Give me one reason why should i believe in atheism

Give me one reason why should i believe in atheism.

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you can't change what you believe. either you believe in something fake or something in front of your eyes. an incurable mental illness.

I think the sane approach is Agnosticism.

>believe in atheism
nice one

Everything came out of nothing. It's called science. Read a book. *tips penis*

I'm asking you why should i believe in atheism. Not how everything started.

Because it is better for you.

you shouldn't
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Because there is no proof for religion.

burden of proof

Atheists exists hence atheism is real.

>believe
>atheism

When making a claim, the burden of proof is on the person making that claim. No one has ever been able to provide concrete evidence that god does exist.

Atheism is the more logical assumption.

You shouldn't, Dawkins and crew are eating their words right now thinking the great fedora enlightenment would lead to a society of supreme gentlemen and values based on morals, now everyone is a bunch of self absorbed cuckolds, religion was the cure to people only feeding them in the now and not bettering themselves for the later. Also "there was a ton of nothing and then it exploded into infinite something's" is AS STUPID as saying "someone or thing created the universe" you may as well air on the side of values that will further promote Western Civilization instead of letting Muhammad rape you and setting yourself on a life path that will destroy you

>believes in what's in front of his eyes
>doesn't reconfirm every experiment
>doesn't even read scholarly journals
>doesn't reason from a priori truths or axioms
>instead blindly trusts the 'scientific establishment' as translated by their priestly class

Need to get better at appealing to authors and emotions if you really want to sell your scientifically verifiable reality.

haha religious cucks getting triggered about people not believing in something unprovable, you are worse than the sand niggers with their rape religion

>now everyone is a bunch of self absorbed cuckolds
They have always been self-absorbed cuckolds, user.

Atheism merely shows things as they really are.

At least in pretending you can eventually become something greater, atheism on a small scale is acceptable but the rise in atheism has shown exactly that the slippery slope does exist and we need either religion or some kind of socialism contract that people aren't going to be the biggest fucking degenerates they possibly can be

Social contract** nice try google

Give me one reason why i should believe in christianity.

No religion or social contract can stop the behavioral sink.

The belief that ideologies change people is the most persistent bluepill in history. Only death changes people.

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>Give me one reason why should i believe in atheism.
If you get a lobotomy, atheism will then make perfect sense.
In all seriousness though, there are atheists who have been lied to about Christianity and there are atheists who hate God. I'd say 95% of adult atheists fall into the latter category. Have mercy on the rest, though. They really are searching for truth and will value it if you offer it to them.

because you're italian

you get to be euphoric

>What is science?

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You don't "believe" in Atheism. Atheism is a lack of belief. Anyone who claims otherwise is almost certainly a neckbeard who thinks being snarky to theists counts as a debate.

>Christianity
>The belief that there was a magic entity that magically created everything for no reason.
Makes perfect sense.

What? You are trying to question something?
Fucking atheist neck beard!

There is none. How can something come from nothing? This KILLS the atheists.

Why do people make a big deal out of this? It's fucking nothing. Don't be atheist. No one cares. Be atheist. No one cares. It changes nothing.

> more logical assumption
> can't or has never been able to produce a functioning society on its on

Ateism = leeching Cuckism

>a position of logical reasoning should be able to create a society or it isn't good
>a claim on knowledge or lack thereof is the same thing as a structure based on a religion

You don't "believe" in atheism, that doesn't make sense. You just become an atheist

> a position of logical reasoning should be able to create a society or it isn't good
Indeed
>a claim on knowledge or lack thereof is the same thing as a structure based on a religion
What structure exactly? You can be as vague as you want but it just shows lack of determinism in atheism if you can't define such a simple term

because there is no reason to believe in a divine creator with a purpose for his creation. there is even less of a reason to believe in ONE of the millions of religions out there.

> Belief in nothing means you don't believe in anything
let me guess, all the matter of universes came from a space smaller than size of needle point too in the Big Bang.

You!!! MY ARCH NEMESIS! So you vvant to have the debate again don't you?
>:-D This thread alvvays makes me laugh

Sell yes. Even the pope believes that much. That theory was created by a catholic priest btw. It's backed up by enormous amounts of experimental and observational evidence.

It doesn't imply God didn't create the big bang though.

