Let me dispel any rumors you have about anarchism. Im a PhD who teaches at a state school who specializes in anarchism and Marxist theory.
Im aware that this is a very right wing forum and I'd like to share your thoughts with my class the common criticisms of anarchism, since most of my students are either leftists or too scared to dissent. Lets start a conversation fellas.
Nobody gives a fuck commie scum. You're not human your life is worthless.
Alexander Thomas
>PhD who teaches at a state school not a thing. state schools can't afford phd professors and your flag gives you away as being uneducated.
that's one.
two, anarchy is a form of economics, not governance. that's economics 101.
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>protip: don't post it again.
David Lopez
Fuck off commie scum. Your kind is one of the worst.
Jaxon Johnson
>Im a PhD who teaches at a state school who specializes in anarchism and Marxist theory. Ah yes, I see you are retarded Fuck off
Nolan Anderson
could you, in your best way, describe what happened here?
Ethan Davis
You'll get the bullet with the rest of them. Now fuck off, subversive.
Jordan Wright
Sure anarchy's pretty good. If it has private property and anyone who'd violate the NAP is killed, that is.
Jacob Flores
Anarchy and Marxism are exact opposites you idiot.
Kevin Edwards
>Im a PhD who teaches at a state school who specializes in anarchism and Marxist theory hi, my name is dr. emilio lizardo and i'm interested in your ideas. please leave your name and ss# so that i can subscribe to your newsletter.
Isaiah Thomas
Why are niggers retarded from an anarchist perspective?
Dominic Ward
>state schools can't afford phd professors and your flag gives you away as being uneducated.
obviously that's not a thing since I'm evidence of the contrary
>two, anarchy is a form of economics, not governance. that's economics 101.
Anarchy is the state of having no unjustified hierarchies, it has an economic theory but that's not the whole story.
the supposed "left" party runs a candidate who is a card carrying global capitalist. What did they expect?
Exactly how much work do you think is available to someone with a Ph.D in anarchism and Marxist theory?
Aiden Wilson
They aren't the same but they're certainly related. Both are leftist and both have the same end goal which is a moneyless stateless society
Many reasons. Mostly it's due to colonialism, but yes some of it is genetic mainly due to living in an environment that provided them with food (fruits). They didn't have toil with the soil as much as say, the Europeans or the north east asians
Dylan Turner
Why did your little movement begin to protest the second Trump sworn into office ?
Oliver Butler
Im a Professor of Philosophy at a state school. My main interests, what I mainly right about and teach about is Marxism and anarchism.
Lincoln Murphy
two people cannot own something similtaneously collective property is logicallly impossible your entire philosophy is built on false premises and you are retarded
Ryan Collins
What is your thought on race/culture ? Do you honestly believe in multiculturalism, and if so (if forced) then where has it ever been implemented with good results ?
Evan Barnes
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David Baker
I take the Chomsky approach to this. Protesting and attacking people does nothing except make us look like the bad guys.
Nathan Gray
>what I mainly right about and teach about is Marxism and anarchism.
I find it very difficult to believe you are in fact a Professor of anything, given the exceptionally poor quality of your grammar. I'll watch a while before deciding what I think you are.
Luis Gonzalez
Just give me an article and you just lost the game
William Peterson
>Im a PhD who teaches at a state school who specializes in anarchism and Marxist theory. Proof with a timestamp faggot Otherwise LARP somewhere else
Jeremiah Lopez
simultaneously* id call myself retarded but i and u are right next to each other
Luke Brown
>two people cannot own something similtaneously
What is marriage?
