Why is Ukraine so god damn poor? They're literally Africa-tier.
>inb4 communism
Almost all of Eastern Europe, was under repressive communist rule for decades, but no other country in the region is as dirt poor as Ukraine. There must be some other reason.
Belarus and Ukraine are pretty much dictatorships.
Landon Nelson
Flanders is one of the richest regions of the EU, iirc.
Colton Morales
We (Germans) have it really well here. In fact, when it comes to wealth, Germans can easily rival the British. Unfortunately we have alot of Slavic, Polish, Turkish and African immigrants with almost no wealth whatsoever dragging us down. Many """"germans"""" are Polish immigrants.
Kayden Perez
>ukraine
no such country
Ian Sanchez
Europoors Lel
Mason Sanders
I see I'm part of the master race with 200k more than the 2nd richest. How does it feel, Union cucks?
Austin Williams
Ukraine was opressed harder than any other nation under the Soviet Union. Also, their industrial base in Donetsk is under the control of Novorossya and one of their most important ports, Sevastopol, was seized by the Russian scum.
Sebastian Robinson
>Why is Ukraine so god damn poor? It is rightful Polish clay being occupied by hohols, they said they won't move, and will just sit there doing fuck all. This land will be poor until rightful owners come back.
Benjamin Sanchez
Indeed GDP per capita
Nigeria - 2.650$ Ukraine - 2.200$
Romania, Russia, Poland and Hungary needs their land back but they can't absorb to much of Ukraine because if that happened they would become shitholes.
Lincoln Walker
British have tons of Poles too, we have tons of Poles too, and let's not talk about Sweden. There's no excuses Hans
Wyatt Thomas
Imagine if they tracked all the black funds in this Italy would come out on top unrivaled kek
Well, maybe not on top of the Swiss. Fucking mountain jews.
Luis Nelson
How come fucking Moldova is richer than the Ukraine? Ukraine at least has SOMETHING, while Moldova has no sea access, only 500 m of access to the Danube. They also havea wannabe USSR breakaway region, no industry and all their manpower is flowing to Romania and making our lives worse. Moldovans are the worst thing to have happened to Romania after the Turks
Logan Cox
>tfw masterrace >tfw looking down on everyone else especially German subhumans
Anthony Price
>Romanian complaining about cheap foreign workforce disrupting the economy
What a time to be alive.
Blake Cook
Fucking mountain Jews.
Nathan Green
Didn't realise we're so rich
Charles Stewart
>country under commie Jew occupation for 100 years >collapses and half the Jews leave with stolen goods >country shows a little sign of recovery and Jews instantly get back at robbing the country blind
Ukraine is what happens when you let Jews run rampant
Nicholas Richardson
The Romanians that leave Romania are from the mostly from the historical region of Moldova, which is just like the Republic of Moldova. Fucking alcoholic socialists that sit around all day and do nothing
Easton Moore
Also most of them are gypsies because Antonescu had the brilliant idea to deport them all to Moldova
Ayden Hill
We steal money from our fellow EU members.
Leo Bailey
Jews. Read up on privatisation in eastern europe after communism.
Carter Watson
This isn't GDP per capita, it's wealth.
Nations with high home ownership will have higher amounts of wealth .
Jaxon Ward
The country didn't use last 25 years to develop better due to corruption and mismanagement (although it would be fair to notice they had a lot less comfy social and economic situation than for exemple Poland or Czechs or even the Baltics). But right now it's a country at war. Being at war with the much stronger adversary is enough to wreck your economy (duh)but being at war with the much stronger opponent who used to be your biggest economy partner and major energy supplier gets you wheere Ukraine is right now. It's not going to be easy for Ukrainians to get out of this situation.
Landon Butler
Ukraine isn't at war under any definition. They aren't in conflict with Russian Federation and they consider everyone associated with novorussian republics terrorists, not national combatants.
Hunter Scott
Go back to /r/europe
Hudson Gutierrez
not an argument
Wyatt Barnes
They are playing a game on Russian rules. RF annexed part of their territory and are using tanks, AA systems and serviceman in the other part as we speak. It is a low intensity conflict. Russia can escalate it or de escalate it as it please. Formally, neighter of those 2 countries declared war cause this situation fits them better than alternative. Though all signs of war are present.
