Any lawfags here? Long story short: > I leave for uni a short distance away > gf is still a senior in high school > everything was going fine, she cried and hugged and kissed me goodbye > a few days into school I get word that she's thinking of getting back with her ex that still goes to school with her > clearly pissed, I text her demanding an explanation and confront her outside her car at a football game she cheered at (I was planning to go to support her anyway) > I try to keep my voice low, but she starts screaming and people start looking > next thing I know, police are at my door and she's gone to get a temporary PFA order > read her sworn testimony > the bitch claims I stalk her, forced her to have sex with me, and choked her > this is a girl who claimed to "love me" just two days before and kept saying how much she missed me > I have these in text screenshots > she has no evidence of any of her claims besides angry texts I sent her > none of the texts were physically threatening
Final hearing is on Monday. So, do I have any chance of beating this? How are PFA hearings structured? Will the judge even bother listening to my side?
Enjoy prison and life on the sexual predator list.
Colton Fisher
no criminal charges have been brought against me as of yet. Just the temporary PFA order until the final hearing
Adam Sanders
women own the courts mate, its guilty before proven innocent. have fun in prison, welcome to the nightmare dystopia that our grandfathers told their children wouldnt happen
Brayden Ross
bump
if there's no evidence against you you'll be fine user
Matthew Brooks
Bummer dude. Get a good lawyer ASAP.
Hunter Wilson
sorry user you are fucked, remember never stick your dick in crazy
Mason Walker
>> clearly pissed, I text her demanding an explanation and confront her outside her car at a football game she cheered at (I was planning to go to support her anyway)
baby you gonna done learn
Cooper James
Post screencaps of texts. Nothing I say here constitutes legal advice blah blah blah t. lawfaggot
Ryder Phillips
from what research I've done, civil hearings are conducted on "preponderance of the evidence" unlike in criminal trials in which one must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm scared the bitch is just going to go in, cry a little, and then the judge isn't gonna give a shit what I have to say
Gabriel Phillips
Why the fuck are people still hooking up with sloots in post modernist west.
If you can't find a conservative chick then find an Asian. Or get cucked like op.
Ryan Evans
Oh, you have written evidence? Doesn't matter, a weoman cried that means you did a crime. I'd suggest leaving the state.
Elijah Thompson
Dude, she's claiming you forced her to have sex. That's a rape charge. You are totally fucked, pal. You'd better try your fucking hardest to get a recording of her saying she's making it up. Never speak to her without recording in the future, either over the phone or with a device in your pocket
Hunter Rogers
>your tears say more than real evidence ever could
Evan Gray
you're gonna face a 'my ancestors are smiling on me imperial, can you say the same!?' moment before being thrown into jail cause some mad cunt wanted to ruin another mans life as usual
William Evans
>pretty much get ready to be known as that kid with a restraining order it's no biggie you just have one foot in the underworld
Benjamin Thompson
Enjoy the electric chair cuck
Tyler Price
literally two days before any of this happened. By the way, account is deleted
Eli Flores
Get a lawyer you fuck.
Samuel Mitchell
That would get thrown out of court unless he somehow managed to get it in a public place.
Gabriel Allen
just more shit I'm hoping will show we were in good standing
Aaron Price
Get an actual lawyer you fucking nigger. Also why the fuck do you call it uni if you're american. Fuck off with that, it's called college.
Aiden Ross
It fucking blows if it goes through too. I graduated in the top 5 of my class and got into college for free on scholarships. I have a decently good reputation besides being known as "muh evil Nazi"
Blake Collins
>I will destroy your soul
Joshua Kelly
she was a conservative chick. Even browsed Sup Forums with me a few times. She can just be a psycho fuck
Isaiah Rogers
Wow she's quite fat, her arm is bigger than mine
Michael Powell
Keep us posted faggot. Although you should request (or have your lawyer do it) that the judge subpoena your phone records so he can see that you maintained a relatively normal relationship until she made the accusations.
McCain and Comey paid 100k for fake pee pee dossier!
Brandon Flores
>false charges >jackshit when it comes to palpable evidence >just another psycho bitch You'll be fine user
Hunter Nelson
That's not true, a lot of times exculpatory evidence is admissible even where it shouldn't be technically speaking. It's up to the judge.