Well* yes

Don't, be Christian in order to piss your kike overlords

Because there is no empirical evidence of any literal divinity. However just because you dismiss fundamentalism (believing in an literal god is fundamentalist) does not mean that the mythology, morals, themes, etc are absolutely devoid of value. You just need to recognize their symbolic value which is not as big a stretch as you might think.

>Indeed
Are you fucking retarded? How many successful societies have been formed by germ theorists? No one expects them to form a society because that's not what they're for, ya cunt.
>what structure
The crown deferring to the pope? The crusades? and no, I don't mean the Christians burning and pillaging everything, I mean the Christians forming and organizing a fighting force to repel interlopers,which is something you need a structure for. The greatly overstated but still relevant dark ages? Rome? Government at the time, which was heavily influenced if not outright ruled by the church? Atheism has nothing to do with any of these things, so I don't see what it really has to do with successfully forming a society when that's not its purpose or plan.

Why God created the world?Why is he here?How it borned?He was just here for no reason?Why he doesen't intervene anymore in the world?

>What is science?
>Proceeds to BTFO fundmental laws of thermodynamic in the process of legitimizing the Big Bang

>Proceeds to BTFO any logic to ((believe)) in the theory of evolution according to which a 2M year old evolved monkey is above the whole animal kingdom that has been evolving hundreds of times longer (ie sharks= 200Myears)

you're a good goy leaf, keep sucking off Bill Nye and watching TV

You don't have to, nobody is forcing you.

>believe
>atheism
topkek

>How can something come from nothing?
Obvious strawman aside, what is nothing?

It's also not actually been observed only inferred. It also has no real predictive power.

>something can't come from nothing
>btw, god came from nothing
T. A christcuck

>why doesn't he intervene in the world anymore?

Dude you're like a child who grows up and thinks suddenly your parents aren't your parents.

>I don't understand thermodynamics or the big bang
Thermodynamics couldn't exist as we know it if the universe didn't exist yet. We have no idea what it was like before, because the very concept of "before" may not even have existed.

>if we came from monkeys in a couple hundred thousand years why are there still sharks?
Because they didn't need to change. A shark suits its environment then, and it does now. Change to what?

That's a generalation of the theory, I remember that I saw an article by a physicist that said that there was a universe before the big bang and after it the old universe turned into ours

>Zeus is responsible for thunder and lightning

It has rather incredible predice power. One prediction being the cosmic microwave background. There's many other cases were the big bang theory has made predictions later verified, like quantum fluctuations being visible as sound waves in the CMB and creating the distribution of galaxies seen in the early universe. Lots of other shit too.

The question remains though. What was before the this universe - and an infinite times before.

Something cant come from nothing, therefore creation is the most plausible explanation.

There are 2 things you're just not getting about this. First, what is nothing? Until you define it you can't say something can't come from it.
The next thing you need to keep in mind is that time did not work the way it does now before the bug bang happened. The term "before" implies progression from one time to another. That does not need to happen as far as we know.

>Something cant come from nothing
If that's true then God can't exist either because you can't explain where he came from.

There is none.
Atheism is the dumbest religion.

Nothing is a metaphysical construction of the complete lack of actuality. the roomless room.

In terms of creation it would mean a state of being without any particles or movement. From this state there cant come something from because there is nothing.

If you can explain me from where the atoms or strings are coming and originated please go ahead. The evolutionary model cant explain this question without resorting to myth on its own - ironically enough.

>there was time before the universe
Come on now.

Nah in the same vein as certain parts of evolution the overall theory works in a time scale we can't directly interact with. Furthermore we're actually regressing further away from being able to interact in a lot of ways.

4/10 analogy. Not coming close to answer the question why actual particles can come from nothing....

>Atheism is a belief

It's a lack of belief despite what pop culture tells you.

>if you can't explain the nature of the universe then that's proof for god

I could do this all day

>Nah
Yah. Maybe tell me why I'm wrong.

>Something came from nothing. In fact, everything came from nothing, and it just happened
>Is somehow more believable than "there was an acting thing(person,creature,force) that transcends existence as we know it that created a string of events
What caused the big bang? Scientists insist that it was nothing and it just happened which violates their own scientific method. I'm not saying it was Jesus but something that is beyond human understanding took place and the way "scientists" dance around this while still saying belief in a higher power is SHTYOOPED! is disingenuous at best

How do you know they come from nothing?