>your entire philosophy is built on false premises and you are retarded
List some of those
I think it definitely matters and plays a role in how people think. Ideally I'd like to see such distinctions done away with, but realistically the communes of the future are going separated across racial lines
Eli Jenkins
how does it feel after all that school and work to be called a faggot on Sup Forums trying to standup for your jewish agenda
Gabriel Anderson
that's an incredibly stupid statement but i know that if i debate it i'll get waterfalled by semantics that i'm not familiar with two people can very well own something simultaneously
Xavier Reed
What are your thoughts on the EU and the concept of the type of neo-colonialism we see forming today, where international institutions like the EU, African Union, UN, Nato, Who, Unesqo and other organisations use cultural marxism to steal money for their own lobbyists investment projects ?
How come Antifa served as the advocate for the EU during Brexit and the French, German and Dutch election. How come they still support these kinds of internationalized unions?
Dylan Jackson
Why am I evil because I'd prefer to live with my own race rather than low IQ outsiders who have very anti-social tendencies?
Cameron Mitchell
Sorry about my poor grammar/spelling, Im dictating my posts through siri whilst cooking
Nathaniel Reed
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Jordan Brown
Here's an analogy. What is a house if it has no walls, no beams to support its roof, or a floor? That would be a random pile of planks. A pile may offer protection, in various spots at various times, but a structured house is sound.
Levi Cook
But how come you never protested Obamas cabinet, which was much stronger in terms of both congress and parliamentary support ?
David Rogers
ill bite, I just finished some hw, I have time.
how does the act and labor of organizing workers in order to facilitate production work? is there a voting system? do people who are smarter and more capable organizing things get more goods?
in other words, why work harder for less?
Adrian Adams
I despise the EU as many of you well know anarchism is against large neoliberal organizations that undermine labor.
Again, Im against protesting as a means of achieving our endgoal
You're not. Im not necessarily against segregating communes along racial lines, as long as it's completely voluntary.
William Evans
black and yellow > black and red.
Carter Lewis
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Landon Scott
>I think it definitely matters and plays a role in how people think. Ideally I'd like to see such distinctions done away with, but realistically the communes of the future are going separated across racial lines
Do you believe identity politics should ave replaced group identity, and wouldn't that diminish the effective strength of said working class groups and democracy ?
John Mitchell
>Im a PhD who teaches at a state school who specializes in anarchism and Marxist theory.
Seems pretty counter-intuitive to your alleged beliefs. Oh nevermind that's right Marxists and Anarchists are the lapdogs of international finance. HAHAHA
Anthony Wilson
Obama wiretapping has been confirmed, MSM 100% BTFO
WSJ is calling the Mueller shit a scam >All Mr. Comey’s Wiretaps archive.fo/S8qQG > Did Obama Know about Comey’s Surveillance? archive.is/0IlkP
The hill opinion piece reporting it as spying, look at this headline >It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me archive.fo/5nKVB
New york post >Wiretaps may prove Trump right — and that’s absolutely terrifying archive.fo/OOBUz
Susan Rice admitted to unmasking just last week remember >Trump rips Susan Rice over unmasking, says it’s ‘just the tip of the iceberg' archive.fo/eo8dg
Meanwhile Samantha Powers was unmasking people daily archive.fo/FxKqx
The normies are finally catching up
Josiah Martin
>as many of you well know anarchism is against large neoliberal organizations that undermine labor. catalonia betrayed so many laborers that franco easily crushed them
Matthew Thomas
Anarchists are fundamentally mistaken in believing that a world without unjustified hierarchies would be egalitarian. On the contrary, it woukd be extremely aristocratic. The bravest and most disciplined would be generals, the most productive and pragmatic would be CEOs, the most patriotic, selfless and judicious would be rulers, the most wise would be celebrities, etc. If this were the case these hierarchies would in fact be justified, and the people lower down the hierarchies would insist they remain in place
Julian James
>a state school who specializes in anarchism a you don't see the contradiction...
James Green
First your minions shitpost all over Sup Forums and now this? Don't try playing nice guy with me, son.
Ryan Ward
Fuck it, I'll bite.
Serious question. How can you look at history of Marxism, with one failed state followed by another, and say, "Gee...let's give it another try."
