Why does Northern Ireland even exist?

> Scotland for Scottish
> England for Poles, British and Pakis
> Ireland for the Irish
> Wales for junkies and addicts

See how simple it should be?

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The people in the North are Protestant and view themselves as British. Totally cucked.

Scotland is full of Pakis too you stupid ignorant American cunt.

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Irish monks were one of the main reason western civilization was saved from barbarians and muslims

>It's another plastic paddy thread

Have fun with that

Northern Ireland is for Irish Travelers (Gypsys)

There's less gypsies in the north than there is in the south you nit

But isn't Northern Ireland's ethnic/cultural and religious makeup (for the most part) just too different from the Irish Republic's?

Same reason I'm unsure if us ever gaining Flanders would be a good idea. (Although I guess our country isn't religious enough anymore to care about that aspect, roughly about 3 million people still read from the bible, out of a 17 million people.)

no, it's not. nor do the ones that are here act like they own the place. that's my personal experience of being in england. all your wogs act like they own it. all foreigners in scotland know their place. just like everyone, in fact.

nice larp mate, I've been to Scotland loads of times lol

It's roughly 50/50 catholic and protestant. Catholic will be the majority again by the next census.

because the majority of people there identify as british sweaty x

try and educate yourself

no

>Catholic will be the majority again by the next census.

>sweaty

brrruuuhhhhhhhh

lived in NI for two years (originally from england)

it's a fucking shit hole, the irish don't want it and to accept it would come at a great cost to the irish taxpayer, they're even a drain on the british taxpayer

but we still love you and don't want you to leave

yes

>scotland for scottish
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA

20 years is still too soon tbqh. I'd say leave it until 2050

Well they aren't Irish

In all seriousness, its a pride thing. Britain's ego took some beating when the people they tried to convince the world were worthless beat them at war.

it's a meme you dip
most the people in Anatolia identify as turks. Does that mean it's not rightful Greek land?

Are pikeys really such a big problem?

you have no idea

Many of them actually are British through English colonisation and intermarriage between English and Irish, making them distinct to the rest of Ireland.

I guess you could say they're cucked in how much they suck up to the English (there's murals of Oliver Cromwell, the man responsible for *allegedly* massacring a whole town for simply being Irish). But in terms of demographics and politics, they're not cucked at all.

>not cucked at all.

WE WUZ ORANGEMEN N SHEEIIIITTTT

Because it would kill Britain to give up all their colonies (which is why they hold on to Gibraltar, the Falklands, the Channel Islands, etc.)

Ireland is for the Irish. See Irish unionism has always agreed that Ireland is better off within the United Kingdom. Edward Carson, James Craig etc. all wanted Ireland in the Union and saw themselves as Irish as well as British. Similarly to how Welshmen and Englishmen are British as well as being from their mother nation. But come the revolutionary period in the south, the three southern provinces were overwhelmingly nationalist. It was then only feasible to keep one province with the union.

The northern unionists (read: Protestants) feared persecution from a nationalist (read: Catholic) majority, and saw that an independent Ireland outside the UK would see their own downfall. The British Government at the time had to be pragmatic about the situation and partitioned Ireland, something which neither side wanted, and also partitioned Ulster, in order to keep the unionist majority safe from Catholic reprisal via punitive legislation.

You are ignorant. A Catholic majority will not change the fundamentals of the disadvantages of a United Ireland outside of the UK, nor would it shift the subtantial Catholic small-u unionist opinion. You're a dirty southerner and should know better about the situation in the black north.

>nor would it shift the subtantial Catholic small-u unionist opinion

In fairness, Brexit has changed things a bit. I know more "small u" protestants that favour reunification than catholics favouring the Union since Brexit. Strange times.

Compared to the rest of the UK and the ROI.

>A Catholic majority will not change the fundamentals of the disadvantages of a United Ireland outside of the UK
I never said it would. I was just pointing out that saying "The people in the North are Protestant and view themselves as British" is statistically incorrect.

Where do you get a McDonalds shirt like that? I love their hamburger sandwiches. I could go for a couple more of them tonight.

The Ulstermen have right to their land, you dirty Mick. The Ulster-Scots have done nothing wrong.

Catholics need to be expelled wherever they are found.

I think Michael Moore's politics are driven more by his obesity than by his Catholicism

>Moore is a papist
It all makes sense.

The north is essentially a warning from history. If we keep letting Niggers and Muslims into europe we will all end up like Ireland. A completely alien people have everyone else wrapped around their finger. More will keep coming. They will change the culture, try to take over and cry victim when the natives finally have enough.

Ulster prods are the migrant crisis of the past. They're white muslims and they don't even realise it.