Cameron Price
wallonia one of the poorest....
Christian Gonzalez
ik steel van die rijke niggaz die rijke tattas
Evan Ward
>and are using tanks, AA systems and serviceman in the other part
there is no proof of this
Owen Perez
:)
Carter Reed
For humans: Corruption, oligarchs and stuck in deep shit. For 1488: >muh jews
Julian Carter
How old is this infograph?
Luke Wright
Germans have one of the lowest home ownership rates in Europe. Greek, Italians etc all richer than you.
Corruption is Jewish Odessite culture Oligarchs = Jews Deep shit was brought by Jews - Rothschild, Kagan, Cohen, Nudelman...
Noah Baker
42 million*
Aiden Campbell
Which means that the people in that nation are less cucked. If you have a paid off house and 20+k in the bank you can easily decide to give the middle finger to everyone at work and be a NEET for a while.
If you're over 30 and still renting you're cucked beyond belief.
Christian Roberts
Redpills on Ukraine
> 70% of income goes unreported, corrupt tax authorities mean only 12% of taxes are collected every year, and that number is stupidly high if you assume the size of their dark economy aforementioned > Most wealth is calculated in savings which is then converted back into US$. The UAH has fallen by 98% since 2010, which means their Purchasing Power and savings have cratered > 1 in 3 banks have defaulted due to the massive currency deflation. This means most savings are now in cash, in households, in vaults. Which means average wealth reports are tough to find > Most wealth is tied to the stock market equity valuations divided by population. In the case of Ukraine, the market like the UAH has fallen, which also adds a deflator to wealth estimates. Most if not all Ukrainians have over 40% of their wealth abroad, abroad can even mean Poland or German cash accounts which make reporting difficult. As there is no global FATCA level disclosures for Ukraine at this time.
First, the report from CSFB is old, 2015 data is 3 years out of date. You should be able to find better data esp. since the Moody's upgrade.
A better proxy is looking at luxury consumption sales. Its far harder to hide purchases of Mercedes or Bentleys. Ukraine new car purchases are still ticking higher, unlike the US new car inventories & numbers since 1Q17.
t. IMF Ukraine & SPFU Advisor (and no I'm not going to post my credentials on 4ch for Ivan)
Colton Garcia
>mfw hollanders learn Flanders is superior
Jayden Lopez
My dad is from Kharkov and I spent quite a bit of time there and "patriotic Ukrainian" population is literally nigger tier retards who are indistinguishable from albino niggers. Only their "whitey who stole all da gibs" is Russia, who essentially built the entire country as a hobby ~100 years ago. The Russian minority is based, not the brightest but they actually work demanding blue collar jobs so they don't bitch as much and have a work ethic.
Hopefully the entire Eastern half goes to Russia and the Western part implodes and gets cannibalized by Poland.
Luke Clark
The last thing we need are more Ukrainians.
Nicholas Reed
How much would a 10/10 whore be in Ukraine?
Kevin Russell
>tfw Anglo Master race
Robert Miller
probably not more than 50 euros.
Elijah Anderson
When I said cannibalized I meant it literally
Gabriel Jones
does this prove the superiority of catholicism?
Grayson Scott
why do CZ and slovenia have lower wealth when their gdp/capita is almost 50% higher than ours
Henry Barnes
*lower wealth than portugal
Cooper Brown
steady on lad we've sold all the family silver and are barely anglo anymore. I'd suck an americans cock just for the taste of freedom and a few dollars landing on my neck.
Christopher Butler
>Switzerland sitting comfy at over half a mil Literally mountain jews
Andrew White
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Michael Ross
My nation is among the poorest but in all due honesty I dont believe the average citizen has 74k dollars (way less). I also dont believe that most of the swiss have half a million dollars. Wtf is this shit? Are they counting all of the wealth such as real estate or something? GDP per capita?
If not, the map is full of shit. Not to mention the variance. The US should have one hell of a value too but the variance is so great that 80% or more are plebs.
