>"Culture" >"Tradition" >"Family" >"Morals" >"Nation" >"Race" >"Gender" >"Objectivity" Why do people in this day and age continue to believe and promote these blatant reactionary concepts? With time and science we have already proven how most of these are mere social constructs or harmful with no justification, such as with concepts of "Nationalism" and "Race" being responsible for the deaths of millions. Or ideas like "Culture", "Traditions" and "Family" which pointlessly chain people in slavery to the past.
Go teach muslims to abandon their religion and traditions. When you succeed we well hear what you have to say. Until then fuck off.
Logan Parker
go live in china faggot
Christian Cooper
You're changing the definition of violence. Every fascist dictatorship has started with changing or destroying history and changing the meaning of the language being used.
Violence >the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy By saying I live in a culturally western society, I am not harming anyone, therefore you are proved wrong.
Joshua Phillips
Tribalism is evolutionarily advantageous. We can transcend it moralistically, but it's a fundamental aspect of the human condition.
Shitskins & retarded commies brainwashed by professor Shekelberg like you do not understand it because it's not ingrained in you scumbags.
Samuel Hill
>science proves these are social constructs Really? Can you show me evidence? It was always my understanding that race can be measured in genetics, and sex is measured in chromosomes. >not believing in objectivity You have read full insanity. Why are prisons ever moral then? Who are you to say that murder is wrong? After all your opinion is only right in your personal belief. That mentality only works if other people agree with YOU
Samuel Bailey
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Nolan Sanchez
Italians are shitskins of Eruope kek.. specially if you are southern Italian.. topkek
William Sanchez
he's not wrong entirely. see ufile.io/wvhb6 biological-races-in-humans.pdf for one
Andrew Peterson
>blatant reactionary concepts
Well are you fucking retarded
Elijah Evans
IMO it ultimately comes down to the value of abstractions.. liberals seem to have a problem with leaky abstractions. biology has moved away from the notion of race afaict because it is difficult to define rigorously (and perhaps due to political pressure)
Samuel Sanders
>Prove me wrong.
It is all in your imagination - this is your own interpretation of the hallucinations you see around you every day.
Kayden Watson
nationalism, morals and family all make me happy. As a human beian, in AMERICA, do I not have the right to pursue my own happiness?
Jackson Carter
Much as I find your list somewhat petulant and childish, consider: Nationalism can be positive - look at how based Garibaldi ended the civil war that had existed between Italian city-states that had existed since the fall of Rome, when he set out to unite Italy.
Xavier Jenkins
oh look the nigger learned some words. I had a parrot who could say hello as well. Shame that, just like you, couldn't understand the meaning behind his noises.
Justin Young
Indian top notch trolling
Ethan Wood
But anarchy and communism are concepts that are old as time as well. Why would anyone want to be a slave to the traditions of anarchy and communism?
Colton Davis
science and time are social constructs themselves first invented by the arabs. Your whole argument falls apart from that
Dylan Martin
>1 post by this ID OP, are you there? Do you think Garibaldi was right? Or do you think Italy was better off with battles between Venice vs Bologna vs Rome vs Sicily, etc for around 1400 years?
Charles Butler
So far 0 arguments from all of these bigoted pissbabies
James Anderson
>Thinking I'm italy Jinder the shit's got in your eyes now
Adrian Moore
Pfft. Go lie in your own pish, edgelord fake-flag faggot. You got nothing.
Aaron Jones
If Garibaldi was right he would have abolished the state entirely. The existence of borders is inherently bourgeois and divides humanity based on imaginary concepts
Easton Parker
these are all good arguments faggot! fuck you
Hudson Lewis
u r a fagit XDDDDD
Jonathan Nelson
"race" has been thoroughly debunked in recent science
Chase Johnson
So racial differences in intelligence are imaginary? Are you saying that a black cow herder is equal to an intellectual like yourself? You really think Islam and communism are compatible?
