>oh they can't launch a missile
>oh they can't reach Japan
>oh they can't reach Hawaii
>oh they can't reach the US Mainland
>oh they can't build nuclear weapons
>oh they can't attach their nukes to their missiles
Well now they can do all of those and could carry this out at any time.
Why is the USA+South Korea not invading North Korea right now? This is getting more ridiculous than "Appeasement".
>Why is the USA+South Korea not invading North Korea right now? This is getting more ridiculous than "Appeasement".
it's not appeasement. it's not even muh China that's stopping the US from using force. like in every other best korea thread you fucking morons can never grasp the concept that it is impossible to do anything without Seoul getting absolutely fucking rekt. Seoul is in artillery and missile range, we can't take out everything quickly enough or even reliably hit missiles. that's it, just Seoul.
Everything you mentioned is simple shit relative to their resources. I'm honestly surprised they haven't done more.
Nukes are only hard because other people hinder their creation. It's surprising hard to hinder them in such a locked down country.
>their resources
kek are you dumb. look at the size of their land
inb4
>muh rare earths!
You are literally retarded.
Zips + meth + persistence + some books from the 50s is all you really need.
Also the entire fucking country is one giant fucking bunker. Land size doesn't really mean much. If it did your meme of a country would have more than 3 actual accomplishments.
And they literally do have a ton of natural resources -- not to mention they've been playing the troll card for a hundred years which lets them get resources from other shitholes with ease.
Basically this. No matter how you slice it, a lot, and I mean a LOT of people are going to die the moment we shoot back.
There's going to be enough ordinance flying to block the sun over the DMZ, and it'd either end with a good part of Seoul becoming a WWI style no man's land, or the very faces carved out of the southern mountains of NK as we'd push the largest preemptive strike the world has ever seen, based completely on overwhelming and overpowering force.
War with north korea will never happen unless it is profitable for america.
>Zips + meth + persistence + some books from the 50s is all you really need.
you're stupid. if that was all a country needed to make nukes then every single country would have nukes and no it wouldn't matter if america threatened sanctions on them. nukes would give any country leverage
>resources
>north korea
do you even know what 'resources' are
Because the people we have to get behind it, won't. We need 3 groups of people.
The American citizenry. Never going to happen until we are attacked. Deal with it.
The South Korean people. These are the ones that will get wiped out. They know it. The NKs know it. We know it. No one volunteers to die.
The Japanese. These are behind it if we can get one of the other two behind it. Preferably the USA as this will be the ones defending them.
Until those 3 groups agree to war, it ain't going to happen. So just relax.
The biggest problem with making nukes is that every country that has them will do everything they can to stop their creation.
Oh, and you just need to get the enriched uranium/plutonium from Russia or Australia if your country does not have such things. North Korea does have those things.
Beyond that you just need a small amount of funding(North Korea is actually very fucking rich) and some university grads and you're set.
When you're country is resource rich, and you run a massive criminal empire, and you have enriched plutonium, and you have people capable of reading books, and you can bomb out a gigantic fucking bunker on the fly, you can build nukes with ease.
Nukes are not by any means hard to build, especially the well known ones. It's the amount of fucking flack you get by just trying to buy some plutonium that stops you from doing it.
I'm quite convinced you know nothing about this topic. NK is incredibly rich. They are very persistent. They have had all the tools needed to build nukes for essentially forever.
I missed something in your post.
It's not just the US that's involved in "sanctioning" countries that try to build nukes. Literally every country with nukes does this, whether they are trying to stop them or help them.
It's not sanctions that stop these programs. It's people on crotch rockets who shoot the shit out of anyone who has the capabilities to work a program.
It's a well documented phenomena in Iran and formerly in Iraq and other sand countries.
The difference between those countries and NK is that it's incredibly hard to insert someone into NK as opposed to Iran(Mossad somehow manages to do it without trying).
Each of the steps required to build a nuke are actually extremely simple. It's essentially a breeze for any capable country. But when someone does not want you to build a nuke, it becomes really fucking hard to do it.
If they could hit San Francisco that would be great
THEY CANT DO SHIT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS. WEEK AFTER WEEK. YEAR AFTER YEAR. THEY CANT EVEN COUNT ON THEIR MISSLES LAUNCHING OFF THE PLATFORM.
FUCK OFF
TRUMP IS TAKING OUT THE ROTHSCHILDS
WONT BE LONG
ISRAEL WILL FALL.
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Rocket man quit promoting your shitty country
And stop hiding behind an American proxy
>oh they can't build a nuclear arsenal larger than the US
>oh they can't build EMPs that knock out all tech in US
>oh they can't march on Seol
>oh they can't take over the world
>oh they can't take over the universe
>Rocket man
A new shitty maymay by le reddit trump.
>They have had all the tools needed to build nukes for essentially forever.
Except the technical knowledge. Their recent supposed h-bomb might run into problems.
DO IT KIM YOU FAT FUCK
DPRK has no intention of invading the US. They built everything in self defense. If the US and the southern puppet regime invade the DPRK, you are giving them justification to unleash a nuclear holy war.
Fuck off kike, no one wants to fight Israel/Rothschild wars anymore.
>NK leadership don't want a war because they'll die
>Americans don't want a war because their assets in South Korea and Northern Japan will be destroyed.
>China doesn't want a war because 10mil NK refugees will rush the border
>Russia doesn't wan't a war because when reunification happens they will more thank likely have to share a land border with an American Allie.
Nothing will happen retard.
>eee ehm pee knocks out all tech.
If they really wanted to, they wouldn't need to go through all of the trouble and sophistication if a nuclear device. There are plenty of ways to knock out critical infrastructure if another country that are cheaper and have the benefit of not being traceable to any identifiable nation state.
stop masturbating
That's plausibly a problem but they are more than capable of doing most of that shit.
The biggest problem would come about if they got lazy and C&Ped some shit from another nation's program... If that nation had good counter intel, an extremely lulzy situation could arise.
But yeah -- if they were smart they'd stick to what they know and not a slightly better fad.
That's probably harder than you think, unless you're talking about this from a position of knowledge. It's one thing to do that shit to a third world country(like when Russia used some spaghetti string code to kill the power in Ukraine), but modern and/or paranoid countries are a lot harder to hit in those areas.
No, they really are not.
And here's the archive
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Because if USA strikes them first, China will ally with NK.
And it's not just about hacking ICS/SCADA stuff.
Sometimes it's even more simple.
Who says Americans wouldn't be behind a war with NK? You're talking about the same people who applauded Bush for going into Iraq and didn't question his motives until at least a year afterwards.
trump is a pussy and will let them attack us. why did i vote for this guy again? he's not hillary, but that's all he's done.
Because North Korea isn't a kike puppet and therefore, a threat to the Rothschild family
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A large coordinated bombardment of NK artillery and missile silos along with an SK invasion force will cuck NK entirely.
They can't launch nukes, and the invading force is their "uninformed brothers" rather than the "evil rapist white man".
and hollywood., then seattle.
Hate to break it to you North Korea has been able to strike the USA for some time thanks to their sub fleet
Also they should have called him artillery man... the amount of cannons aimed at the south is ludicrous and it would be destroyed quickly by old school tech why the south built up seoul there after the war i have no idea
also if you have read north korea policy they say all this nuke and missile shenagians is because of IRAQ ! they got shit scared by what the US did to Saddam and have fielded quiet an effective response
its fucked... there is no way to solve this than constant appeasment and UN angry letters or scorched earth depacation strike...
Answered your own question.
That's a fair point but things are not as simple as that article might imply.
There's a reason why specific incidents can be pointed out by symantec, of all fucking companies.
FDR 2 electric boogaloo
Al those with american flags cheering for this psychopath get the fuck out of my country you fucking traitors
They likely aren't cheering for NK, just the lulz.
But knowing this site... There's an extremely high likelyhood that some weirdo who smells like baloni has studied juche and Korean for 10 years and unironically praises dear reader.
Only 30% of SK capital in range of NK arty.
Room for 20,000,000 in bomb shelters beneath city.
Maybe a million casualties, within 10 minutes most people would be underground. Not as bad as people believe.
Literally a phishing campaign. It's the easiest way in.
Also, what's with the hate for Symantec? Don't you remember Not Petya?
i think the psychopath thing is propaganda
as i said i think all this nuke and missile development is because of what happened to Saddam.. Baghdad had the most protected airspace in the world and we came in an fucked up his shit twice
Considering that chasing Nukes and ICBMs seems pretty logical behavior to me.
Just because you can interact with a system doesn't mean you have the upperhand. And phishing is by far one of the dumbest methods you could willingly choose. I can't reasonably explain anything I just said, but if you look deep enough you'll see serious flaws with both of the things mentioned above.
Also, symantec(and all AVs you can read about on the public fucking net) is essentially expected to be seen by the attackers. It's essentially a tool to level the field -- and pollute your mind.
No, there's a reason we didn't go after Khan when he was exporting controlled nuclear information to other countries.
The problem is, we lost all visibility of that data when it came to the Hermit Kingdom. We couldn't look into their development process, and nobody in Korea is allowed to have a computer/connection to the outside.
