POL CHRISTIAN THREAD

I HAVE RECREATED THE CHANNEL DEDICATED FOR CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHANTS AND GREGORIAN MUSIC
SOME OF THEM ARE FROM CRUSADER ERA CHECK IT OUT
youtube has taken it down before because of "inappropriate and offensive content" while it had only CHRISTIAN MUSIC
recreated
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some of the chants in the channel are not available online
and the thing that is for sure those that are SUBTITLED AND TRANSLATED ARE THE ONLY ONES ON YOUTUBE FOR SURE because I had to read a shitload of from the new testament to find the right subtitles

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Ha like anyone wants to hear your crypto kike bullshit "jesus", we all know the reptellians are running the world, and there is no way to rid of them. We are doomed

whats bothering you son

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization

But Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven; this is also why more modern christians like Martin Luther said (I quote):

- "it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.

Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

> inb4 Turning the other cheek does not mean pacifism. Slapping someone's face with the back of your hand was an insult for a very long time.

no it wasn't. that shit was made up by radical black-nationalist liberal theologist Walter Wink to justify social rebellion in South Africa.

There are NO sources to it outside his books, nothing of what Josephus wrote about life in the ancient Middle East mentions anything close to offering the cheek or giving to your enemies your coat being an insult

Question for Sup Forums "christians"

How would you prove to the Pope or any mainstream christian that "do not resist evil" is out of context?

The context of the story is how christians should behave the opposite of gentiles, who love their friends and families, and hate their enemies

The larger context is a Gospel where all the main figures mentioned allowed their enemies to kill them without slaying them back: Jesus, Peter, Paul

What is true context of the paragraph?

How do you turn "Do not resist evil" into "FUCK OFF MUSLIMS!"?

Jews are a very successful group that has become successful by monopolising finances through ethnic networking and promoting ideologies that demonize their own actions so that the goyim won't copy their success

so they promote anti-nationalistic Communism among the goyim while endorsing Zionism for themselves

that is why they promoted universalist Christianity among the goyim while keeping Judaism for themselves, and including it as the Old Testament within Christianity, so that they would remain the most important people of the world.

So there is no real contradiction once you understand how Jews work: Do as I say (Christianity), not as I do (Judaism, Old Testament).

then christians wonder why Jews dominate them!

I'd wager many of them are gen Z'ers actually. Sup Forums is, or was, a home for disillusioned millennials who fell through the cracks of a system which is actively screwing them over. This new wave of trump supporters seems too naive to have any of that kind of experience or resentment. They just blindly follow the "god emperor".

If Christianity is a religion of earthly power, why didn't it save the Western Roman Empire then? Why did Saint Augustine wrote that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?

Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?

Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?

That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying

and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?

why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?

The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches actively cucking for the destruction of the West

The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!

Literally all the followers of Jesus, and Jesus himself were kikes.

Among his followers there were many zealots, the most radical jews of them all, that wanted wars against Rome
But sure, he was "le anti-semite non-kike that kikes hated" right?

Now you are going to talk about how he disagreed with pharisees or whatever.

But why would the pharisees be discussing mosaic law with a non-jew? Never mind, what exactly did he denounce the pharisees for that makes him not a kike? Have you actually read the Gospel?

Can you point to a single value that Jesus denounced that wasn't valid?

Because the denounciations of Jesus were idiotic, insane, even marxist

There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to punish a slut! (Jesus didnt like slut shaming, quite liberal if you ask me!)
There he denounces the rich pharisees and promises the earth to the meek and the poor! (... and marxist)
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to live, instead of embracing death like him!
There he denounces them over a disagreement on how Mosaic Law is applied! (but Jesus was not a Jew I swear!!!)

You blindly may say "he disagreed with the kikes" as if that was something we needed to applaud!

Muslims are hated by Jews as well, but Jews are smart enough to use them as a tool. The same way they use the insane anti-morality of Christianity to corrupt the ancient world and give themselves a privileged financial spot!

But if Jews don't like the own poison they created, that means that we shall drink it, according to you!

wtf I guess I love ISIS now!

