Wait, weren't the Nazis the bad guys?

Wait, weren't the Nazis the bad guys?

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Wait, weren't the Soviets the bad guys?

Yes, goy. Nazis were very bad.

Remember the six gorrillion.

Stalin beat Hitler's bodycount.

If you listen to Dan Carlin's Hardcore history about WW2 he clarifies that mostly everyone was a massive dick back then to everyone else. However, they still didn't end up using gas because everyone said fuck that after WW1.
Imagine that, you're okay firebombing entire cites but gas is a no go.
O-okay humanity

because he was a victim to a gas attack while he was serving.

Nope. Hitler did nothing wrong, remember?

Shit is expensive

It's also inefficient

>Germans being salty about the inhumane nature of Shotguns in World War I when Americans brought them into the trenches but giving the A-okay to their own flamethrower crews and mustard gas shells

Vintage times were pretty crazy in terms of what's "humane". Then it turned to what your side could get away with in the background.

Why is Guile in World War 2 and German

>Proud German

kek.
As fictional as it gets.

There are no good nor bad guys in human wars its all morally grey unless your a retard that cant function without a black and white view of the world.

wtf, Guile wasn't part of the Battle of Stalingrad.

I came here to post this

>not being proud of having the best science in the world

ok Ahmed

>bad guys?

>sonic booms a tank to pieces
>flash kicks hitler

>implying Stroheim would ever turn against his glorious Fuhrer

The leaders were, but a lot of the people were just average Johanns who were led astray.

haven't you heard Guile goes with everything

I would encourage you to research both sides of this argument from scholarly material and then make your own decisions.

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Leaving aside whether the nazis did anything wrong or not, Stroheim was fucking based. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

Stroheim put up an admirable effort. Unfortunately, he was unaware that the Russian military had conducted their own research, and was unprepared to face their latest weapon.

The world's finest bad guys.

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You've been on Sup Forums for way too long.

I think you mean not long enough.

So what the fuck killed him anyway? A Soviet cyborg?

I think you haven't visited long enough.

Nein. They even hate you Sup Forums.

also, the battle of stalingrad had more deaths all of the allied forces lost in the entire war.
like what the actual fuck

Only the newfags who've migrated from reddit, etc. Typical migrants.

Good point we should build a wall over in Sup Forums

Better yet, let's make Sup Forums build the wall and make them pay for it too.

I don't think you understand how much of a shitshow the Battle of Stalingrad was for the Germans.

>Wait, weren't the Nazis the bad guys?

Hitler literally did nothing wrong.

BBBBBBBWWWAKAMONOGAAAA

>Laser shooting cyborg died in a war

DOUBT

He lost.

>implying

Tell that to Sup Forums.

The wall isn't to keep Sup Forums out.

The USSR's superiority

203 mm howitzer

For both or just the soviets?

Saddest moment in the series. Accompanied with this song that was playing, makes it even better.

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>tfw when you will never have a cyborg Nazi friend.

Guile was actually based off Stroheim

Ceasar wishes he were half the brojo Stroheim was. Not only did he become one of Joseph's, and by extension humanity's greatest allies ironically as hell he was also one of the best friends any of the Jojo's had period. Dude saved Joseph's life like three times at his own expense and even hooked him up with a robot hand, never asked for anything in return. RIP in peace you noble Nazi bastard.

>did I every tell you about my cyborg Nazi friend Josuke? He was helped me kill homosexual Mexicans and had shit hair just like you.

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Pretty sure it was both, but in hardcore history they talk about how germany/soviets werent counting too close around that time so the numbers could be even higher

They killed roaches pretending to be human, of course not.

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SEKAI ICHIIIIIII

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The Nazis were a group of people made up by Germans who most were mislead and some were simply trying to survive the war and didn't by into Hitler's propaganda. They were not all bad guys Nazis in this day and age tend to be stereotyped as evil but they were not all by and large evil no.

Generalplan Ost disagrees with you.

It does make the purges or famines BETTER. But if you're going by numbers...no. Which is a pretty limiting criteria in its own right.

Fun fact, according to the SFXT artbook, Guile was actually based off of Polnareff, hence the overall outfit and strange lack of eyebrows, but one of the artists messed with his hair and flatten it as a joke. They decided to go with it as the "Stroheim" look.
Also, Dhalsim was based off of Jonathan's Zoom Punch.

The Nazi party were. The SS, they were the bad guys. But the average German soldier? Not so much. They were just conscripts who got sucked into a war most of them didn't even want anything to do with, whether by actual conscription or some form of social pressure or coercion. It happened in places like Canada- able men who didn't sign up were often given white feathers. Effectively calling them chickens and shaming them into one regiment or another.

didn't he slaughter a shitload of civilian prisoners to feed santana at the beginning of part 2

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Amongst other things. He got better once he realized that the big naked Aztec man is probably a bigger issue than winning the war.

Only the cowards

a shame he wasn't as skilled in other areas

>the largest war in human history may not have happened if some dude was let into art school

>I am a time traveler from the future, and I have come back in time for a very important mission. Please sir, let this young man into your art school.

How did a nazi cyborg, capable of surviving fights with ancient Aztec bodybuilder gods, end up dying in Stalingrad anyway?

Well, the Japanese war might still have happened, given how they were inspired by the Euros to seize resource colonies of their own.

