TRUTH

>"Culture"
>"Tradition"
>"Family"
>"Morals"
>"Nation"
>"Race"
>"Gender"
>"Objectivity"
Why do people in this day and age continue to believe and promote these blatant reactionary concepts? With time and science we have already proven how most of these are mere social constructs or harmful with no justification, such as with concepts of "Nationalism" and "Race" being responsible for the deaths of millions. Or ideas like "Culture", "Traditions" and "Family" which pointlessly chain people in slavery to the past.

Prove me wrong.

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Go teach muslims to abandon their religion and traditions.
When you succeed we well hear what you have to say.
Until then fuck off.

go live in china faggot

You're changing the definition of violence. Every fascist dictatorship has started with changing or destroying history and changing the meaning of the language being used.

Violence
>the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy
By saying I live in a culturally western society, I am not harming anyone, therefore you are proved wrong.

Tribalism is evolutionarily advantageous. We can transcend it moralistically, but it's a fundamental aspect of the human condition.

jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

Shitskins & retarded commies brainwashed by professor Shekelberg like you do not understand it because it's not ingrained in you scumbags.

>science proves these are social constructs
Really? Can you show me evidence? It was always my understanding that race can be measured in genetics, and sex is measured in chromosomes.
>not believing in objectivity
You have read full insanity. Why are prisons ever moral then? Who are you to say that murder is wrong? After all your opinion is only right in your personal belief. That mentality only works if other people agree with YOU

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Italians are shitskins of Eruope kek.. specially if you are southern Italian.. topkek

he's not wrong entirely. see ufile.io/wvhb6
biological-races-in-humans.pdf for one

>blatant reactionary concepts

Well are you fucking retarded

IMO it ultimately comes down to the value of abstractions.. liberals seem to have a problem with leaky abstractions. biology has moved away from the notion of race afaict because it is difficult to define rigorously (and perhaps due to political pressure)

>Prove me wrong.

It is all in your imagination - this is your own interpretation of the hallucinations you see around you every day.

nationalism, morals and family all make me happy. As a human beian, in AMERICA, do I not have the right to pursue my own happiness?

Much as I find your list somewhat petulant and childish, consider:
Nationalism can be positive - look at how based Garibaldi ended the civil war that had existed between Italian city-states that had existed since the fall of Rome, when he set out to unite Italy.

oh look the nigger learned some words. I had a parrot who could say hello as well. Shame that, just like you, couldn't understand the meaning behind his noises.

Indian top notch trolling

But anarchy and communism are concepts that are old as time as well. Why would anyone want to be a slave to the traditions of anarchy and communism?

science and time are social constructs themselves first invented by the arabs. Your whole argument falls apart from that

>1 post by this ID
OP, are you there? Do you think Garibaldi was right? Or do you think Italy was better off with battles between Venice vs Bologna vs Rome vs Sicily, etc for around 1400 years?

So far 0 arguments from all of these bigoted pissbabies

>Thinking I'm italy
Jinder the shit's got in your eyes now

Pfft. Go lie in your own pish, edgelord fake-flag faggot. You got nothing.

If Garibaldi was right he would have abolished the state entirely. The existence of borders is inherently bourgeois and divides humanity based on imaginary concepts

these are all good arguments faggot!
fuck you

u r a fagit XDDDDD

"race" has been thoroughly debunked in recent science

So racial differences in intelligence are imaginary? Are you saying that a black cow herder is equal to an intellectual like yourself? You really think Islam and communism are compatible?

Dipshits like you will argue that "hurr durr gays are natural look at these two lions out of 10 million fucking each other in the ass, it's totally genetic" however I can show you a million other instances of tribalism (which is the most natural fucking concept on the planet and has been for millions of years) and you'll still argue against it.
You're hypocrites, you're faggots, basic, dumbass degenerates who try to normalize the most mundane and ass-backwards shit and only actually use real science when you think it benefits your narrative. Any other time you reject it outright. You're stupider than any appalachian meth-addict but you actually believe the shit your dumbass weak little professor shoved down your throat instead of teaching yourself, reading, educating yourself because you have an actual desire to learn. People like you have always and will always be laughed off of Sup Forums because you think you know shit about shit and only know how to copy paste bullshit from your textbook. You don't actually have critical thinking skills, you just don't. The only reason you even got a half-assed response from me is because I'm having a drink and bored. In short, you should stay the fuck off this site or at least lurk more before you try to come around here slinging shit trying to pseudo-armchair some dumb ass Marxist bullshit.

Quite the opposite. The anti-racist creed was itself a social construct led by a set of jewish scientists that acted in concert under the umbrella of a marxist organization "Science for the People".

The names:

Richard Lewontin
Stephen Jay Gould
Jon Beckwith
Kaman
and on and on

non-arguments

Why? they are constantly under attack in various forms of imperialism. They have a right to religion and traditions temporarily until it is necessary for it to be abolished, like it will be for the rest of the human race.

