/esp/ Spain General - Catalan Dissidence Edition

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This thread is for the discussion of Spanish politics. Try to keep it in English so non-Spanish bros can keep up.
What do we do to save Spain?

Latest News:
>The PSOE, or Spanish Socialist Worker's Party, asks the government to clearly declare whether Article 155 will be executed.

>Puigdemont on the Guardia Civil's list after an "administrative scandal" in Gerona is uncovered, dating back to his days as a major.
abc.es/espana/abci-guardia-civil-lanza-operacion-contra-corrupcion-gerona-durante-etapa-puigdemont-201709190933_noticia.html

>Police enter Unipost office in Terrassa to confiscate referendum materials.
vilaweb.cat/noticies/la-guardia-civil-escorcolla-loficina-dunipost-a-terrassa-enmig-de-protestes-sense-ordre-judicial-referendum/

>Radical marxists from CUP demand local police to disobey government orders.
elmundo.es/cataluna/2017/09/19/59c14695268e3ede1b8b4799.html

>Catalan majors called in by court refuse to attend.
elmundo.es/cataluna/2017/09/19/59c1009346163f34198b464b.html

>False anti-referendum signs spread around towns and cities in order to devalue the mainstream parties.
abc.es/espana/catalunya/abci-aparecen-carteles-falsos-y-pp-favor-no-referendum-para-incentivar-participacion-201709191153_noticia.html

>There will be an estimated 1,5% raise in public worker wages.
abc.es/economia/abci-senadores-suben-15-por-ciento-sueldo-para-2018-201709191737_noticia.html

>Chaos in airports as RyanAir cancels hundreds of planned, paid flights.
abc.es/economia/abci-ryanair-publica-todos-vuelos-cancelados-hasta-proximo-28-octubre-201709191035_noticia.html

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No beaners, sandniggers or protestant netherlands allowed.

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>Italy
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>Catholic Netherlands
>Ireland

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Puigdemont BTFO

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Are there any reasons why Catalonia wants to be independent apart from obvious economical one?

It's all a cover so the Generalitat can keep being corrupt without the population noticing, they just caught Puigdemont in a corruption scandal. Investigate Artur Mas and Jordi Pujol Ferrusola.

Yes, indoctrination and leftist propaganda for the last 30 years

You could say the economic situation is only an amplifier for the nationalistic sentiment. Put it this way: if the economic situation was decent, the independentists movement would lose a big, big part of their argument. However, they do have a distinct culture and there are always nationalists where there's a nation. Catalonia has always been quite different and it's not the first time they certainly disagree with Spain in more than one way.

Economic and corruption issues in Spain are easy platforms for them to build nationalistic sentiment on.

how can non-galicians even compete?

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p*ta espanya

I love you too, Josep.

>No beaners, sandniggers or protestant netherlands allowed.
>protestant netherlands

kek

they can't my Suebi brother

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What would you guys do about regionalisms?

They just can´t my man.

make independence parties illegal

>tfw the KANG will never stop october 1 by waltzing into catalonia with tanks after bombing it
C'mon felipe

Why don't Spaniards like us? I always ally with you swarthies in EU4 against France.
What gives?

because you are pirates

What have we stolen? You can't conquer vast swathes of territory in the Americas and then claim "no fair, no fair" when another power overtakes you.

Why have you got a green Welsh dragon in that flag?

Historically it should be obvious why. Right now it's because of drunk british tourists, the fact that you never miss the chance of calling us moors...

Don't think any Brit irl has ever used the word "moor" to describe a Spaniard.
>drunk British tourists
Can't argue with that.
>historically
What? Competition between colonial powers?

>divorced Catalina de Aragon
>sunk our ships with gold
>supported independence of our colonies (although we helped the US with their independence, but it's worthy to note that the US were also anglos at that time and backstabbed us and also supported independence of our colonies)
>US: Imposed the Monroe Doctrine on south america
>US: Falseflagged USS Maine to take Cuba... from us
>Eternal competition (see Portugal)
>Black Legend

>divorce
Boo-hoo.
>sunk ships
We need booty.
>America
Not British after they became independent.
>Black Legend
We aren't hung-up on "Perfidious Albion".

RETURN THE ROCK

No. It's tiny and it has monkeys. We will keep it.

Americans were still Anglos after the independence even if they were not British, If you want IRL Spaniards to like you, you just have to solve the drunk tourists issue, because it's the thing people see the most and the one that affects them the most. About Sup Forums, there's usually only hate towards America because of the reasons previously mentioned, there's usually no beef with anglos unless you start it first, we have a bunch of anglo-spaniards in the Discord.

Oy vey, it´s another shoa!