What does Sup Forums think of Public Schooling?

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very little of it since safe schools got put in

you think i could handle my son coming back from grade 3 and saying he was a woman? i'm only defending them

Does public schooling even work? Would you say niggers in public school are even being educated?

JOHN GWEEEEEEEEEN

public school is mandatory government propaganda, nothing more.

The usual argument is that public schooling is beneficial for the social aspects.
Not really saying much there...but a lot of parents aren't able to do differently, for whatever reason.
Which is good for my kids.
My job is to see that they have every advantage possible.

Stupid fallacy. You can have private schools.

also
>bunch of kids drop out of school, especially blacks and mestizos
>public school doesn't make you not stupid

John Green is a man who was originally rejected by his now wife when he asked her out, then years later when he got "less awkward" and by PURE COINCIDENCE became a best selling writer, she chose to marry him. Makes you think doesn't it?

3rd world quality desu

Implying schools have any effect on intelligence.

And the alternative is?

Allowing Jamal Jr. and La'Quisha to learn math from dealing crack? At least with public schooling there is a chance they might be able to read the cooking instructions at a McDonald's or something.

school =/= educated

I prefer public shootings, which is what I initially saw that as.

All good teachers are men anyway. Think about it. Did you ever have a female teacher whom you really learned anything from?

Education is one of the most important things in a country with a democratic vote.
While I have a lot of more libertarian beliefs, I strongly believe in public education.
Which is why we need to take it back from the shitty position it's now in, and make it good.

Yea yea, let the goberment brainwash everyday our beloved children.

I kinda agree with this smug liberal asshole. If it's a racially pure and homogeneous society that share central beliefs and values, paying taxes that go to educating the population as a whole is a good idea.

But this isn't the case for any country anymore...

I have.

And the lession was: never trust a woman.

Public school is literally mass brainwashing. Nothing more.

They're so great, they informed me about this world and how the system is broken.

Let me explain why I like to pay taxes for welfare even though I'm not personally poor.

I don't like living in a country with a bunch of poor people.

Kids should be working, not wasting their time in school. Dedicate your life to a trade instead of being a generalist. This is why modern society is so terrible. No one knows anything.

>went to a shitty public school
>easy as shit
>took the SAT
>easy as shit
>get into stanford
>hard as shit
>drop out, go to UCLA instead
public schools aren't all bad, but are they the best? not really.
private schools aren't much better.

Look up the difference in birth rates among women that have access to 6th grade education. That's a pretty basic level of education and even that has a significant impact on a person's agency in the world. Providing greater access to educational resources around the world should promote stability everywhere in basically any circumstance. It should be higher quality and better paid in America, we're a resource rich country and there's a strong correlation between education and quality of life/economic productivity per capita.

Privatize it

muh edumacator

You guys are edgy af. While there are more liberals than conservatives involved in public education, anyone who chose education as their career are too retarded to be effective brain washers.

K-12 is more of a daycare than anything else. M-muh govt agenda boogeymun

>Implying that they wont use their learned techniques to deal crack anyway

We are just teatching and feeding our criminals into being better at stealing desu

>I don't like living in a country with a bunch of stupid people
>supports public education

College doesn't make people less dumb. Before we subsidized it, less dumb people went to college. People think that college fixes stupid but back when colleges used to reject applicants for being dumb, they would do something else. Now they're liberal arts

>I don't like dumb kids
>I want the government educating kids
The epitome of useful idiot

If that's the goal we should spend a whole lot less money on it. We spend tremendous money, have many mandates and special expenses, to provide school for the least able with the lowest potential upside.

As opposed to what, you knuckle draggers? How else would you educate ~75M kids every year?

I'd wager many of them are gen Z'ers actually. Sup Forums is, or was, a home for disillusioned millennials who fell through the cracks of a system which is actively screwing them over. This new wave of trump supporters seems too naive to have any of that kind of experience or resentment. They just blindly follow the "god emperor".

Reminder that public education needs to be abolished

If we are spending vast sums to promote their self esteem, teach them no useful skills and have them all expecting to go to kolledge, where they'll consume a lot of grants or loans they won't pay back while being unable to complete any of the useful majors because they're way too hard for them, we're doing it wrong.

We should make vocational ed. available, and track quite a few of the students into it in a mandatory way.

Is that cereal pussy?

Repetition from authority figures is the most simple form of brainwashing. Done over a period of a decade, it is extremely effective.

>I'd wager many of them are gen Z'ers actually.
>Sup Forums is, or was, a home for disillusioned millennials who fell through the cracks of a system which is actively screwing them over

Even a broken clock is right two times per day (((you)))

For gifted kids especially, homeschooling seems superior to elementary school. But by high school, if the school is decent (probably just to meet state standards) the teachers are specialists in the subjects they teach, and there are resources like science labs you could not replicate at home reasonably. So I've advocated homeschooling for elementary, maybe for middle, but going to the local high school and taking the hardest courses there.