Yes, and he will be the same intelligence as anyone in a developed country, given the same education.
Islamic Socialism is very popular

SHOW YOUR FLAG LEAF

Still haven't provided a source. Yes, we all know the sociological and anthropological definition of race.
>the only race is the human race
But you are intellectually dishonest if you don't acknowledge the biological differences between races. I'm Jewish. Inb4 "Get out goy you piece of shit. Die." and jews get diseases specific to them that other races physically can't get. The same applies to black people, middle eastern people, etc because they are passed down by genetics. That is 100% more scientific evidence than you provided.

This is a war universe, war all the time, that is its nature. There may be other universes, based on other principles, but this one is based on war and memes.

There will never be peace, only temporary ceasefires exist in our world. You think you will be better of alone, in this world? You need groups, they are a necessity for survival, that why everyone belongs to group, because those that didnt - disappeared.

Lewontin invented the idea that there is more genetic difference within populations than between populations.

Patently false. Because the differences within populations are random whereas the differences between races are correlated. Think of it like static on a TV screen versus a clear picture. The randomization is because is best understood as genetic drift on non-coding sections of the genome. Remember, only 1.5% of the human genome is protein coding. The rest is junk. It changes randomly with little to no effect. Therefore, those changes build up over time. The changes within the protein encoding section of the genome are subject to pressures of both cultural and natural selection. Therefore the changes are selected and preserved. They correlate.

National identity is retarded, all that a flag is nothing but a component of the nation lie

My bad for using the term "retarded"

i literally provided one here

Tell us, then, what YOU would like to have in place of current political systems, instead of petulantly whining. All I see is a child throwing his toys out of the pram, offering no viable alternative.

why is the white a jew?

>family is a reactionary concept
How fucking retarded. Why are communists always so fucking stupid, Sup Forums?

single moms perhaps..

Violence is good

you don't have arguments, you only have emotional opinions. no one is ever going to give up their nation and culture because some faggot told them too.

There should be no political system, the state much be abolished and the people will self-manage. Which would be simple with the abolition of capitalism, but be supervised a by a force of the people, like the Commissars to deal with reactionaries, racists, bigots and enemies of the people

If muslims have right to religion and tradition we also have the same right,even more since our traditions are superior
Unless you imply that we should have less rights,if so, simply admit that you are our enemy and be done with it.

Give one argument for the existence of culture/family or whatever

Commissars ARE part of a political system, though. You clearly haven't thought this through.

Die.

that's the reason why the human race had survive and prosper for so long it's because of culture/family

No. Muslims are constantly under attack and struggle greatly due to western imperialism. White people whine about their culture being under attack. It isn't. But exists as the dominant force in the world, crushing everyone else. It is essential for the unity of the human race for it to be abolished peacefully. Western culture is a trick to divide humanity.

If it's run by direct democracy it shouldn't be a problem.

see

after reading your posts I was sitting for good 5 minutes thinking how to express the sadness that flows through me when I see someone THIS stupid.
I cannot find the right words user. Youre a complete failure.

Family, especially the nuclear family, marriage and monogamy are inherently patriarchal and directly oppose the freedom of women and those identifying as such.

Muslims are under attack because Book 9 of the Koran tells them to make war on all non-muslims, and the remaining 5.5 billion people of planet earth shouldn't have to suffer because of the remaining 1.5 billion muslims stuck in the 7th century. Were those 800 Quareshi killed because of "western Imperialism", or the bloodlust of Mohammed?
Democracy is a politcal system and so are Commissars, how can you support this?

I feel the same about your country ever since it stopped being Socialist and turned to capitalism.

Yeah,your are Right
We should embrace the absolute opposite,that will fix things for the better!

communism propaganda aparatus is truly superior.
I honestly feel sorry for your soul.

> All differences breed violence

So, what? The use of violence is fine when the matter is self-preservation.

Most theologists nowadays have debunked the "islam is not a religions of peace" myth already

>Democracy is a politcal system and so are Commissars, how can you support this?
It is necessary sacrifice if it means fighting against the enemies of the people, like the countless people here that subscribe to schools of thought like, fascism, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, ableism, ect. If these people are allowed free reign in a socialist society, it will be a huge problem.

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Not as effective as bourgeois capitalist propaganda that has brainwashed billions worldwide, yourself included, clearly.

> Family, especially the nuclear family, marriage and monogamy are inherently patriarcha

It's the REAL FAMILY. The REAL THING. Modern faggots are jealous, so they try to redefine the concept by destroying it.

youtube.com/watch?v=jDR8qH_skKI&t

And the "real thing" has enslaved women for centuries with the lie that they have to remain "faithful" or have children whether she likes it or not.

Not true. Population Geneticists have been able to identify 14 distinct populations that would, in any other species, be defined as subspecies or races. That clinal zones exist does not preclude the existence of these 14 groups.

yeah because loving your family and your ancestors is the result of propaganda.
Go fuck yourself.

so how do you respond to this paper?
this archive is fucking enormous so i havent found anything that responds to it yet

Because science does not equal politics.

>family
>ancestors
Wow, you really are brainwashed

do have any proof of this bullshit rhetoric? did you know that the Muslims were the imperialist and still are today? you don't know shit about history or what is going today

>myth
The "theologists" are lying (see "Takiyyah").

