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>Being alt right
>Believing in organized Christianity

Pick one. Churches are totally cucked. I'm agnostic and left the church because they want you to help nigs and shit like that.

Everyone but fedorafags have a place of worship, no one treats them as safe spaces. Also, isn't le safe space pussy meme severely outdated?

>liberals don't go to church

fuck outta here with your d&c bullshit kike!

Salty right wing with no argument

It amazes me how some libtards are so out of touch with the current political landscape that they think right wingers still congregate in churches and shit like it's the noughties. Most don't even know Sup Forums exists.

sage in all fields

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization

But Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven; this is also why more modern christians like Martin Luther said (I quote):

- "it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

no argument?cry more and get a safespace

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.

Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

Christianity can't cure a disease it caused

Pagan Romans were fundamentally free of the chains of jewish power, so much that they almost exterminated them all in their own homeland after the rebellion of Bar Kocheba

It would be Christian Europe that would fall under permanent jewish influence, with the jewish-controlled churches banning europeans from financing and loaning, giving them as a monopoly to jews

By the modern era, Christians were so throughly judaized, that they started to actively wish for the restoration of Israel so that the end of the world would finally come around and their civilization would die!

And why would it be otherwise?

A religion which such obsession with death, with promise is the end of the world, is fundamentally a time-bomb in the basement of a civilization

Do you really believe that the early christians that embraced their martyrhood to the lions said to themselves "I am dying to this lion so that the white race can survive, fuck jews!" or any such anachronistic reinterpretation that you have decided to give to their death cult?

Reporting for making a non political thread, not actually posting an argument, and being a fucking leaf. Enjoy your ban.

- there is no "white genocide", what is really going is white suicide, with christian morality as its main driver

the abortion issue is a perfect example of white christians openly fighting against their own interests by wanting to increase the birthrates of blacks and other democrat sub-groups that do abort
there are numerous other examples of how Christianity actively makes white self-sabotage, but this one is extremely obvious

Tell me: do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks? (The entire South would be deep blue for starters)

- That Jews took control of european finances and loaning and then global finances by proxy, is another example of how Christian Morality screws whites over
If the Churches had not been issuing numerous bans on white christians from practising usury (which is simply a way of saying "high risk financing"), jews would have never taken over that niche market
far from destroyin them, Christianity made Jews the masters of Europe. The occasional progrom more than paid for itself

- Support for Israel is a third way Christian Morality screws whites over, and it is far from a recent occurance or corruption. As early as 1600s, puritans already believed that a jewish Israel in the middle east was a prerequisite for the Apocalypse

- Christianity does not allow for racial divisions among Christians either "there is no jew or greek" makes it quite clear. Citing Paul made extremely easy for the anti-segregation preachers of the 60s to get the majority of whites on their side

> inb4 Turning the other cheek does not mean pacifism. Slapping someone's face with the back of your hand was an insult for a very long time.

no it wasn't. that shit was made up by radical black-nationalist liberal theologist Walter Wink to justify social rebellion in South Africa.

There are NO sources to it outside his books, nothing of what Josephus wrote about life in the ancient Middle East mentions anything close to offering the cheek or giving to your enemies your coat being an insult

Only a christian could claim something as absurd as love for his enemies

Only a right-wing christian could take that absurdity to the next level by killing his enemies while declaring his love for them

Question for Sup Forums "christians" claiming that the Pope is the anti-Christ

How would you prove that interpretation of "do not resist evil" by Pope or any mainstream christian leader is twister and out of context?

The context of the story is how christians should behave the opposite of gentiles, who love their friends and families, and hate their enemies

The larger context is a Gospel where all the main figures mentioned allowed their enemies to kill them without slaying them back: Jesus, Peter, Paul

What is true context of the paragraph?

How do you turn "Do not resist evil" into "FUCK OFF MUSLIMS!"?

YOU are the Anti-Christ, Christian of Sup Forums. You deny the words of Jesus because you don't wanna give up your earthly interests.