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What's England's obsesion with colonizing places? The Anglo is the eternal gypsy.

Europeans should copy the IRA.
Irish Republicanism, before getting cucked was the model that europeans should follow.
Aryan Republican Army when?
The IRA was great before becoming cucked, what is different between Britcucks in Ireland and mexicans in america?
They are both invaders, but they should have a right to stay as a guest minority in a gaelic, catholic ireland.

You're right there and we'll have to see how things pan out. Shinners are the march on both sides of the border too with a solid anti-Brexit message. Economy in the south, west of the Shannon, is going to pot too.
It may all kick off again in Derry you know. The mammies in the west bank will want their cheap groceries from the Aldi in Letterkenny without having to pass customs every weekend.
And if we've learnt anything from the past century of Irish history, it's that terror works - and Orange terror is more terrifying than the other side.

Alright fair play. I read too much into the
> Catholic will be the majority again by the next census.
bit and assumed you were implying that UI was on the way in a few years.

I've no problem with Brits. I don't even have a problem with Orangemen. I'd let them have their wee marches whenever in an independent Ireland. Most people in the south wouldn't care about them. My only gripe is the weird desire to march past/through Nationalist areas.

I.. y-you i mean we...if... no wait... fuck you are right.
When we catholics become a majority in the north we will absolutely FUCK ourselves.

>Shinners are the march on both sides of the border
That scares me as a nationalist. Not of the Shinner/SDLP kind.

They got to go back.

You're trying to draw parallels where there are none. The plantation Ulster only worked because of the flight of the Anglo-Norman Earls to France. The Normans first came to Ireland in 1167. And the plantation began in the first 10 years of the 17th century.

>bit and assumed you were implying that UI was on the way in a few years.
nah 2050 at the very earliest

Dispute the picture.

Catholics are more leftist than Protestants and Orthodox.

The 'based' IRA were unironically communists who trained with Muslims.

How do the Irish live with the shame of being so trashy?

I'm trolling desu

ITT: People who are wrong

NI exists because we didn't want any more bogtrotters (yes, the people of NI are Irish too-a different breed of irish, but irish all the same) to cause further conflict on the island.

Post WOI, when things weren't exactly stable in Europe as a whole, the last thing we needed was more fighting in the back garden.
Thus, we gave NI the option to opt out.

NOTE: We did NOT cling to it or demand to keep it; we merely gave them the option to stay with us.
The Irish fought a civil war over this, and thankfully the pro-treaty forces won.

NI was never meant to be a proper country. We tried once again to let the Republic of Ireland have it by offering to sell it to them in WW2 in return for them joining the allies; they refused.
It is a failed statelet which Carson attempted to turn into a proper country within the Union (akin to wales, scotland, etc) but then his successors turned it back into a retarded memestate.

The Loyalists-the manchildren of the "British" people-were so inept at governing the province that they provoked the Irish Catholics to start a campaign of terror which shook the country to the core. If that wasn't bad enough, the Loyalists then formed paramilitary groups and killed almost exclusively civilians, doing little else than forever giving the nationalists ammunition to use against Loyalism in NI.

tl;dr- NI was set up to prevent the pro-british people in Ulster from chimping out and fucking everything up. Regardless of the fact that NI was set up, Unionists continued to chimp out and fuck everything up.

NI is the great shame of the isles.
Ireland should be all British or all Irish.

Unionists LARPers need to fuck off. We don't want you and never did.

The IRA are communist you stupid LARPing virgin.

Plenty of Provies weren't communists, especially the culchies. They really hated the idea of collectivisation. It caused massive upheaval in the gaols. The leadership were unironically commies but the average soldier wasn't.

It's more because the white anti-colonialist movements (FLQ, IRA) took inspiration from some of the non-white ones. It's more because of the spirit of the 1960s than because of Catholicism.

The IRA of 1919-1923 weren't though, that's what he's talking about.

Only one (relevant) splinter of the IRA is truly communist, or even socialist. Despite their mantra or apparent "goals", the IRA of the Troubles was more about just killing Brits/levelling the playing field than actually achieving unification. The smart republicans realised that they were obviously not going to win, so they turned it into a propaganda war.

Now they're in government.

Does this mean the Ulster unionists are fascists?

They're the most right wing people in Europe tbf

Ulster Unionists are actually quite liberal; they vote in the DUP not because of their policy, but because they keep the balance by rivalling Sinn Fein.

One example is the DUP's opposition to gay marriage; every time it comes up people condemn it en masse, and then the DUP lose votes, and then SF gain ground, and then the DUP gain votes.

Thinking that the DUP are actually representative of Unionism is retarded, they're just the best bet against the fenians.

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>¿Guerra de carreras cuando?
heh

Northern Ireland is 99% white.

Alot of our immigrants are asians and only low class shitter give a fuck about the political side of N.Ireland when the stupid elections come around

northern ireland is heaven on earth

Personally I wouldn't class the people of NI as white.
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It's an economically deprived memestate and probably the worst part of the UK.
For the love of fuck, stop listening to what retards here will try and tell you. It's a shithole full of one of the most retarded electorates in Europe.

Its not, its fucking shit. We swapped niggers for smicks, who are essentially the same thing.

Orange marches were never contentious in the past, even during the start of the Troubles. In fact one particular Orange march which did receive negative attention was the sole annual march in the Free State. A Fianna Fáil TD criticised the march in 1969 in Rossnowlagh, Co Donegal and accused the Donegal Protestants of aiding the UVF in bombing RTÉ masts - and went on to claim that if the march went ahead then there would be backlash from the Catholic majority. Back then Sinn Féin actually supported the march and said they, the Orangemen of Donegal, should carry on. They didn't.
Orangemen marching through nationalist areas before the Troubles they would usually not play anything and simply march silently on in a Catholic area, and play the tune afterwards.

The fuss was manufactured on both sides when Sinn Féin made it a political issue in the 1980s and onwards and made lots of residents associations for the nationalists who live in interface areas, such as Drumcree. Orangemen would also keep playing their tunes in nationalist areas - as an expression of defiance and stubbornness. Obviously this isn't a recipe for success and we're left with total nonense situations like Twadell.

Northern Ireland is "catching up with the times" and becoming more "progressive" as we speak.
I see niggers in my local town and a lot of asians

The reason people are cucking the marches is because they are able to. In the past everyone knew trying to stop it was impossible.
Now people are tired of the mess.

Thankfully it seems the retards over there have learned not to let the 12th be a day of drunken chaos as it has been for decades, however the 11th night is still abhorrent.

>Welshmen and Englishmen are British as well as being from their mother nation.
Lies. A man can have but one allegiance and that is to his blood, not a crown. By protecting our blood we are carrying out the will of God as he has made us. Anything which gets in the way of this sacred duty to our blood and country is evil and should be slaughtered as the inhuman animals they are at heart.

I think bands and supporters make it worse than it is. If it was just the Orangemen walking, they could do it out my backgarden if they wanted. It's realistically the dregs that follow along and the dregs that come to be offended that annoy me.

It's your own fault for voting DUP blindly and in doing so directly aiding Sinn Féin.

>Poland
#1 EU fanboy
>Hungary
#2 EU fanboy

You can't be right wing and pro EU.

Is Northern Ireland considered a country or something like province?

I do not vote DUP! I am catholic. I could not vote SF either. I do not even vote because they are all the same progressive arseholes, the lot of them. Even DUP are becoming so.

There is no one to vote for. You are damned if you do vote, no matter who, and you are damned if you don't.

>You can't be right wing and pro EU.
You can be pro EU handouts though, which is the case here.

It's a weird mix. In actual UK (Great Britain) we don't think of them much/at all. Many people forget they even exist.
The fact that they are on a separate island gives some apparent weight to them over Wales, but in reality I just see them as a province-and not a very good one.

Nobody cares or really even wants to keep NI unless it suits us at the time (i.e, stemming the flames of scottish separatism).
Anyone who pretends that UK should keep it is a retard or one of those "muh empire" faggots.

Ireland should be all British or all Irish.

Your best bet is unironically unification then FG, my guy. Post-brexit, you will become the back door into the UK through the EU.

The ROI isn't as assfucked by the EU as people make it out to be. Dublin is about 3/4ths of the way of hitting London level, but other than that things are fine.

This is probably bait but I'll bite.

You fail to understand the justification for Protestant paranoia. Ulster Protestants are well aware of their history and what happened to their people in the past.
After partition, the south did nothing to remove the Protestant paranoia at least for the first 50 years. Ask any Irishman and they will tell you that the Roman Catholic church had immense power and influence over the Irish government.
The partition of Ireland is comparable to the partition of India where the Pakistani Muslims feared being a minority in a Hindu majority nation.

Now, especially with the 2015 vote in the south, the claim that the Irish Protestant minority has any chance of being persecuted by a Catholic majority is groundless.

> Carson attempted to turn into a proper country within the Union
This is historically inaccurate. Carson wanted all of Ireland in the Union. He despised the partition and saw it as the Englishman's betrayal. It's only ironic that Stormont has erected a statue of him in the grounds.

>country or something like province?
Neither. They don't even have the prerequisite counties to qualify as a province. I'd guess they are a territory of the crown in personal union with Great Britain but not part of it suggested by the name of the United Kingdom.

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This user is correct. Republicanism is left-wing for propaganda purposes.

No. Unionism has several different strands. Some may be fascist but they're not mainstream.

Eh, I don't really care about it.

It isn't bait.
I totally understand that to Ulster Protestants it was probably a scary situation, Britain's backdoor apartheid. They probably saw themselves as stranded on an island full of people who wanted to strip them of their culture, their identity, and even bring harm to them.

All of this I can understand, however the difference with NI is that the Loyalist government went on to bring about a set of laws which heavily dryfucked the irish catholics who were stuck north of the border.

Then remember that the Troubles were a result of Loyalist aggression and that the Loyalist-British forces killed more civilians than the IRA.
Then realise that Loyalists seem to believe that Ulster always had some connection to Britain, or that it was less Irish than the rest of Ireland.

Yes, the political-cultural fears of Ulster Protestants were arguably justified at the point of parition, but the continued existence of Northern Ireland is a laughable fuckup on our part and we have seen countless examples of the people there being simply unable to govern themselves.

Sever the ties and leave them to the fenians. They're not worth keeping.

too keep us in-fighting instead of just getting on with the job and building the country

>ireland could be like hong kong, without any chinks

Join the non cucked, original church, follow natural law and walk with God.

>Briton New Testament
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Brought to the UK and Ireland when Joeseph of Aramathea fled persecution 4 years after the crucifixion

>Egyptian Old Testament
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Its an Old,Old testament from creation, an understandable Adam and Eve story (in plain english) on to the destruction of Egypt by 10 plagues.

It's an expression of culture. The history of the Ulster Protestant and the trials and tribulations they have faced is worth marching about. When the weather's nice and the route is good, it's a really good day out with the family. Politicians on both sides make it worse than it has to be.
And because it's an expression of culture, parading has exploded in popularity since the end of the Troubles. The band scene has never been bigger than it is now. With that we're obviously going to need good management and leadership and we won't find it in Sinn Féin or the DUP.

The ROI is so much richer and more developed than Northern Ireland, that they probably wouldn't even want it, even if we offered it to them. Northern Ireland is an absolute dump. One of the poorest regions of Western Europe. They'd only drag the micks down. It's pretty much a North/South Korea issue.

Cromwell's only mistake was not formulating a transfer of power before he died.

>Your best bet is unironically unification then FG
Not based enough to get us out of this mess. They are cucked.
Only good party is NP but they just started up this year and not even registered yet. They are getting there though but i doubt they will ever get into real power.

> Post-brexit, you will become the back door into the UK through the EU
We will be fucking swamped!

> The ROI isn't as assfucked by the EU as people make it out to be. Dublin is about 3/4ths of the way of hitting London level, but other than that things are fine.
idk mate, they are very assfucked by the eu. And dublin is gone, we dont even know it yet but its gone. Not an Irish city anymore. Dublin has a big part to play in voting. If it is a multi cult liberal dump then it makes things a whole lot harder.

I just don't need to hear about how much some wee smick hates fenians. The marching and sashbash just doesn't bother me as much as the people that come with it. No one is willing to hash anything out because that would require compromise and that would mean no one would get to use the "themm'uns" card.

>colonial asks why Norn Iron exists when without the Ulster Plantations being the blueprint for colonisation of the new world, his nation would never have even come into existence in the first place.

settler pls

he did

>take power
>pay jew loan back with country

pretty based for a brit

>end westphalianism when?

But Northern Ireland isn't going to do you any good whatsoever. Brexit is going to assfuck you regardless.
In the ROI, regardless of the EU "fucking" Ireland, you will fare better than in NI where you're either a Socialist or represented by the DUP, who are utterly and entirely incompetent as well as corrupt as shit.

Yeah, thats totally how 99% of the interactions between bongs and krauts on Sup Forums go.

Hawaii for the Hawaiians

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feinian means honorary irish man btw, as in a tolerated blow in

so that nice indian girl is a feinian,in the purest sense of the word

Oh were filled with Chinese families, and have been for years.
Was weird to me when I sent home.for the first time in a while and seen a black family in my mother's village.
Also if we remain the land border between the eu and UK well probably become a lot more multicultural

and yet Sinn Féin have only ever been in government in the North

>Gael
>Borrowed from Scottish Gaelic Gàidheal, from earlier Gaoidheal, from Middle Irish Gaídel, from Old Irish Goídel (“Irishman”), a loanword from Old Welsh Guoidel (“wild man, warrior”) (also recorded as a personal name in the Book of Llandaff), from Proto-Brythonic *guɨðel (“savage, woodsman”), from Proto-Celtic *wēdelos (“savage, woodsman”)
>savage
>woodsman
>SAVAGE
>WOODSMAN

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