Liam Cooper
Lawfag here, seconding the whole not legal device thing
Dont talk to her ever again, especially directly. In court expect her to act emotional, dont take any bait
Basically dont be fucking retarded, and if what youre saying is the whole story you shouldnt have much of a problem if you dont get some cunt judge
Thats all ive got, not my field
Oliver Ross
1. Delete this picture before some dedicated autist finds you 2. This is good, any more lovey dicey shit provin how full of shit she is? Print this crap and take it with you 3. Temporary orders are 100% granted, permanent not so much 4. If you have any friends/associates who can testify to your version of the relationship bring them 5. You won't see a judge, you'll see a pleb bitch doing bitch work 6. You were only dating, whoever sees your case already views this as a joke because you weren't married 7. Blah blah not legal consul
Ryan Rogers
>screenshotting on snapchat figured out why she wants to false accusation you into oblivion, this is a basic bitches kryptonite
Colton Miller
Yes. Lawfag here. You will be fine. Get a lawyer. They will be able to handle this to save your ass
Easton Hughes
Also document everything
Thomas Wood
she's about 5'2 and a 110 pounds. I don't know if she's fat, but she ate like shit and most definitely was never in shape. I'd post pics but I realize the danger of doing that here
Benjamin Reed
she did you a favor the human body cannot maintain eating like shit american style much past puberty
Daniel Nelson
childrapists like you always end in to jail
Lincoln Rivera
I have some more lovey dovey shit, and I have some texts (not snapchats) that explicitly have her admitting to being "mentally unstable"
Thomas Ward
>leaves snapchat username in photo
Mason Gonzalez
Rape her to re-establish dominance. She just wants the thrill of her ex, show her that she doesn't need or deserve it.
Elijah Parker
My family was able to hook me up with a local one around here that specializes in defense. I hear he may want to try to work out a deal with the cunt's parents to possibly drop the hearing before it actually goes to court. But if not, I'm still wondering what to expect in there. I fear getting an asshole of a judge that doesn't even want to hear my shit.
Kevin Mitchell
>show her that she doesn't want it OP that's what women really want
Michael Watson
the account is already deleted
Brody Butler
I have phone records that show that we spoke for a decent amount of time on the phone two days before this occurred
Xavier Bailey
I went through this with my live-in gf who was cheating on me with a guy she worked with, got accused of abuse and threatening to kill her so she could skip on out and go live with her new BF. I was summoned for a voluntary statement, and was asked questions about the whole deal. Told the truth, that there was no abuse in our relationship, and they went on to interview my friends (and our mutual friends) and since they never saw or heard of any abuse, there was nothing to corroborate her story. It didnt even make it to court, and the cops told her to never bother calling them again for anything because she wasted their time. Burden of proof is on your ex for these accusations, and since there isnt any proof of your alleged abuse it wont go anywhere. The truth will literally set you free, my man.
Justin Garcia
Get a lawyer tomorrow. Do not talk to anyone else especially the popo.
Ryder Rogers
>admitting to being mentally unstable Welp ok you won. Also strongly look into getting a lawyer to represent you because the $200 you're gonna spend for some jew to represent you for maybe 15 minutes will save a lot of pain just in case all hell breaks loose
Nathaniel Clark
Isn't it so ass not to be confused with community college ? Never knew you americans did this , when I went to School there I just called it "Uni". You are kill m80. The system is fucked. My advice is MGTOW for anyone reading this. Atleast if the world dies we can have some solace.
Cameron Adams
She already went before a judge because here in the US, for a temporary PFA to be put in place you don't have a right to be there to defend yourself. She's already told her story. She has no proof of anything, again, except besides the texts I sent being pissed the fuck off. But there was nothing threatening within them. I do have a friend who I talked about my relationship with a lot. I suggested to my lawyer to have him testify about my character, how the relationship was since he heard about it often and hung out with us a lot, and how mentally unhinged the bitch could be. But my lawyer says he doesn't know if that's useful or if he'd get a chance to testify.
Isaiah Ward
...