You "christian" people of Sup Forums/ seem to believe that Paul the Pharisee and Peter the Jew the grabbed their swords and killed the romans that wanted to execute them, come on

They were well aware that their religion demanded them to be submissive to their enemies and finally die to them, that is exactly the lesson they wanted the goyim to learn

Look, I know that you actually don't believe in the whole "infinite treasures in Heaven" thing, so you are trying to justify fighting for survival in this world where you can get actual treasures, but don't try to rewrite history please

>Christian do not physically or verbally attacks if a non-christians enters a churhc
>liberals are actually doing to every dissident in their safe space
>leaf think it is the same.

In the Greek-Roman world, love meant "common feeling of mutual interest born out of shared experiences"

Early Christians expanded it to a commandment of loving people that we don't know, that we don't care about, just so that we can fill ourselves with misguided pride about how we are friends of mankind itself

and then come right-wing christians to twist tthe meaning even more

so here they want us to believe that the Crusaders loved every single damn person that they slaughtered in Constantinople

Because, according to Sup Forums christians, Love is not about shared interest, it is about telling to yourself "how I love that guy" right before cutting his head off

dude, if you wanna hate your enemies, just do that, and stop mentally masturbating about how better and so much more heaven-deserving you are than your enemies because you somehow declared that you loved him while killing him

christian semantics are enough of a mess as they are, and then Sup Forums christians wanna add an extra layer of absurdity and mental masturbation

Paul was anti-natalist, as things like wife and family would get in the way of getting people to worship his jewish god

> 8 Now to the unmarried men and women, and for the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
> Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
> 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

That christianity is about "family values" is a meme. The main concern of every christian is the spread of this virus-like cult at the expense of their own tribe

> "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't become my follower me"- Jesus

the organic self-sustaining self-interested self-preserving society that Sup Forums wants is fundamentally incompatible with the "do not save for tomorrow, leave your family and spread my cult" dogma that both Jesus and Paul saw as the main duty of a christian

If Christianity is a religion of earthly power, why didn't it save the Western Roman Empire then? Why did Saint Augustine wrote that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?

Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?

Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?

That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying

and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?

why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?

The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches actively cucking for the destruction of the West

The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!

Jews are a very successful group that has become successful by monopolising finances through ethnic networking and promoting ideologies that demonize their own actions so that the goyim won't copy their success

so they promote anti-nationalistic Communism among the goyim while endorsing Zionism for themselves

that is why they promoted universalist Christianity among the goyim while keeping Judaism for themselves, and including it as the Old Testament within Christianity, so that they would remain the most important people of the world.

So there is no real contradiction once you understand how Jews work: Do as I say (Christianity), not as I do (Judaism, Old Testament).

then christians wonder why Jews dominate them!

> le Jesus was violent this one time so we have to ignore "love your enemies" meme xDDDD

Sup Forums christians are right that Jesus didn't promice peace and niceness, he promised suffering and war

The core of the issue is what are the targets of the sword of violence he promises:

- people of your own household. Father against Son. Mother against Daughter
- money changers that were not hurting him or attacking any of his followers at all, and were the only way people that lived in a far away places of the empire could exchange their money to local currency and donate to the temple. Money changing has nothing to do with Money Lending. Money lending would not become the main economic function of Jews until 600 years later, when the Church banned the goyim from high-risk financing

For your enemies, he wants you to love them and to lend them everything they expect to you.

When his enemies arrived to arrest him, Peter tried to defend himself with the sword. Jesus reprimanded him for misunderstanding him, and then promised that Peter would deny him 3 times that night .

And why would Peter do otherwise?

Peter realized that he would die: "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom really is not of this world"

Of course he was going to fear for his life. He realized that Christians were never supposed to get power.

The religion never worked like that. His kingdom is NOT of this world. That is why Paul didn't try to create a crusader state. Because the only stable, non self-contradicting position christianity can take is the one of a pacifist paranoid minority that is protected by the weapons of someone with will to power.