Die with your rage

> le Christianity made the west meme

absolute insane nonsense

western law system are based off Roman Law, which existed before Christianity existed

western languages are based on indoeuropean languages, Malta is the only western country with semitic languages root

Most of the religious symbolism of the West is pagan as well, christian trees, easter, etc

Given that the French Revolution, an openly secularizing movement that blazed across Europe like a storm, precedes 1968 by almost 200 years, I would say that it is you that has a very bad gasp on history

heck, the american constitution of 1789 does not even mention Jesus anywhere, and has the separation of state and church as one of its most explicit declarations

the founding fathers and most of western people for the last 1000 years have been deists. Whenever they tried to take Jesus seriously, things went wrong very fast.

simple
by not denying the messiah
anything else is jewish

Stop posting in this thread.

Paul was anti-natalist, as things like wife and family would get in the way of getting people to worship his jewish god

> 8 Now to the unmarried men and women, and for the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
> Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
> 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

That christianity is about "family values" is a meme. The main concern of every christian is the spread of this virus-like cult at the expense of their own tribe

> "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't become my follower me"- Jesus

the organic self-sustaining self-interested self-preserving society that Sup Forums wants is fundamentally incompatible with the "do not save for tomorrow, leave your family and spread my cult" dogma that both Jesus and Paul saw as the main duty of a christian

- there is no "white genocide", what is really going is white suicide, with christian morality as its main driver

the abortion issue is a perfect example of white christians openly fighting against their own interests by wanting to increase the birthrates of blacks and other democrat sub-groups that do abort
there are numerous other examples of how Christianity actively makes white self-sabotage, but this one is extremely obvious

Tell me: do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks? (The entire South would be deep blue for starters)

- That Jews took control of european finances and loaning and then global finances by proxy, is another example of how Christian Morality screws whites over
If the Churches had not been issuing numerous bans on white christians from practising usury (which is simply a way of saying "high risk financing"), jews would have never taken over that niche market
far from destroyin them, Christianity made Jews the masters of Europe. The occasional progrom more than paid for itself


- Support for Israel is a third way Christian Morality screws whites over, and it is far from a recent occurance. As early as 1600s, puritans already believed that a jewish Israel in the middle east was a prerequisite for the Apocalypse

- Christianity does not allow for racial divisions among Christians either "there is no jew or greek" makes it quite clear. Citing Paul made extremely easy for the anti-segregation preachers of the 60s to get the majority of whites on their side

>whats bothering me
Nothing, i have already complied with my destiny, there is no way to get out of their shackles, anywhere you'll look you'll see those reptellians, looking at you with their yellow eyes and watching every step of you like a cattle

> muh synagogue of Satan

John 8 provides no way or form to know who these "fake jews" are, as everything in the Gospel it is vague and contradictory

So you randomly have decided that the synagogue of Satan is the modern Jews, as if that would change anything at all

Jesus himself said that the world is of Satan, and he made it quite clear that the only way to oppose "Satan" is by opposing the World. Which is INSANE if your main concerns are the survival of a WORLDY civilization into the far future. A concern that Christianity makes completely pointless

Why are you even here? You have no skin on this game. According to you, the Jewish War God will WIN no matter what and slay your enemies

There is nothing on the line for Christians

They gave up on this Universe

Europe being Islamic or not is completely IRRELEVANT for a christians that believes in the plan of God

The plan which promised that God would come back after 1000 years of oppression and persecution of his followers

A christians wanting to oppose the oppression of his people is going against God's plan

FUK
YOU
DEMIURGE

the demiurge did nothing wrong

Defeatist and a shill

Pretty impressive work user.

Fuck off kike

Hah, oh belive me, when they will mark you wouldnt know better...

GNOSTICISM.

THE TRUTH.

>talking about defeatism
nuke yourself

lol no

they were sjws

>Christianity

>this is what gnostics believe (not knowing the teachings of plato about the demiurge)

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That's some music i can really sack the Constantinopole to!

fuck off kike
you filthy kikes worship a jew god and as such, you are not welcome here

Is this thread a continuation of this one?

Daily reminder Christians worship a Jewish shitskin

Yes

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>jehowa's witness
You race denying, pacifist faggots all belong in ovens.

