So in Florida there is apparently a town that has flooded out, and the only road that is not underwater is being blocked by this cock bag.
He claims that the county should pay him to let the people fleeing the flood cross.
Is this the true fruits of AnCap?
What does Sup Forums think should happen to this AnCap?
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His land, his choice.
I'd violate the NAP and physically remove his vehicle
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You foreigners really don't understand how little fucks Americans have for their countrymen.
But he is violating the NAP, do you AnCaps not believe in the NAP?
Anyone know the name of the town this is in?
I'd totally go take my toe truck and impound him.
Stupid motherfuckers should have built themselves a proper road. If he allows traffic he'll cede control of his property and may lose it permanently depending on how easement law works.
His land, his choice. If it were life and death I'd move the van but if it were just my poor planning then I'd cash my insurance check and fucking leave.
What really matters is if there is an existing easement permitting traffic through that area. If any of you fuckers buy a home, pay for a copy of the plat map (usually available at your county courthouse) and KNOW all easements and restrictions.
Real estate law isn't based on feels. Know your shit or get your shit pushed in, your choice. That guy likely doesn't want a shitload of niggers driving through his property for years. He's no fool.
He's perfectly free to do as he pleases. So are the people attempting to flee. He's free to block the road. They're free to violently remove his soul from his body for blocking the road. Perfectly fine. If it where me I would just ask for some pocket change.
Kill it with fire.
You obviously dont understand what the NAP is if you think someone blocking a road he owns is breaking the NAP.
he is not violating the nap
Through his own willful action he is putting them into harms way, that is an agressive act.
>I'd totally go take my toe truck and impound him.
Except you don't have the authority to impound unless a property owner of the land it's on or a cop calls you to do so.
Otherwise it's grand theft auto and the owner could sue your nuts off. If he interrupts an illegal tow he can have YOUR shit impounded and put you out of business. You'd be looting with your vehicle if there's some statute for that in play.
Many low end repo truck drivers have no fucking idea how the laws work. My bro bought a Mustang, lost his job and continued to drive it while hunting another ride. We'd done many repos and knew our county requires Claim of Delivery paperwork issued by the local magistrate to legally recover a vehicle from private property. The first repo driver showed up demanding the car but he made the mistake of being a dick. My bro called the cops whose dispatcher confirmed he was right. Dick driver left under police order.
Second, but polite driver showed up with paperwork a week later. My bro helped him load car on rollback because he was not a dick.
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This behavior is the epitome of "small man in weighty affairs, making himself known" syndrome. Get the sheriff out there.
Select all vehicles.
oh no, that sucks. it's almost like he can do whatever he wants with his property.
It's not his property, it's a semiprivate road meaning there are other property owners who share acess and ownership. If a single other landowner wants to give access he has no authority to unilaterally block it's access.
burn his shit down to the ground and drag it out of the way, hoooman life supersedes petty shit like this
Did they pay or help him with the construction?
So why don't they pay him? Too many 500 dollar hotdogs to buy?
in the image it says the HOA made the exit, then someone bought the property, if he owns the property he can block off access if he wants.
>Gov comes in
>"Sorry but your property rights don't exist"
>Land Owners everywhere see no reason to own or maintain private roads since the government can just waltz in and force them off
You do not know what socialism wrought
because he doesn't get to hold peoples property and life as ransom. Hes probably some belligerent boomer who probably would have died off in the 80s if it wasn't for preventative health care.
>people's property and life
People aren't drowning because someone is blocking a road. What's happening is commercial trucks aren't using and probably destroying the dirt road.
>Semi-
>private
>muh feefees
gas yourself faggot. Nothing is being held for ransom. These people will just have to wait for the public roads to clear.
>Is this the true fruits of AnCap?
It's a pretty good argument FOR AnCaps, not against them
>GOVERNMENT ROADS OUT OF SERVICE = You're Fucked.
>Solution?
>AnCap has own road
If you had MORE AnCaps you'd have MORE roads, but instead you relied on Government, and now you're fucked.
Under the NAP, violating his property rights by trespassing on his road is an aggressive act. By blocking it, he is exercising his right to defend his land. In fact, he would be justified in shooting anyone who tried to use the road, and he's being kind and merciful based on what the NAP actually allows.
This is your mind on libertarianism.
what part of it being a shared road don't you understand? Probably all of it since you are a giant fucking retard
>commercial trucks destroy roads
>Commercial truck is parked on road
He has the right to do it, but morally I think he is in the wrong for not doing his best to support the local community in their time of need.
Yup. Nothing should happen to this based propertarian.
Remember, people who don't understand the necessary a priori truth of AnCap are niggers who can be claimed as free goods. Lotta niggers ITT.
>people getting cucked by an old ass Uhaul and what appears to be a dodge truck
>trees that could be cut on either side
Nothing a wet rag and a lighter wouldn't solve if my life depended on it.
