Evola was Right about America

Just look at todays events..

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>A fucking adult that never lost his teenage edge
Congrats

How the fuck is Evola edgier than anything on here? The Man was practically our Progenitor.
You sound like a civic nationalist

What did Evola say about America and why should we care about his guido opinions?

didn't he support that cuck Mussolini which was italian Donald Trump basically?

He was right about most things.. Except walking outside during a bombing raid.

Who the fuck is Ebola and why does he look like he died from it.

Dead people.

That wasn't a question and sage goes in all fields.

>On Sup Forums
>Doesn't know who Evola is
Read a Book you 14 Year Old.

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He said that America had become niggerfied & turned into the jews' attack dog/propaganda machine & the only way to Save it would be defeat it in a War.

>[ ... ] America is “negrified” not only racially and demographically, but above all in its civilization, in the behavior, and tastes of Americans, even when there has been no actual mixing with negro blood.

Based Bowden.

>>[ ... ] America is “negrified” not only racially and demographically, but above all in its civilization, in the behavior, and tastes of Americans, even when there has been no actual mixing with negro blood.

t. europoorean

I personally blame that on the long presence of Welfare & the historic push of the jews that have controlled America for so long to having the masses rely on a huge government, seeing as the jewish race is obsessed with implementing communism everywhere but israel. This has indeed made Americans "niggerifed"

so evola predicted amerimutts?

>Another obvious aspect of American primitivism concerns the concept of “bigness.” Werner Sombart has successfully put his finger on it in saying that “they mistake bigness for greatness.” Now, this trait is not found in all non-European peoples or peoples of color. For example, an authentic Arab of the old race, a redskin, an East Asian are not overly impressed by merely material, quantitative, ostentatious size, including that related to machinery, technology and the economy (apart, of course, from already Europeanized individuals). It is a trait found only in truly primitive and childish races like the Negro. It is no exaggeration to assert that the foolish pride of Americans in spectacular “bigness,” in the “achievements” of their civilization, reek of the Negro psyche.

Yeah. Their going-on about "Judeo-Christian" values shows how Jewed they are, because Jews played no part in our values, which are Romano-Christian if they're anything.

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>Italy
>criticizing anyone

>the absolute state of nu/pol/

t. Big Ben

The guy was so black pilled he would leave a disc of MGSV behind if he lived in this day and age.

So was Jung.
>>Another thing that struck me was the great influence of the Negro, a psychological influence naturally, not due to the mixing of blood. The emotional way an American expresses himself, especially the way he laughs, can best be studied in the illustrated supplements of the American papers; the inimitable Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro. The peculiar walk with loose joints, or the swinging of the hips so frequently observed in Americans, also comes from the Negro. American music draws its main inspiration from the Negro, and so does the dance. […] The vivacity of the average American, which shows itself not only at baseball games but quite particularly in his extraordinary love of talking - the ceaseless gabble of American papers is an eloquent example of this - is scarcely to be derived from his Germanic forefathers, but is far more like the chattering of a Negro village. […] Thus the American presents a strange picture: a European with Negro behaviour and an Indian soul.
-- Carl Jung

Kek, probly would
Must read more Jung.

Yeah I'm totally Italy.
Pasta pasta bolognese boppity boopy.

>Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro

Can't unsee.

Wasn't he like an 1/8 native American

Every American is a hodgepodge mix-up.

You will never be as uncucked as Julius Evola.

Evola was right about alot of things, but he wasnt perfect. He without a doubt was biased towards Mussolini who effectively accomplished shit nothing, and he was way too soft on Jews. I believe Miguel Serrano had some good criticism of him.

Read ya fucking plebbit faggot READ.Use google or wathever search up on him and read.

Who, what did he do. Basic Gestault please?

He wasn't blackpilled. He was aware that life is a circle outside time and space. He was aware of suffering and that the future would bring more, but suffering is what life is about. He welcomed it. Things will correct themselves in time.

It didn't kill him tho, I love that most about him. Id imagine it similar to a state of meditation.

>[Just one observation before the lection: Evola's America is like Guénon's Orient, less geographical than conceptual. Nowadays, more and more, there is a little bit of America everywhere, and the real Orient is hard to find. - R.I.]

>The recently deceased John Dewey was applauded by the American press as the most representative figure of American civilization. This is quite right. His theories are entirely representative of the vision of man and life which is the premise of Americanism and its «democracy».

