Redpill on Premarital Sex

Since pol is a Christian board, let's here the redpill on premarital sex. Is it ok? Will God smite me if I do it? I've had premarital sex before but am thinking about staying celibate until I find a white, blue/green eyed, blonde wife to have children with. At the same time, it's hard to not escalate with girls. I've been off porn and masturbation for almost half a year and it's helped my game for sure, so there are more opportunities than ever for premarital sex. Also, should premarital sex be punished by law?

What think pol?

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>Since pol is a Christian board
Just stop right there.
No.
No.
A million times no.
We hate Jews.
Why the fuck would we follow a religion that was made, cultivated, and written by them?

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: but God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers

it's exactly the opposite of being Jewish, since they literally killed our lord and savior Jesus Christ, but yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night

Extramarital sex is only acceptable if it is incest. Otherwise it is rape.

There is no birth control that results in a 0% chance of conception. Children raised in broken families always turn out worse than children raised in proper, intact families. It's idiotic to have sex with someone you aren't prepared to raise a child with. The #1 source of these today is willing premartial sex.

>Since pol is a Christian board
No, nigger, no
>this cult started by jews isn't jewish
>because the traditionalist jews didn't accept it
What, nigger?

>it's exactly the opposite of being Jewish
>Old Testament
>Opposite of being Jewish

Wrong.

Sex can be degenerate but not necessarily. Get a gf

To all the ((( ))) posters, Jews hate true Christianity for a reason (they love Protestantism though, ofc).

It looks like I'll be on a quest for the perfect 3.14qt blonde Aryan wife then bros. Wish me luck. I will be using this guide: socialmatter.net/2017/06/12/how-to-catch-a-wife/

le dead kike on a stick maymay is a bit trite lad.

Yes, and Islam is a religion of peace and prosperity once you get past the entire Koran. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Premarital sex isnt a sin in the bible, the only place it is mentioned is in the old testament and the guy just pays a fine to the father and marries her

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Fornication is a sin in the Bible faggot.

Those who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 4: 31

That'd be better without the goddawful font

If you want the metaphysical / esoteric side consider this: You make a bond an astral bond with your partner that could take decades to dissapear, this same bond gets "bigger" with more intercourse

I have thought about this quite a bit. The Bible condemns adultery and fornication, but what does fornication even mean? David had concubines and Abraham had sex with Hagar, and God didn't say anything about that. Every king actually had concubines, and the Bible talks about Solomon having known over 1000 women and God never condemned that. Adultery, however, was condemned, so where do we get the idea that a man is only allowed to have sex with one woman for life? I just want to know where this idea came from.

because it is the biggest threat to them and you are doing exactly what they want you to do

Sin or not op, there is something to be said of those who embrace the player life style. (that is if they ever feel like settling down, they'll never find what their looking for or never feel satisfied with what they have.)

This is a great point actually. It took years for ex-gfs' energies to drain from my primary consciousness. Thanks OP. This is quite reassuring. There is one blonde blue-eyed qt I'm particularly tempted to have premarital sex with, but her dad is half Native American and her parents were also never married. Both of those are way more than enough to ensure that I have no intention of marrying and having kids with her, so I'm going to have to let her down gently and stop relations. There's chemistry so it will be difficult to maintain any relationship with her at all without sexual temptation resurfacing. The search continues... Seven blonde white kids here I come.

the greek word used is porneia, meaning prostitution as evident by its use in every other greek primary source

yes the male female union, is the act of all creation good post, too complex for most to discuss and understand

how does that refer to premarital sex?

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Which is why they all support giving Israel a blank check every year.

their leadership has been infiltrated by free masons, lol the Christians conquered the world, you can't blame an ideology for the actions of it's members who are acting again it's teachings

Jesus Christ, speaking to the Pharisees in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then answered the Jews -- "

Holy fuck, get the fuck off /pol andgo to /adv

There's nothing red or blue about premarital sex. You either have it or you don't. It's not a politically biased decision.

Personally I think it's an awful idea to wait to marriage to have sex. I know several men and women who felt horrible on their wedding night when they finally lost their virginity because these people who prided themselves on their ability to remain a virgin until marriage suddenly felt unclean and that one of the main things going for them was now suddenly gone.

For their case, it made a really big deal out of one of the most basic biological acts and a human can do. Sex isn't a big deal, just be safe and have a good time, and always be consensual. Don't be a douchebag waiting for marriage, there's no great pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.

And fuck off with this shit. Sage'd

*triggered*

I used my anecdote to talk about Christianity and premarital sex in general, get fucked virgin.

I actually wrote a book that has a lot to do with this topic, you want me to explain why the kikes want to destroy Christianity in detail?

Read this short thread bruv
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/140112259

Lol no sir, YOU get fucked, virgin. I have been fucking for many moons now. Now YOU go get fucked, you won't regret it dipshit.

Just realized how funny it is to use "virgin" as an insult. Damn kike'd mainstream culture.

If you read my post, you would know that I have fucked, but am not looking to fuck until marriage now, most likely.

male/female unity is an act of creation bruv. I have had many sexual partners in my life and was quite degenerate in this arena until I learned the truth. The male/female unity is the yin and yang of all existence, making it cheap and common destroys this bond that is the glue of all creation which is why the kikes promote it with pornography and feminism and all their other kikery

Personally, good sex is important to me in any long term romantic relationship. I consider it a part of the chemistry between two people that's worth evaluating.

sex is not cheap or meaningless and those that make it so are broken and empty

Sorry to hear that, any more info on what you read?
I'm btw

That is not to say I am for remaining a virgin until marriage this is for every person to decide for themselves, people don't need to be married to make a spiritual connection. But causal degenerate sex is soul draining

Quit putting words in my mouth. I never called it cheap or meaningless, nor did I ever imply either of those terms.

Sex should not be common, I agree it should be with someone you love and it ought to have meaning, but marriage is an artificial construct invented by society. Having meaningful uncommon sex before marriage does not make it cheap or meaningless. You can have meaningful premarital sex and non-meaningful premarital sex, there's a scale and a range there. And I never implied that premarital sex makes it cheap and meaningless because that ultimately depends on the participants.

This what the kikes don't want anyone to know
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youtube.com/watch?v=CYqGdMKzwbg
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read the dhammapda also brother

I didn't put any words in your mouth, you are putting them in mine. I never said you said those things I said them. Clam yourself brother, I am not the enemy

>artificial construct invented by society.
this is exactly what the kikes want to you think. The family unit is the most powerful thing that bonds people and promotes and produces a healthy society, see pic Men and women are two sides of the coin brother. We are are not meant to be alone, it is the union that holds the power. We each have our own traits that protects and advances our people. We are only a portion of the whole, only united do we shine

Consider why traditional societies typically restrict sex to marriage. How do traditions arise? They persist over time, which is not a low bar to pass. So traditional societies tend to converge on certain values and practices that work decently enough to not burn their society down.

In the case of marriage, producing children and raising them well in a stable environment is very important to the wellbeing of a society. This is best achieved by binding a man and a woman together for the purpose such that they can't just bail at the first sign of trouble, but are obligated to make things work. Human psychology plays a part in codes of sexual behavior. Experience with multiple partners inhibits bonding with future partners, so marriages are most stable and best for everyone involved if both people going into it are virgins and don't cheat. There is also a hormonal response that produces emotional attachment to a sexual partner, which produces "fireworks" with a new relationship, but which fades after a few years. Saving sex for marriage gives people a few years to build a relationship together on things besides sex, which can then persist, while starting a relationship with sex and getting married after a few years causes the emotional attachment to run out at the time when the partners are starting to build a life together in a real, official, managing the logistics of a joint household sense, but don't yet have things at a comfortable place.

But sex is fun, of course, and premarital sex isn't a strict deal-breaker for these things. It just makes long term success and happiness harder. So as with other "moral" considerations, how you live your life is up to you. I would caution you that if you're not mature enough to be able to control encounters with women, you're probably not mature enough to make premarital sexual relationships have a good chance of success. Look at the society around you if you want examples of how things can go wrong.

you don't have to stop jerking off, faggot

Sex outside of a committed child producing relationship is degenerate, no exceptions. Just observe people who engage in such behavior, 99% of the time they're a degenerate loser going nowhere. Chad bro party bros are no exception, they are just white niggers.

Premarital sex isn't a sin in the bible, the only place it is mentioned is in the old testament and the guy just pays a fine to the father and marries her

get this Satanic Jew shit out of here

lol the metatron is not Jewish it is the building block of all reality

six pointed stars are a symbol of the synagogue of Satan

The kikes perverted and tainted these teachings of reality and life satanic as they taint everything with evil. No this is strictly math bro, this is where you find God, the grand architect

lol brother see no this is the beginning of all truth

the six pointed star represent s the male female union
goldennumber.net/bible/

Actual redpill incoming

There are actual scientific reasons why having premarital sex is a fucking disastrous idea. It plays what is likely an enormous role in modern divorce rates

I'm sure you've heard this before, but it is as thus:
Sex, and particularly orgasm, releases endorphins and oxytocin, the pair bonding hormone. This brings you closer to your partner on a hormonal level. Sounds good, right?

Not for an unmarried couple. The thing about the release of these hormones is that they work regardless of your actual feelings on the other person. This can trick your brain into thinking you like the other person more than you really do. So partners that rush into sex early may find themselves over the moon each other, but if they stop for a week or two, they might realize that they actually hate each other in every other regard.

Premarital sex is a sin in the sense that your are damaging property that you haven't bought yet.

Women are no longer property to the father. Since the woman has this agency she can decide if she wants to take the damage.

there is no god but pepe

and I dont think he cares

>Solomon having known over 1000 women and God never condemned that
God did condemn that because they all led Solomon away from God and allowed the Israelites make temples and idols to false gods, ultimately leading Israel to fall. Sex outside of marriage is bad because when you have sex with someone, then you become one flesh spiritually and are one of the same. Having multiple partners destroys that spiritual connection and ultimately leads us astray from the glory of God. Solomon was the Wisest man to live but he was far from being sinful

good thing my girlfriend is too lazy to ever make me cum since 45 minutes is too long

I have the power. Yeah...

No I dont think lord Kek would personally mind ;)

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this is where God is my friend

>not being trad chad

Good luck finding a virgin to wife up

here you go mate
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sort your life out

God did condemn the actions of David, Abraham, and Solomon. Their conduct led them away from God and onto a path of destruction.

>David had concubines
His affair with Bathsheba had grave consequences. He lost his child and had his own son, Absalom, rebel against him (as prophesised by Nathan).
"Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised Me, and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife.’ Thus says the Lord: ‘Behold, I will raise up adversity against you from your own house; and I will take your wives before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun" (2 Samuel 12:10-11 NKJV).

>Abraham had sex with Hagar
This action has had far-reaching consequences for all of humanity. Ishmael became the ancestor of the Ishmaelites.

>Solomon having known over 1000 women
God may have allowed this, but he did not necessarily approve. His "wives turned his heart after other gods" (1 Kings 11:4 NKJV) and eventually aided his descent in idolatry.

That's even worse to be honest
One of the big hormones involved is dopamine, the motivational hormone. It builds up during sex, but drops off after orgasm. So if you have all this buildup of dopamine, all directed towards your girlfriend since that's the context of how it was built up, and there's no release for it whatsoever, do you not see this influencing your state of mind?

premarital sex is wrong only if the girl is a virgin.
roasties are doomed anyways.

It's not psycholgical healthy to be a virgin until your mid 20s-- probably not even past about 16.

The animal in us was just not made for that.

Premarital sex is a horrible thing from every perspective.

Previous partner count is highly predictive of likelihood to:
>Cheat
>Divorce
>Report higher marital instability and unhappiness
etc.

Perceived relationship satisfaction for women also correlates with sexual restraint.

Beyond that, there was an Oxford educated Anthropologist (Back before the discipline devolved into Franz Boas circlejerking), named J.D. Unwin who studied Sexual Liberation extensively. He found that Sexual Liberation was ALWAYS followed by societal collapse or severe societal waning.

tl;dr: Premarital sex leads to cheating and divorce which lead to higher rates of single motherhood, lower marriage rates, and lower birthrates overall. Single motherhood results in low parental investment in children. Eventually these consequences start to snowball and usually end up destroying society.

Recommended works of J.D. Unwin (I got them for free on JSTOR. I would recommend trying to find them on Google Scholar):

>Sexual Regulations and Human Behaviour. London: Williams & Norgate ltd., 1933.
>Sex and Culture. London: Oxford University Press, 1934..
>Sexual Regulations and Cultural Behaviour. London: Oxford University Press, 1935.
>Sex Compatibility in Marriage. New York: Rensselaer, 1939.
>Hopousia: Or, The Sexual and Economic Foundations of a New Society, with and introduction by Aldous Huxley. New York: Oskar Piest, 1940.

Well, considering that most women who ever lived produced children, and most men did not, to the extent that virginity well into adulthood has been subject to selective pressures for its psychological effects, men probably are made for that.

Maybe if your idea of self-worth is entirely based on having lost your virginity

Your conscious mind only cares about that shit as much as you let it, and your unconscious mind only understands primal urges

Old fag here. I was pretty promiscuous between the ages of 18 - 35. Finally settled down with a good wife and been happily married since then.
At the time, I thought the casual sex was pretty fucking awesome. With hindsight, I regret it quite a bit and it's not that valuable to you in the long run.

>Sex isn't a big deal
Wrong, faggot. People like you are responsible for the current state of affairs.

exactly what I said. Though I don't think it had much negative affect on myself as I am pretty spiritual, educated and based and never considered it cheap or meaningless even when being extremely promiscuous in my youth, but most people are sheeple hence the existence of the term, they should avoid this for reasons posted

Fantastic and well said, user. I believe you are correct, and aim to abstain from sex until marriage.

Jerking off is as bad if not worse than premarital sex.

Yup, exactly.

>heartiste.wordpress.com/
Great blog.

Interesting, and not surprising in the least. Sadly I'm not a virgin still, but I will do everything I can to make sure my future wife is.

Grats user. How did you find your wife? Was she a virgin when you married her? Advice for maintaining a healthy marriage? I'm in a similar boat, had promiscuous sex with 3 different partners between the ages of 20 and 25. Stopped at 25, am 28 now and finally about have my life sorted financially and career-wise. So now I'm ready to find a wife. I'm going to try to find one like pic related. Wish me luck.

I take that back I was negatively affected by investing feelings in the wrong women that had major negative affects on my life.

>Jerking off is as bad if not worse than premarital sex.

It's not great, but it's not the civilizational cyanide that premarital sex has tended to be historically.

Think again, how many young anons out there have perfectly healthy genes that are squandered on the carpet day in and day out? Both are horrible. No use arguing which one's worse...

Don't get me wrong, I agree it's horrible, but masturbation doesn't quite lead to adultery and divorce like premarital sex does.

It also doesn't result in single motherhood, and STDs like premarital sex does. STDs which, worth pointing out, are now having antibiotic resistant strains show up in places like France, Spain, etc.

Masturbation is a pit that young men find themselves trapped in; however, premarital sex irreparably ruins women.

>Sadly I'm not a virgin. Had promiscuous sex with 3 different partners between the ages of 20 and 25.
>I will do everything I can to make sure my future wife is [virgin].

kek. You want a a model-tier virgin wife? You're 28 years old and slept with several women. baka. Go back to Plebbit, you're the equivalent of a woman in her late 20s deciding to jump off the cock carousel.

I think the science says its way more important for the women to be a virgin than the man, I mean another man's dna stays in her brain for years after sex. not to mention the fragile emotions of a woman.

Premarital sex is a sin and screws up the relationship. For those who had premarital sex I hope you cherish your marriages before you get the inevitable divorce letter

Well put, I agree.

Thankfully user I have nice genes and take care of myself. Model-tier wife is on the way, will post proof after acquisition.

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>I mean another man's dna stays in her brain for years after sex
Source please. During sex, chemicals are released in the brain that help a person bond to their partner (similar case when a mother gives birth to a child). The DNA does not stay in her brain, but rather the bond...

>How did you find your wife? Was she a virgin when you married her? Advice for maintaining a healthy marriage?
I changed jobs, went to a big prestigous government department that employed around 250 people and found a good woman who was interested in me. You have to have something to offer a woman - in my case a good career and I was reliable.
Pay very close attention to the first 18 months of your dating - if you get any warning signs or uncomfortable feelings then it's not right.
No, she wasn't a virgin, but she wasn't a whore. If you've fucked around a bit yourself, it is a tad hypocritical to demand a virgin for a wife I think.

The Bible says that a man should refrain from sex with a woman if she's married. It makes no rules about what can happen before marriage.

The issue is adultery, not premarital sex.
There are some pretty good reasons to avoid excessive premarital sex, but you aren't going to be condemned to hell or anything like that. This is just Puritans using religious doctrine to enforce their moral codes.

What, did you think men and women were equal or something?

Yep. Mission #1 now is virgin Aryan wife. I think I've actually reached hte point where I won't want to have sex with anyone except my future wife.

Moral codes that exist for a good reason. Non-virgin women are trash for marriage.

I wouldn't say anything wrong with it, it's what animals do, but it's just that the mass populous can't control themselves on protection and end up making more inbreds. Post marital sex is better, because the purpose of marriage is to encourage offspring

>Model-tier wife is on the way
Keep in mind that women tend to be attracted to different things in partners than men. Men typically are attracted to signs of youth and fertility, while women are typically attracted to status (when looking for a long-term partner). If you're rich or highly placed in a hierarchy a potential wife cares about, a model shouldn't be too hard so long as you don't have some crippling flaw.

If they've had more than 5 or 6 partners before you, don't marry. My Mrs was in her thirties and still passed this test. If she had been in her earlt 20's I'd have been a bit more worried. I had honestly lost count of the number of woman I'd slept with before marriage.

Monogamy was common long before Christianity. Premarital sex is for whores and subhumans

Nope sex without marriage is a sin

It's extremely unlikely that anyone can make any revelations about normal human sexuality that haven't filtered through my thoughts in some form 1000 times. Suggestions maybe, but the way I feel about it determines my viewpoint and I can't adopt someone else's cosmology outright. Everything I just skimmed is only repeating my thoughts.

I know what I want, I know there are mostly disgusting manipulative whores and their loser walking dildos out there fucking everything up for everyone because they believed Jew memes. Participating solves nothing. I'm done with this shit, I only hope the race war starts before I'm old and frail.

Exactly. Every day I thank God that I am a man, and so should all male anons on this board. We have the opportunity to work to improve our value more than women do. Let us all not squander that opportunity. Godspeed.

>Post marital sex is better
yes but it's not always going to be feasible, or rational.
If you wait until you're 28 and married, you'll have to go through tons of mental insanity, anxiety, frustration.....etc. Puritans are fine with this, because they are masochistic freaks.

You don't wanna be this guy:
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>Since pol is a Christian board, let's here the redpill on premarital sex. Is it ok?

No, but then again, people were married a lot sooner back then. Nowadays many people go to college and it's hard to expect celibacy for 25+ years. Plus, you don't want to marry the first random person you come across. I would say have sex only in a committed relationship, that is better than casual sex by leaps and bounds.

You need to understand that ideally you should not have any sex at all (1 Corinthians 7), but God can tolerate sex within marriage - since it has positive side-effects like childbirth. Keep that always in mind, we are meant to transcend the animal within ourselves and through reason advance ourselves (the cause of God).

>Also, should premarital sex be punished by law?

Yes. Ideally marriages should be arranged.

>Is it ok?
Go the fuck ahead and have it as marriage is a bullshit ass deal that is not worth it.
> I've had premarital sex before but am thinking about staying celibate until I find a white, blue/green eyed, blonde wife to have children with.
Id rather just keep on fucking you are gonna trade away all sex just to commit to some bitch?

>we should tolerate degeneracy because people are getting married later

What if we just fixed the economic and social problems postponing marriage instead of tolerating whores?

Pre marital sex isn't talked about in the Bible.

lmao skioppy got cucked by cory, damn sad

Agree whole-heartedly. Can you invite me to a fashwave-esque Christian Discord brother? I'm in another Christianity one but it's not very active.

t. porn-addicted low value beta male

>I would say have sex only in a committed relationship, that is better than casual sex
Still a sin. God designed sex for within the confines of marriage, for when a man and a woman cleave to each other and become one flesh.
"“For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins”.
-Hebrews 10:26 (NKJV)

>hard to expect celibacy for 25+ years
Who said being a Christian was ever going to be easy? Look at the early Church...
“The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; My God, my strength, in whom I will trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold”.
-Psalm 18:2 (NKJV)