If you're so great, you can finish early. But get some formal exposure in the high school.

there are no cooking instruction in mcdeez

>Look up the difference in birth rates among women that have access to 6th grade education.

So we want to ban it, right?

desu this, such thing as female professors should not exist when it comes to higher education

Remarkable results from the one room schoolhouses. Was it really that great? Most astonishing is the results reported for African Americans.

Are we sure they're not lying or misrepresenting there?

By now NY is one of the better school systems, because from back in the 1800's we put in Regents exit exams and still have them. You can't be a moron and get a HS diploma here.

yup private schools still have to follow state's curriculum

I think they mostly worked in America, in Britain they were notoriously poor.

Bullshit. Low-IQ shitskins save him the bother of cooking his own food and cleaning his own toilet. He ADORES living with stupid people. They're no threat to him. High-IQ white people are.

If he hated living in a country full of stupid people he'd be calling for rock-solid border security and forcible removal of shitskins.

John Green attended a $55,000/year boarding school -- he's successful because that high priced education groomed him. Had he attended Bumfuck Nowhere Public High School where people only care about football fridays he'd be a nerd working at Best Buy geek squad

Private schools seem more tied to social agendas than public schools. I suppose it's because not only do they also have to follow state mandates, but they are run by governors, vs. a local school being run somewhat by the elected school board of local people.

And local people try to reject the SJW agendas much more than "educational professionals" would.

On top of it, to pay all the $$ extra for private school doesn't seem worth it. Suck up all the education available in the public system, then start paying if there's something you can't get there.

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How the world works, kiddo. Even F Scott Fitzgerald was rejected by his crush at Princeton...once he got a book deal he called her up and then they got married. Fine pieces of ass want a provider, not some loser bum

>Charles Murray is on Sup Forums

Private schools get subsidies from gouv. here so ofcourse they would join the "progressive" train

I don't know about private boarding schools because I never attended them, but I did attend private universities undergrad and graduate. And there was no magic to it, still a teacher, a classroom, exams etc.

My young cousin who isn't all that smart just finished high school in 3 years, then went away to college. Surprised the fuck out of me. I think it's really easy to do now with online courses & APs & dual enrollment

Word, far too many kids just churning remedial courses at open-door colleges until they fail out or max out loans. Less than 100 colleges in the country have any real admissions standards -- the rest let in anyone with a pulse

>As opposed to what, you knuckle draggers?
>How else would you educate ~75M kids every year?
Public education has been shown to be the least effective method of educating the young
Therefore, his assertion that public school is needed in order to not have stupid ppl, is erroneous.
Also, many developing nations lack public schooling, this to me implies Mr. Green is a damn dirty xenophobic racist, for shame

>too retarded to be effective brain washers.
source that you have to be smart to be an effective brainwasher

But easy admission doesn't mean easy graduation. Leonard Susskind, the theoretical physicist, started at CCNY -- granted it was better then than CUNY is now. But education doesn't have to be expensive or exclusive to be effective.

Community colleges have a horribly low graduation rate because of the trash students that start there. But some good ones start too. It's OK to give people a chance and let them try.

But we could move that decision point earlier too, and steer many kids into vocational.

Also the problem is the loans. There's no reason to be putting these people in debt chasing ... what?

Our local community college has started letting kids spend their financial aid, including loans. for food. Yeah they need to eat, but is it right for them to use education money for it? If they were apprentices they would be getting paid and could buy their own food properly.

There's literally nothing different. Nothing at all.

John Green has connections and can write swill. That's it.

Where can I find the study the DoD did in 1941? I tried googling and nothing with literacy comes up.

It's called DEMOCRACY!!
fucking idiot

>be substitute teacher for a little while
>see firsthand how fucked things are in a "good" district for most students

for the bottom 85% of public school students, school is just babysitting while mom and dad work. the top 15% or so already know what they're doing and are on autopilot until graduation, most of them could do self-directed study and be fine

a HUGE problem are the bottom 10% of students that have behavioral problems and are generally antagonistic and disruptive, one of those in a class can ruin everything, they need to be shot for the betterment of everyone else

What are the odds he's going to get caught banging one of his fans?

Is that Jason Mewes?

My Japanese professors were among my best experiences in college. They were my favorite classes and I learned a shit ton of Japanese from them.

I really did learn more from the males in my biochemistry major though.

READ JOHN TAYLOR GATTO
IF YOU DON'T HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN YOU LITERALLY HATE THEM
HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN

he went to public school, he doesn't know what you mean.

Good idea, but was too easy to infiltrate and corrupt, and basically gave the government control of all knowledge and opinions.

Homeschooling being the standard before required public schooling was an important part of keeping tradition and family values alive.

Nice meme. Subtle. I like it.