Alexander Wood
>Sierra Leone is the home of superniggers
Caleb Lopez
>Ukraine
Ukrainian Women can come to my house if they want to live a better life
Really gotta compare GDP per capita PPP when comparing nations. Not nominal GDP per capita since that doesnt take into account inflation, living costs, etc.
Ukraine $7668 Namibia $9812 Nigeria $5438
Julian Morales
>We somehow all have 177k Isn't Growth just for Growth creating meaningless Numbers Great? In ten years we're all Millionaires!
William Clark
They are rightful Polish clay to begin with so they should not be a """sovereign country""". It is literally a meme thanks to capitalist West and Communist traitor East.
GLORY TO POLAND
Charles Adams
Corruption. They will be fucked for a decade easy.
Dominic Hall
SERBIA WTF HAPPENED ? WHY IS FUCKING ALBANIA IN A (slightly) LESS SHIT POSITION THAN YOU GUYS?
Luke Long
Size of economy / population of working age. CZ & Slovenia are largely tourist traps with small to total GDP manufacturing sectors.
Landon Campbell
What a stupid meme-map. Do you believe the average swiss is 550 times as rich as the average ukrainian?
Nathan Cox
> >>Why is Ukraine so god damn poor? >It is rightful Polish clay being occupied by hohols, they said they won't move, and will just sit there doing fuck all. >This land will be poor until rightful owners come back.
We get Preußen and we give you Ukraine, deal?
Carson Cook
kys Kraut
Angel Price
I pity Ukraine
Josiah Ortiz
thats because you are a literal subhuman paki
kys
Jaxson Butler
Anarchy in the past lack rule of law and from XX-century communism on Ukraine.
Isaac Rivera
>Algeria, a fucking Muslim country wich is basically a desert is better than Ukraine at everything. what went wrong?
Joseph Richardson
Where is my fucking money
John Jenkins
>France >better life
kys Mohamed.
Josiah Myers
Their misery is our happiness
Jayden Kelly
They make good beer and chocolate, your country only exports bad footballers and weed
Brayden Ross
Ukraine is in a formative stage of a cohesive nation. They are, more or less, on the level of other eastern european countries 20 years ago.
You'll see them btfoing russia in 20-30 years, unless they again choose a parasite as a president. Then, fuck'em they're stupid.
Jaxson Cooper
OP, it's because there are genetic differences within races. Why is Eastern Europe so much poorer than Western Europe? It's not communism. That wealth gap existed centuries before communism. It's because they're genetically different.
Likewise, why do some Eastern Europeans (Ukraine) lag behind others? Genetic differences. Everyone is quick to jump to cultural explanations but in this day and age, more often than not the difference between groups is genetic.
Easton Walker
>live in a natural mountain fortress >lend money to all the subhuman trash >store loot subhuman trash takes from other subhuman trash >.... >profit
Dylan Cruz
>Ukraine isn't at war under any definition.
Having a military action on your territory, where enemy militants are backed up by an other force is kinda/sorta being at war.
I mean, those poor fuckers in the Donetsk don't give a fuck if they are 'formally' at war if shit gets shot on the streets allday'erryday.
Adam Moore
>Ukraine No such country
Jaxson Stewart
>>It is rightful Polish clay being occupied by hohols, they said they won't move, and will just sit there doing fuck all. >>This land will be poor until rightful owners come back. >We get Preußen and we give you Ukraine, deal?
I don't get this thing. There are almost no Poles in Ukraine these days. All were forcefully 'repatriated' to what is 'rightfully german' land - Breslau and the neighbourhood. Germans from there were kicked out, just like they were kicked out of west Prussia.
Its the same deal as it is with Karelia and Finland or NORK and South Korea. Why would Poland want such an impoverished land with hostile people in it? To spend Merkel gibs to develop it?
I've been to Lvov. Its a shithole.
Luke Martinez
There was a wealth gap but it wasn't particularly big until communism. Much of Eastern Europe should be as rich as Greece or Portugal in a few decades. Maybe they won't ever catch Germoney and France, but they won't be far off. Ukraine is different because they never got past the ridiculous post-soviet gangster corruption. Their whole economy is based of growing wheat and extorting money from Russia's gas pipelines.
Charles Cox
>Be Ukrainian >Flee to France to live well >Muh France is shit