We are not talking about a bad play in football or failing an exam. Marxism has destoryed cultures. It has directly lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of human beings and caused generations of suffering. The very risk of it happening again far exceeds any possible reward.
But you already know this. I could go into detail as to why it has always failed but I'm sure you know that too.
The problem here is that you cannot except the harsh reality. You are blinded by an ideal, a hope for utopia. Things might be shitty and there are things that need to be changed, sure. But Marxism and anarchism has always and will always make things worse.
Henry Hughes
Again, I do not agree with Obama or Trump or any government for that matter. What antifa does has nothing to do with what I teach.
To be honest with you, I think they are controlled by big money interests.
Good question.
>how does the act and labor of organizing workers in order to facilitate production work? is there a voting system?
What is produced is decided democratically by the workers themselves. Certain leaders are elected by the people to guide people in the right direction, but they'd be largely powerless. Basically what we would do is apply the democratic process we use to elect our government to the means of production ie factories offices etc.
>do people who are smarter and more capable organizing things get more goods?
Why would you want more goods? Everyone gets exactly what they need. This idea that you need massive amounts of wealth to be happy is an invention of liberalism.
>in other words, why work harder for less?
That's what we want. We want people to work only as much is required so that everyone gets their needs met. In the end we would like society to be focused on leisure rather than working.
Gavin Gutierrez
>I despise the EU as many of you well know anarchism is against large neoliberal organizations that undermine labor.Again, Im against protesting as a means of achieving our endgoal
As am I, the problem with Antifa is that they destabilize populist elections and prevent dissent from economic and political bondage to international organizations. Racism is just another form of discrimination, there is nothing special about it except that it is a reaction to multiculturalism, the left discriminate people based on their economy and party affiliation. But for all intents and purposes we need to abolish the EU, this is in everyone's best interests.
Eli Parker
>Anarchy >Communism Pick suicide
John Powell
>What is produced is decided democratically by the workers themselves. Certain leaders are elected by the people to guide people in the right direction, but they'd be largely powerless. Basically what we would do is apply the democratic process we use to elect our government to the means of production ie factories offices etc. someone hasnt looked at the data. you are advocating a very sexist system in which women cant vote (not that I mind)
Adrian Wright
and what is your end goal? if it's to be a complete faggot, you're there. unless you are truly retarded and cant think for yourself, theres no way you can actually believe socialism would work, or ever even get a foothold, here in the U.S.
also sage. you LARPing piece of shit.
Julian Long
Getting rid of capitalism would ensure that all hierarchies are justified >Serious question. How can you look at history of Marxism, with one failed state followed by another, and say, "Gee...let's give it another try."
I can say the same thing about capitalism, really.
>Marxism has destoryed cultures. It has directly lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of human beings and caused generations of suffering. The very risk of it happening again far exceeds any possible reward.
Capitalism does this as well.
> You are blinded by an ideal, a hope for utopia.
Capitalism is the most Utopian ideology out there my friend. The belief that anyone can become rich through hard work and that it will be 100% fair? Give me a break.
How would they not be able to vote?
the end goal is a moneyless stateless society.
Cooper Parker
why would you bother dicking around with anarchism when it's logistically impossible to implement in a large modern society? The democratic process does not work in heterogeneous populations
Carson Hughes
and we all just live on each others' niceness and high fives? how can you honestly believe that would last longer than a couple of weeks, at best?
Christopher Adams
>Again, I do not agree with Obama or Trump or any government for that matter. What antifa does has nothing to do with what I teach. To be honest with you, I think they are controlled by big money interests.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Thanks
Daniel Phillips
>Anarchy is the state of having no unjustified hierarchies What makes a hierarchy "unjustified" or "justified"?
Brody Wilson
>I can say the same thing about capitalism, really. Except capitalism has succeeded everywhere, there is not a single society on Earth today that isn't capitalist.