"The meek will inherit the Earth" becomes a declaration of suicide when adopted by the strong

Quick rundown

>no liberals go to church
I cant count all these shekels you've deposited

> le catholics aren't christian meme

this is an even greater point that can't be ignored

as soon as christians get rid of atheists, pagans and heretics they will be back to killing each other over what the insane kike Jesus actually said or not

Jesus promised that he would break families apart and that is exactly what his absurd declarations of war against nature do

May this post further damage the reputation of the leaf

Early Christians seemed to believe in what you call "fake liberal christianity". It is not a surprise: Sup Forums christians call citing what Jesus actually said "strawman"

Let me guess, what Jesus actually meant the opposite of everything he said!

When Jesus stopped Peter from attacking the Romans and asked him to follow his example and carry his own cross instead, do you believe that Jesus actually meant the opposite?

That he actually wanted Peter to start a revolt and start killing Romans? That he wants his followers to be assertive and defeat their enemies military?

When Paul said that you should never revolt against your Government, Paul was talking the opposite as well? That people were supposed to fight against The Romans to create the Kingdom of Earth and Deus Vult?

It is you who has created a religion in which Jesus always means the opposite of what he said, and early Christians were wrong

yet you call me pointing that out, strawmanning somehow

Do you even know what a strawman is?

This when's the last time you saw someone in San Deigo go to church? Hell compared to the 60s you could probably go there and ask * Oh hey, so where is your local church located? With them responding what's a church?*

that liberals agree with Christianity is very easy to prove: they always attack the poor christian understanding of Science, but NEVER the morality of it

That is how liberals are so successful at portraying republicans as hypocrites for believing in a republican Jesus that loved guns and loved the rich and wanted lower taxes

if only Christianity was only about believing the Earth is 6000 years old!!

the main problem is that christians believe that a Jewish War God will destroy the Earth to save the people that "mentally talked to him in the correct way" whatever the FUCK that means, and then bring them to an utopia where they will worship him every damn second of eternity

who the fuck would want to live in such a jewish dimension of eternal servitude is beyond me. Even death and vanishing forever sounds like a superior option.

He knew taking up a sword against the romans was futile, that's playing their game and continuing the violent age of the bull. He knew the way to defeat them was bearing your own cross. Turning the other cheek doesn't need some elaborate explanation about left hands vs right hands, it was completely clear to me the first time I read it as a boy that He's talking about the strength you can show by not being threatened by violence. I have literally turned the other cheek and it was by far the most effective way of dealing with that particular situation, it showed more strength than any violent retribution and raised my influence and social status among those who were there.

It's a long copypasta referencing slave morality and Christian Zionism. Both are pretty much only practiced by burgers and burger influenced new age churches. You can construct a narrative justifying anything which is part of the reason why a common faith in some base narrative is required to build societies.

Christianity is the exact opposite of that.

old paganlarp pasta.

> Both are pretty much only practiced by burgers and burger influenced new age churches.

lol no
voanews.com/a/orthodox-patriarch-refugees/3287495.html

Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of Orthodox Christians, is urging Europe to stop trying to divide what he calls economic migrants from asylum seekers.

Bartholomew is scheduled to visit the Greek island of Lesbos on Saturday along with Pope Francis, and Athens Archbishop Ieronymos, the head of the Church of Greece, to raise awareness about the troubled state of refugees and migrants in Europe.

The symbolic visit is intended to reiterate the Christian moral duty to show hospitality to strangers, Bartholomew said in an interview published Friday. He added that countries in Europe should find inspiration in the generosity shown by Lesbos residents.


daily reminder that the orthodox patriarchs are exactly the same shit , and they have repeatly condemned right wing movements like Golden Dawn

But why would it be otherwise?

