Discuss Intermarium

should central and eastern europe create their own Eastern Euroean Union aka Intermarium?

Poland, Ukraine, Romania in it's most simple form

Hungary, Solvakia, Czech, baltics

Serbia, and the other former Yugoslavia nations

Bulgaria, Greece, Georgia

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and Finland

it would not be EU like economic only but it would be a mix of NATO-like and EU-like economic and military union with a joint police/military force and joined economic system

This would be an alternative to NATO and should reduce the dependency on United States and NATO n the area or in case US or Nato reduces support to the area.

It would be a security alliance primarily and an economic and social secondary .

How do we replace hohols with humans?

What's hohols?

Poland and Romania have huge NATO support and they need to kick start this security union in the region now more than ever.

Intermarium could function as an eastern european version of NATO should reduce our dependency on United States .

I will keep trying to create a discussion around this because Sup Forums can probably push some meme agenda redpill people on Intermarium.

>What's hohols?

Ukrainians, you must be new.

It's a novel concept, but I don't think it'd be better than just maintaining a singular EU.

Subhumans unlawfuly occupying Polish clay.
Genocides have no public support these days.

Ukrainians might not be part of Intermarium at first because of internal conflict and corruption but they are deff driving Romanians and Poles to work together in security .

Oh god why
Just let us be independent from everyone already

If you want to be independent you need to group up with other like minded people who want to be independent. Being a lonely country far away from everyone with nobody defending you is a quick way to commit suicide by independence.

No to Jewkraine, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, Greece, and Georgia.

I don't think they will be part of Intermarium.

Georgia might not even be interested.

I think mainly Czech, Poland, Romania, Solvakia and Hungary may be the Intermarium possibly Bulgaria, Greece later.

Intermarium is not a country
Intermarium is a defensive pact

EU is mainly an economic union but has no "police force" hence terrorism rampant. Each country fends for itself.

intermarium would be more a security union so a united military force local police I dunno whatever you wanna call it. So we would still be part of EU but we would have Intermarium as our primary security organization as a better local alternative to NATO

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No thank you

>CHETIRI MORETA

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They are necessary as a buffer zone. Galicia's ours though.

woops

Intermarium would become economic union by collaborating in military and intelligence matters as well as in military technology. By unifying all these sectors you would get the biggest army in Europe . Pair that with American technology you would get the best military technology and equipment .

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Is just a picture if found. It includes a lot of areas that i doubt they would join like Kosovo, Bosnia . Those areas they just like to fight one another they don't look at the larger geopolitical issues. I think only Poland , Hungary , Romania and czech republic are starting to look at the big picture . Although my people , Romanians, seem very concerned with their own lil lives. I see Polish really woke in this matter although very racist

>it would not be EU like economic only but it would be a mix of NATO-like and EU-like economic and military union with a joint police/military force and joined economic system
that seems considerably more excessive than either EU or NATO

DESU I am not sure exactly how it would work out but it would be our own locally grown NATO alternative. Since the area is so small with similar cultures is easy to integrate much better than NATO member states are. Plus Eastern Europe is not as colonial and individualistic as western europe . France and Germany practically hate one another but so does Hungary and Romania but they collaborate much more even tho they hate each other. Eastern Europeans are way more chill and down to earth no sticks up the bum.

>Pair that with American technology you would get the best military technology and equipment
So you're telling me that a country that is propping up NATO and has invested countless billions into it would support a military alliance that would not only directly compete with NATO, but would consist of countries that are (or were) PART OF NATO.
That doesn't make any sense, whatsoever.

Also: for any kind of alliance to exist, there needs to be a strong state backing it. For the EU it's germany's economy, for NATO it's America's military, who'd be carrying this alliance?

yes please. the south east europeans are as bad as muslims - well actually they are muslims

It won't compete with NATO tho it would integrate with nato.

In fact I think Americans would love it because we'd be using american technology and buying american weapons and americans would spend less money to defend eastern europe

Local weapons means less money americans need to pay . But americans already installed anti missile weapons like Aegis and are selling us fighter jets and others so they simply become a seller of weapons and military experts in the area

>wanna be caught in a vice between ex soviets and nu soviets?
no

>Germs calling anyone muslims

Alahu akbar my friend

Germany LOL gtfo. Merkel is garbage. Merkel is of such narrow vision like all germans precise but unable to see the big picture. Americans see the big picture they know stability in western world means peacekeeping in stability all over the area .

The shit they pulled in middle east fucked europe up. But western europe fucked itself with their ideology driven by Merkelism. I dunno about you but I am tired of Germany destroying Europe

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your talking about the soviet union ??

also the whole point of Intermarium would be to reduce the pressure on US to help keep stability in the region. Plus who knows the region best Americans or us?

If US leadership changes next president might be like fuck E Europe we not gonna help you no more we're fucked. We need our own system that is and will always be there for us that is integrated with NATO that is a continuation of NATO.

well my country is fucked, but at least i don't have Alahu akbar dna

I'm genuinely interested in hearing why you believe this would integrate into NATO.

By 2050 50% of germany's youth will be allahu akhbar think again kiddo.

We might have bad blood but we don't have islamic sharia law. Germany has sharia law local areas.

Well the simple reason is NATO aka America is helping Poland and Romania investing a lot of resources and selling high tech weapon systems to those areas.