Aaron Myers
Dipshits like you will argue that "hurr durr gays are natural look at these two lions out of 10 million fucking each other in the ass, it's totally genetic" however I can show you a million other instances of tribalism (which is the most natural fucking concept on the planet and has been for millions of years) and you'll still argue against it. You're hypocrites, you're faggots, basic, dumbass degenerates who try to normalize the most mundane and ass-backwards shit and only actually use real science when you think it benefits your narrative. Any other time you reject it outright. You're stupider than any appalachian meth-addict but you actually believe the shit your dumbass weak little professor shoved down your throat instead of teaching yourself, reading, educating yourself because you have an actual desire to learn. People like you have always and will always be laughed off of Sup Forums because you think you know shit about shit and only know how to copy paste bullshit from your textbook. You don't actually have critical thinking skills, you just don't. The only reason you even got a half-assed response from me is because I'm having a drink and bored. In short, you should stay the fuck off this site or at least lurk more before you try to come around here slinging shit trying to pseudo-armchair some dumb ass Marxist bullshit.
Jack Scott
Quite the opposite. The anti-racist creed was itself a social construct led by a set of jewish scientists that acted in concert under the umbrella of a marxist organization "Science for the People".
The names:
Richard Lewontin Stephen Jay Gould Jon Beckwith Kaman and on and on
Lucas Edwards
non-arguments
Why? they are constantly under attack in various forms of imperialism. They have a right to religion and traditions temporarily until it is necessary for it to be abolished, like it will be for the rest of the human race.
Yes, and he will be the same intelligence as anyone in a developed country, given the same education. Islamic Socialism is very popular
Wyatt Torres
SHOW YOUR FLAG LEAF
Wyatt Cook
Still haven't provided a source. Yes, we all know the sociological and anthropological definition of race. >the only race is the human race But you are intellectually dishonest if you don't acknowledge the biological differences between races. I'm Jewish. Inb4 "Get out goy you piece of shit. Die." and jews get diseases specific to them that other races physically can't get. The same applies to black people, middle eastern people, etc because they are passed down by genetics. That is 100% more scientific evidence than you provided.
Henry Bennett
This is a war universe, war all the time, that is its nature. There may be other universes, based on other principles, but this one is based on war and memes.
There will never be peace, only temporary ceasefires exist in our world. You think you will be better of alone, in this world? You need groups, they are a necessity for survival, that why everyone belongs to group, because those that didnt - disappeared.
Parker Nguyen
Lewontin invented the idea that there is more genetic difference within populations than between populations.
Patently false. Because the differences within populations are random whereas the differences between races are correlated. Think of it like static on a TV screen versus a clear picture. The randomization is because is best understood as genetic drift on non-coding sections of the genome. Remember, only 1.5% of the human genome is protein coding. The rest is junk. It changes randomly with little to no effect. Therefore, those changes build up over time. The changes within the protein encoding section of the genome are subject to pressures of both cultural and natural selection. Therefore the changes are selected and preserved. They correlate.
Camden Brooks
National identity is retarded, all that a flag is nothing but a component of the nation lie
Brandon Long
My bad for using the term "retarded"
Bentley Murphy
i literally provided one here
Jackson Jenkins
Tell us, then, what YOU would like to have in place of current political systems, instead of petulantly whining. All I see is a child throwing his toys out of the pram, offering no viable alternative.
Oliver Price
why is the white a jew?
Hudson Hill
>family is a reactionary concept How fucking retarded. Why are communists always so fucking stupid, Sup Forums?
Noah Peterson
single moms perhaps..
Ryan Jones
Violence is good
Colton Sullivan
you don't have arguments, you only have emotional opinions. no one is ever going to give up their nation and culture because some faggot told them too.
Ryder Sullivan
There should be no political system, the state much be abolished and the people will self-manage. Which would be simple with the abolition of capitalism, but be supervised a by a force of the people, like the Commissars to deal with reactionaries, racists, bigots and enemies of the people
Isaiah Gray
If muslims have right to religion and tradition we also have the same right,even more since our traditions are superior Unless you imply that we should have less rights,if so, simply admit that you are our enemy and be done with it.
Ryder Williams
Give one argument for the existence of culture/family or whatever
Landon Russell
Commissars ARE part of a political system, though. You clearly haven't thought this through.
Ryder Richardson
Die.
Sebastian Sullivan
that's the reason why the human race had survive and prosper for so long it's because of culture/family
Henry Gonzalez
No. Muslims are constantly under attack and struggle greatly due to western imperialism. White people whine about their culture being under attack. It isn't. But exists as the dominant force in the world, crushing everyone else. It is essential for the unity of the human race for it to be abolished peacefully. Western culture is a trick to divide humanity.