Christianity is about self-cucking

I literally quoted Martin Luther, your claim that it is "only the burgers" is absurd

Go to a church and start talking about how Jesus wanted them to reject refugees and embrace their self-interests, then tell me how that turned out

Only if you redefine inaction as strenght, which is not really surprising given that Christianity inverts all definitions

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>using the term alt right unironically

I just come to Sup Forums for the memes, there's actually very few Sup Forumsacks who are knowledgeable about traditionalist politics (Maistre, Burke, Codreanu, etc); the fact that retards like Varg have such a following here is telling enough.

earth is a safe space from the suns infrared rays
leave earth if your not a pussy

>redefine inaction as strenght
To turn the other cheek was the guiding principle that defeated the Roman empire and gave Europe their freedom back, hardly inaction. You clearly don't understand the mechanisms of how that was accomplished but the results speak for themselves. Don't allow violence to rule you, the solution to muslims and niggers is clear enforced boundaries as described in the Bible, yes sometimes ideals aren't applicable and the state needs to resort to violence but that's not the same as a return to the world of tooth and claw that dominated the world before Christ.

who the fuck goes to church to feel "safe"
you go there to feel shame.
you go there to feel like shit for the rest of the week.
you go there because you've started having unhealthy thoughts about your neighbour's wife.

fuck i miss having a decent church.

ironically the christian was right, but i really wish she wasnt. abandoning christ let in the sodomite tsunami, the muslims and the jews causing social decay, which is the work of satan.

I'm not christian though.
I'm agnostic.

> that defeated the Roman empire and gave Europe their freedom back

What the fuck does that mean?

Freedom back??

Do you really believe that the loss of North Africa to Islam, that mongols raids that enslaved millions, and the turks taking Constantinople somehow meant that "Europe was free"??

That Greece being occupied all the way to 1832 is somehow freedom?

If you believe that the Middle Ages were freer than the Roman times, you are completely nuts


Gallileo, Copernicus and Servetus surely wondered what the fuck did you mean by freedom

but then, the inverted christian definition of freedom is perhaps feudalism, so not surprises there

>he confuses physicalism with reality
kek, the 90% of people who do this are literally mentally retarded in the true sense of the word retarded

> le JEWsus was BASED and his teachers were corrupted by KIKES meme

Literally all the followers of Jesus, and Jesus himself were kikes.

Among his followers there were many zealots, the most radical jews of them all, that wanted wars against Rome
But sure, he was "le anti-semite non-kike that kikes hated" right?

Now you are going to talk about how he disagreed with pharisees or whatever.

But why would the pharisees be discussing mosaic law with a non-jew? Never mind, what exactly did he denounce the pharisees for that makes him not a kike? Have you actually read the Gospel?

Can you point to a single value that Jesus denounced that wasn't valid?

Because the denounciations of Jesus were idiotic, insane, even marxist

There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to punish a slut! (Jesus didnt like slut shaming, quite liberal if you ask me!)
There he denounces the rich pharisees and promises the earth to the meek and the poor! (... and marxist)
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to live, instead of embracing death like him!
There he denounces them over a disagreement on how Mosaic Law is applied! (but Jesus was not a Jew I swear!!!)

You blindly may say "he disagreed with the kikes" as if that was something we needed to applaud!

I have to ask you "christians" of Sup Forums, what are these supposed teachings of Jesus that supposedly got corrupted by kikes? "Hate your enemies"? "Save treasures for tomorrow"? "DO resist evil"?

The opposite of everything Jesus said?

I mean really, is "but kikes killed Jesus" your only argument?

Muslims are hated by Jews as well, but Jews are smart enough to use them as a tool. The same way they use the insane anti-morality of Christianity to corrupt the ancient world and give themselves a privileged financial spot!

But if Jews don't like the own poison they created, that means that we shall drink it, according to you!

wtf I guess I love ISIS now!

> le Christianity made the west meme

absolute insane nonsense

western law system are based off Roman Law, which existed before Christianity existed

western languages are based on indoeuropean languages, Malta is the only western country with semitic languages root

Most of the religious symbolism of the West is pagan as well, christian trees, easter, etc

heck, the american constitution never ever mentioned Jesus anywhere, and has the separation of state and church as one of its most explicit declarations

the founding fathers and most of western people for the last 1000 years have been deists. Whenever they tried to take Jesus seriously, things went wrong very fast.

> le Christianity made Europe meme xD

Christianity made Europe... a mess...

