SINGLE PAYER NOW

Give me one good reason why we should have for profit healthcare and not single payer trumpfaggots.

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do you actually want your money going to some bum-ass third world immigrant?

Because we're a capitalist country.

Because poor people should die, then we'd have less poverty.

>not an amalgamation

Get out

Because the government isn't always right

Because one guy can't pay for 300 million Americans and 50 million illeagals.

One guy can't do it.
Single payer is a no starter op.
Go back to your playpen and try again....

>Because we're a capitalist country.

Many other capitalist nations have single payer healthcare

HELL WE GOT IT FOR PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 65 YEARS OLD

IT'S CALLED MEDICARE

Because the capital generation in this system goes toward funding research into new treatments and cures which are a phenomenal improvement over the current regime of available treatments. That's what Shkreli's problems were all about...initially at least. That's why he hiked prices...to gouge insurance companies into paying for new research into a better drug.

>Because the capital generation in this system goes toward funding research into new treatments and cures which are a phenomenal improvement over the current regime of available treatments.

Like we couldn't do this under a better system?

Because it's full of welfare leeches and illegals that already get it for free.

Get rid of the assortments of human garbage and we can have universal healthcare.

Because you won't have to wait 24 hours for an emergency

>Because it's full of welfare leeches and illegals that already get it for free.

So why not make it free for everyone so the burden of cost isn't the middle class?

>government is always right and always the answer to our problems
>Republican President, Republican Congress, majority right Supreme Court

>Because you won't have to wait 24 hours for an emergency

Under single payer I would get to see doctors and not have to go to emergency rooms.

>this clueless retard trying to trick anyone into think martin shitstain was acting in a non-selfish, humanitarian way

0/10 dumb ass. Sup Forums is 18+ btw, so you gotta fuck off for a few years.

Because Australia got the greatest healthcare deal of all time at the cost of US taxpayers.

>The American pharmaceutical companies claim that in enjoying low-cost medicines, Australians are essentially free riding on the costs of research performed in the U.S.[9]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia–United_States_Free_Trade_Agreement

Yeah Medicare is awesome. Let's do more of that.

>Yeah Medicare is awesome. Let's do more of that.

Yeah it is.

You're disillusioned. If you want to see a doctor, you need a "family doctor" which is a giant pain in the ass because most of them can't take more patient

>The American pharmaceutical companies claim that in enjoying low-cost medicines, Australians are essentially free riding on the costs of research performed in the U.S.[9]

BRAVO AMERICA

>You're disillusioned.

I'm an American looking out for my own countries interests, I'm not a capitalist kike like Republicans or a foreign leech like

I hope if we get single payer healthcare you get cancer and have to wait a year to get it treated like all the other single payer places.

because its not free berniefaggot it gets paid for somehow and the money will 100% come from the middle class. You liberal fuckwits have this psychotic delusion that taxing mega-rich people can pay for it. The mega rich you're thinking of don't pay any fucking taxes at all now! know why? because the GOVERNMENT writes loopholes into the tax code in exchange for bribes. you cannot trust any government let alone this one to heal you when you're sick. GROW UP.

So why not solve the demographic issue before implementing universal healthcare?

Because there are nonwhites presently living in this country.
Remove them and I'd have no qualm with it.

If the government had ever before done one thing that didn't end up becoming a cluster fuck of incompetence and criminality, I might agree with you. The government is ran by psychotics and criminals who deserve absolutely NO POWER, not more.

>Under single payer I would get to see doctors and not have to go to emergency rooms.
Heh.... haha... HahaHa.. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

To reward innovation.

Take it from a leaf, our system is completly flawed and needs a gigantic overhaul

>So why not solve the demographic issue before implementing universal healthcare?

Cause implementing a literal genocide is not supported by many in the US and the UN/world would intervene.

Because the price of care would skyrocket and the quality of care would dramatically decline?

Not to mention, imagine how bad illegal migration is, quadruple that

>Take it from a leaf, our system is completly flawed and needs a gigantic overhaul

Do you think our system is great? It's a fucking disaster. At least you are paying as much as we are and getting shitty results.

I don't want to pay for bums to sit on their ass and get free shit. I'm sick of all the free shit we give bums already.

Gr8 b8 m8

>and the UN/world would intervene
Heh.... haha... HahaHa.. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Because history teaches us that growth of government always and everywhere coincides with growth in corruption and anti-consumer (anti-populace) practices.

No matter how noble the intentions, no matter how sensible the narrative, every socialist policy is inferior to its open market alternative. There are no exceptions to this rule.

I'll consider it when America follows suit of other single payer countries and clamps down on illegal immigration and gets rid of birth right citizenship. Otherwise fuck it, you might as well be paying for the whole world.

>Because the price of care would skyrocket

This is an out right lie

nytimes.com/2017/07/07/upshot/why-single-payer-health-care-saves-money.html?mcubz=0

>you might as well be paying for the whole world.

You already are burger.

Archive please
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At least you don't have to wait days to see a doctor my dude

Why don't we just privatize it, like almost every other form of insurance? Is it a coincidence that healthcare, the government one, happens to be the least fun?

