Catalonia

ITT your opinion about catalan independence.

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I don't know a lot about modern Spain (as about old Spanish Empire) but the fact that goverment did nothing against islamization and arresting man foк manspredding..

did official Spain just betrayed it own's history?

Stupid, balkanization does nothing but lose your place at the big boy table.

*betray

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I just founded it

If you have your unique language - it could save it

I don't think that Poland could have Polish now if they would stay in Russia.

Unique culture and language is nice and all but when your population and gdp is 1/20th the size of everyone elses theres very little inclination to take your country seriously.

I'm always pro full independence for anyone who asks for it.

I see no point for or against, thus against.

If it was a National Socialist independence I would support it.

>Catalonia
Commie fucktards, real spaniards should reconquista and genocide them.

Actually, it's local governments such as Barcelona's that are really pushing for an influx of refugees.

If they secede they would need the extra working force.

Spain's pretty shit right now with the current government, not like the previous was any better though.

But the real problem I see is that they're saying from the Spanish side that they will NEVER accept a vote on the matter, and this left no way out to current politicians on the pro independence side to say fuck it, let's do it now then.

I think with a smart campaign and an agreed referendum independence could have not gained the force it has now.

I'm curious as to what will happen that day, it's going to be interesting...

Spanish government (not catalonian) invested money in saving and teaching their language, as with the basques and valencians. So no, the language thing is a stupid argument.

Why? I mean what's the point? It's like if Alabama decided to become independent for no real reason and everyone took it seriously.

If Kosovo, Crimea, Ossetia, and all the other Banana republics can split and be annexed, why can't Catalonia? If they're the ones pushing for refugees, it'll be better for Spain if they leave. Barcelona's only fuckin economy is tourism, if they wanna kill that with a million shitskins, fuck 'em.

I found the one guy here who knows anything about Catalonia.

Franco didn't tolerate this bullshit.

Spain should use full military force if neccessary if indepence is declared. Otherwise their fellow citizens will be massacred by the separatist antifas and then Civil war will return to Spain. Do not let it happen!

Hay una figura legal en la constitucion mediante la cual, por peticion popular, se puede pedir al congreso que valoren cualquier tipo de propuesta. Asi hizo ibarretxe con el fallido referendum vasco, pero le rechazaron por vinculos con batasuna. En el caso catalan no tendrian muchos argumentos para frenarlo. Pero donde esta esa voluntad popular?
Mejor que los politicos nos lleven de la mano como ovejitas.

Looks like a dirty Rican flag.

Exacto, lo haces así pero hace 5 o 6 años y no hubieran sacado ni un 25%. El problema lo tienen ahora, aunque sigo creyendo que un referendum, sea este o cualquier otro, si no participa ni el 60-70% de la población, no debería ser vinculante para algo tan importante.

Catalonia = Commiefornia

I can't even imagine who is behind this (((independence))).

>unique

Catalan is French spoken by a drunk Portuguese.

This.

The amount of Marranos in Catalan high society is staggering

Why does the EU and the left support Catalan indepdence but opposes the UK leaving the EU?

Who?

best example of divide and conquer in spain.

I tought that EU opposed Catalonias independency

even the filthy mapuche?

This is what must happen to traitors!