That "conversion" of Europe involved a lot of killing of whites and destruction of history and art, even worse, it involved silencing scientists (i.e. Gallileo, Copernicus, Servetus) that went through the Middle Ages, so much that Islam got ahead of Europe during this period

> bu... but the surviving scientists were christians and even talked well of the kike Jesus!!!

see: pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
> According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power.

Now that not being a christian is not a death sentence, most scientists don't give a fuck about pretending to worship a kike

Certainly, if Christianity was pro-Science, it would not be anti-world, and it would have not allowed Islam to get ahead of Europe and almost cuck it completely during the Middle Ages

I mean really: FUCKING ISLAM GOT AHEAD OF EUROPE

Is that the religion that you claim "made Europe"?

You believe in an era where the Islamic World was ahead of Europe, so much that our word for complex mathematics is ALGEBRA, an arab word!

But then, Jesus the Kike promised that.

He said clearly that, while men would love their enemies, men would have their enemies in their own household, so it is no wonder europeans were killing each other until well

> le Jesus wanted us to use swords against their enemies meme xDDD

Jesus stopped his followers from actually using any sword to attack their enemies, and reprimanded them for misunderstanding. When Peter realized that he would go "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom is not of this world" and denied him 3 times.

You may notice that Jesus made two sword references: the second sword reference was very explicit about what would be the target of the christian sword: Jesus didn't promise war against your enemies (that would contradict everything Jesus had said up to this point).

He promised war against your own damn family: "I do not come to bring peace, but to set a man against his own household"

Which is exactly that historically happened, Christians were extremely successful at killing each other and killing white pagans, all while completely failing to recover their Holy Lands from Muslims.

The sack of Constantinople by Christians and the Wars of Reformation between Catholics and Protestants weakened Europe so much that Muslims would occupy the balkans for 500 years,

All of this comes from the fact that Christianity is an inversion of reality, and the only way to claim otherwise is to actively ignore everything Jesus said except 3 or 4 quotes entirely removed from their follow-up verses or any context whatsoever.

You really believe that Paul was supposed to slaughter the Romans and create a crusader state of This World?? That all those christian martyrs got their own damn cult wrong?

ITT: Extremely deluded people that wanna follow the commands of a Jew that promised to make their families divide and even asked them to hate themselves and their own families (!!!!) so that they may perhaps-- have a slight chance of worshiping a Jewish War God for the rest of eternity

Problem is God is real, unlike Socialism working.

>inb4 pagan niggers call me a Jew lover because when they have debates with Christians they get their shit rocked like they did 1000 years ago so when they are stuck in a corner they have to result to calling me a christcuck or a Jew lover.

>What the fuck does that mean?
The story of Hermann / Armenius gives a pretty good insight into the nature of the Roman empire around the time of Christ. German tribes were so completely subjugated their princes were cucked to fight as Roman generals against their own people. Christ gave a way to rebel and it worked.

>Islam aggression
Not evidence of any subversive nature of Christianity.

>Gallileo, Copernicus and Servetus
All Christians persecuted for political reasons by political establishments that felt threatened, like always happens in stable society. All the scientists were Christians and inspired by Christian ideals of discovering ultimate truth to be closer to God.

>catholics=christians
someone needs to do their homework. the catholics are as bad as jehovas witnesses and mormons. their teachings directly contradict what the bible says. they are full of degenerate kike promoters and pedophiles. their existence directly polluted every other denomination. you would be surprised how many things we think are christian but are fabrications of the catholic church. this is why the protestant movement came to be. the bible warns us against ignorance yet this is exactly what the catholic church depended on to stay in power. without the catholic church or jews, who hate christians with a passion, christianity would have helped europe. the rennaissance was the best proof of this, since that was about the same time the catholics started losing power. Hell, even nikola tesla was a christian, and he produced more than einstein who produced nothing but an equation. that was before science was cucked to the jewish leftist athiest agenda. religion explains the why, science explains the how. they knew this for a long time. christianity is not to blame for the white mans problems. we were fine until we abandoned christ. if we return to him he will reward us with peace and happiness.