40 day fast user from earlier, if anyone has any other questions feel free to ask, just lurking this thread a while

most of those claims are ahistorical, if not outright schizophrenic

> Agape does not mean Agape but though love"

false btw, Agape never has conveyed any sort of "tough love" implication

even among christian writers it means " a selfless love that is passionately committed to the well-being of others", no implication of tough love whatsoever

see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape#Christianity

> thus being meek does not being being meek and we can actually ignore 'Do Not Resist', and we can actually kill our enemies

that is where the schizophrenia of right-wing christians kicks in


In the Greek-Roman world, love meant "common feeling of mutual interest born out of shared experiences"

Early Christians expanded it to a commandment of loving people that we don't know, that we don't care about, just so that we can fill ourselves with misguided pride about how we are friends of mankind itself

and then come right-wing christians to twist tthe meaning even more

so here they want us to believe that the Crusaders loved every single damn person that they slaughtered in Constantinople

Because, according to Sup Forums christians, Love is not about shared interest, it is about telling to yourself "how I love that guy" right before cutting his head off

dude, if you wanna hate your enemies, just do that, and stop mentally masturbating about how better and so much more heaven-deserving you are than your enemies because you somehow declared that you loved him while killing him

christian semantics are enough of a mess as they are, and then Sup Forums christians wanna add an extra layer of absurdity and mental masturbation

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Only a christian could claim something as absurd as love for his enemies

Only a right-wing christian could take that absurdity to the next level by killing his enemies while declaring his love for them

>what is really going is white suicide, with christian morality as its main driver
Then why don't you pick up a gun and go around killing people?

Because you know deep down that you're not supposed to, and if you do, you will be brutally killed.

Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Maybe you will search for truth before it's too late, or maybe you'll go around killing people and regret it. All these antifa troublemakers and BLM terrorists are chimping out thinking their victory is in sight. They don't understand. Don't be one of them.

Galilee was a goy town. Kike is a jew who hates jesus. Silly cunt

that liberals agree with Christianity is very easy to prove: they always attack the poor christian understanding of Science, but NEVER the morality of it

That is how liberals are so successful at portraying republicans as hypocrites for believing in a republican Jesus that loved guns and loved the rich and wanted lower taxes

if only Christianity was only about believing the Earth is 6000 years old!!

the main problem is that christians believe that a Jewish War God will destroy the Earth to save the people that "mentally talked to him in the correct way" whatever the FUCK that means, and then bring them to an utopia where they will worship him every damn second of eternity

who the fuck would want to live in such a jewish dimension of eternal servitude is beyond me. Even death and vanishing forever sounds like a superior option.

youtube.com/channel/UCrcrDXK620kopfSffPxrdTA

youtube.com/user/AominOrg

youtube.com/user/DrOakley1689

Good channels, hopefully they help people.

youtube.com/watch?v=97k4z6Qe7JM&t=18s

A true Gospel presentation. Hopefully those who haven't heard watch, and those who have can share this.

Please stop calling the pope Christian.

who said anything about gunning people down?

I mentioned 4 specific waves christian morality sabotages whites: anti-abortionism, condemnation of high-risk investment as usury, Israel-first politics as a product of a deep wish for the Apocalypse and the destruction of the world, and little concern for race dynamics

Why don't you print screen these as a pic instead of filling up the threads. It would be easier for you and everyone else if you captured this all on a pic instead.

Who is a real christian? Someone who says "hate your enemies and don't lend them anything", "my kingdom is of this world", "save treasures for tomorrow for this world where we live is the real deal"?

Oh, right. Only your super unique Traditional Neo-Baptist Church of Our Lord and Savior In South Arizona of the First Founding 1967 in Nebraska is the actual christianity.

>(((desert LOTR)))
No thanks.

I want people to actively quote me back and debate any point they may disagree with

It would be annoying to be in jail.

You are talking to a dude who knocks on people's doors to give them pamphlets about how race isn't real and tyrannosaurus was a plant-eater.

> le Jesus wanted us to use swords against their enemies meme xDDD

Jesus stopped his followers from actually using any sword to attack their enemies, and reprimanded them for misunderstanding. When Peter realized that he would go "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom is not of this world" and denied him 3 times.

You may notice that Jesus made two sword references: the second sword reference was very explicit about what would be the target of the christian sword: Jesus didn't promise war against your enemies (that would contradict everything Jesus had said up to this point).

He promised war against your own damn family: "I do not come to bring peace, but to set a man against his own household"

Which is exactly that historically happened, Christians were extremely successful at killing each other and killing white pagans, all while completely failing to recover their Holy Lands from Muslims.

