Not much, reading "White Power" by GLR. I read the Turner Diaries by WLP and that was such a great fucking book.
William Green
卐 - NATSOC ECONOMICS EXPLAINED ------------------------------- >One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism.
>Our Socialism, however, is not in of itself an economic system, it is not the Socialism of Marx and co and stands in direct opposition to both Communism and Capitalism. It would be more accurate to say that to Fascism, Socialism is the definitive social structure which is more comparable to the structures of Individualism and Collectivism, yet it stands in opposition to those two structures as well.
Gabriel Reyes
sieg heil, mein kameraden! my question: will the future american civil war have a National Socialist faction? i would LOVE to join the SS
Nathan Butler
I really liked white power, one of the best books of all time. I liked Turner Diaries too when I first read it, though I re-read it last year and thought some of the scenarios seemed a bit odd. Not sure I believe that revolution would really work that way, but he did predict a lot of things about how fucked and degenerate society would become.
Jonathan Morgan
>will the future american civil war have a National Socialist faction? People are only racially blind when they are in a comfortable situation.
Have a liberal live through a famine and chaos. Suddenly they become REALLY fucking aware of how dangerous niggers can be. That's why rich hollywood chucklefucks are called "limousine liberals" because they don't live anywhere close to a state of chaos that would want them to think in terms of "us" and "them". They think the world is just one big happy party.
But they don't realize that when the chips are down, the only people you can count on is your race. If the chips are REALLY down then you can only count on your family. And if the chips are REALLY REALLY fucking down, then all you can count on is yourself. There is a reason why humans developed as families, then tribes, then nations. This "one race human race" horse shit is only possible as long as there isn't scarcity. Once an economy crash or a civil war breaks out, your damn right white people will know what the fuck they'll need to do
This is the Stalag Version of Mein Kampf, the only ever authorized publishing of Mein Kampf in English by the NSDAP. Many copies were given to British POWs in Stalags during the War to help them understand the meaning of National Socialism (not to mention, it just gave them something to do too!)
Adrian Martinez
>NatSoc >redpilled
Gavin Flores
>Not sure I believe that revolution would really work that way Yeah some of it is fantasy, especially towards the end. But it was a really good narrative and I loved all the technical details he put into it. I like how he pretty much gave an instruction manual for how to make an underground organization.
Aaron Myers
>Socialism
kys faggot
Brayden Sanders
what's wrong with the murphy translation?
Colton Mitchell
i disagree highly with WIlliam L. Pierce's views on christianity though. the reason whites are getting fucked so hard by the jews is because until they got to us, we were a nearly 100% race of christians. there is nothing a kike hates worse than a christian. christians knew this for millennia before it wasnt (((politically correct))). we have been perverted by them. it isnt christianity's fault for being 'cucked', it is actually one of the most powerful antisemitic worldviews on earth.
Easton Sullivan
>he thinks the Socialism in National Socialist means the Boyknee Sanduuuhs kind of "Socialism"
Oh, news flash buddy boy. Liberals aren't really into Liberty either.
Brayden Johnson
That one is good but, I thought I'd post this one because it was the only English version officially released by the NSDAP.
Joshua Sullivan
thanks so much!
Logan Cook
At this point I dont care about the socialism part. ill vote for whoever care about retaining the ethnic composition of the west
Matthew Hill
>THE ONE TRUE ENGLISH VERSION >Stalag Ford is better imo.
>being against nationalism on Sup Forums kys t_d nigger
Jason James
hail brothers!
Tyler Richardson
Ford is the second most accurate translation next to Murphy. You are very welcome, my friend.
Brandon Wright
>i disagree highly with WIlliam L. Pierce's views on christianity though I recently turned the corner on this topic myself to be honest. I finally realized that Christ and Faith was so great to Europe. And something that the Jews who feed off their fellow human hate more than anything.
But I also see where WLP is coming from. Just look at the cuck-pope now. Look at the mega-churches that in the same sermon say "Only way to god is through Christ" and "Jews are god's chosen people". And "Judeau-Christian" values that politicans use all the time.
A lot of good about strong faith and Christianity but also it's universalist nature makes people think way too much in the "one race human race" vein.
I wish there was an easy way to describe to people that yes we are all god's children, but we are all god imprisoned in flesh, and the flesh is bound by genetic mutations, and we get along best in a society with other sparks of god, bound in flesh, that share the same genetic mutations that we do. So it is best to organize nations racially, as they always have been.
But that shit is hard to right on a sign and march with
Gabriel White
Which is why when there is only one race, we'll be cool. :)
Ayden Gonzalez
thats not far off. this country is polarizing between 4th reich and Soviet Russia 2.0 over literally nothing more than a minor difference of opinion. of course, this is entirely the fault of the millennials and the modern left. Either way i hope it happens so I can proudly wear the swastika nnd throw the kikes destroying america into the ovens
Mason James
I thought Murphy was fired and never finished, leaving the work in a mess.
It is very good so far, I'm only up to chapter 1 but I'm hooked. This motherfucker knows what he is talking about and he talks about it in a very objective sociological way.
Kevin Miller
>supporting state control of anything ever No but seriously gas yourself next time around
Julian Gutierrez
Natsoc general should university be free. I'm against the idea of "debt slavery" and college loans are very high. What are your opinions. Thanks:)
Jayden Anderson
I wish we had even a tenth of what the european far right gets
Cameron Sanders
...
Jayden Phillips
>libtards
>"I certainly wouldn't use force to get what I want" >"Therefore, no one else would!" >"Dismantle the government, it isn't needed as the entity with a monopoly on the use of force to settle disputes" >"What's a blood feud?"
Aaron Harris
Confused about Adolf Hitler and National Socialism in general? I highly recommend reading "Hitler's Revolution" by Richard Tedor. This book perfectly explains the true motives of Adolf Hitler and National Socialism and how it works. Free Download: archive.org/details/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor_383
Kayden Jones
Post your stats and ideology
>35 years old >Nazism >kissless virgin >Unemployed >Manlet
Julian Russell
High schools should actually teach kids the needed skills for them to be effective in the work force upon graduating.
If you spend 12 years in school and aren't useful to society after that, then it means either you are a retard or your school is a piece of shit. Right now it is both for America, lots of retards but for those who aren't retards they are bored to death and indoctrinated for 12 years and can't do SHIT for ANYONE after 12 fucking years of """Education""".
Maybe if they had gender and race segregated class rooms, the kids would be able to stop fucking around and actual focus. But it's hard to pay attention when Jamal has his dr. dre beat headphones around his neck turned inside out blasting his coontunes.
Aiden Scott
>36 years old >National Socialism >Married with 3 loving children (one on the way!) >Employed and paid around $90,000 a year. >6 foot
Brandon Reed
i would agree. sheeple are too brainwashed to separate these hellspawn from real christianity. the catholic church is a batshit crazy cult, no better than mormons or jehovas witnesses. he is right that modern christianity is poisoned and needs to go. hitler knew this in the 30s,where the misconception that he was antichristian comes from. orthodoxy is the way to go these days. the practices of mainstream churches and denominations would make jesus vomit. they are just jew puppets that tell you if you are not a tolerant liberal you are not a christian. my agnostic SJW landwhale professor calls me not a true christian and she is an agnostic with a tranny son. She tried so hard to indoctrinate me, but she just made me go SS in about a month. my redpill was white power RAC.
Eli Bell
You don't begin learning any trades until after school you faggot. Doesn't matter if you're a plumber or lawyer, nobody is useful at age 18
Juan Thomas
You make some valid points. HS do a piss job at educating the youth. I know the American people could be a greater intellectual level, because my grandparents were. Universities are an important tool for those that wish to be in STEM fields. Or fields such as aviation that require a large amount of work. College is good for the intellectuals so to say.
Leo Anderson
Nice. How did you kidnap the kids? Ice cream van? Who is your waifu?
Robert Morgan
I've been meaning to, but no haven't read it yet. Is it similar to Myth of the 20th Century?
>should university be free For those in the highest 20% of high schools students, yes. Because the nation has an interests in making sure the highest academic achievers are well trained. Other than that, no, not everyone should go to university. The Nation needs the majority of people to go into skilled trades.
Julian Hernandez
>28 Years old >Ethnic Nationalism >Had lots of sex with long term girlfriends but I've been single for a couple years now. Girls just are annoying and vapid. I go through "girlfriends" at least 2 a month now. I recognize what I do and don't like about a girl and there are a lot of trashy girls where I live so I stop talking to them without even fucking/dating. Looking for good wife/mother-of-my-kids material >Business Executive in an international industrial automotive manufacturing corporation >6'0''
EthNat with Capitalist leaning, but I'm more concerned about getting the Nation on a founded with Ethnic principles baked into the constitution. Once identity politics are out of the way, then ideas like capitalism and socialism may work completely differently and I'm not so much concerned about the economics.
Gabriel Gutierrez
>You don't begin learning any trades until after school you faggot Currently, you are right for most high schools.
But my high school had a vo-tec program that for half the school year, you learned a trade and the other half of the year was general education. So they actually could get specialized jobs after graduating from high school.
James Johnson
We have the same in Australia. It's a good starter but you don't graduate with a trade, it's basically giving you a head start. Everyone is pretty useless until having worked a few years in their respective industry.
Jonathan Reyes
One of the best books ever on the subject. Many other good ones in the ebooks archive and linked in the pastebin.
>Is it similar to Myth of the 20th Century? I don't know, I haven't read it.
This is a good part from chapter 1
Now how does the Under-Man look at civilization? This civilization offers him few benefits and fewer hopes. It usually affords him little beyond a meagre subsistence. And, sooner or later, he instinctively senses that he is a failure; that civilization's prizes are not for him. But this civilization, which withholds benefits, does not hesitate to impose burdens. We have previously stated that civilization's heaviest burdens are borne by the superior. Absolutely, this is true; relatively the Under-Man's intrinsically lighter burdens feel heavier because of his innate incapacity. The very discipline of the social order oppresses the Under-Man; it thwarts and chastises him at every turn. To wild natures society is a torment, while the congenital caveman, placed in civilization, is always in trouble and usually in jail.
Cooper Powell
All this seems inevitable. But, in addition to 24 these social handicaps, the Under-Man often suffers from the action of better-placed individuals who take advantage of his weakness and incapacity to exploit him and drive him down to social levels even lower than those which he would normally occupy. Such is the Under-Man's unhappy lot. Now, what is his attitude toward that civilization from which he has so little to hope? What but instinctive opposition and discontent? These feelings, of course, vary all the way from dull, unreasoning dislike to flaming hatred and rebellion. But, in the last analysis, they are directed not merely against imperfections in the social order, but against the social order itself. This is a point which is rarely mentioned, and still more rarely understood. Yet it is the meat of the whole matter. We must realize clearly that the basic attitude of the Under-Man is an instinctive and natural revolt against civilization. The reform of abuses may diminish the intensity of social discontent. It may also diminish the numbers of the discontented, because social abuses precipitate into the depths many persons who do not really belong there; persons who were innately capable of achieving the social order if they had had a fair chance. But, excluding all such anomalous cases, there remains a vast residue of unadaptable, depreciated humanity, essentially uncivilizable and incorrigibly hostile to civilization. Every society engenders within itself hordes of savages and barbarians, ripe for revolt and ever ready to pour forth and destroy
Gabriel Harris
Deutschland Erwache
Owen Reed
I sense a Jew here. No, they are my own biological kids.
...if...if anyone is interested in Folkish NatSocBlackMetal sung in German....
Robert Gomez
>I sense a Jew here. It wasn't obvious from his first post: ???
Blake White
Why the fuck would you read SS books. They were basically the useless betas in Germany at the time that went fanatical with Nazi ideology. They were so useless the Wehrmacht basically used them as cannon fodder in aggressive maneuvers to spare the professional army from excessive casualties. These weren't elite soldiers they were just told they were special genetically so they became infused with the willingness to die. They were used like the penal battalions of the Red army
We aren't white supremacists. We are National Socialists. We believe in the preservation and strengthening of our race, not the Superiority of it.
Elijah Green
Its just a resolution, just a bunch of politicians agreeing to say "X and bad" and do nothing legally speaking about it.
Carter Richardson
>Nazis are bad
ooooOOOoooo Just makes me like it more. I've always been an edge-meister. I loved dead baby jokes as a teen and the most extreme kinds of black/death/thrash metal. Telling me that being a Nazi is scary, mean, bad, against society just makes me want it more.
To be honest, I would love to say that that I'm an Ethnic Nationalist out of a sober understanding of evolutionary biology, sociology, history, and political philosophy. But I have to wonder what I would think if Ethnic Nationalism was what Post-Modernism is to our culture today, if I would still feel the same way or if I would rebel for the sake of rebellion. God I hope not.
Jason Barnes
trump has already served his purpose. he is polarizing and dividing the masses bringing power and sympathy to our cause. his mere presence empowers us no matter what he does. the more dumb shit he does the better.
Austin Torres
This! Post 1/2
The State is only a means to an end. Its end and its purpose is to preserve and promote a community of human beings who are physically as well as spiritually kindred. Above all, it must preserve the existence of the race, thereby providing the indispensable condition for the free development of all the forces dormant in this race. A great part of these faculties will always have to be employed in the first place to maintain the physical existence of the race, and only a small portion will be free to work in the field of intellectual progress. But, as a matter of fact, the one is always the necessary counterpart of the other. Those States which do not serve this purpose have no justification for their existence. They are monstrosities. The fact that they do exist is no more of a justification than the successful raids carried out by a band of pirates can be considered a justification of piracy. We National Socialists, who are fighting for a new philosophy of life must never take our stand on the famous 'basis of facts', and especially not on mistaken facts. If we did so, we should cease to be the protagonists of a new and great idea and would become slaves in the service of the fallacy which is dominant today. We must make a clear-cut distinction between the vessel and its contents. The State is only the vessel and the race is what it contains. The vessel can have a meaning only if it preserves and safeguards the contents. Otherwise it is worthless.
Jonathan Walker
Post 2/2
Hence the supreme purpose of the folkish State is to guard and preserve those original racial elements which, through their work in the cultural field, create that beauty and dignity which are characteristic of a higher mankind. We, as Aryans, can consider the State only as the living organism of a people, an organism which does not merely maintain the existence of a people, but functions in such a way as to lead its people to a position of supreme liberty by the progressive development of the intellectual and cultural faculties. What they want to impose upon us as a State today is in most cases nothing but a monstrosity, the product of a profound human aberration which brings untold suffering in its train. We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take up a revolutionary stand in the world of today and that we are branded as revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be determined by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries, but only by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In doing this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a clearer insight, and will not only understand the work we are doing today, but will also ratify it as the right work and will exalt it accordingly.
Adam Sullivan
This will give us, the New Wave of National Socialists to speak out and make ourselves known to the public as the political saviors of the US.
David Hughes
Is it still degenerate if I only ironically encourage my daughter to date black men?
Blake Martinez
It's probably safer to tell her to adopt a Pitbull or start a heroin habit than date a Black
Jonathan Richardson
ikr? i love flaunting my ideology in my ultraliberal school just to terrify and anger people for my own amusement. i believe everything i say, which terrifies them even more! its amazing. being edgy used to mean being a punk, a degenerate, playing heavy metal to scare your christian parents. now its the exact opposite!
Blake Jones
Race mixing is degenerate, no way around it.
Wyatt Ward
I've been thinking about these dynamics lately. Did you see that post recently about shifting the Overton Window using "positive radical flanking"?
Kikes don't need to tell their daughters to be whores, its in their blood.
Bentley Diaz
How is the state different from private power?
Grayson Sullivan
Yeah, they're not buying the spiel though.
Jaxson Baker
nope. i just know that the more we divide the faster this stupid country will fall and the 1st american reich can begin. i want to be an SS sturmfuhrer so fucking bad! good thing i was born just in time!
Camden Ramirez
Theres more of us being sold on it than you think...
Logan Harris
I can't believe that >A mother and father is a better family structure than two parents of the same sex is fucking punk-rock these days.
I can't believe that >People who want to chop off healthy body parts have a mental illness gets the same outrage that burning an American flag or spitting on the cross in the 1950s would get.
There was a thread about South Park that I brought up this topic. Cause there were lots of posters that were saying >South Park makes fun of everyone Which is utter bullshit. What made South Park great when it first aired was that it was crass humor and pushed the buttons of contemporary social sensibilities at the time. Which at the time, depicting Jesus the way they did was a big fucking deal. But society has changed so much since I was a kid that mocking Jesus is no long an artistically viable button to put in order to elicit emotion.
I wish South Park would do an episode about how fucked up Transexuals are in a very graphic and judgemental way. Something to get people to say "They should be taken off air!" like how they used to. But they got rich, comfortable making the show Tame and Lame.
Grayson Hall
two things are needed: #1 coalescing into a single, unified third position movement/party, and away from this "big tent" alt-right bullshit, and #2 learning how to dominate and manipulate the moderates on the center-right.
Kevin Russell
I've been NatSoc for 5 years and still believe it's beautiful. But after today I'm wondering if today's whites even deserve it. If we are so degenerate as to will our own destruction then maybe we deserve it.
Gavin Rodriguez
Then it's about time we get off of our computers and actually taking a stand of our ideology in real life. Let's give others knowledge to understand our struggle. Hold a public seminar about National Socialism, etc.... I have in my community. Sure, I was hated for it but, I inspired and gave knowledge to many who now know the light of NS.
Bentley Murphy
Wiemar Republic didn't deserve National Socialism but, the needed it. And, it worked. Today's Whites can still be saved. If we get nihilism our of our heads, we know that we can truly accomplish anything.
Blake Howard
How does this movement actualize into tangible societal change?
Every NatSoc proponent I talk to seems to advocate self improvement and "red-pilling" normies, but I can't seem to figure out how this will vastly improve the lot of whites in the western world.
Is there a "Phase 2" that I'm unaware of?
Grayson Richardson
Teenagers love to rebel against the establishment, whatever that may be. for the past 40 years, antichristian views, punk, leftism, tattoos, smoking, drinking, faggotry, extramarital sex were the ultimate way to piss people off. But they are now the establishment, which means kids will do the exact opposite. edgy leads to more edgy until they reach our level. it is but a matter of time
Jordan Sanchez
If Ben Shapiro and Milo-kike can't even speak in public without riots how in the hell can we go full-Goebbels?
One dumb whore in Charlottesville being dead is apparently more cause for national concern that three dozen nigger shootings in Chicago every weekend.
Camden Peterson
How do we drive home the reality that white people are suffering under this Jewish controlled system? Young white males are enduring bullying by "POC" offspring.
Brayden Scott
Dude besides the (((2%))) Weimar was 98% white.
We're half non-white; and one-half of us is self-hating.
Anthony Hughes
>Every NatSoc proponent I talk to seems to advocate self improvement and "red-pilling" normies, but I can't seem to figure out how this will vastly improve the lot of whites in the western world. > >Is there a "Phase 2" that I'm unaware of? You're describing the "passivity" phase we're in with the alt-right. Hitler talks alot in Mein Kampf about coalescing into a single focused movement and leading by example. At that point the dynamics change, when people see something strong and masculine to follow. The path seems clear to them, and recruiting becomes easier.
William King
>that feel your a spic but you love the white race and your own but the white man will never accepted you as honorary.
I wish sometimes I was in NatSoc Germany in the 1930's
Matthew Foster
Libertarian here. Just thought I'd let ya'll know I stopped using the AnCap flag because of the amount of anti-nazi shareblue shilling happening under the yellow and black. Really have to be shitty to get me to go back to reppin the leaf, but they did it.
Hunter Davis
>But after today I'm wondering if today's whites even deserve it. Racial loyalty is not a capitalist exchange of equal goods. Ethnic Nationalism is a system of LOVE.
Love of Race is as natural as Love of Family as it works on the same principles of wanting to see your genetics live on, and as social creatures things that are closer to us genetically. A cat killed with a hammer, an ant killed with a hammer. We feel more compassion for the cat because it is closer to us genetically. Among humans it is psychologically harder to commit crimes unto people who resemble you and easier to commit crimes unto people that do not resemble you. Just human nature.
When most people lived and died in a 30 mile radius from where they were born, pretty much the only time they saw someone of another race was when they were there to kill your father/brother, rape your mother/sister, steal your food and burn your house down.
People being of the same race mean for generations our ancestors lived, loved, and struggled against nature for eons. They are your family. It's own thing to know race statistics, but you have to feel race too. Feel your belonging to it and feel the kinship you have with others of the race.
So yeah, they most likely don't deserve it. But we want want is best for them. Because we love them. Because they are our family.
Elijah Thompson
We must have no fear. But, first of all we must start small. Adolf Hitler began by only talking to small groups of people at beer halls, libraries, and even on the street. Eventually, his following became bugger and bigger, resulting in the massive growth of the NSDAP in the mid 1920s. We must have patience, my friend. We must earn our large crowds and not believed we are "entitled: to them.
Carter Smith
It's one thing* to know race statistics**
Oliver Nelson
Right wing views and racism are the new punk rock, ironic or not. we all know how it worked out for the left. it will work for us and all roads from the current point all lead to national socialism eventually.
Kayden Sanchez
I see. Remember that the Weimar Republic's Germans were ashamed of being Germans after the war, believing they were failures after the war. We can still save them. It will take work, but it will be worth it.
We need to teach young white males that women follow strong men. That they need to fight for something whole heartedly of a higher value and concept. And that boldness, strength and leadership will get them women. Modelling their personalities, appearances and beliefs to serve women is why things are so hard for young white males these days. But if they had a burning goal to make an impact in the world and set their sights on the highest possible good, then in their journey if they glance behind them, they'll see many hungry women chasing him instead!
Aiden Wood
Do you guys ever wonder if you might be the next Hitler? I wonder about it sometimes, I can imagine taking that role. It could be one of you too. White nationalists need a charismatic persuasive leader again. Do you guys ever imagine being that person?
Chase Phillips
if it makes you feel any better the kike shills spamming IDF girls in bikinis use natsoc flags
Landon Lee
Go to your home country and make it a better place. Don't abandon your people. They need you!
Brody Flores
i wish. i have terrible people skills
Jordan Allen
I do sometimes. However, I still have lots of room for improvement.
Angel Jackson
was the S.S a volunteer force?
why is it regarded as elite if this is true?
Lucas Morales
Realistically, how long do you see this taking, if cultural marxism follows it's current trajectory? Do you think there is a faster way to kickstart the movement than to wait for the next Fuhrer?
Aiden Cook
because only the most committed would be strong enough to take it.
Mason Peterson
We have the capability to be much more than that now.
Every individual has the capability to reach any person on this earth that has the internet.
We aren't limited by a single person anymore. Every one of us has the ability to much just as much of a impact if not more, and if every one of us is taking on this role we together we can make a global change.
Cooper Flores
I admire your guys' optimism and strategizing and relentlessness, but I'm actually getting to the point where I hate white leftists and neocons more than I hate jews or their-nigger puppets: at least the latter two act out of self-interest and are rational in their perverse fashions.
But the liberal white shabbos goy is the worst of the worst: Judas Iscariot en masse.