You don't live in a homogeneous society

Name a system that is capable of doing it as well. Also, most Americans get their insurance through their employment and are satisfied with it. These people are the biggest problem with the politics of single payer. How do you convince these people who are satisfied they'd be better served through socialized medicine?

I never said he was a humanitarian. I simply meant to convey his compliance with standard industry practices. No one hates Merck of Pfizer for doing the same thing.

American healthcare is over costed because of socialst policies. A hosptital in an actually capitalist society could not charge $1500 for an asprin but they canin a socialist one. When you onyl have one customer and no competitors OR COURSE the prices skyrocket. again a liberal fails to understand basic economics. This is high school level shit here pal.

>At least you don't have to wait days to see a doctor my dude

I can't cause I got no insurance cause Republicans repealed by healthcare.

Who said anything about genocide?

we absolutely should but converting the brainlets is difficult.
HEALTH CARE IN THIS CURRENT SYSTEM IS BASED ON GREED ALONE
ALL OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND DOCTORS AND DRUG COMPANIES ARE MAKING OUT LIKE BANDITS. THE DRUGS AND SURGERIES THEY GIVE DO NOT CURE YOUR PROBLEMS THEY ONLY TREAT THE SYMPTOMS UNTIL YOU EITHER DIE OR HAVE MUCH WORSE PROBLEMS YEARS LATER. WITH SINGLE PAYER THERE WILL BE STANDARDIZED PROCEDURES AND TREATMENTS WHICH WILL LOWER THE COST AND CREATE NEW JOBS FOR PEOPLE TO PERFORM THESE BASIC STANDARD PROCEDURES. EVENTUALLY WAIT TIMES WILL BE LOWERED THROUGH TECHNOLOGY AND WITH TIME THINGS WILL BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.

NOT TO MENTION MONEY ISNT THE END GAME HERE. MAKING A SUCCESSFUL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS. MEANING NO GMO DRUGS OR PROCEDURES LIKE CHEMO JUST TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. HELL EVEN CANCER MIGHT BE CURED SINCE THE BLOOD SUCKING CHEMO DOCTORS WILL BE PUSHED OUT

"single payer" is nothing more than a govt-controlled ration system.

Your healthcare would be rationed to a pre-defined level regardless of your willingness to pay more for better coverage. A social worker would tell you whether you or your family need treatment or not, and you could do nothing about it.

There would be no incentive for the govt to create new technology or innovate in medicine. The gov't would also not likely lower the cost of healthcare that you pay into the system as there would be zero competition.

Corporate entities would make backroom deals with the govt in order to have lower drug prices; this would expand rent-seeking to new levels.

And we haven't even talked about your new tax bill.

Fuck no to single-payer in America.

>You don't live in a homogeneous society

Canada
Belgium
Spain
UK
Australia
New Zealand
UED
Kuwait
Bahrain
Cuba

All countries that aren't homogeneous with single payer healthcare

DEBUNKED MYTH

I oppose free healthcare because I oppose slavery.
I have no right to someone else's labor. Unless that someone is willing to offer their labor in exchange for a payment THEY (and to a lesser extent) I deem acceptable.
(((Free))) healthcare is FORCED LABOR with no agreed upon transaction, therefore slavery.
Just admit (you) are pro-slavery or else we cannot continue a dialogue on the subject.

The average middle class person's healthcare would experience a huge quality drop due to poor people burdening the system and doctor shortages. Rich people will be fine because they will circumvent the system one way or another. Anyone who thinks socialism does anything but screw the middle class to buy votes from the poor is delusional. The rich aren't some bottomless piggybank and congress will never ever pass anything that significantly actually hurts them.

>because I oppose slavery.

You wot m8

>forcing someone to work for you and keep them in bondage
>not wanting your grandparents to die a horrible fucking death in poverty

Charlie Gard

Sage

fee.org/articles/why-single-payer-health-care-delivers-poor-quality-at-high-cost/

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR SMART.

you don't understand anything. i honestly believe you're 12 years old. when you work your first job and see that even a wage slave schmuck like me who makes less than 20k a year STILL gets taxed to death in this country then i'd love to hear your opinion.

>There would be no incentive for the govt to create new technology or innovate in medicine
wrong
>The gov't would also not likely lower the cost of healthcare that you pay into the system as there would be zero competition.
healthcare will be paid be every citizen therefor lowing the price also the monopoly the thousands of insurance companies have will lower prices. some retard doctor that can memorize biology notecards but doesnt realize the drug hes giving his patients is actually causing way more damage will get paid less also

yfw you finally realize what you get for free is worth what you paid for it.

Oh, wow, a dying unemployed communist...

that's sad.

We already have single payer FOR PEOPLE OVER 65

The question is: WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE UNDER 65 YEARS OLD?

Because I truly dislike poor people. We would be better as a society if they just died.

nice argument. obviously under 20k you would still be receiving low taxes. right now under 16k? pay 0 taxes

>Because I truly dislike poor people. We would be better as a society if they just died.