>The essence of such theories is this: that everyone can become what he wants to, within the limits of the technological means at his disposal. Equally, a person is not what he is from his true nature and there is no real difference between people, only differences in qualifications. According to this theory anyone can be anyone he wants to be if he knows how to train himself.

>This is obviously the case with the «self-made man»; in a society which has lost all sense of tradition the notion of personal aggrandizement will extend into every aspect of human existence, reinforcing the egalitarian doctrine of pure democracy. If the basis of such ideas is accepted, then all natural diversity has to be abandoned. Each person can presume to possess the potential of
everyone else and the terms «superior» and «inferior» lose their meaning; every notion of distance and respect loses meaning; all life-styles are open to all. To all organic conceptions of life Americans oppose a mechanistic conception. In a society which has «started from scratch», everything has the characteristic of being fabricated. In American society appearances are masks not faces. At the same time, proponents of the American way of life are hostile to personality.

Some less than others....

>The Americans' «open-mindedness», which is sometimes cited in their favor, is the other side of their interior formlessness. The same goes for their «individualism». Individualism and personality are not the same: the one belongs to the formless world of quantity, the other to the world of quality and hierarchy. The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, «I think, therefore I am»: Americans do not think, yet they are. The American «mind», puerile and primitive, lacks characteristic form and is therefore open to every kind of standardization.

>In a superior civilization, as, for example, that of the Indo-Aryans, the being who is without a characteristic form or caste (in the original meaning of the word), not even that of servant or shudra, would emerge as a pariah. In this respect America is a society of pariahs. There is a role for pariahs. It is to be subjected to beings whose form and internal laws are precisely defined. Instead the modern pariahs seek to become dominant themselves and to exercise their dominion over all the world.

>There is a popular notion about the United States that it is a «young nation» with a «great future before it». Apparent American defects are then described as the «faults of youth» or 'growing pains». It is not difficult to see that the myth of «progress» plays a large part in this judgment. According to the idea that everything new is good, America has a privileged role to play among civilized nations. In the First World War the United States intervened in the role of «the civilized world» par excellence. The «most evolved» nation had not only a right but a duty to interfere in the destinies of other peoples.

>The structure of history is, however, cyclical not evolutionary. It is far from being the case that the most recent civilizations are necessarily «superior». They may be, in fact, senile and decadent. There is a necessary correspondence between the most advanced stages of a historical cycle and the most primitive. America is the final stage of modern Europe. Guenon called the United States «the far West», in the novel sense that the United States represents the reductio ad absurdum of the negative and the most senile aspects of Western civilization.

>What in Europe exist in diluted form are magnified and concentrated in the United States whereby they are revealed as the symptoms of disintegration and cultural and human regression. The American mentality can only be interpreted as an example of regression, which shows itself in the mental atrophy towards all higher interests and incomprehension of higher sensibility. The American mind has limited horizons, one conscribed to everything which is immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal, basic and leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life. Life itself in American terms is entirely mechanistic.

>The sense of «I» in America belongs entirely to the physical level of existence. The typical American neither has spiritual dilemmas nor complications: he is a «natural» joiner and conformist.

>The primitive American mind can only superficially be compared to a young mind. The American mind is a feature of the regressive society to which I have already referred.

>American Morality

>The much-vaunted sex appeal of American women is drawn from films, reviews and pin-ups, and is in large print fictitious. A recent medical survey in the United States showed that 75 per cent of young American women are without strong sexual feeling and instead of satisfying their libido they seek pleasure narcissistically in exhibitionism, vanity and the cult of fitness and health in a sterile sense.

>American girls have «no hang-ups about sex»; they are «easy going» for the man who sees the whole sexual process as something in isolation thereby making it uninteresting and matter-of-fact, which, at such a level, it is meant to be. Thus, after she has been taken to the cinema or a dance, it is something like American good manners for the girl to let herself be kissed — this doesn't mean anything. American women are characteristically frigid and materialistic. The man who «has his way» with an American girl is under a material obligation to her. The woman has granted a material favor. In cases of divorce American law overwhelmingly favors the woman. American women will divorce readily enough when they see a better bargain. It is frequently the case in America that a woman will be married to one man but already «engaged» to a future husband, the man she plans to marry after a profitable divorce.