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>The biggest problem with making nukes is that every country that has them will do everything they can to stop their creation.
and that hasn't stopped a single country that was capable of building them. you know nothing about the situation in the region. the only reason you think north korea has a lot of resources is because you saw some posts on Sup Forums regurgitating some article that said north korea has a lot of rare earth metals and that makes you make this sort of sweeping generalization that north korea has a lot of resources without even realizing the fact that the terrain there makes gathering such resources incredibly difficult. their largest export is coal and that should tell you enough to know that their resources are incredibly limited but no, you're an idiot who also happens to think all you need to make nukes is enriched uranium which you seeum to think russia would haphazardly sell to any country that can afford it
>It's essentially a breeze for any capable country
keyword is [capable] you fucking moron and that vast majority of countries aren't capable. and considering the crippling sanctions and complete isolation that nk had, it would be anything but an expectation that nk pulled it off and even shocked america's intel officials at how fast they've accelerated their capabilities
Because conquering them would mean returning conscription to the US and 250.000 dead Americans, not counting everyone else.
If by dumbest you mean most effective vs. cost and time?
How do you think the majority of major breaches happen? People are dumb. Therefore, dumb things work. And with phishing, you only have to get one.
Symantec is pretty robust. Their AI research is bleeding edge for AV. I understand AV weaknesses but I think their predictive analytics and the way they are bringing AI into it is a step in the right direction.
Also, literally thwarted Not Petya btw.
a bunch of snowflakes get purged in north korea. this is not a problem and should be desired. the reason we have the sjw infestation is the genetic genepool has been allowed to fester.
You know nothing about NK.
They have an absurd amount of money given their situation. They are involved in tons of international crime. They slave out their population to Russia, China, and a good portion of Europe. They rob fucking banks of millions of dollars and sell more drugs than you can comprehend. They are given resources and money by Russia and China simply because it fucks with the west. You're deluded if you think that hermit state shit actually means what you think it does.
They are insanely rich for what they are.
Oh, and most of the ME doesn't have nukes for a reason.
You kind of answered yourself. Phishing, especially spear phishing, has such a deterministic pattern that any organization that has it's shit together can manually detect and manage it. Add a capable AI into the mix and you've basically negated almost all phishing. Better yet you can just sandbox(most malware that hits industrial control/power plants/etc lays dormant for a long time) it and essentially just waste the attacker's time and figure out who they are. It's actually a very effective method -- you let them in each and everytime to ID them and get their skill level(sometimes an artificial environment is created to get more info, ie putting a complex or niche problem in their way), then let them do a few things, then use parralel methods to find the breach you already knew about. This is usually standard practice for people who know what they're doing. It's incredibly disenfranchising aswell.
Phishing certainly works, but it's not going to be what you expect if you spear phish a heavily monitored internet line to get into critical infrastructure. The battle field is already set up here, and you're just walking directly into a sword. And on the off chance you've developed a new method or use a non internet method, you've essentially done the same thing.
Also, I can almost guarentee that symantec didn't stop notpetya. They published it, though...
>Oh, and most of the ME doesn't have nukes for a reason.
Do tell us, please. Not all of us studied international relations at Georgetown University, so we don't have to necessary context to understand your terse statement here.
you're not even addressing the argument. nobody said that they aren't
>They are insanely rich for what they are.
you implied that making nukes is such a simple process and that nk has so many resources available that it isn't surprising that they have them. and that retarded notion contradicts the opinion of anyone who's actually had the chance to formally analyze nk and their situation and every expert on nk including american intel
Pretty much any nutjob or organization that aspires to create or buy a nuclear weapon doesn't last long.
And plenty of countries, especially in the middle east, have aspired to obtain nuclear weapons.
It may not have been the deciding factor for people like Sadaam, but it was certainly adjuvantive.
Every nutter knows the only way you can even hope to keep your country and do crazy shit is to join the MAD "cartel".
>oh they can't kidnap my ex wife and feed her mushy rice until she wishes we were like we used to be
please
If you actually read up on their artillery pieces, you'd realize they have very few artillery and missiles which can reach Seoul. Most of their pieces are out of range, but could hit smaller populations further near the DMZ.
This.
Jesus Christ.
Just reread the posts you idiot.
The biggest hurdles to building a nuke are enriched uranium/plutonium and not getting taken down by people who don't want you to have nukes.
NK has had enough wealth, resources, and international standing to get basically everything it needed years ago.
Literally though, just reread them.
reread your posts you moron. first off, you make an incredibly stupid assumption that gathering the supplies and provisions necessary to build nuclear bombs is easy
>hur dur all u need is meth + books
you make that sort of dumb assumption out of complete ignorance. and furthermore you seem to think north korea of all countries had advantages in gathering and maintaining such provisions for making nukes when they've had a famine just right before they started to seriously undertake their weapons projects
>NK has had enough wealth, resources, and international standing to get basically everything it needed years ago.
what else can be said other than that your shitty education system is showing through your posts
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