I don't know about Poland specifically but I am from Romania I follow the news consistently and I can tell you Americans are giving a shit ton of training like WW3 is about to start. We are even doing American's jobs in Afghanistan.

Romania is increasing it's military presence in Afghanistan. It makes sense because every american tin foil hat libtard is shitting on the president to pull the troops out of Afghanistan so they found us to to the dirty job for them. But it works for us because we're getting TOP NOTCH military training and gear.

So with all this being said we Romanian miltiary are getting more and more used to NATO weapon and strategies. Romanians are re starting their weapon building projects and making their own tanks based on NATO designs because that's what we're used to now.

So in other words what we know is America/NATO way and that's what we gonna keep doing .

When we were under russian occupation we were using russian weapons and building Russian/Soviet style weapons.

>We might have bad blood but we don't have islamic sharia law. Germany has sharia law local areas.
There's literally nothing wrong with shariah

>ukraine

no such thing

What are you talking about man? Sharia is like most barbaric Hammurabi Babylonian style politics that don't belong in the modern world.

Now in use in Germany aka the """""civilized"""" nation.

Germany has failed 3 times to take over Europe. Two world wars and again now opening borders let everyone in.

Europe is for everyone except for those who already live here --Merkel

>should central and eastern europe create their own Eastern Euroean Union aka Intermarium?

As based as it seams no.

Only if Helsinki is capital and Finland is the king of this union. All other countries are poor and stupid as fuck, their crime rate is nigger level and simply are not even close to the greatness that is Finland

>that don't belong in the modern world
Why are you defending this degenerate shitfest that is the modern world?

DESU I don't think Ukraine will manage to be part of it because it has too many internal issues. But it may be the battle ground between Russia and East/Central Europe. Proxy War between Nu-Soviet and Ex-Soviets

>ukraine

no such thing

That's a stupid plan. Finland is the only successful country there

I don't know if I would do it EU style with 1 capital. I think we need multiple capitals to keep everyone in check

that map reminds me of ripley number 7 in alien resurrection

soon

LOL

Germany should have given up after 2 failed world wars. They shoulda realized there is a pattern forming.

soon

Actually I have a feeling Russia is gonna break apart again.

Saint Petersburg is very anti Putin and a lot of Russian oligarchs are starting to hate Putin's centralized mafia like control.

Putin might win again in 2018 but it might simply piss the oligarchs even more. He keeps privatizing big businesses and forcefully replacing people in office and in lead at various big companies people are not only starting to hate him but starting to not listen to him anymore.

We can do better than sharia law dude. Sharia Law doesn't allow freedom of conscience. Islam is extreme statist, nothing to covet.

They'd have to ally with either Russia, Turkey or western Europe to get access to any trading partners just like right now

Geography is a bitch

Please, Russ-user. I know this is your job, but can you stop pushing this panSlavic nationalism shit for a couple of days. We don't need a new Soviet Union tyvm.

I don't hate muslims I hate their religion in most purest and radical form.

Sharia law is being imported by muslims and allowed and supported in various areas . Western world is based on enlightenment ideals of freedom and equality.

Why the fuck west is allowing muslims to make their own alternative backwards legal system ?? West is not a shithole. Go back where you came from if you wanna marry 6 year olds .

This is why we need to separate from western europe and ally with America even India and China .

nah bra

this won't be soviet union 2.0 thats EU

this is mainly a military union for security purpose like nato does. You not gonna tell me Nato is soviet style?

Plus soviet union was a socio-economic union. I'm telling you EU is socio-economic they have racial and gender quotas and whatever other idiocy laws.

VILNO NASZE

E Europe is a huge problem because the region sits half way between a bunch of idiotic super powers who are using it to make their proxy fighting . Germany doesn't want a strong eastern europe neither does Russia. Just keep em strong but not strong enough so we can invade them later kill their people. We know what's up.

Focus on ourselves .

Sort yourself out man.

The very existence of an alternative legal system is cause to brutally eliminate it, because this is the state's job to eliminate any threat to its own rule. There can only be one government, not two. That was the whole idea for the multi-generational struggle with the mafia, they were just businessmen with a different government.

So why is "the west" allowing it? It's entirely taken over by globalists, that's why.

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but we are eternally merged into one state
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Guarantee_of_Two_Nations
So your means our same as our means your. Vilno Bendras.

there will be 3 capitals

Looks good.
At this point it's clear that EU leaders actively work against native europeans so any alternative is welcome

Retarded idea. If such a state were to happen it would only trigger Russia to increase it's military budget. Russia today is what some kind of big enemy that threatens Europe? Russian expansionism is any worse than nato expansionism? Actually such a state in the minds of psychotic people is a tinkling of their inferiority complex. Hurr durr HURR FUCKING DURRR NEVA FORGET ABOUT TEH THREAT IN THE EAST HURRR FUCKING DURRRRR.

>dat Portugalicia

The way i see it it's not against russia.
Its to prevent Merkel ,Junker and the like from turning us into copy of the germanistan islamic republic

>another one of these "fucking retard who knows nothing of the culture, geography, history and politics of the area and jsut likes to paint maps like its vicky 2"

Well guess what fag nigger, the V4 IS the intermare, even more so with Slovenia and Croatia slowly inching closer to it. Shit like albania,greece, belarus, ukraine and other failed states can NEVER be a part of it.

just fucking take that shit. it use to be yours anyway. MAKE THE COMMONWEALTH GREAT AGAIN.