The sack of Constantinople by Christians and the Wars of Reformation between Catholics and Protestants weakened Europe so much that Muslims would occupy the balkans for 500 years,

All of this comes from the fact that Christianity is an inversion of reality, and the only way to claim otherwise is to actively ignore everything Jesus said except 3 or 4 quotes entirely removed from their follow-up verses or any context whatsoever.

You really believe that Paul was supposed to slaughter the Romans and create a crusader state of This World?? That all those christian martyrs got their own damn cult wrong?

ITT: Extremely deluded people that wanna follow the commands of a Jew that promised to make their families divide and even asked them to hate themselves and their own families (!!!!) so that they may perhaps-- have a slight chance of worshiping a Jewish War God for the rest of eternity

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show your country of origin, false flagger

Theeeey can do that on a picture as well. Spamming the forum isn't going to help you. It will only create opposers. Just make pics like pic related and let people approach you instead.

If you're the same person I've dealt with there's no point in debating because you won't admit you're wrong on many points.

Pic related, do that and save thread post and time.

>christian morality sabotages whites: anti-abortionism, condemnation of high-risk investment as usury, Israel-first politics as a product of a deep wish for the Apocalypse and the destruction of the world, and little concern for race dynamics
The problem with your argument is generalization. I'm pro-choice, yet most Christians think I'm heretical. So what? I can point to lots of scripture regarding killing wicked people and their offspring. I wouldn't support cucks raising rapist's children.

Usury isn't good, though. Why would you want to defend it? I'm pro-capitalist, though. Communism doesn't work unless it's biblical--sharing whatever people need. It doesn't happen on the Earth currently in any major way, that's what heaven is like. People eating when they don't have money because they don't need money because it's fulfilling to help people in need.. Rich people are entitled to their money and to choose what to do with it. But in reality if they are selfish it's detrimental to their soul. Don't tell me you support walking past homeless people in the street.

Israel-first is deception, the very word Israel confuses 99% of people it seems, it has been used in confusion to obfuscate truth. Israel is the name of a person and also their 12 offspring tribes as a collection of people chosen by God. This word is now used as a gepolitical entity of people who are not biblical. The word "Jew" and "chosen people" are thrown around which causes strife. It's not my fault you don't have the requisite understanding of correct history.

Race mixing is just blue pill. Like I said most Christians aren't exposed to ethnicity stuff, they are just lied to like everyone else in the mainstream media. You get called a nazi or heretic for caring about your people.

> complains about my memeflag while using a memeflag

wew

>catholics

>JW
Shit you can't even do Christianity right

t. Pastor Jim

> Theeeey can do that on a picture as well.

they fucking can't

how the fuck does someone copypaste a specific phrase they wanna discuss from an image?

they fucking can't

Good, keep shilling for the koran-kisser

I think I"ve dealt with either of you before.

That's because you, and Sup Forums, don't understand the true agenda of TRUE Christianity.

>INB4 NO TRU SCOTSMAN

You see this is the enemies of Christianity.

>(Ephesians 6:12) because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.

Christians are not actually at war with other humans, other races, other political parties, other religions. They are directly at war with demons and Satan. Not men.

Sup Forums is making the same mistake that the early ancient Israelites made about the Messiah. They wanted a nationalistic, political Messiah. A Messiah that would be King on Earth and bring revolution to the Roman Empire. A Messiah that would rule Earth Israel and a Jewish Regime. That was a huge mistake.

Sup Forums has made the same mistake. They want a nazi Jesus that is coming to rescue the white race. This is also a huge mistake on their part. Jesus is not going to "fix" any white country. He isn't going to purify any white nor western world.
What you call White Countries or The West is just as bad to Jesus as all Islamic Countries and all Communist Countries.

WHY?

CONTINUED

>trying to argue with a jehovah
Let it go m8, their cult brainwashes people beyond any semblance of reason.

See

Jesus isn't planning on creating revolution to any white country nor western world. Why?

Jesus said:

>(John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”

>(John 17:14)... because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.

Jesus was no part of this world nor its political dealings. Why?

>1 John 5:19 - 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

>(2 Corinthians 4:4) among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

>Luke 4:5-7 - 5 So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time; 6 and the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”

>John 16:10,11 - 10 then concerning righteousness, because I am going to the Father and YOU will behold me no longer; 11 then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.

>John 14:29, 30 - 29 So now I have told YOU before it occurs, in order that, when it does occur, YOU may believe. 30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,

According to Jesus up above the devil rules the world. Not God. The Jews, is just one finger in the entire demonic system. The Jesuits, the Political Occultist, the political pedophiles, the bankers, the educationers all belong to Satan.

