Kyoani

Why does a majority of Sup Forums dislike Kyoani?
They're good and you know it. You just hate what's good, don't you?

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I think you'll find that the majority of Sup Forums doesn't actually agree on anything.

You got it backwards. The majority of Sup Forums loves KyoAni.

overrated studio with vocal fanbase and daily circlejerks

Didn't Hiroyuki officially call it Sup Forums's favorite studio? Sup Forums is just a tsundere.

But I love Rikka!

So basically every major animation studio

he's not Sup Forums, he's not even Sup Forums

I want to caress Rikka in my arms in her most fragile moments; pressing her warm body against mine while telling her everything is going to be okay.

kyoani used to be great
pic related was the consensus a very short time ago
but they've starting making fujoshit and retarded supernatural action shows since then

They were pretty well-liked in the early 2000s and then graduated to being indisputably god in anime form from about 2006-12. Post '12 they've had a few good shows, but nothing that's caught on fire like Haruhi, Lucky Star or K-on.

Note how since Kyoani decided to strike out on their own with their own licenses, all the major hits since then have been not theirs, besides Free which is rather niche and literally no one even talks about anymore, while you still have Haruhi/K-on threads nearly daily and can get an FMP thread going if you tried.

Their moeshit is great but that's about it. They can't do action shows. FMP doesn't count because it was fucking 10 years ago.

You got it backwards. The majority of Sup Forums hates KyoAni.

>majority of Sup Forums dislike Kyoani

From what I see, Sup Forums loves Kyoani

They're the definition of playing it safe.

>I have an attention span of 2-3 seasons max

>listening to stalker threads

No they're not

>Disliking godani
That's just a meme.

>hiroyuki

This. It feels like they rarely get out of their comfort zone and try something entirely new. I'd love to see them adapt some popular shounen shit manga.

lol

Dude how many other studios you see running their own school or publishing their own LN? The answer is none.

By new I meant new to them. Their style doesn't vary a lot.

>out of their comfort zone
nigga what? it's anime.

They publish their own LNs just so they can keep the profits from merchandise licensing.

They also got it in their head they they're being altruistic and standing up for the little guy in doing this by giving the potential for any two-bit noname in Japan to have his work done by KyoAni.

Problem is, this hasn't really produced great results i.e the sad truth is there's usually good reason they are nonames. Euphonium bucked the trend but in good part because Kyoani changed it; it was so-so material standalone and they made it great, which was a leg-up from their recent problems of taking shit material and making it so-so.

Amagi was pretty okay but really Gatoh's stuff hasn't been that relevant for a while (no new FMP in forever has made it drift out of the spotlight) so it's no surprise it wasn't a smash hit.

99% of their shows are Highschool setting. Mostly clubs.

Most of their characters have very similar designs.

Its almost all slice of life shit.

I can't name one significant KyoAni music track that isn't an OP or ED.

Their filters are overdone as fuck too.

I get that they're also a school and all of their students are playing it by the book, but it wouldn't hurt to teach some crea-fucking-tivity.

Oh, also to correct myself, Hibike isn't one of Kyoani's own works they already owned. So go fucking figure that it turned out halfway decent.

>implying any of those are a bad thing

There are a lot of tracks that aren't an OP or ED like K-on

Still shows they aren't in their comfort zone if they're doing things other studios can't even dream of doing

I hope you don't usually make moronic statements like that.

I tend to like most (but not all) of their shows. I do admit that they have their share of stinkers, like Chuu2 Ren, Kyoukai, and Phantom World.

On a serious note, it's because KyoAni shows generally become popular online, and a significant portion of Sup Forums (or Sup Forums for that matter)'s userbase hates anything popular.

Kyoani is like nickleback, that's fucking why.

They have one song and they play it over and over again with different lyrics.

Nichijou and K-on and Chuunibyou and Free and Phantom world are one song. ok

Just post more Rikka.

ok

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When Is KyoAni going to make something memorable like this?

The Girl Who Leapt Through Time running scene was amazing, why haven't they made something just as impactful when they have the talent?

Instead we get Phantom Shit.

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Don't be retarded you know I'm right

After all this time sucking kyoani dick i still don't know what's the best part of it.
What do you guys think?

They're good but their fanbase thinks they're somehow perfect. Phantom World was as generic as shit can get but Kyoanus lickers were still defening it.

Please, explain to your best ability how other studios have even a little bit of an effect over what KyoAni is comfortable with producing.

>something entirely new
>popular shonen manga

Are you stupid?

Read the thread next time, stupid.

Rikka.

Because Kyoani is doing things you don't normally expect an animation studio would do

Are you deliberately not answering the question, are you too retarded to not understand it, or are you incapable of offering a decent answer?

They did with Nichijou.

They haven't really done anything like that. FMP doesn't count because it was fucking 10 years ago. I think a good studio should be able to adapt any kind of genre and not just light hearted high school with slight romance.

I like kyoani but I thought phantom world was bad. Would've been better if they followed a plot like the last 2 episodes, but instead they made them to be predictable as fck.

to understand*

.Name a studio that does that

I already did you're just being intentionally obtuse seems like

>Kyoani is an animation studio just like others
>other studios don't have their own school or publish their own LN
>Kyoani steps outside that comfort zone and defies expectations by having both

Pretty simple

no we dont.

J.C staff

>meanwhile Sunrise has direct backing from Bandai-Namco for that sort of shit
KyoAni is just trying to ape the shit Based Sunrise is doing but don't have the same level of resources to do so. There's nothing 'different' about the shit they do.