>but this is what you get for living in a HOA or former HOA community instead of living out in the rurals and having your own exit plans replanned.
it's america right, can't you just shoot him?
it doesn't necessarily say it is a shared road, all it says is that someone made the road as an exit, then this person bought the property that the road goes through. if you look at the imgur link it says that the sheriff and public workers have been out to the location, and it later admits that "We even called the #countysherriffs office and the officer couldn't even do anything legally."
it is his property and he can do what he wants with it
not legally
libertarianism only works if the people inside its utopia are chilled out enough to not snipe a baby that crawls an inch over their property line
libertarians need good judgement, something modern ones do not typically have
Wait a second. This is an emergency exit we are talking about. Road should be opened since people still live in the community. This is like someone buying an apartment and blocking the fire escape for the floors above...not cool
AnCap principles do not benefit the community, they benefit the individual. That is why they are fiercely at odds with all of these socialists and pseudo-communists.
>It's not his property, it's a semiprivate road meaning there are other property owners who share acess and ownership.
The answer is to be found on the plat map. If that county has a GIS site which also contains easement info it would be easy to look up.
It's easy to call a road semi-private but absent legal proof of status no spectators can say for sure.
Another relevant legal concept may be adverse possession. Read this:
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The owner may block his road to prevent losing that property to adverse possession.
>If you had MORE AnCaps you'd have MORE roads, but instead you relied on Government, and now you're fucked.
Not through my fucking property. I bought it with no road easements and maintain control by barrier methods. If necessary I'd ditch across a road I owned or remove it completely to retain my property rights.
They should've invested their capital better. Sounds to me like he's offering to let them on his road if they pay him for use of his property. Fucking commies expecting free shit for being in a "natural disaster"
this is why guns exist.
dudes is going to be on everyone shit list. user we are talking about a fucking emergency exit
This is what commie liberals believe
Muh words are violence
If you have let the left lay claim to all social cooperation, you've given them a far greater victory than any communist revolution.
it's not an emergency exit anymore, it might have been when the HOA owned the land but now it has a new owner who gets to decide its purpose.
No, that's not how it works. Otherwise there's nothing preventing me from buying the 4 roads around the city block where you live, and preventing anyone or anything from entering or leaving until you starve to death.
Better to beat him and then drown him in a nearby stream or something. Another victim of the flooding. Some cockbag wants to play games with the county...he can do it with someone else's life.
Cop here. Would order him to move his vehicle, since one could make an argument that it's a matter of life or death. If he refused, would arrest him and have his vehicle towed out of the way. At worst would have to go to training. No DA would charge me, and in a civil suit no judge or jury would find me guilty of anything he might allege against me, so I wouldn't sweat it.
God bless my shiny badge that grants me extra rights.
>what are ingress and egress laws
>non we are talking about a fucking emergency exit
Show us the applicable Florida or Federal law. If everyone is evacuated there is no emergency. If they remain by choice there is no emergency.
They may be a neighborhood of ultraniggers. We don't have the whole story.
I am not understanding this road though. In order for it to be an emergency road it must link to all the properties right?
this. but the guy you're replying to is still right, he's going to be on everyones shit list
Am I the only one that would happily pay the toll, thank him, and then drive off to safety?
I'm not stating that they own that sort of concept, but it's typically the socialists and pseudo-communists that whine about AnCaps
> This is like someone buying an apartment and blocking the fire escape for the floors above...not cool
no, it is like someone buying an entire apartment and kicking everyone out then refusing to let people who have no right to be there use the fire exit.
>What does Sup Forums think should happen to this AnCap?
Social ostracism. He'll become despised and hated by his community.
In the free market you can exploit people; but it will destroy your reputation.
he is at liberty to do this, but i would kill him if that's what i needed to do to pass.
he is not violating the letter of the NAP
but in an ANCAP society, this terribly egregious move of his will be remembered and paid back in kind in due course
Actually there is a law that is there is an emergency the police do not need a warrant to enter your property. IE someone screaming or in this case the potential victims of a flooding trapped inside homes.
its only an "emergency" road based on whatever subjective standards the hoa originally created it on the basis of. unless the feds own the road, its meaning can subjectively change on a whim depending who owns it. you can build a garage at the end of it, for instance, and say it's a driveway now.
They'd be violating the nap therefore lethal force would be required
And he would.and should put bullets into your commie cuck was
Exactly. He should have been shooting the trespassers. Especially that cunt who's violating the NAP with his photon emitter.
Again it's not his road, he bought the property at the end of the neighborhood which the road cuts across but the fact it says semiprivate means the road cuts across multiple people's property, not just his own, which means it's a shared access road and a single property owner has no authority to unilaterally deny it's use. The people within the neighborhood who own none of that property also have may have no right to use it depending in how the lots are distributed but any of the other property owners on the opposite side of the truck who the truck owner does share access with may grant access to every single person in the neighborhood. Without such laws a person, such as the truck owner for instance, could be denied all access to his own property by the surrounding land owners.
