target.
If my friend ends up with gunshot wounds I should watch the dawn of a new day while she dies in my arms instead of taking her to a hospital/doctor.
Then of course there was the typical completely illogical and contradictory behavior of a character.
A character betraying everything that mattered the most for half a decade, for no reason, yeah that makes sense. Just because... why not?
But of course the played the "crazy card" at which point there's no need to even bother trying to make it logical.
“Even though we’ve hostily taken over your base and viciously tortured all of your friends, we’re still dependent on you mechanic dudes. So now I’m going to threaten you with interrogation because there’s no possible way you could just sabotage my mecha right before my all-important Stasi mission.”
I love when tryhard edgy villains end up coming off completely retarded.
I wonder if one day, the SM anime will be treated the same way as the supposed Turkeyhandle anime.
It follows the plot close enough that it will never be repudiated that way, even though Watanabe worked his magic on it.
How the hell does she get her hair to do that.
A character betraying everything that mattered the most for half a decade
What part are you referring to?
She channelled her innate imouto-powers to look like her brother's fap material.
Beatrix-sama taught her her techniques.
Must be the shampoo all the female stasi use then.
Jurgen stuffs a baby in her belly before croaking. How terrible of a mother would she be?
Not terrible at all, some cruel and unusual punishment and a hell of a lot of teasing during puberty, but that's it. Its one of the best ways of preventing all the shit happening in SM though. Her obsessing over her kid is far better than obsessing over revenge and ideals.
Gives it to Axmann to babysit. Shenanigans ensue.
If Bea found out that she was going to have a baby, that baby and probably herself would be in Bonn before you could say "Werewolf"
implying she doesn't go full "I must create a better world for my child to live in, so I'll do great evil so he doesn't have too"
implying Axmann and Schmidt would not find a way to use her child as leverage against her
She'd be a good mother, but still a terrible human being. If anything, the child would become her excuse for her extremism. Beatrix would do anything for her kid, even if it involved sacrificing the DDR to ensure s/he had a better future like says. She might even be worse.
The only positive thing it might do is make her less butthurt towards Irisdina. She'd remain the same otherwise.
Course, Theo or Suzy would torture and kill her child right before the end, leading to her going even more "crimes against humanity" to get back at them.
implying that single mom Beato will have the time to do evil shit for the kids first 3 years of life
implying that Iris will abandon her niece or nephew and will not keep Beato in line.
Also this .
torturing a child
implying that Iris will abandon her niece or nephew and will not keep Beato in line.
I think she would.
Theo or Suzy would torture and kill her child right before the end
I don't think either Suzy or Theo would be that retardedly edgy. You'd also probably alienate Walter, Pham, Iris, and Katia if you were to torture a 4-5 year old just because of his/her mother.
It'd be more likely that Suzy would want to use the kid as a hostage to kill Beatrix. The only person I could see getting behind shit like this would be Axmann.
Much better without ribbons.
In the anime style most definitely. Carnelian does the ribbons right.
Suzy is Axmann sister I think she will do it
You'd also probably alienate Walter, Pham, Iris, and Katia if you were to torture a 4-5 year old just because of his/her mother.
Katia's a wallflower who wouldn't do anything. Pham wouldn't give a shit. Iris wouldn't have any love for Beatrix's child, especially if the child looked like a chibi version of it's mother. Walter would, but he'd still serve the rebellion as he doesn't have any choices.
Pham wouldn't give a shit
What makes you say that?
Besides you are forgeting that if Gretel finds out she go in and unload a AK magazine on Suzy
Irisdina would rather kill her own family for no gain than have anything to do with Beatrix
Pham who forgives someone who tortures her, wouldn't care if you totured and killed a five year old
Walter not having the option to desert now that the Stasi are in disarray
Are you drunk, high or retarded?
Wasn't Pham OK with having Lise tortured back in episode 6?
With Iris, I could imagine her thinking that "A child of that women isn't any family of mine".
As for the others, I think you're right.
Her final reaction to Beato's death makes me believe otherwise, but to each their own opinions.
It was a detention
ib4 it leads to torture but I stll think that she will not be ok with that
Putting Lise in detention
How terrible, she's a model student.
I want my dick to be detained inside her.
How can such a lame joke be so funny.
She is a talented actor. Axmann had ''great plans'' for her after all beside the lulz he could get from degrading her. She mastered several languages and was a top student.
Her talents were wasted under Axmann and Beatrix. Now if she had worked in the HVA, now there she would have been able to use her talents to the full.
Beatrix used her as her XO/squad lead. That's pretty good all things considered.
you will never save her from the nightmare of being under Axmann's heal.
I guess Beatrix technically did but that just traded one stasi job for another.
I guess Beatrix technically did but that just traded one stasi job for another.
What the fuck is your problem Anime Beatrix that was like six perfectly good Farkas wasted. And a whole Lise.
Watanabe's innovations aside anon, killing with a TSF beats being whored around and killing babies with rocks.
Her problem is Watanabe's desire to take all redeeming traits out of the Stasi out of some misguided respect for victims who no longer give a damn.
How am I supposed to take Beatrix and the stasi as credible threats when they act so stupidly? She literally just lost a tenth of her overall force, with no real damage done towards the rebellion. WHy is she smiling?
Can't you read Anon? Watanabe's idea, thus anime original. I hear that in the original, she never committed more than one fifth of the Werewolves against the rebels, and that the poor fucks who kept helping hold the Oder-Neisse Line got summarily executed afterwards.
*The poor fucks being the other 4/5s of the Werewolves.
Did the rest of the Guards Regiment? got executed too?
"Spiritual Pillar" of the loyalist my ass.
You can thank Watanabe for that
As far as I know the Felix Dzerzhinsky never gets mentioned in SM, if you mean them. They probably got purged as well.
Yeah I mean those guys
Even if they survived the BETA they ended up on the wrong end of a firing squad
The ending of Unlimited
has hundreds of thousands of humans departing for the stars in a fleet of spaceships. Spaceships either fast enough to reach planets suitable for human life in such a short span that the possible kid of Takeru is not even 10 yet, or with the ability to cryogenicly freeze people and then thaw them later
Both are technologies that are beyond our current reach, that enough or do you all mechs MUST have those bottlecap-sized misiles they use on Macross? how about beam sword/rifles ala Gundam? will that be enough to appease your autism?
Didn't Axmann have overall control of the Guard divisions?
It's not like the stasi and anyone related to them didn't deserve it.
Guys, I just finished Unlimited once, go back for every girl's ending or just plunge into the grim darkness of Japanese 40K?
No Idea about Axmann controlling the Guards Division. It had a Mayor General controlling them in 83 in RL, but this being ML and all.
Also if we go by people related to the Stasi, the highest RL estimate is one in 34 informants. Do you really believe that one in every 34 East Germans should be killed? Even the poor fucks who only opened the mail and the people of the HVA? There is a point were the desire for justice and/or revenge simply hits the point of full on retardedness.
Congratulations cutest imouto on winning your birthday poll.
It doesn't matter whether or not the werewolves deserved to die, they were never convicted of anything in an impartial court, and even if they did deserve to die they are more useful dying in a scrum of Betas than getting shot. If you put them under control of a commissar they have no way to rebel because the commissar can slave their TSF units, so that argument is invalid.
Treat them like warrior slaves until they get chomped by BETA.
I like the way you think anon. Better make those bastards repay the lives they ruined by making them protect the civilians.
You know, many of them were forcibly impressed into the stasi and mindbroken themselves, so the whole situation becomes rather sticky.
No different than what they're used to.
At least one of you fucks gets it. Even Beatrix could have given birth to at least 20 prospective soldiers, had the opportunity been presented and the fan rumors of her sterility proven false. Why kill them, when they could repay in full?
Off by one and obvious bait, but the ride continues. New thread!
Latrova is a waifu.
A waifu of a dead husbando.
a cucked husbando