Brains Base

>Sunrise is told exactly what to do by Bandai
>Kyoani bravely sets out to do their own thing independently

See even you agree they are out of their comfort zone. GodAni wins again

I'm seriously having trouble trying to find a reason as to why you're incapable of understanding that I've only been talking about KyoAni's comfort zone and that it has absolutely fucking nothing to do with other studios.
I genuinely can't comprehend how you can be this stupid.

You don't understand how the industry works. Studios matter very little when deciding what to adapt. They matter even less when deciding who will be the director or screenwritter. You have studios like A1 or JC doing all kinds of different shows because they outsource most of the main staff based on the experience they have with X genre and themes. Someone like Urobullshit only knows how to make grimdark shit. Okada knows only melodrama, but they get hired to work on projects based on those skills. KyoAni is different since they don't outsource it's main staff, so their shows end up feeling similar. And they also choose what to adapt. Comparing KyoAni to 'other studios' is comparing apples to oranges. It will be more accurate to compare KyoAni to individuals in the industry.

Just look at other studios that work in a similar manner to KyoAni like Trigger or Shaft, their shows also end up having the same feel and style.

Provide source for every claim you have just made.

I don't know why you're so confused when I keep explaining it to you? They went out of their comfort zone as an animation studio and accomplished things none of their peers could. That's why other studios keep talking about how much they want to be Kyoani.

Or you can stop being a lazy shit and look at anime news network staff databases.

Except they haven't gone out of their comfort zone for five years, which was my entire fucking point.
Holy shit.

They have.

Yes they have you moron look around how many other studios got a school and LN? None. I think the other studios know better than you and that's why they say they want to be Kyoani.

Fuck off you're so stupid.

Burden of proof lies on you.

What do you want me to prove?

Every claim you made.

Despite the bait, Hibike saved anime.

Because it's hipster to hate on a widely accepted studio. Also, we have a high-scale Sup Forums invasion so it explains things.

I guess this confirms Kyoani is the official studio of Sup Forums

From heterosexuals?

Kyoani produces a good anime about as frequently as DEEN but all their shit anime have cute girls so people ride their dick nonstop. Anyone who isn't a fanboy is annoyed with them.

Just to prove my point.
The Sup Forumsermin has infiltrated the Sup Forums ship and things are rotting.

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Production committee get to decide pretty much everything. Including choice of cast and staff. Most studios are just there for the grunt work

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KyoAni is not only part of their own committees but they're the head for their own shows.

Kyoani's been the most popular studio on Sup Forums for 10 years now, so that's going to attract some haters, but they're still the minority.

This thread says otherwise.

Not him but he's generally right. Kyoani has a different way of doing it.

Problem is it hasn't produced that great of results in a while, in good part because Chuu2, KnK, Tamako and Musaigen just don't make for very compelling material. You would think Tamako would naturally hit that "just make another K-on" common sense strategy for success but it really fucking didn't. The material lacked the simple joy and reliability K-on did. Free sold well but didn't really have meaningful impact; who still talks about it these days? No one.

It could be argued that KyoAni's prime was all because Haruhi set things in motion in 06, but Lucky Star rode on that fame a bit in 07 and then K-on rode on Lucky Star's fame in 09 and then kept going in 10. It was Nichijou that fucked up the expected succession somehow in '11. For all their efforts at riding on their prestige, they don't have a lot to show for it anymore and people can only go "remember Disappearance?" for so many more years to defend it.

Not him but, your sources are still, nowhere to be found.

1. They're popular, so it's a Sup Forums standard to hate anything that's popular.
2. Rabid fanboys like you are a fucking pain.

See

You're not getting out that easy, my friend.
Equate each statement to the source.

What you're doing is just saying, GOOGLE IT!

Now, go.

Should've known you were just a troll. Goodbye.

All talk and no bite.

KyoAni haters working overtime it seems.

>reliability
Meant to say "relatability". Might as well expand on that - Tamako isn't as relatable. It was easy to sympathize with Yui from the get-go; episodes 1/2 are so vitally fucking important for that series because they perfectly set you up to both sympathize with Yui's plight and worry enough to need to know what happened to her next.

Tamako's first ep is about a niche baking no one outside Japan does and then a talking bird shopping for a bride for his country's prince. That's not exactly gonna elicit a "fuck, that so could have been me, how does she deal with it" kind of reaction that acted as a hook to break the ice and broaden the interested audience like K-on's.

They have to, there's so few of them they have to pull extra shifts. But still they do it for free

Never liked studios that are pioneers at anti-lolicon fight in anime.

Free has been one of the best selling fujo shows in the past few years. Though I agree the craze has died down, which makes sense since fujos are known for not being that loyal to a franchise for long.

Osomatsu says hi.

Although really I feel that show is pretty enjoyable whether you're a fujo or not, which partially explains its success.

>which partially explains its success
Not really, since males have hardly bought any, so that's irrelevant..

Osomatsu-san is not even a year old.

The thread is not about A1 you idiot.

Their animes are really hit or miss in terms of plot.
But one thing for certain, their standard for quality and their ability to keep it at the same level throughout a whole show is unparalleled among studios.
Not to mention they do this without spending more than another studio within the same season in most case.

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I know because if were A1, we'd be having an original discussion.

>A1 discussion
>"wow A1 sure is shit"
>"I agree user"

Right very original discussion