This. He's going to keep waking up to find flat tires, poisoned animals, and toxins all over his lawn. And that's the least of it.
Am I the only one that would happily knee cap the faggot, and moved his shit out of the way myself?
>Cop here. Would order him to move his vehicle, since one could make an argument that it's a matter of life or death.
Wondering if he shot you if he'd get charges laid.
it is a road at the end of a neighborhood that likely leads out to a different neighborhood or a main road. it's original purpose was as an emergency exit but now that it is owned by an individual it is no longer an emergency exit.
Die you just BTFO this whole thread. Good shit bruh.
Of course the police don't given an bona fide emergency or probable cause, so copbro ITT could do as he said and be legal.
Anyone else not an LEO would be breaking the law.
What should happen is people stop doing business with him, associating with him, or selling their goods and services to him until he stop being an a-hole or leaves.
it isn't an alleyway bro, it cuts through multiple properties as you said. the part of the road that cuts through his property is his road. he can dig it up if he wants, or perhaps build a gigantic structure in the middle.
But this is not happening in anarcho capitalists country. It's happening in a capitalist democracy.
>Am I the only one that would happily knee cap the faggot, and moved his shit out of the way myself?
Nah.
But you would head to prison for that.
Except the cops have no power in this situation. They were called and said they didn't have the legal power to make him move his truck on HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Fucking cops like you...no wonder so many nigs nog out and talk about killing pigs
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If I were in the right he would. Hell, even if I were in the wrong he probably would. I'd probably shoot him first though, itchy trigger finger and all.
>Many low end repo truck drivers have no fucking idea how the laws work.
Tell me about it. We had a guy sneak on military base through a side gate at like 2am through a side gate to repo a car. Fucker got his shit pushed in. I don't know whatever happened to him but he's lucky he didn't get shot.
That's literally how it works, and why the ideology is for retards.
They rely on this to keep society functioning.
This. But for being such an asshole, the entire town should shun him.
this is what i wanted to say, he will be remembered as a dick and no one will wanna help him when he needs it. That is if this is the whole story and some dick heads didn't march up to him and demand he move his truck and such.
it likely was never an official public road, if he buys the property that contains the path then he can decide what to do with it. they have had cops go out there and they can't legally force him to move the truck.
>Wondering if he shot you if he'd get charges laid.
Of course. He'd go to PMITA prison for life. Ventilating LEO is generally frowned upon by courts. It's also not smart since surviving LEO may ventilate you instead of bothering to capture your silly ass. Saves me tax money so I'm good with that.
The reason he's going on the property is to move a vehicle from it's rightful position. The fuck has that bullshit you posted got anything to do with that?
He isn't witnessing someone dying and going to save them. These people are not in immediate danger.
this is the only valid response. Jesus Christ all you fucking chimps wanting violence or to violate his private property rights. I fucking hate all you fuckers I swear to god I'll kill every last one of you if you fucking pull that shit on me. Don't fucking tread on me Motherfucker
>If I were in the right he would. Hell, even if I were in the wrong he probably would. I'd probably shoot him first though, itchy trigger finger and all.
My question is this, assuming he's quicker on the draw... imagine all of this being caught on your dashcam.
>You pull up, get out aggressively, move towards him demanding he remove the vehicule.
>He demands a warrant to be on his private property, you don't produce one
>you reach for your weapon, he gets his quicker and shoots you dead
Would he be charged?
He's taking advantage of eminent domain. The city can take it by force but they must compensate him for use of the road.
You can legally defend yourself from unlawful arrest in the USA. In this case, the officer's use of force was not appropriate; You would most likely be acquitted
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Find me a single property that is surrounded on all sides you fucking tard muncher.
no its not for retards because people will see that jerkish, wicked, mean, rude, heartless, ridiculous, absurd, obscene, etc actions like those NEVER profit the person who does them anything besides pain and suffering later
ok...so its all about the context user. Its not some clear sunny day its an emergency weather situation. adjust common sense accordingly
This is why cops like you deserve death. Inshallah a stray hollow point finds a way through a flakjacket. Boot stomping scum
well not even the whole road just the portion of the road by his property. it makes no fucking sense not to just let it go...hes likely like I said before a broke fucking boomer.
It's like you don't understand police powers are expanded in a state of emergency or something. I could take your damn car (in my state) if I needed it and could articulate that I required it to save a life.
you're an idiot. They've had cops out there and they can't force him to move it legally. You dumb cunt at least look up the situation before you sperg out like a tard
So now you're trying to tell me that this guy owns the only road out of the city? They should probably kill themselves for being so stupid. If not, then they can GO AROUND.
It amuses me how many fags here don't think this is douchy. Don't get me wrong, if this was a SHTF then i'd completely understand this hostility, but to be such a jew you're scamming refugees and see nothing wrong with that is just funny.