If you don't like living with stupid people you would cease non-white immigration into your country

Deporting all muds would instantly increase the collective American IQ by 10 points

>he thinks (((school))) stops people from being stupid

They are top tier brainwashing facilities
>he lets his kids get taught by this

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WE CALL IT THE REMINDER BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT REMAINS

we wuz kangz

>country has public education
>"I like to pay taxes for schools because I don't want to live in a country with a bunch of stupid people"
>majority of the population is still composed of idiots

Might be something in the water.

They can work great if they are homogenous, both ethnically, culturally and economically. Otherwise they might be marxist multiculti nightmares of total disorder.

At least private schools tend to homogenize the economic part.

public tax funded schools shouldn't be allowed to have opinions and push agendas as much as they do and can if at all, other than that they serve a good purpose

Its good in theory but federal busybodies and a coalition of freaks turn it into a weird pozzed daycare more than anything.

Public schools are absolute garbage. Last week I got permanently suspended from my school. I was in my seventh year of high school. Because I'm turning 21 this school year I had to sign a contract saying that I would never be late to any classes and my grades all had to be passing at all times. A few days ago I was late to class and the teacher started yelling at me. I was late because my previous class was gym and I forgot my locker combination. I tried to explain to him why I was late but he wouldn't listen to me. He said he was going to report me to the principal. I got pissed off and knocked a stack of papers and books off his desk and told him to go fuck himself. When I got home the school called and said I am not allowed back anymore. Public schooling in America doesn't work. All it teaches you is to be a mindless slave.

>I was in my seventh year of high school.
What the fuck is your problem man?

Top kek that commercial is so fucking bad.

I learned to love the smell and ample breasts of Mrs. Pheiffer in the 2nd grade.

t. parochial school student

It's ok mang

my boi lafonte just went to an adult school and got his ged mang

u can still be sucksessfull

I passed ninth grade no problems
I failed tenth grade once because of failing grades and I didn't feel like summer school
I barely passed eleventh
I failed senior year the first time because of bad grades and coming in late
I failed senior year the second time because I got suspened in march for breaking into a vending machine, and shoving a kid through a glass window. I was suspended for the rest of the year but they told me that I could still graduate if I sent in my work online. I didn't do any of the work because I didn't feel like it.
I just got suspended a few days ago from my seventh year for cursing out a teacher and knocking over his papers. this time i'm not allowed back

my parents are all angry with me now. I told them that this was the year that I would finally graduate. Pretty much everyone in my family is a college graduate so they all look at me like a failure.

>suspen*D*ed in march for breaking into a vending machine
Was this during a fire drill in Pennsylvania? If so then fuck you Brand.

jewish indoctrination centers

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I'm not Brand but I do live in Pennsylvania. Someone in class told me that they put money in but didn't get anything. He asked if I could try to help. After a few minutes I got mad and ran and kicked it. The vending machine is right outside the administration offices and they all came out hen they heard the glass breaking. I ran past the hall monitors and got in my car and sped away. I got a phone call saying they knew it was me and that I was suspended for a month.

>jewish indoctrination centers
This

>no more department of education
>schools now compete for existence
>"we would live in a country with a bunch of stupid people" if everyone had gone to better more competitive schools
I shggydggy at this statist cuck

People are generally stupid. Public schools don't solve this issue. It's better if we just accept that people generally are dumb instead of locking up kids in school hours everyday trying to drill a broad range of subjects into their heads.

Isn't there a negative correlation between money spent and student grades?

Here's how public school works.
You sit a bunch of kids in a classroom and force them to memorize data so they can be tested whether or not they have retained said data. If you retain a bit of that data to standard you get to move on to the next set of data.
There is no actual teaching of skills or knowledge that can be retained for long term usage.
Just testing to see if your little ass remembers just enough to satisfy a standard.
Now when you factor in that most of the children stuck into these classes are not on the same intellectual level or require different processes to retain data you end up with kids who fall short of the standard and lose the will to memorize data.
They soon turn into students who resent the process and rebel thus become stupid fucking idiots.
Public schools and some "private" schools that still use public school curriculum do not take this shit into account. So in the long run you have millions of kids across the US who struggle to pass the standard or end up getting pushed by because dedicating time and effort to them is too much of a hassle.
Then the other side is smart kids being mixed with the slow learners and suffering as well.
Because they're labeled as "smart" they don't get their needs met either.
Public school force this cookie cutter learning process on all the kids and waste money with "dem programs" that don't fucking work.
If they were doing like South Korea or Japan does and evaluate kids before they ever enter kindergarten to know how to teach them, you wouldn't have as many ignorant fucks.
It's just a fucking shit show and no amount of taxing is going to fix the issue.
Most people don't learn the same way and some people aren't that intelligent.

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Close, there's no correlation. Negative would imply that more money spent lowers their grades

Liberal faggots control public schools, and numbers go down while they push their Marxist horseshit. Many of those kids become stupid adults on assistance. John Green is a top-tier faggot, and any kid taking care of general ed credits is likely to be exposed to his brand of faggot leaf nonsense.