You yourself are like a little 12-year-old girl wearing a t-shirt of a band to look cool, but getting BTFO'd when asked what their best LP was, by supporting a faith you know nothing about. The actual Koran has (in the eyes of ANY muslim) more authority than ANY scholar you can name.
>socialist society
Socialism is also a political system, but I thought you said previously you rejected them ALL as artificial?

And your empire was 10x as big and killed 10x as many. Your point?

also,

given that taxonomy developed prior to our understanding of genetics, what is the value of the notion of subspecies anyway?

Socialism transcends political systems, it is a human condition

and your communism was 10x as big and killed 10x as many. Your point?

Women LOVE being slaves when they fulfill their existence with a real men. It's the natural order of the things: Whether you like it or not. Modern society is giving a false sensation of freedom which is actually making us weak, misguided and dependent. Just look all the young people with heavy depression... It's the sign that we're actually hurting yourselves and not developing our full potential.

> A woman realizes herself as such and even rises to the same level reached by a man as warrior and ascetic only as lover and mother… [the feminine is] totally giving of herself and being entirely for another being, whether he is the loved one or the son, finding in this dedication the meaning of her own life, her own joy, and her own justification.

So is greed and murder. But it still a political system. How can you dispute this?

Even if you destroy the white culture,some other will take our place as dominant one.
And since you admit ours is dominant and superior why would you want to replace it with inferior one?
The only logical answer i can find is that you simpatise other cultures and whant them to take our place, that makes you and your ideology an enemy.

you're the one that is brainwashed

>They have a right to religion and traditions temporarily until it is necessary for it to be abolished
Why?

What's the Orwell quote? The poor may sometimes unite against the rich, but national consciousness will never be usurped by class consciousness.

Your entire worldview is utopian bullshit. Marx himself was a racist and only believed in "workers of the world uniting" in the context of a small sliver of western Europe. His historical materialism only applied to Europeans and he described an entirely different paradigm for non Europeans especially asian ie "asian mode of production".

>pissbabies
What did she mean by this?

ITT: Communist LARPer and friends

Nobody gets on Sup Forums to argue Marxism 101.

Women enjoy the fulfillment of life, that means she can enjoy herself with as many partners as she wants without a care for marriage or faithfulness. hedonism is by far preferable to slavery. Only virgins would disagree

The culture of white people has killed and enslaved millions. It is a problem, like all culture. Even Eastern cultures like Islam can be something of a problem as well, but they have caused nowhere near as much suffering as the west therefore it is preferable if they take over the dominant role that the west currently holds.

Years of being oppressed, see National Liberation

>Nobody gets on Sup Forums to argue Marxism 101.
Clearly neither do you, considering that you gave 0 arguments

You are blatantly anti white and will be resisted on those grounds alone. Just so you know.

I'm not here to argue about communism. I'm here to point out how incredibly sad you are, which clearly struck a nerve.

Why does oppression make them exempt from what you consider to be better? If you consider religion and traditions to be inherently negative, then why would you exempt one group from a purging of those values because they have been oppressed?

>they have caused nowhere near as much suffering as the west
Doesnt Islam still hold black people as slaves to this very day?
Also Communism is responsible for more deaths than both world wars combined

pretty sure youre talking straight out of your ass, mate. Either that or just trolling.
If trolling then great banter

because there are still people who call themselves american

Morality isn't subjective. Apprehend the true forms underlying reality and then talk to me, kid.

>You are blatantly anti white
I can't be "anti-white" if I don't believe in race

Not really, i've be right about everything in this thread so far

They have been responsible for far less negative things. Islam didn't colonize half of the world or commit countless genocides.
The extent of it's cruelty is some sexist and homophobia, which is terrible. But nowhere near the scale of the west.

>Also Communism is responsible for more deaths than both world wars combined
Been debunked thoroughly
>If trolling then great banter
thanks

You sound like a fascist.

Le new age pseudo spirititualist man

>hat means she can enjoy herself with as many partners as she wants without a care for marriage or faithfulness
you're a cuck lel
>The culture of white people has killed and enslaved millions.
so have all the other cultures and races your point? because white people were better at it? shit arguments
>Years of being oppressed, see National Liberation
yeah like Islam or communism never oppressed anybody
>Clearly neither do you, considering that you gave 0 arguments

you are arguing against Human Nature therefore you are anti-human, your utopia dream will never ever work

>Been debunked thoroughly
FYI it would be wonderful if you cited any sort of source because simple math says it hasnt been debunked at all.

I see youre on a shitposting spree here with all this, what do you even call it? anti-west trolling? either way, have fun and enjoy counting your (You)´s

You went from the plausible deniability of being the devil's advocate (because we both know you're wrong) to flat-out trolling in two replies.

Lurk moar.

"Violence" in the case of Krishnamurti though, i believe is more an agitation of the mind. Not necessarily physical violence. He is stating that it prevents confusion in the mind and psyche of the person not allowing them to see truth.

>diphshit AnCom doesn't realize that abstinence until lifelong monogamy is the most efficient and productive form of familial organization.
>wants to shout "pseudo-science" and muh freedumbs.