Ryder Price
Practically speaking though, this requires people to make decisions about things they are largely ignorant of. Think about how dull-witted the average person is. Half of people are even slower than that. Imagine trying to get a shop floor to vote on whether to incorporate as an S Corp or a C Corp, and imagine you also have tight production deadlines. Imagine a snap military decision has to be made to repel an enemy advance, but a soldiers congress has to be called before the decision can be made. If you have a PhD you are likely in the top 10% of cognitive ability. Other people ARE as stupid as they seem. They watch sports and listen to kitschy pop music not because society has damaged them, but because they were born like that, with genetically limited cognitive and aesthetic potential
Bentley Anderson
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Jaxson Robinson
It's a front for commies, that's all we need to know. When the balloon goes up and we meet each other in the great free-for-all, you'll die like a good communist.
Jeremiah Morales
explain to me why is it wrong to steal
Owen Hughes
>the end goal is a moneyless stateless society.
How would that even work, we're forced into international cooperation, so there must be a system of exchange with other nations. As for internal labour, what would give workers incentive to work ?
Joshua Young
Fuck off Bruce Smith
Fuck your beard, too
Marxist faggot
John Powell
Where does freedom of association magically stop for you? Paying someone to use one's property to do any non-violent task x becomes illegitimate when/why?
No, no, no, no my friend. You misunderstand capitalism. It isn't fair. It's not supposed to be. A capitalist society is one in which someone with the talent and the work ethic can succeed and move up the social ladder. It offers no promises to how far you can climb and offers nothing to those without drive or talent. It isn't fair because life isn't fair. It's not fair that some salmon are eaten by a bear. It's not fair that some seeds are blown by the wind to places they can't grow. It's not fair that some people aren't born talented enough to be a Tesla, an Einstein, or a Liebnitz. It's about the progress of the species through Darwinian Selection. Do you not believe that competition drives progress in the natural and human world's?
Secondly, do you really think people would be happy with only what they needed? Do you believe selfishness and greed can be bred/trained out of people?
Lastly, what makes you think that voting on how to run a productive enterprise is the correct way to go? What qualifies the janitor to have an equal say in how an automobile factory operates in comparison to a mechanical engineer in regards to design? Or to an accountant in regards to finance? Or to a logistics expert in regards to distributing the cars? Some people do not have the skills, education, or talent to participate in industry like that. How would these companies not go out of business or tear themselves apart from infighting?
Ethan Brooks
How do you pay for leisures or what may be considered "extras"?
Brandon Morris
Its beautiful isnt it? Now that weve realized that society will do what it does we are free to do what we want.
We must break free of the chains of liberalism my brother. The existence of a free state/area today would be world news and govts around the world would be helpless at the thought of its people yearning to be free.
Missile defense systems and new technology give us a way to protect our own preferred way of life.
I hope that someday soon a commune and a fascist area can be neighbors.
Jaxson Hall
i made this one night because i was bored (pic). This is relavent, because when you make your paradise of babbling lunatics with no government or rules, whats gonna stop a foreign country from just stepping through the throw open door and taking over, rendering anarchism pointless?
Owen Anderson
because anarchism is a moral ideology from which good, libertarian policy comes.
Thomas Bell
I went there once. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Not even Jews.
Andrew Price
You're just making the argument for capitalism. It's got all the bad aspects of communism, except in a capitalist system people actually get fed. In Communist systems, you have to wait for 2 days to buy a paltry amount of ham. In a Capitalist system, you can wait 2 days twiddling your thumbs to buy an iPhone while you play on your old one.
And, you're free to buy land and go start a commune. I wonder why people don't do it? Probably because college "educated" Marxists don't actually labor or produce anything outside the context of academia. You have to eat the rich because you've never had to provide for yourself. You're a warm body. You're utterly useless. But im sure you'll be a card carrying member of the party after the revolution....
Tyler Brown
That's a stupid question. More places in the world than not are utterly incapable of defending themselves, yet no outside forces are preying on them. Fuck off commie.