So why not make them less poor?

Not sure how that detracts from my point fellow burger.

canada single payer actually has the leading research and technology on heart valve replacements

KUWAIT???!!! Holy shit my sides. sure go ahead and live there shithead.

We can't trust the government to do anything, yet you would completely trust them to provide quality healthcare at a cost that doesn't skyrocket the debt?

We have military bases overseas so countries don't have to pay for their military so they can get gibs and leech off us while we get FUCKED

Single payer means that Skinny healthy Asians like me have to pay for fat dumb niggers, beaners, and hillbilly whites to leech off of the system. Also we have to pay women who don't contribute to the system to leech off of our health care system. Single payer helps niggers, beaners, and women, and hurts White and Asian men

Because to do that, we'd have to take money away from the successful people.

>Canada
Still majority white, low number of shitskins and leechers (yet). Quebec is like a separate country

>Belgium
Like two separate segregated countries

>Spain
Homogeneous

>UK
Same as No1

>Australia
Same

>New Zealand
Same

>UED
>Kuwait
>Bahrain
Same

>Cuba
Shithole.

You're full of shit

>let me tell you about your country and everything that goes on in it
>burger_clapping.jpg

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HOMOGENEOUS

Those are all temporary workers serving their oil overlords, they're unlikely to get the same benefits as natives

Local rural dialects & small regional languages

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Canadian here.
Physically exterminate your fat, smokers, and druggies and single payer will work.
Until then, you have failed medical systems such as Canada's.

Medical research by nation.
forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/03/23/the-most-innovative-countries-in-biology-and-medicine/amp/

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i pay sales tax on everything i buy that isnt food, my gasoline is taxed,. it goes on and on. again you know nothing.just because i personally do not get income taxed does not mean i done see my friends and family get reamed every year so all the lazy twats can get their fucking welfare bullshit and still beg me for change on the subway every day. but allow me to phrase it in your own language. YOU KNOW NOTHING YOU CONTEMPTUOUS LITTLE SNOT.

So, you want the government to take more money from you, and you hope to get it back with shoddy government health care.
You expect doctors and other health care workers to work at the point of a gun directly for the government with shitty pay.
Then will you will expect that every asshole that sneaks across the border, to receive the same care, even if they haven't paid into the system?
Can you do any rudimentary math at all, or are you simply retarded?

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Actually under single payer - you would do just that - have to go into an emergency room to get treated. I mean, unless you're fine with setting appointments with doctors and waiting for 2-4 months.

>that fucking bloc of frenchies in my province

PHYSICALLY
REMOVE
EASTERN
BASTARDS

So now that the homogeneous argument is destroyed, what is next?

Most of those are meme ethnicities indistinct from the main white identity

Diversity is a suicide

>Actually under single payer - you would do just that - have to go into an emergency room to get treated. I mean, unless you're fine with setting appointments with doctors and waiting for 2-4 months.

Sean hannity pls go

Even that would be better than what I got now.

No it is not, retard, most of the countries you listed function because of whites and their work ethic

>Most of those are meme ethnicities indistinct from the main white identity
>white people are now all one now
>a few decades ago whites were killing each other (Germanic vs Slavs World war II)

>No it is not, retard, most of the countries you listed function because of whites and their work ethic
And America doesn't have a work ethic?

>implying I share any identity with an eastern bastard

you fucking take that back

If single payer ends up being cheaper while providing more care, why would you be against it?

Who wins with the current system? Certainly not the average American. And what purpose do insurance companies even serve aside from being massive kikes bent on stealing as much value from the system while providing as little care as possible

WASPs dominate in Canada (and Frenchies, accordingly, in Quebec). Those are main ethnicities, and other whites just follow their ways

America is deeply infested with rapidly breeding non-white elements with a totally different system of values, at a MUCH higher rate than other Western countries, and those people will get the country nowhere in the long term

>WASPs dominate in Canada (and Frenchies, accordingly, in Quebec). Those are main ethnicities, and other whites just follow their ways

That's not true at all and here are also blacks and Natives in Canada. Black fled to Canada to escape slavery here.

Lot of Chinese on the west coast

And the system is still sustained by whites, who are the majority (by far)

>mentioning blacks as a contributing factor of any sort
It's time to stop posting

What if we just like

Had a completely free market

and then we each paid for the amount of healthcare that we use?

>Give me one good reason why we should have for profit healthcare and not single payer trumpfaggots.
Because I and most wealthy people will move overseas if I have to pay an extra 20% in taxes to wait a year in line for a doctor's appointment.

The reason why it won't work is because to have single payer you need two things: A small population and an educated population. It's obvious why smaller population is better because it becomes more efficient and you don't have to wait 8 hours for a doctor like in canada. The second and most important is education. You need a population of people that knows eating five fucking hamburgers is bad for you and you shouldn't do it. Until the US fixes those things it single payer will not work.

Why should we profit for anything!? Let's go full commie! North Korea/Venuezuela here we come!

Seriously, we need to undo welfare and social security which will all be empty in our lifetime.