Would the west even bother to get directly involved in the Japanese war? The only reason the US got involved was because of Pearl Harbor, and Japan was only able seize Indochina, Hong Kong, the Dutch West Indies etc, because most of Europe was distracted with the nazis. Without a Japanese-German alliance, the best they could do without causing a shitstorm would be China proper, with Britain and the USSR seizing the outer regions and installing buffer states/protectorates.

And then Germany went on a road show looking for Lebensraum, and general Imperial ambitions.

And the Jews made them do it!

Oh wait.

That never happened.

You have the ability to travel back in time, but as soon as you achieve your objective, you'll be sent back to the present. Do you...

Go to Vienna in 1907 and tell the president of the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts to accept Hitler?

Go to Sarajevo in 1914 and stop Gavrilo Princip from shooting Archduke Ferdinand?

Go to the Oval Office on November 21, 1963, and demand that JFK keep the bubble dome on his limo, no matter how hot it gets in Dallas?

Go to the Oval Office in the summer of 2001 and tell Bush that these Middle Eastern men are in the country illegally, and this is what they'll do unless stopped?

Or go to Kure, Japan in 1977 and tell Miyu Matsuki's parents to get their newborn daughter vaccinated for EBV?

i go back in time and fuck my shota self

I wonder what sort of consequences this would have.

yeah but we wouldn't have ebin nukes which basically inspired all powers in anime

>Go to Vienna in 1907 and tell the president of the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts to accept Hitler?
If it wasn't Hitler, it would have been someone else. Hitler's ideas about Jews and German nationalism were hardly radical or new.
>Go to Sarajevo in 1914 and stop Gavrilo Princip from shooting Archduke Ferdinand?
This would probably be my choice. No assassination, and WW1 is stopped, or at the very least delayed for a decade or so
>Go to the Oval Office in the summer of 2001 and tell Bush that these Middle Eastern men are in the country illegally, and this is what they'll do unless stopped?
Except the CIA already knew that their was going to be a major attack, and the Bush administration ignored it and let it happen to create a false flag for invading Iraq

I thought he went home to be a family man.

The above four alter the world in such a way that all the possible repercussions could not be anticipated. I know for a fact I simply wouldn't exist if not for WWII. The fifth means we keep a good seiyuu.

I'm going five.

I go back to 1997 and tell my grandfather to invest in Apple stock.

user would be a little gayer

You'd need to stop Ferdinand from going to Sarajevo altogether to avoid his death. Keeping Princip alone from murdering him probably wouldn't really have accomplished much since there were a pretty huge amount of people that were out for blood against Austria in Sarajevo at that time.

Someone else would have shot him if Princip hadn't done it.

No user, you have to make sure Hitler stays and finish art school. Getting him accepted it's not gonna change the future.

>03/2213
>Venezuela does the same thing when it trades oil for commodities, plus medical help and so on. Hence the bankers are trying to squeaze Venezuela
They just did

Hitler wasn't a bad guy at all. All he wanted was the best for Germany. He didn't start World War II. He didn't invade Poland with intentions to take over the world and start the worst event in history. He just wanted his country to survive.

Modern Japan is how would be Germany if the nazis stay in power for stopping the commies

>Hitler wasn't a bad guy at all.
Bad and good are just words. Morals can only be defined by the individual. He murdered a lot of people and by extension those who followed him carried out his plan. Some were guilty of sharing in the power and carrying out terrible deeds but most nazis were just simple men tasked with continuing some fool hearted mission of dominated the world with super powered men. Hitler used germany's economic position and the fallout from WWI to plunge the continent back into another world war. To claim that he wasn't in compliance in this is at best dumb and at most ignorant.

>carried out his plan

What plan are you talking about? You dont really believe in the 6 gorrillions right?

I mean there's kind of a gradient to that don'cha think. Like, sure the US kinda flung the region into chaos and set them up to take power but I'm p sure ISIS qualifies as evil.

do you not?

Go back and try so save my father.

Saving your father would ruin the humanity, he died for a reason.

>shotguns were inhumane
Why?

Shut up kike. If you people hadn't been so greedy they wouldn't have had a group to blame.

Germans were upset that they could blow a mans head clean off with very little effort

I think you are confusing fascism with Nazism

>Art School
Hitler was the match that just so happened to make it to the fuse first.
>Sarajevo
I mean WWI led to the fall of monarchies which paved the way for democracy but it dawns on me that that isn't necessarily a good thing. Still though, no WWI -> no WWII ->no Isreal -> Less souring relations with the muslim world -> no 911 -> no war on terror

Then again FDR might not have become president without WWI and as much of a fucking burden it is on our national budget, medicare, social security, and welfare are pretty important for stability. Though its possible someone else might have passed it.
>Dallas
Following up after reading 11.22.63 has convinced me this would have been pretty fuckin aces. Assassinations during peacetime just never fucking work out.
>2001
Honestly if it weren't the twin towers it would have been something else, still though, Bush probably wouldn't have gotten a second term without the war in Iraq and we might be a less divided nation today if it weren't for that.
>Miyu
I mean... I'm a human male with ears. so...

This is a universal meme. Whatever the main reason for war was Hitler's rise to power which was resulted from Germany's economic conditions after the WW1. If not Hitler Nazis will just appoint another charismatic leader instead of him who would most likely have the same motivations

That's history in a nutshell. History books choose faces for making it easier to understand but the real reasons are always way more complicated. Besides, it's easier to say Hitler is the devil and ignore everything wrong before and after WW2 and I'm not even a Sup Forumstard