>denies the messiah yet pretends he isnt a kike
wew

> yet most Christians think I'm heretical

this is an even greater point that can't be ignored

as soon as christians get rid of atheists, pagans and heretics they will be back to killing each other over what the insane kike Jesus actually said or not

Jesus promised that he would break families apart and that is exactly what his absurd declarations of war against nature do

beyond that

- why isn't usury good? jews became fucking rich because of that. There is nothing wrong with getting high pay-offs for risky investments

- why would race mixing be a blue-pill from a christian POV? Paul made it quite clear that he expected christians to come together as one, he was practically creating a new tribe out of many, thus the "there is no jew or greek" bit that is so quoted by modern christians to support race-mixing

We agree on this topic, I don't see why you disagree with me

I said that Christianity leads to helpless paralysis and you seem to agree by declaring that christians should not even try to engage in politics

now tell me, why would the jews shill for a religion that calls them out on their BS

What you AND THEY are not aware of is that they are not Christians and never were. As you can see Jesus attitude up above Christians are no part of the world. They are bystanders LIVING in the world but NO PART OF IT. Any Christian that touches politics constitutes himself an enemy of God because all politics belongs to Satan.

The push of refugees by "Christians" is actually done on behalf of political ideology and to spite nationalist. Those people are automatic enemies of God now.

You guys are not opposing Christians and never were. You are opposing imbeciles WHO THINK they are Christians but are not. You're wasting your time. They are not pushing refugees because they love them they are pushing refugees because they hate you. Their motivation is hatred towards nationalist, not love of their neighbor. Same as how Leftist and Feminist push Islam KNOWING Islam is the very thing they were warring against from the beginning. They hate conservatives more than they hate oppression itself. They would gladly destroy themselves if it spites you. That's the problem.

>Pastor Jim
I'm not a pastor lol.

>Who is a real christian? Someone who says "hate your enemies and don't lend them anything", "my kingdom is of this world", "save treasures for tomorrow for this world where we live is the real deal"?

God has a will, and the people who do it are rewarded.

Here's the thing about 'loving' your enemies. If they want to kill you, and you offer them something like shelter or whatever, you're glorifying God by living out His will for everyone to live a godly life. God has the power to protect you or allow you to be killed, but the person who oppresses you will regret it.

How are you supposed to love someone who wants you dead? How am I supposed to love antifa? There are certain critera including treating them as I would want them to treat me, otherwise known as the golden rule. You can also pray that they come away from that garbage to come to the knowledge of God. You can also try to give them the truth and educate them.

If you go killing them, you elevate yourself to judge in the sight of God (which is not His will), and you take away any chance of them coming to the truth. Whatever judgement or sentence you hand out, the same severity will be given to you when you are judged.

Also, let's say you have $100, and you're quite poor. You've been given knowledge of God (knowledge, not belief) and you're walking down the street and see some really poor person with nothing. If you gave to that person, God would see it and reward you like 100x whatever you gave, if you gave everything you'd be overwhelmed to see the riches you would have. And let's say you saw some rich "rabbi" walk past and later found out he was a millionaire who shilled on Sup Forums and also was claiming welfare and hacking in to businesses to get inside investment tips. Do you think that person is living a fulfilled life? Or will be pleasing to God?

Spiritual things cannot be discerned by worldly minds.

By the same rule, any effort to sink the refugee boats or support anti-immigration parties is anti-christian, exactly that the Pope has been saying all along

We completely agree that Christianity means political paralysis

Can someone please convince me why I should believe in God?
I used to be heavy into faith, but I don't know if I still believe in him. I want some sort of concrete-ish proof that isn't "you just know". I genuinely want to believe again but I cant

> but the person who oppresses you will regret it.

there we go

if I get killed after helping my enemy, it does not matter because a jewish war god MAY PERHAPS send him to an infinitely punishment in a HELLISH PLACE for which actual evidence does not exist

Christianity demands you take absurd risks for absolutely no gain, which is exactly what Europe is going with all those darned muslims


> Spiritual things cannot be discerned by worldly minds.

Spiritual things is a codeword for mental masturbation

whatever metaphysical rewards you think you are getting are completely meaningless

Judging by some of the responses you're triggering some people. Were all those Hollywood films about demons and the power of Christ actually right all along?

