Majority of Americans Support Making Bigots Bake Cakes

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A majority (53%) of Americans oppose allowing businesses that provide wedding services, such as catering, flowers, and wedding cakes, to refuse services to same-sex couples, compared to about four in ten (41%) who say they would support allowing these wedding-based businesses to refuse services to same-sex couples for religious reasons.

Opinion is fractured along racial and ethnic lines. More than six in ten black (61%) and Hispanic Americans (68%) say wedding-based businesses should be required to provide services to same-sex couples. White Americans are divided: 48% agree that businesses ought to be required to serve same-sex couples, while 47% say they should not. Notably, there are no major differences among white Americans by education.

Two-thirds (67%) of Republicans believe wedding-based businesses, like those making wedding cakes, should be able to refuse serving same-sex couples if doing so would violate the owner’s religious beliefs. By contrast, only 40% of independents and about one in four (24%) Democrats hold this view. More than seven in ten (72%) Democrats and a majority (55%) of independents say wedding-based businesses should be required to provide the same services to same-sex couples as they would to all other customers.

White Protestants are unique to the extent they believe wedding-based businesses should be allowed to refuse serving same-sex couples. Nearly two-thirds (65%) of white evangelical Protestants and nearly half (49%) of white mainline Protestants believe businesses that provide wedding services should be allowed to refuse services to same-sex couples. A majority of white Catholics (55%), black Protestants (56%), members of non-Christian religious groups (64%), unaffiliated Americans (65%), and Hispanic Catholics (73%) believe that such businesses should have to serve same-sex couples.

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On this issue, young people are solidly opposed while older Americans are divided. Nearly two-thirds (64%) of young people (age 18-29) say wedding-based businesses should not be allowed to refuse services to same-sex couples on religious grounds. Americans age 65 and older are divided: Roughly as many support (45%) as oppose (50%) allowing wedding-based businesses to refuse services to same-sex couples.

There is a sizable gender gap. Six in ten (60%) women believe they should not be permitted to refuse services, while men are divided: 48% support, 47% oppose.

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When asked about the issue of religiously based service refusals more generally outside of the wedding context, attitudes are similar. A majority (56%) of Americans oppose allowing small business owners in their state to refuse services or goods to gay and lesbian people if doing so violates their religious beliefs, while nearly four in ten (39%) favor religiously based service refusals to gay and lesbian people. Support for such service refusals has increased since earlier this year. In February 2017, two-thirds (64%) opposed allowing small businesses to refuse goods or services to gay and lesbian people, compared to fewer than one-third (32%) who supported such actions.1

Notably, more than six in ten of black (63%) and Hispanic (63%) Americans are opposed to allowing small business owners in their state to refuse goods and services to gay and lesbian people on religious grounds. More than half (52%) of white Americans are also opposed to allowing small businesses the right to refuse serving gay and lesbian people. There are no major differences in the views of white Americans by educational background.

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Nearly three-quarters (73%) of Democrats and a majority (54%) of independents oppose allowing small business owners to refuse services to gay and lesbian people. Among Republicans, however, fewer than four in ten (38%) oppose this policy, compared to a majority (57%) who favor it.

White evangelical Protestants are the only major religious group in which a majority supports religiously based service refusals to gay and lesbian people. Six in ten (60%) white evangelical Protestants believe small businesses should be permitted to refuse products or services to gay and lesbian people if doing so would be a violation of their religious beliefs. Fewer than half of white mainline Protestants (44%), black Protestants (41%), white Catholics (36%), religiously unaffiliated Americans (31%), and members of non-Christian religions (30%) agree.

There is continued strong support gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people non-discrimination laws. More than seven in ten (72%) Americans favor laws that would protect lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people from discrimination in jobs, public accommodation, and housing. Roughly one-quarter (24%) of the public oppose such laws. Views have been relatively stable over the past year. In August 2016, an identical number (72%) of Americans expressed support non-discrimination laws to protect LGBT people.2

There is robust support for nondiscrimination protections across the political spectrum. Six in ten (60%) Republicans, about seven in ten (72%) independents, and approximately eight in ten (81%) Democrats favor laws to protect LGBT people from discrimination in employment, public accommodations, and housing.

Support for same-sex marriage continues to rise among the general public. Nearly two-thirds (66%) of Americans favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally, while fewer than one-third (28%) oppose.