>«Our» American Media

>Americanization in Europe is widespread and evident. In Italy it is a phenomenon which is rapidly developing in these post-war years and is considered by most people, if not enthusiastically, at least as something natural. Some time ago I wrote that of the two great dangers confronting Europe - Americanism and Communism - the first is the more insidious. Communism cannot be a danger other than in the brutal and catastrophic form of a direct seizure of power by communists. On the other hand Americanization gains ground by a process of gradual infiltration, effecting modifications of mentalities and customs which seem inoffensive in themselves but which end in a fundamental perversion and degradation against which it is impossible to fight other than within oneself.

>It is precisely with respect to such internal opposition that most Italians seem weak. Forgetting their own cultural inheritance they readily turn to the United States as something akin to the parent guide of the world.

I remember that bitch, true hero.

>Whoever wants to be modern has to measure himself according to the American standard. It is pitiable to witness a European country so debase itself. Veneration for America has nothing to do with a cultured interest in the way other people live. On the contrary, servility towards the United States leads one to think that there is no other way of life worth considering on the same level as the American one.
>Our radio service is Americanized. Without any criterion of superior and inferior it just follows the fashionable themes of the moment and markets what is considered «acceptable» — acceptable, that is, to the most Americanized section of the public, which is to say the most degenerate. The rest of us are dragged along in its wake. Even the style of presentation on radio has become Americanized. «Who, after listening to an American radio program, can suppress a shudder when he considers that the only way of escaping communism is by becoming Americanized?»

>Those are not the words of an outsider but of an American sociologist, James Burnham, professor at the University of Princeton. Such a judgment from an American should make Italian radio programmers blush for shame.

>The consequence of the «do your own thing» democracy is the intoxication of the greater part of the population which is not capable of discriminating for itself, which, when not guided by a power and an ideal, all too easily loses sense of its own identity.

>The Industrial Order in America

>In his classic study of capitalism Werner Sombart summarized the late capitalist phase in the adage Fiat producto, pareat homo. In its extreme form capitalism is a system in which a man's value is estimated solely in terms of the production of merchandise and the invention of the means of production. Socialist doctrines grew out of a reaction to the lack of human consideration in this system.
>A new phase has begun in the United States where there has been an upsurge of interest in so-called labor relations. In appearance it would seem to signify an improvement: in reality this is a deleterious phenomenon.

Is on Sup Forums

>sprouts a nazi flag

>doesnt now who evola is

>The entrepreneurs and employers have come to realize the importance of the «human factor» in a productive economy, and that it is a mistake to ignore the individual involved in industry: his motives, his feelings, his working day life. Thus, a whole school of study of human relations in industry has grown up, based on behaviorism.
>Studies like Human Relations in Industry by B. Gardner and G. Moore have supplied a minute analysis of the behavior of employees and their motivations with the precise aim of defining the best means to obviate all factors that can hinder the maximization of production. Some studies certainly don't come from the shop floor but from the management, abetted by specialists from various colleges. The sociological investigations go as far as analyzing the employee's social ambience. This kind of study has a practical purpose: the maintenance of the psychological contentment of the employee is as important as the physical. In cases in which a worker is tied to a monotonous job which doesn't demand a great deal of concentration, the studies will draw attention to the «danger» that his mind may tend to wander in a way that may eventually reflect badly on his attitude towards the job. The private lives of employees are not forgotten — hence the increase in so-called personnel counseling.
>Specialists are called in to dispel anxiety, psychological disturbances and non-adaptation «complexes», even to the point of giving advice in relation to the most personal matters. A frankly psycho-analytic technique and one much used is to make the subject «talk freely» and put the results obtainable by this «catharsis» into relief.

That's capitalism at fault, of which America is the biggest exponent. The state simply exists to benefit the capitalist elite.

>None of this is concerned with the spiritual betterment of human beings or any real human problems, such as a European would understand them in this «age of economics». On the other side of the Iron Curtain man is treated as a beast of burden and his obedience is maintained by terror and famine. In the United States man is also seen as just a factor of labor and consumption, and no aspect of his interior life is neglected and every factor of his existence is drawn to the same end. In the «Land of the Free», through every medium, man is told he has reached a degree of happiness hitherto undreamed of. He forgets who he is, where he came from, and basks in the present.

who was today?
did i miss out?

>American «Democracy» in Industry

>There is a significant and growing discrepancy in the United States between the shibboleths of the prevailing political ideology and the effective economic structures of the nation. A large part of studies of the subject is played by the 'morphology of business». Studies corroborate the impression that American business is a long way from the type of organization which corresponds to the democratic ideal of U.S. propaganda. American businesses have a «pyramid» structure. They constitute at the top an articulate hierarchy. The big businesses are run in the same way as government ministries and are organized along similar lines. They have coordinating and controlling bodies which separate the business leaders from the mass of employees. Rather than becoming more flexible in a social sense the «managerial elite» (Burnham) is becoming more autocratic than ever — something not unrelated to American foreign policy.