That is why he is being called god. Because he can create something out of nothing and this explanation is still more reasonable than saying
> hurr durr particles accidently formed itself


It will take a few more years for you to realize that the believe in God is perfectly reasonable and that there is a god. But one step at a time one step at a time.

Dr E.M. Jones can help.

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You didn't listen to me, there was a universe before ours and the the big bang happened.

I wonder who will bite.

>Scientists insist that it was nothing
Only your shitty Discover channel burger teir documentaries. Actual scientists don't know what caused the big bang if anything did. The cause of the big bang is not part of the big bang theory.

You are avoiding the very clear question how actual particles can come from nothing.

>makes sense to say God came from nothing
>doesn't make sense to say the universe came from nothing
Cool

Dawkins is closer to being a potato nigger than a burger

this is why

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Ok, what you just said doesn't help anyone in both parties.

You're really not on the top of this.

This

>4/10 analogy
That's not the point.
>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
This is. To cavemen we look like gods. You're asking cavemen questions. "Where did this and that come from?"
>Chinese cartoon
Yeah I wonder

> Even the pope believes that much
yeahnah ladafam, don't think so
> It doesn't imply God didn't create the big bang though.
This is true desu.
> It's backed up by enormous amounts of experimental and observational evidence
It's based on logical observation of physical phenomena that have been conducted on Earth and verified by external observation of those physical phenomena in space where some of the same phenomena has taken place.
Matter doesn't pop up out of nothing lad, even PhD level experts can't come to terms with what exactly created all of the material in this universe, as it cannot just blow up out of nothing. That goes against every observed physical phenomena.

It's the truth. That's all i care about supporting.

Go on

The bible will enlighten you about your enquiries. The root of evil is the fall of grace due to sin. The human creed "I wont serve god, I serve myself" trying to become god. I suggest you start with John, then Genesis.

That's doesn't prove anything.

>Matter doesn't pop up out of nothing lad
What are virtual particles for 500 alex

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There will never be proof one way or the other. Believe what you want to believe and get on with your life

What kind of theory doesn't explain the only thing that could help it prove it's truth?

user, it is not about the nature of universe but its origin. And its origin is even more peculiar than its nature. The question remains. What was pre-substance and how came substance into existence?

Many theories? It's like finding a crater and saying "an explosion must have happened here" and then a brainlette like yourself says "but you can't prove there was an explosion because we don't know the cause!"

You are one step upfront, even if there were particles, strings etc. what was their source.

>How many successful societies have been formed by atheists
Exactly 0, which is my point too. Not a single Atheist society has reached anything but mud hut societies from hunter gatherers.
All the modern atheist societies are products of religious societies before them. And even now after 20 years of standing under spotlight there's nothing but fedora tipping cuckolds who worship dominant bitches and money and self loathing.
> organizing a fighting force to repel interlopers,which is something you need a structure for
Yes, that's called hierarchy.
That's the very reason why there has not been atheist society advancing further than mud huts.
Without greater goal goal and sound morals, there's no advancement, hence why you got this modern cuckoldry.

>a state with no particles or movement
No, that's vacuum. Vacuum is something. What's nothing?
>if you can explain where atoms originated then go right ahead
Idk. Neither do you. Neither does anyone else. People have hypotheses that include quantum physics bullshit that im not smart enough to understand and so don't talk about. But because nobody knows, that doesn't allow you to say "well then it's god" because it could be literally anything.
>what's nothing?
>You're avoiding the question of how something can come from nothing
Now something could come from nothing depending on what nothing is, right? Not only that, it's not actually "nothing we're talking about, it's something that MAY AS WELL BE nothing. Truth is, we don't know. Probably never will. We can guess, we can infer, but we'll never know. This is the problem. What stops it from being a tenth dimensional duck? A hologram? Remnants of another universe? A representation of thought? Nothing.

I guess they would exist by necessity.

What if we find out, the same way they found out about thunder and lightning? Is this the final "proof" or will you keep asking more question and if people can't tell you right away than that's proof for god?

You dont listen to me either. What was before the universe you are describing that came before ours?

You will figure soon out that you are thinking in circles. But you should think more in points.

In the beginning there was the word.

you don't get tortured in some shitty place for the rest of your life

That's an awful example.