Despite increasing support for same-sex marriage, partisan divisions remain. More than seven in ten Democrats (76%) and independents (71%) favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. Republicans are nearly evenly divided on this issue (47% favor, 48% oppose). Notably, 29% of Republicans strongly oppose same-sex marriage, compared to 21% who strongly support it.

No group has remained more steadfast in their opposition to same-sex marriage than white evangelical Protestants. A majority (54%) of white evangelical Protestants oppose same-sex marriage, although a significant minority (43%) now expresses support for the policy. Black Protestants are divided over whether gay and lesbian couple should be allowed to marry: 45% favor while 48% oppose it. Majorities of other major religious groups support same-sex marriage including Catholics (65%), white mainline Protestants (76%), members of non-Christian religious groups (79%), and the religiously unaffiliated (81%).

Among adults age 18 to 29, support for same-sex marriage has reached near consensus. More than eight in ten (81%) young adults express support for same-sex marriage, including a majority (56%) who support it strongly. A majority (55%) of seniors also support same-sex marriage, although they are more tepid in their support—fewer than one-quarter (24%) back the policy strongly.

Few Americans say religiously affiliated adoption agencies that receive federal funding should be allowed to refuse placing children with qualified gay and lesbian couples. More than two-thirds (68%) of the public oppose allowing agencies that receive federal funding to refuse placing children with gay or lesbian people, compared to 28% of Americans who favor such a policy.

There is agreement across the political spectrum, although the extent of the agreement varies considerably. A majority (53%) of Republicans, two-thirds (67%) of independents, and more than eight in ten (81%) Democrats oppose allowing religiously affiliated adoption agencies that receive federal funding to refuse to place children with gay and lesbian couples. More than four in ten (43%) Republicans believe agencies that receive federal funds should be allowed to refuse to place children with gay and lesbian couples.

Majorities of all major religious groups oppose allowing agencies that receive federal support from excluding gay and lesbian couples from being considered as parents. Eight in ten (80%) religiously unaffiliated Americans, at least two-thirds of those affiliated with non-Christian religious traditions (73%), Catholics (69%), white mainline Protestants (68%), and black Protestants (67%) oppose allowing federally funded agencies to exclude qualified gay and lesbian couples from consideration. White evangelical Protestants are more divided, but a slim majority (51%) also say religiously affiliated agencies that receive federal funding should not be allowed to refuse to place children with gay and lesbian couples, compared to 45% who say that these agencies should be able to exclude gay and lesbian couples from consideration.

Religiously Affiliated Adoption Agencies that Receive No Federal Funding

The public is more divided over the discretion that should be granted to religiously affiliated agencies that do not receive federal funding. More than four in ten (44%) Americans say such agencies should be permitted to exclude gay and lesbian couples, while more than half (51%) say they should not. Views vary significantly by political and religious affiliation.

Republicans (61%) are more than twice as likely as Democrats (30%) to say it should be permissible for religiously affiliated agencies that do not receive federal funds to refuse placing children with gay and lesbian couples. Independents are divided: 47% say agencies should be allowed to do this while 48% say they should not.

White Christian groups express the most comfort with allowing religiously affiliated adoption agencies that do not receive federal support to refuse placing children with gay and lesbian couples. More than six in ten (63%) white evangelical Protestants and about half of white Catholics (50%) and white mainline Protestants (47%) say agencies that are not federally funded should be able to exclude gay and lesbian couples from placements. A majority of non-Christian adherents (54%), black Protestants (57%), unaffiliated Americans (60%), and Hispanic Catholics (65%) say agencies should not be able to refuse placing children with qualified gay and lesbian couples.

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Will you "muh conservative minorities" people now use this to realize that they don't have steadfast beliefs in any of that most of the time because they don't have the cultural point of view to oppose the system in that way, ever? That they will groupthink more often than not, on guns, on free speech, on freedom not to be forced to put two male figurines on a wedding cake

You are confusing me for Ben Shapiro.

Oh and furthermore, the signs of gen Z being more conservative (real gen z, under 15 even now, not these late stage millenials) can't be explained away as "well its cause they arent white" because the nonwhites are not as true to their cultural conservatism as they've been painted

No no lad, I'm talking to all those other ones, I know you're here to gloat about how people have finally accepted you, oddly at the same time in history that we face record problems, its almost like it happened before, how coincidental

Do you have any data to support this assertion? My understanding is they did ONE study showing gay teens are somehow more conservative that contradicts other evidence.

>majority of Americans are statists
Yeah

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Studies are still not being done much on the youngest ones which is really what I'm talking about. Even the ones 16-18 now, werent getting the PC shit full bore since kindergarten

The ones coming through now will be the most polarized group ever, they will have some of the most leftist and right wing kids the world will ever see and when the boomers arent there to play centrist yard duty anymore, accelerationism is gonna explode

So your hope is those under 18 will magically be against gay rights. Maybe those agains gays will have even more reactionary views like wanting sodomy laws reinstated or such but every quality poll I have seen indicates the younger people are the more they support gays and you have nothing yet against this assertion.

Again, my assertion is based on the outcome of how this will be viewed in the future, I actually readily admit that the group I'm referring to at best will be 15ish percent but what they do and how the kids of the even further future react is going to be what defines the entire path

A bakery is not a church. People have religious beliefs, not businesses.

Start a church if you want to make money off "God".

this poll is bullshit because most niggers don't want queers existing at all

Personal beliefs don't matter all must bow to the will of the state! Where have i heard that before.... Oh look there's a handy flag for that

this. black and Hispanics polled like that? what in the gay section of town?

What about Hispanic protestants?

>Personal beliefs don't matter all must bow to the will of the state!

No, the will of the individual you commie shit.

They are not restricting his personal beliefs though, they are restricting his commerce, which is a state interest to have all customers served in publicly open businesses in the state of Colorado.

prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

Millennials draw no distinctions between discrimination protections that should be afforded gay and lesbian people, on the one hand, and transgender people on the other. More than seven in ten (73%) millennials support legal protections against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing for gay and lesbian people. A nearly identical number (72%) of millennials say they favor these same protections for transgender people.

While no significant racial or gender differences exist on either question, there are large religious divides in support for expanding nondiscrimination legislation. Roughly eight in ten black Protestant (80%), white Catholic (82%), Hispanic Catholic (81%), religiously unaffiliated (83%), and white mainline Protestant millennials (78%) favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing. About two-thirds (66%) of Hispanic Protestant millennials also favor such laws. White evangelical Protestants are closely divided on this issue, with a slim majority (51%) favoring laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination, and 47% opposing them. Among religious groups, the pattern of opinion about non-discrimination legislation protecting transgender individuals is nearly identical.

I agree with you faggo.

Only people can be individuals. Businesses, churches, governments and any groups have no say on the freedom of an individual.

That isn't even at issue. The issue is can businesses preferentially refuse to serve gays if they are open to the public in a state with sexual orientation included as a protected class in their public accommodation laws. Nobody is seriously disputing whether it is legal to refuse interracial marriages wedding cakes. The question is whether homosexuals are a valid, natural group, or just a behavior that can be prejudiced against. Given Kennedy, Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, and Breyer's arguments in 2015's gay marriage case, I don't think this will be a different outcome.

Corporations are people nigger.

That would be amazing if they applied Citizens United to this ruling. I'm not sure if that's legit but it would be inventive to say businesses are people and we can restrict behavior of a business.

>The issue is can businesses preferentially refuse to serve gays if they are open to the public in a state with sexual orientation included as a protected class in their public accommodation laws
You need to think big picture. This is a mistake:
>The question is whether homosexuals are a valid, natural group, or just a behavior that can be prejudiced against.
You don't want to make or have this argument because if you win you get a cake, if you lose, you lose fucking EVERYTHING. Keep it simple. "Don't refuse business to individuals based on personal beliefs." That's it. Anything else, needlessly complicates the issue and puts too much at risk.
Corporations are paperwork. When a corporation can bleed, grow old and die then I'll consider it "people".

>Majority of Americans IN LIBERAL SHITHOLES Support Making Bigots Bake Cakes
FTFY

What about Hobby Lobby then?

>They are not restricting his personal beliefs though, they are restricting his commerce
When the founders wrote in the interstate commerce clause, I wonder if they expected it to be used justify this.

This is a state law. Interstate commerce clause is not relevant here. This is not about federal civil rights laws.

I would simply bake the cake, but spit/piss/shit in the batter and have lovely guffaws about what I'd done.

stop being dick fucking assholes and leave those who don't agree with your degeneracy alone. LEAVE THEM ALONE