>This is the end of yet another American illusion. America: the «land of opportunity», where every possibility is there for the person who can grasp it, a land where anyone can rise from rags to riches. At first there was the «open frontier» for all to ride out across. That closed and the new «open frontier» was the sky, the limitless potential of industry and commerce. As Gardner, Moore and many others have shown, this too is no longer limitless, and the opportunities are thinning out. Given the ever increasing specialization of labor in the productive process and the increasing emphasis on «qualifications», what used to seem obvious to Americans — that their children would «go further» than they would — is for many people no longer obvious at all. Thus it is that in the so-called political democracy of the United States, the force and the power in the land, that is to say the industry and the economy, are becoming ever more self-evidently undemocratic. The problem then is: should reality be made to fit ideology or vice-versa? Until recently the overwhelming demand has been for the former course of action; the cry goes out for a return to the «real America» of unfettered enterprise and the individual free of central government control. Nevertheless, there are also those who would prefer to limit democracy in order to adapt political theory to commercial reality. If the mask of American «democracy» were thereby removed, it would become clear to what extent «democracy» in America (and elsewhere) is only the instrument of an oligarchy which pursues a method of «indirect action», assuring the possibility of abuse and deception on a large scale of those many who accept a hierarchical system because they think it is justly such. This dilemma of «democracy» in the United States may one day give place to some interesting developments.

>(from Il Conciliatore, no.10, 1971; translated from the German edition in Deutsche Stimme, no.8, 1998)

"God Emperor" Trump sucking millions of mexicocks.
War is the ONLY Way to Save America now. Civil or Intervention.

fuck you nigger i dont care, did u even see his golden airplane??? huh?
what golden do you have exept your piss?

>because Jews played no part in our values

I'm sure Rabbi Yeheshua would totally concur.

Pol already ruined me and sucked my naive "why can't we be friends" outlook on the world (thank you) but I need to know few things...please user...answer me...

a) are people like Evola just doomsday doomers gloomers like we always had in society, and occasionally hindsight 2020 some of them are RIGHT in their predictions?

b) why do always these critiques (that turn out to be true 50 years later) come from vilified extremists CRAZY KOOKY people like this guy, or Kaczynski ...

t. once a happy careless man

"He's got more money so he's good!"
You are exactly what Evola warned us about, Sven.

on a second look, that is not the flag of mexico

sorry my bad
faggot

Some Men are just naturally gifted with being able to perr behind the veil.
In doing so they can accurately predict what's coming next, as the same pattern has happened before countless times.
Time is a flat circle. It hurts but it's the Truth.
Would you rather know what's going on or live in ignorance?

Nice posts user. Pretty much everything he could have written today. I think I have underestimated Evovla, because he is so hyped so much here.

>Thus the American presents a strange picture: a European with Negro behaviour and an Indian soul.

Jung as always is so good.

It's okay.
Cuck.

its k
love from cuckland

I'm so tired of it all man

>Christianity dominating over Europe for like 1500 years
>literaly a jewish sect
>no part in our values

Ok.

>Would you rather know what's going on or live in ignorance?

That's an impossible question...I don't know.

Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is curse, or so it seems...

Some of us aren't satisfied with the answers we are given. Plus, if you have a decent IQ and apply it to studying history and esoteric material its not hard to semi predict the future.

He was on the edge. Ride the Tiger.
The only way for any change to happen is for society to completely collapse, but if society collapse at this point we'll never have enough resources to get into space.

I look at it this way..
if someone revealed to you that the life you lived was a lie... would you truly look back on it with happiness?

>if someone revealed to you that the life you lived was a lie... would you truly look back on it with happiness?

Hell no!

There is your answer then, my friend.

Link to the full essay?

Any good reading material on this stuff about cultures and their patterns?

Revolt Against The Modern World (if you haven't read Evola)

Bump, best thread on here atm

scribd.com/document/24545690/American-Civilisation-Julius-Evola

Checking those thankful digits, friendo.

Didn't he wrote that in the 50s too? The time that most burgers look back with nostalgia as a heaven in earth, Ebola saw as nigger hell. Seeing America today would give him an aneurysm.