Charles Rogers
>implying the usa wouldn't be fucking hotcakes to the world >implying im some commie
Adrian Wright
Who the fuck said it would be 100% fair by the way? It's fair in the sense that you have a shot. It's only Marxists who want to tinker around with the system and make it so all your blacks and browns and whites and vaginas aren't earning more than one another, inborn differences in capacity and capability be damned.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Why can't they into agriculture now?
Landon Roberts
>war with the richest people in the world who are tied to the interests of virtually every nation via global trade, and who are the most armed and aggressive people in the world is desirable for any group on earth I AM LITERALLY KEKING RIGHT NOW
Jacob Flores
because they are black
Ryder Jones
Also you are a commie. You're a collectivist Borg hivemind faggot. kys commie
Henry Wright
Well, if your delusion of anarchy comes true, wouldn't this be more likely?
Gabriel Edwards
How does government not stealing your money make you have less guns or become poorer exactly? Everything government does results in deadweight loss. Literally everything.
Nathan Brooks
show me your degree
Levi Moore
Including disbanding it. You'll literally just face conquer
Parker Clark
This is exactly what China is doing in Africa right now, you'll see He's saying the first one to organize an army in an anarchist society would be able to take over and rule.
Oliver Young
you're a commie who deserves to hang
Nolan Barnes
that's nice kys and save me some helicopter fuel
Jaxson Lewis
share this
Angel King
exactly apparently i am too, for some reason. got Double Noose™ hanging around anywhere?
Luis Allen
lol fuck anarchy. Fucking John Locke was right on the money with his writings. Take your bullshit elsewhere. Bet you fucking hit any dissidents in your class with bike locks and auto Fs.
Anthony Barnes
You aren't a real anarchist if you work at a state school.
You are supposed to hate the state.
Jacob Adams
there is no brotherhood early christian communes lived under the assumption of near-end-of-the-world and general judgement by God.
nothing less impresive than God will make people try that hard to be equal
pretty people will get laid more, stronger people will have more 'shade', sociable people will have more friend..
rest of them will grow angry and envious, and clever people will start to cheat
all this brotherly concept is constructed by some kind of eternal-optimist with no imagination, and you teach it for money..
even in your utopia there will be caste-system i mean if ALL of the things go right (how often that happens in real life?)
cant go up (formally), cant go down, you play with what you get born into.. loots of frogs and normies will hang themselves
seriously.. even if you commie shit will get 'properly implemented' human race will just hang themselves out of immovable sadness. nowhere to go to, nothing to aspire. why are you trying to sell it as some kind kingdom of heaven? You want a fella-conversation cause it gives you an intellectual boner. Tell me this bonerman - is it worth it? How much is worth "proper implementation"?
we know its not 100milions.. we've done that already thats my question: 200mil ? 1000? tell me
Julian Lee
do you think anyone takes anarchism seriously, including anarchists?
Joshua Lopez
>anarchy >hierarchies Pick one
Owen Mitchell
That's exactly what happened to Mahno Anarchist Ukraine. That and inability to buy or produce ammunition because as soon as they heard these magnificent ideas of no property, literally all capitalists and managers self BTFO'd.
Ethan Flores
>Including disbanding it No place in the world is like that. There are myriad governments weaker than the civilian population of single county of panhandle Florida. k y s c o m m i e
read above dipshit
Luke Jackson
holy shit. you're the guy with the long neck! bet you $50 you are.
Tyler Powell
>tell me this bonerman i fucking love you top kek and all that shit
Brandon Mitchell
GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW
Evan Myers
Speaking of Chomsky and Ed Herman: when they wrote "Manufacturing Consent" back in the late Eighties, they failed to foresee the rise of a Left Wing Bourgeoisie and, indeed, the State Capitalist Progressive Ruling Class that we have today, especially in the Bay Area.
As a student of Marx and the more anarchist Deviationists such as Proudhon, how do you account for this lapse, especially since Chomsky and Herman were so dead-on with "Consent"?