> catholics are not christians

already covered here:
> scientists back then were christians so christianity is pro-science

covered here:
> Now that not being a christian is not a death sentence, most scientists don't give a fuck about pretending to worship a kike

>>Islam aggression

Islam is a direct product of Christianity

see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_influences_in_Islam

christians dont fight eachother. that is a product of jews and their carholic church. the bible says what church you go to doesnt fucking matter.

> christians dont fight eachother
> it is those damn kiketolics!!.


i rest my case

The connection between the development of science and Christian thought is clear. If you actually read how the great scientists that built the modern world wrote they use Christian language and were always clearly motivated by their Christian inspired search for God. Their fanatical devotion only makes sense in this context. In my country like many others scholarly research or even literacy was not a thing until we got ordered Christian society.

The Greek philosophical concept of the Logos is deeply connected to the development of science. Logic, universal proof and math are derived from it According to the Bible Christ is the Logos embodied, the Word that brings order out of chaos. Over half the original church fathers were Greek philosophers who saw Christianity as their work made practical. Justin martyr the church father said anyone who speaks reasoned truth is embodying the Logos and therefore a Christian. According to him Plato was a Christian.

Modern scientists are materialists which is a symptom of the same problem as being forced to live with niggers, most don't even understand the castles of logic they are putting all their faith in and that materialism is a lie.

>Islam is a direct product of Christianity
Yes it is, that you perceive it as such a threat demonstrates the power of Christ's message even when corrupted.

> The connection between the development of science and Christian thought is clear.

Science developed under Greek Paganism, the Islamic Golden Age and the Industrial Revolution independently of any sort of "Christian Fanatism"

Christians don't have a fucking reason to care about how the world works, this world is of the Devil according to their Master

A scientist has to be materialist by definition, he believes that everything will be destroyed by the Jewish War God, then why care at all?

Why DO you care? What is your skin in this game?


You won no matter what. If an islamist kills you you win eternal life as a martyr for Jesus, if you share your stuff with the poor you win, if Europe falls to their enemies and they oppress you and persecute you, then you will get even greater rewards according to Jesus himself

this. also, god created nature right? so anything outside of the natural order is unnatural therefore unholy. hence, natsoc is the most godly ideology their is as it was based on the workings of nature itself.

>Science developed under Greek Paganism
Heraclitus who defined the concept of the Logos lived in the Persian empire under monotheistic Zoroastrianism. All science is derived from this monotheistic idea of universal objective truth as opposed to the local subjective truths represented by spirits like the Greek gods. Pythagoras developed his theorems to discover hidden relationships which he believed were messages from God, the monotheistic God not spirits.

>Industrial revolution
wat. Modern science developed under Christianity. A clear example of this trend that dominates all scientific progress since the start is Johannes Kepler.
>Kepler also incorporated religious arguments and reasoning into his work, motivated by the religious conviction and belief that God had created the world according to an intelligible plan that is accessible through the natural light of reason.

>islamic golden age
Yet another example of Christian derived monotheism driving the search for truth.

> All science is derived from this monotheistic idea of universal objective truth

A bizarre leap of logic

> there is a universal objective truth
> so there must be some God and it happens to be the Jewish One

The Industrial revolution happened during an age of continous securalization, by the French Revolution the churches of Europe had lost all effective political power.

The founding fathers didn't even make a mention of Jesus in the Bible

They may have been theists in fact, but there is no reason to assume the one true god was the jewish one

Whether Christianity is the correct interpretation of the will of God is a separate argument from whether the concept of God is valid or whether Christianity is a positive force in society.

The base line is an understanding of the basic attributes that the monotheistic concept of God always share. At the core it's the idea that there is ultimate objective truth and we can reach it. It's a valid concept that logic and all science is derived from. That all science derives from logic and faith in objective truth is irrefutably and clearly true, not a leap of any sort. What kind of model will you formulate without logic or faith that logic can be objectively valid?

>The industrial revolution
Was a golden age of engineering and it happened well into the degeneracy that abandoning God caused. Most of the hard science needed for the engineering had already been done.