I'd say He just avoids looking at America at all in Heaven these days.

Books:
archive.org/details/JuliusEvola

Essays:
counter-currents.com/author/jevola/

Imagine him seeing "muh fella mericans".

It hurts

nice read

This, he was a tard. Read Burke or Johnson my dudes

>It is no exaggeration to assert that the foolish pride of Americans in spectacular “bigness,” in the “achievements” of their civilization, reek of the Negro psyche.
Imagine being someone who find this sort of stuff profound. Lol

The Truth Hurts.
Don't disregard his philosophy just because "he said mean things about here!"

Is it too complex for you?

>The Truth Hurts.
>Don't disregard his philosophy just because "he said mean things about here!"
I disregard because only a moron could believe it. He literally thought that the land of American was imbued with a sort of "spirit" transforming people into natives.

Mussolini was great until WW2 and Hitlerian influence.

>Is it too complex for you?
No, I'm not an Irishman, so "both like same are same" doesn't particularly impress me.

He wasn't on about the Land.
He was on about how the jews having a atranglehold of Americans minds for so long made them more stupid than European Peoples, equating it to nigger thought.
It's not that hard to understand if you actually put some thought into it instead of getting offended.

>He was on about how the jews having a atranglehold of Americans minds for so long made them more stupid than European Peoples, equating it to nigger thought.
And the stereotypes go back to long before there was any considerable number of Jews here.
I'm more offended that people like you find such awful prose writers "profound" than anything else.

No. The problem is not that we are rich or poor.

The problem is we can't even breed. Do you get it. On a biological level, we have exhausted our spiritual strengths. We represent old, wise, yet sterile races... And what happened to them whenever they encountered young and virile ones?

Exactly. They got racemixed or destroyed into oblivion. The only reason we are still what we were is because the communists brutalized us, unintenionally making us stronger.

youtube.com/watch?v=IJQnf12UQkE

Oh i have read him, and Spengler. Jung's essay on Wotan is great as well. What i want to know is, has there been ANY at all that has found a way out of the cycle? Because we ARE the decadent wealthy race, at this point it is evident.

You know, i think in the end the only way forward is the destruction of large cities and dispersion of peoples to villages.

The only reason we are still what we were is because the communists brutalized us, unintenionally making us stronger.
That's what I admire most about Eastern Europeans.
Maybe just maybe Americans began to develop differrnt, more grandiose ways of thinking than their European Ancestors?

>Maybe just maybe Americans began to develop differrnt, more grandiose ways of thinking than their European Ancestors?
Whatever, he's still a faggot. Can you point to one impressive thing he's said? Why should I subscribe to mystical nonsense when I can read Johnson or Burke?

>>The much-vaunted sex appeal of American women is drawn from films, reviews and pin-ups
Not for me, for me it was informed by sex with them not pictures of them, even if they were of the moving type.

This is the truth. The JewSA must fall

Europe is no different. I can't speak for every country, but France matches or exceeds the ugliness of America in just about every aspect.

Horry shit thank you

Surely you Irish should be pretty tough then, considering the "we're not gonna let you eat this decade" thing.

For anyone who needs a quick rundown on Evola:

youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs

But white Americans far outscore the international PISA test scores of nearly every european country, and its unmatched in uninveesiry rankings and modern technological achievements (we're communicating on the internet, for example). "Stupid" isn't the right word.

Namate Chief running horse.
May the buffalo run free within the stream of your heart.

Kaczynski himself took a harsher prison sentence over being put in a mental institution because he insisted he wasn't crazy.

And Kaczynski wasn't crazy, he was a shy mathematics major who was very smart and forward thinking. His critique on society was totally valid too. He only wanted to pursue his research, but the world around him wouldn't let him have that. The government experimented on him and pushed the transgender shit on him, even got his friends and professors to betray and humiliate him for their "research". This isn't even a conspiracy theory, this is really what happened.

Kaczynski was poked by and abused by the people around him until he was driven out into the outskirts of America, and he said he was happy there. If he had been allowed to live out the rest of his life there in peace he likely would have, but then his little place out in the woods started getting "industrialized" and that was the last straw.

Obviously what Ted did was terrible, but Ted's rampage was more the result of years of abuse by sadistic government research than it was insanity. He probably wouldn't have done it if he had just been allowed to be the shy professor he had intended to be.

University ratings are mostly manipulated though.

t. couldn't make the top 20