First off, do yourself a favor and stop insulting God. Please just use logical arguments without insults. I won't discuss anything further with you if you insist on insulting my king.

Yes, Christians are going to betray each other. I don't think I even know how to prepare for that except to surrender it to God so that He can give me final words to say. Or maybe if I can keep patience and faith to stay alive at the rapture.

I'm not going to abandon things that I know to be true just to appeal to an atheist so they wouldn't be tempted to kill me.

>Paul made it quite clear that he expected christians to come together as one
The problem with this is that we have eyes and brains and when you see ugly mixed kids you must question whether it comes from God or not, I think obviously not. Why can't Africans go to Africa?

Personally to address your next point I believe in Christian Identity/Israelism where I see both Jews and Greeks as 'white'. If Jews/Judah remained there, and 10 tribes traveled north west through Babylon and caucus mountains and settled in Europe, then the making whole of Israel would just mean joining Jews/Europeans as one. Kind of complicated to explain to someone ignorant of certain biblical things, but I don't recall seeing anyone say "Jews and Africans are the same".

Why don't white/black Christian couples make children that look nice? Why are they so ugly and unhealthy? Why do they have identity issues? Why do you see mixed race people in Antifa / BLM so much? Does that come from God? Really makes you (me) think.

Multiculturalism doesn't work, the world is garbage and getting worse. I think you're blaming the wrong people.

>the enemy is the people who hate Christ
Are you smart enough to figure this out yet?

As in the Jew god worshiped by Christians? I wouldn't, his descriptions in the bible makes it pretty clear he's a sociopath at best, downright evil at worst.

Ironically, breaking the law is itself against the Bible. God is against humans breaking laws of order like running stop signs, refusing to pay taxes, and creating any social disorder. We are expected to follow laws not break them.

Yes, those (((Christian))) NGO's are running illegal human trafficking by boating those refugees. The governments know that. Same as how here in the US the churches are hiding and supporting illegal immigrants. It is against the Bible to do that.

They are not doing that because of "love" they are doing that out of selfishness, moral superiority, and hatred of secular nationalist. I agree that right now the world NEEDS borders. That is the reality. However, those imbeciles don't want you nationalist to be right about anything. So they will destroy themselves to spite you.

>any effort to sink the refugee boats or support anti-immigration parties is anti-christian

As you can see Jesus opinion on meddling in political affairs that is a political issue. Sinking boats IS NOT A CHRISTIAN'S BUSINESS. That is none of our business. The moment a Christian has any opinion on these issues they shake hands with the devil.

You are not dealing with Christians. The Pope is not Christian. The Catholic Church, Orthodox, Protestants, Anglicans, Evengelicals, and Mormons are not Christians.

>(James 4:4) Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.

They are enemies of God. Identify them as however you want but be aware that you are not dealing with the true God in this.

Why can American Christians openly carry firearms to protect themselves but European Christians can't?

Does God not have the power to change laws? Why is there 2 different sets of laws?

I think you believe that man-made laws are special or should be followed for moral reasons, no matter how absurd they are.

Sending your children to school to be taught about transexual paedophile practices at the age of 5, for example or refusing to bake sodomite celebration cakes. God obviously did not implement these laws.

There is a great wrath to come on Jewish people for shitting the world up. That's not the fault of Christians.

Using concerns about uglyness and unhealthiness as arguments is just bizarre from a christian POV

the sermon of the mount presents a complete worldview where what our senses perceive as negative: poverty, wretchedness, illness, weakness, is what allows you to arrive to Heaven, while richness, happiness, strenght, are "woes" that will damn you to Hell

You are trying to fit a world-affirming framework into a world-denying one, so it is not accidental that you are well aware that other christians would see you as a heretic


If something was consistent about Jesus, it was declaring that everything gentiles and jews considered normal was actually rotten, and what was rotten was normal

thus love your enemies if you wanna be like me / hate your family to become my follower

thus those that wanna die will live / those that wanna live will die

thus the first is the last / the last is the first

> Sinking boats IS NOT A CHRISTIAN'S BUSINESS.

Again, that is my point.