Adrian Sanders
send me your outlines
t. 1Lfag
Josiah Bailey
Already questioned by police the very same night. I didn't want to go full sperg out libertarian AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED IM NOT SPEAKING TO YOU. I voluntarily gave a statement where I told them the honest truth of the situation
Jacob Wright
do your own, it'll be better for you
Oliver Watson
Blow goat Yeah you win, make up some shit about her being abusive for the haymaker
Jacob Evans
After you hire a lawyer show him that.
Jose Hernandez
by the way, the dude it looks like will be representing me is a Pajeet and is charging $750 to show up at this thing. Worse than a Jew.
Adrian Young
Fine. You're right.
OP is faget though.
Connor James
Blow op. Then get restraining order.
Chase Powell
>$750 >pajeet >less than 20 minutes of work Checks out
Gavin Gray
She did bite me once, and I have a photo of the mark and a witness who could testify to having asked me about it. Also have text message where she admits to it. But I feel they'll just ask "why didn't you report this then?"
Sebastian Ward
>But I feel they'll just ask "why didn't you report this then?"
That's victim blaming and total horseshit. Show that shit to your lawyer and flip the script on her.
GG. This is your trump card. Save it. Don't show your hand. Don't offer a second chance until after the hearings. Get a lawyer and present them with this evidence among others.
Parker Cox
>Show that shit to your lawyer and flip the script on her.
How are you just now telling us the puta bit you
Kevin Sanchez
An Hero before it gets any worse.
Angel Parker
here's her admitting to biting me. Although she tries to claim she "didn't take a chunk out"
Carter James
>she bit me >i have evidence >I have witnesses >I have a lawyer Congrats at this point you could choose to be a turbo kike and threaten you'll sue her for defamation. Any other ridiculous shit that you left out that's just making this ez mode for you?
Ryan Evans
would that stand in court? Could they possibly argue that that's not a psychiatric diagnosis of any kind and doesn't hold weight?
Jace Clark
I've had my ex get an injunction and get try to get me charged with assault, I'd slapped her face and beat her brother up with a bat and had a fight with four guys including one she was supposed to go on a date with. But she deserved a slap. It wasn't a punch or meant to hurt, just to show displeasure as she and many other girls have done to me many times. She was newly tubbed you see, and in rage at me for doing this to her and also my staying out all night quite often and doing other naughty stuff she decided she'd go out with a guy who was her brothers friend. Her brother was a big ginger navy guy who was jealous of me, he'd been trying to get her away from me and was trying to set her up with a date with some guy he knew. I found out where she was, and man she is one hot girl but a total nymph with it so I knew by the end of the night she'd be ruined, and she had my baby in her. Soooo... it was about 8:00 pm and they were all at a house prior to going out, a big group of people. As I arrived her brother was getting something out of his car and I layed him out with a rounders bat (like a baseball bat but smaller) and walked in, all these guys were trying to come out to see what all the screams were about and we ended up clashing in a really small hallway. Anyway I'd made a bit of a mess, and I didn't know who was who which was lucky for Casanova because I'd have literally killed him. She got out the back door, and went to her mums. The next day I slapped her face, once. The police didn't charge me straight away, they knew what would happen and gave me bail to return to the station. A few days later she was back to being loved up with me and dropped the injunction and charges. Do that. Once she's dropped the charges drop her if you want, user.
Anthony Powell
Sue her for everything. Women deserve to be punished for their sins.
Brayden Hernandez
Yes I always side with YHVH, chaosfags are the worst
Anthony Scott
I mean drop her like as a GF, not punch her out or anything
Nathan Lee
Look for a local attorney who will help structure a good way to bring your evidence into court. I am not an attorney but I would write a statement that clearly explains what happened with the argument, shows the argument in context to your ongoing relationship and explains that you would prefer not to see this particular individual again but you also don't want to be put in a situation where you inadvertently break a restraining order and face severe and long term consequences for an unstable individual. Write the statement out and have an attorney go over it and help you with it.
Thomas Powell
You should be fine desu, you may even be able to press charges for perjury and/or libel
Gavin Gutierrez
yeah one other thing. In her sworn testimony she claims that I "insist on having a child with her." Well, the truth is that I accidentally knocked her up once but she miscarried the fucking thing. She was so fucked up from this that she wanted to try it again. She even had the fucking thing named "Josh." Here's a text where she talks about "Josh" as in the dead kid, and how her family doesn't know about it. Bonus: she talks about being possibly schizo. Other bonus: her father will be in the court room to hear this.
Cameron White
You need a lawyer, user. You need an actual lawyer who will show up to the hearing. The court absolutely will listen to you but the procedural and evidentiary aspects of it will definitely trip you up.
Lucas Watson
Theres so many retarded things about this story. The people who owned the house you broke into and assaulted people in had no say in you being charged? where the fuck do you live?
Blake Robinson
And I know I'm a fucking degenerate for teen pregnancy but at least she was white
Adam Hill
She just admitted to assaulting you. I don't know how valuable that is, but your lawyer will.
Benjamin Bailey
>fallinng for the vaginal jew kek enjoy pound me in the ass prison, child-molesting faggot OP
Caleb Russell
Of course they might argue that sort of thing, but their opinion is as worthless as yours: They'd need to hire an expert, get her a psych analysis... etc. It drives up the cost of litigation. It's entirely possible your ex doesn't even have a lawyer. You need to get one so you can defeat her roundly.
Fuck, sometimes complainants don't even show up to these hearings. If you show and she doesn't, it's possible you can turn around and sue her for your attorney's fees.
Matthew Flores
From the looks of it, this shit-show will be worth $750 and having to smell a pajeet for an hour.
Caleb Hernandez
fuck off cuckistani faggot. the age difference was 9 months
Gabriel Powell
>going full autist over a barren roastie who can't even pop out white children kek >based gen z
Gabriel Scott
Vet your fuckbuddies a little better. Good luck in court, you've got a snowflake's chance in hell of losing this case. Remember to shit on her car afterwards.
Mason Ortiz
I have a lawyer now. Like I said, the Pajeet. He keeps talking about working deals out with them so it doesn't have to go to hearing. But what i don't like is that he's being a submissive little fuck and says that he doesn't want to grill her in the courtroom because if she cries on the stand, especially after telling her lie riddled story, it could piss the judge off.
Joseph Cox
still underage, still without parents consent, still you're in college while she's in high school = statutory rape
also adultery and fornication
you deserve everything bad that happens to you for not living in accordance with christ's rules
Evan Thomas
If she's a bitch and it's just a PFA, why do you care? Just stay away from her.
Cameron Nguyen
statutory rape in my state is anything that is an age difference greater than 4 years. Any sexual activity we had was consensual as well. 18 having sex with 17 is not a rape charge.
Dylan Butler
I'm going to give you some protip dating advice, if a girl isn't eagerly texting you back or seems to be scoping the landscape just delete her number. It'll be nothing but a headache if you dont.
Andrew Adams
What's the deal he wants to work? I mean, if it's just a "we leave each other alone from now on" but fairly informally, then it might be worth it. You need to ask your lawyer whether there are any likely collateral consequences to dealing, like whether you'd have a criminal record or fail a background check.
My main worry would be if you had a permanent no-contact order that was based on an allegation of sexual assault that you'd never be able to get a professional license.
Grayson Torres
Get a new lawyer then.
Jeremiah Green
gail????
wtf
Zachary Richardson
you don't know how bad that shit actually is. For one, it's available on the public records docket. Easily findable by future employers with a quick background search. Even after it expires it stays on the records that you're a domestic abuser. Second, any vengeful cunt can call the police if you even happen to be in the same place at the same time as her by accident and have you arrested
Nathaniel Hill
>Temporary Not much you can do bro, there won't even be much of a hearing. You can present your evidence, which can be used later if she wants to try and make it permenant but the level of proof required to get a temp order to stick is extremely low by design. Even the fact there was a confrontation can be enough in most cases.
Friendly reminder: Don't stick your dick in crazy. It's NEVER worth it.
Aaron Lewis
This is what you get for dating asian women
Austin Jackson
That's why this is such bullshit. Our relationship was going fine and she was all over me like nothing was wrong. It's fairly easy to tell if a birch is uninterested in you anymore or looking for a way to duck. I'm assuming she just saw her ex in school, figured I was 45 minutes away at college, and decided to be a slut. I found out, and she needed a way to dispose of me. Fuck you'd think I'd learn about women.
Brayden Morales
Dude you're fucked, Pajeet's are terrible at communication, assertiveness, and making logical sense. I'm worried for you, can you not get a new lawyer?