Elijah Robinson
If it's run by direct democracy it shouldn't be a problem.
Landon Peterson
see
Ayden Cook
after reading your posts I was sitting for good 5 minutes thinking how to express the sadness that flows through me when I see someone THIS stupid. I cannot find the right words user. Youre a complete failure.
Oliver Hughes
Family, especially the nuclear family, marriage and monogamy are inherently patriarchal and directly oppose the freedom of women and those identifying as such.
Hudson Kelly
Muslims are under attack because Book 9 of the Koran tells them to make war on all non-muslims, and the remaining 5.5 billion people of planet earth shouldn't have to suffer because of the remaining 1.5 billion muslims stuck in the 7th century. Were those 800 Quareshi killed because of "western Imperialism", or the bloodlust of Mohammed? Democracy is a politcal system and so are Commissars, how can you support this?
Brayden Rogers
I feel the same about your country ever since it stopped being Socialist and turned to capitalism.
Tyler Clark
Yeah,your are Right We should embrace the absolute opposite,that will fix things for the better!
Hudson Fisher
communism propaganda aparatus is truly superior. I honestly feel sorry for your soul.
Blake Campbell
> All differences breed violence
So, what? The use of violence is fine when the matter is self-preservation.
Dylan Powell
Most theologists nowadays have debunked the "islam is not a religions of peace" myth already
>Democracy is a politcal system and so are Commissars, how can you support this? It is necessary sacrifice if it means fighting against the enemies of the people, like the countless people here that subscribe to schools of thought like, fascism, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, ableism, ect. If these people are allowed free reign in a socialist society, it will be a huge problem.
Nathan Phillips
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Ethan Jackson
Not as effective as bourgeois capitalist propaganda that has brainwashed billions worldwide, yourself included, clearly.
Ryan Sullivan
> Family, especially the nuclear family, marriage and monogamy are inherently patriarcha
It's the REAL FAMILY. The REAL THING. Modern faggots are jealous, so they try to redefine the concept by destroying it.
And the "real thing" has enslaved women for centuries with the lie that they have to remain "faithful" or have children whether she likes it or not.
Ryan Taylor
Not true. Population Geneticists have been able to identify 14 distinct populations that would, in any other species, be defined as subspecies or races. That clinal zones exist does not preclude the existence of these 14 groups.
Jordan Johnson
yeah because loving your family and your ancestors is the result of propaganda. Go fuck yourself.
Aiden Price
so how do you respond to this paper? this archive is fucking enormous so i havent found anything that responds to it yet
Ayden Baker
Because science does not equal politics.
Caleb Reyes
>family >ancestors Wow, you really are brainwashed
Jacob King
do have any proof of this bullshit rhetoric? did you know that the Muslims were the imperialist and still are today? you don't know shit about history or what is going today
Jaxson Parker
>myth The "theologists" are lying (see "Takiyyah").
You yourself are like a little 12-year-old girl wearing a t-shirt of a band to look cool, but getting BTFO'd when asked what their best LP was, by supporting a faith you know nothing about. The actual Koran has (in the eyes of ANY muslim) more authority than ANY scholar you can name. >socialist society Socialism is also a political system, but I thought you said previously you rejected them ALL as artificial?
Joseph Phillips
And your empire was 10x as big and killed 10x as many. Your point?
Jonathan Bailey
also,
given that taxonomy developed prior to our understanding of genetics, what is the value of the notion of subspecies anyway?
Andrew Gray
Socialism transcends political systems, it is a human condition
Lincoln Rogers
and your communism was 10x as big and killed 10x as many. Your point?
Lincoln Murphy
Women LOVE being slaves when they fulfill their existence with a real men. It's the natural order of the things: Whether you like it or not. Modern society is giving a false sensation of freedom which is actually making us weak, misguided and dependent. Just look all the young people with heavy depression... It's the sign that we're actually hurting yourselves and not developing our full potential.
> A woman realizes herself as such and even rises to the same level reached by a man as warrior and ascetic only as lover and mother… [the feminine is] totally giving of herself and being entirely for another being, whether he is the loved one or the son, finding in this dedication the meaning of her own life, her own joy, and her own justification.
Nicholas Foster
So is greed and murder. But it still a political system. How can you dispute this?
Nathan Ramirez
Even if you destroy the white culture,some other will take our place as dominant one. And since you admit ours is dominant and superior why would you want to replace it with inferior one? The only logical answer i can find is that you simpatise other cultures and whant them to take our place, that makes you and your ideology an enemy.
Levi Russell
you're the one that is brainwashed
Thomas Brown
>They have a right to religion and traditions temporarily until it is necessary for it to be abolished Why?
Jackson Sanders
What's the Orwell quote? The poor may sometimes unite against the rich, but national consciousness will never be usurped by class consciousness.
Your entire worldview is utopian bullshit. Marx himself was a racist and only believed in "workers of the world uniting" in the context of a small sliver of western Europe. His historical materialism only applied to Europeans and he described an entirely different paradigm for non Europeans especially asian ie "asian mode of production".
Mason Gray
>pissbabies What did she mean by this?
Henry Moore
ITT: Communist LARPer and friends
Nobody gets on Sup Forums to argue Marxism 101.
Jeremiah Perez
Women enjoy the fulfillment of life, that means she can enjoy herself with as many partners as she wants without a care for marriage or faithfulness. hedonism is by far preferable to slavery. Only virgins would disagree
The culture of white people has killed and enslaved millions. It is a problem, like all culture. Even Eastern cultures like Islam can be something of a problem as well, but they have caused nowhere near as much suffering as the west therefore it is preferable if they take over the dominant role that the west currently holds.
Years of being oppressed, see National Liberation
>Nobody gets on Sup Forums to argue Marxism 101. Clearly neither do you, considering that you gave 0 arguments
Jose Brooks
You are blatantly anti white and will be resisted on those grounds alone. Just so you know.
Julian Hill
I'm not here to argue about communism. I'm here to point out how incredibly sad you are, which clearly struck a nerve.
Camden Smith
Why does oppression make them exempt from what you consider to be better? If you consider religion and traditions to be inherently negative, then why would you exempt one group from a purging of those values because they have been oppressed?
Jayden Bailey
>they have caused nowhere near as much suffering as the west Doesnt Islam still hold black people as slaves to this very day? Also Communism is responsible for more deaths than both world wars combined
pretty sure youre talking straight out of your ass, mate. Either that or just trolling. If trolling then great banter
Noah Thomas
because there are still people who call themselves american
Dylan Lopez
Morality isn't subjective. Apprehend the true forms underlying reality and then talk to me, kid.
Parker Bell
>You are blatantly anti white I can't be "anti-white" if I don't believe in race
Not really, i've be right about everything in this thread so far
They have been responsible for far less negative things. Islam didn't colonize half of the world or commit countless genocides. The extent of it's cruelty is some sexist and homophobia, which is terrible. But nowhere near the scale of the west.
>Also Communism is responsible for more deaths than both world wars combined Been debunked thoroughly >If trolling then great banter thanks
You sound like a fascist.
Daniel Diaz
Le new age pseudo spirititualist man
Asher Kelly
>hat means she can enjoy herself with as many partners as she wants without a care for marriage or faithfulness you're a cuck lel >The culture of white people has killed and enslaved millions. so have all the other cultures and races your point? because white people were better at it? shit arguments >Years of being oppressed, see National Liberation yeah like Islam or communism never oppressed anybody >Clearly neither do you, considering that you gave 0 arguments
you are arguing against Human Nature therefore you are anti-human, your utopia dream will never ever work
Alexander Anderson
>Been debunked thoroughly FYI it would be wonderful if you cited any sort of source because simple math says it hasnt been debunked at all.
I see youre on a shitposting spree here with all this, what do you even call it? anti-west trolling? either way, have fun and enjoy counting your (You)´s
Matthew Sanchez
You went from the plausible deniability of being the devil's advocate (because we both know you're wrong) to flat-out trolling in two replies.
Lurk moar.
Isaac Anderson
"Violence" in the case of Krishnamurti though, i believe is more an agitation of the mind. Not necessarily physical violence. He is stating that it prevents confusion in the mind and psyche of the person not allowing them to see truth.
Jayden Hernandez
>diphshit AnCom doesn't realize that abstinence until lifelong monogamy is the most efficient and productive form of familial organization. >wants to shout "pseudo-science" and muh freedumbs.