Aurelius' mistake is that he assumes good and evil can be balanced like a scale
a doctor who saves a hundred lives and commits murder isn't commended for the hundred, but condemned for the one
a single blackening act undoes all good that man has done, and he will stay in a perpetual state of evil without accepting Christ as his sacrificial lamb

This thread just shows why sola scriptura leads to exactly what Nietzsche predicted. Non-Christians read the Bible and interpret it themselves, and come out with a pansy, weak-ass religion centered around slave morality. In the hands of the Church however, Christianity tempered the aggression of the pagans while retaining their good and noble qualities. It is disingenuous to say that Christianity is simultaneously weak and also a meanie conquering ideology, but this is Sup Forums, so you have no reason to argue in good faith. Your resentment and anger betray your lack of understanding, I'll pray for you user.

Do you actually believe that crap? Like, I know there are larpers on Sup Forums, but to actually believe that garbage...

>Using concerns about uglyness and unhealthiness as arguments is just bizarre from a christian POV
Like I said most Christians don't agree with me. It says clearly in the bible that whatever God created, it all brought forth fruit and seed of its own kind. An apple tree would always create apples and apple seeds. It wouldn't be mixed with a fig tree and make figgles.

Why do the people who hate Christ want an end to white people and Christians? Why does God's enemy pervert and corrupt everything? Why does it lie to people? Why has it convinced politicians that it's in their best interest to genocide whites/Christians? Why are people so blind that they are blaming God? God is allowing people to be punished, working all things together for the sake of His children only. Wicked people aren't getting a good end.

People really need to repent and worship God and look at what He wants. As far as I'm concerned, the muddying of my people is not in the best interests of anyone except His enemies, and in my understanding it doesn't come from God.

>the sermon of the mount presents a complete worldview where what our senses perceive as negative: poverty, wretchedness, illness, weakness
God hates it when people ignore the needy. The widows and fatherless, the poor and afflicted. People walking past homeless is not pleasing to Him. When He says the kingdom of heaven is theirs, it's because when they get there, they will have nice things, they won't even need money to eat or sleep. They will be taken care of properly unlike in this world where 1% own so much of the wealth, and the so-called Jews make up a large percentage of that 1%.

>it is not accidental that you are well aware that other christians would see you as a heretic
I got redpilled before being Christian. Most other Christians are just sheltered people trying to live according to their beliefs, but they are constantly bombarded with lies and propaganda just like everyone else.

to claim that it is only non-christians that read the slave morality within it is just disingenuous
Whatever Christians would not wish others to do to them, they do not to others. And they comfort their oppressors and make them their friends; they do good to their enemies…. Through love towards their oppressors, they persuade them to become Christians.
—The Apology of Aristides 15

A soldier of the civil authority must be taught not to kill men and to refuse to do so if he is commanded, and to refuse to take an oath. If he is unwilling to comply, he must be rejected for baptism. A military commander or civic magistrate must resign or be rejected. If a believer seeks to become a soldier, he must be rejected, for he has despised God.

—Hippolytus of Rome

How can a man be master of another's life, if he is not even master of his own? Hence he ought to be poor in spirit, and look at Him who for our sake became poor of His own will; let him consider that we are all equal by nature, and not exalt himself impertinently against his own race[...]

—Gregory of Nyssa, Homilies on the Beatitudes


next you will be declaring that "only christians that don't actually care about what Jesus said are real christians", which is just absurd

not an argument
it is better that a few people know the whole truth than none

>Join a Christian discord
>Everyone gets buttblasted when I'm not Catholic and say having a pope is heretical
Every time

Subbed! Thanks for this.

>hate your family to become my follower
It simply means you have to hate the world in order to be one of His disciples. God gives us families, they aren't a bad thing. But the more attached you are to this world, the less you can see and learn in the spirit.

I try to talk to my family about God but they aren't interested, it kind of pushes me away. I just wish they would be closer to Him and have greater things.

I don't think I have what it takes to hate my family but sometimes I hate being around them.

>implying quotes from the Jew book, especially the version omissions by and bearing the name of a literal faggot, written by a "church" started by a degenerate is an argument

as I mentioned before, a lot of the "white genocide policies" are a direct result of Christian Morality

see:
Christians have a death wish, and why would it be otherwise? The Life on this World has no meaning for Christians, those that are persecuted and die will sit next to the Son


You may have a particular world-affirming interpretation of Christianity that contradicts Jesus, but why would any other christians follow it? What evidence do you have that it is the correct one?

Simply saying that jews hate christianity does not make christianity correct

see: