I honestly have no idea why people like tsunderes. Its illogical to like such stupid disgusting trash. You betas like to fucking get dominated by women rather than having a nice waifu to do the chores and keep the house down. Honestly, do you wonder why youre a fuckig virgin?
For example, Onodera is so much better than Shitoge because she os just the better human.
Bump because truth
>You betas like to fucking get dominated by women
But the appeal of tsundere is reluctant and flustered dere, not abusive tsun.
Oh man, I was going to respond but then I saw you were a tripfag so I know you're just shitposting.
Even if I agree about something, you're just a shitposting tripfag.
So what, you go through shit for a girl you can get upfront? Makes no fucking
>durr hurr he has trips so his argument is now invalid
Hoenstly what the fuck. I dont have my trip now does that some how make me not a shitposter? What kind if shitty logic is that?
>Acegoku
Why haven't you kill yourself yet?
The worst part is that I have been posting here for months and i have never had any shit. I come on now and i get this crap.
Drop the trip and everyone is happy.
So you're a beta unless you like living doormats?
Sounds beta as fuck to me.
>Look at how much i responded, dumbass. My first rule is to NEVER delete my trip. I never post without it. In fact, i can prove to you that im not samefagging.
>My first rule is to NEVER delete my trip.
>>I never post without it.
>Honestly, do you wonder why youre a fuckig virgin?
And then you ask why people ask you to drink bleach.
So youre a beta because you like a respectable girl that will do what you say but can still function as a normal functioning member of society? So youre not a beta if you like getting the shit beat of you/abused by a girl you like so much so that she gets used to you and likes you back? What kind if logic is that?
Nips design MCs to be betas so by relating to them, you are a beta
When the fuck did I say that?
Im actually pretty social and make friendss with most people i meet
Yes you're a beta if you go after girls who don't challenge you at all and just act like a mom.
People who like tsunderes are like people who like cats. Affection is meaningless to them unless it's hard won from a normally disdainful or abusive jerk.
They probably didn't get a lot of hugs growing up. Or maybe too many?
Ya i dropped it. I hope one day Sup Forums stops being so fucking retarded about trips and start attacking casualfags/other fucking retards.
This is the funny and probably true. Most people that like tsunderes are just sad.
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>rates SAO a 1 after posting this
I want MAL to leave.
That was the fucking past and is irrelevant to his disscusion. I dont even have my trips up. Oh and please stay on topic, if you stalked me so much you would know i dislike going of topic
>he doesn't like cats
How miserable.
Your past lets us know you're a newfag Redditor who's only exposure to Tsunderes is from Nisekoi.
>That was the fucking past
2 months ago, a bit quick to change your first rule, no?
It's quite easy to dominate tsundere's they only attempt physical dominance anyway it's the bipolar switch.
Hi Sup Forums. My name is Sup Forumsnon, and I have a tsundere addiction.
The thing is, I can justify this preference pretty well. Having been an average edgy high school kid, I quickly grew uncomfortable with both interacting with people I just met (especially women) and developed trust issues about whether someone really hates me behind my back etc.
A tsundere shows you her worst side first, the ugly violent verbally abusive side. No matter how bad they are with this, there's no scheming behind anyone's back, the tsundere does this because of her own nervousness/insecurity. There's an instant sense of comfort when someone I just get to know throws a casual insult my way. They can't get any worse than what they first show you, and there's no ongoing paranoia whenever you interact with them. A tsundere's harsh words are like a violent rainstorm, they bring with them the message that everything will be alright and that sunshine is just on the other side.
Tsunderes are love, tsunderes are life.
Cats are cool, tsunderes arent
I love to use nisekoi because the shittiest popular tsundere of an ongoing series is there. And on top of that, the best girl is in that show and she is going to lose. What a train wreck
I only see a doormat though
Because a proper tsundere is just a girl who gets frazzled when the subject of love comes up and tries to hide it maybe with a mild insult or something
SOMEHOW it's got to the point where tsudnere's have all become girls who resort to extreme violence while shouting URUSEI!
I don't really get the appeal of the so-called "bipolar" tsundere where the tsun and dere continuously alternate, but I do get the appeal of the tsun then dere type as a plot/character progression. Bipolar abusers are no fun, but a girl with insecurities that slowly opens up over time in a consistent progression is often excellent.
Either way, mai waifu is full dere-dere type, so I don't really have a frame of reference.
If a bitch touches me I wont be fucking attracted to her. I have too much self respect for myself. Oh well, im not alpha but betas sure are insane.
Fuck off, Acegoku, you are legitimately a derp_commander tier poster.
ITT: OP reveals his limited exposure to tsundere characters.
Good tsunderes are typically agreed upon when "tsundere" is just an aspect of their personality rather than being the entire defining aspect. When it makes sense in context and for character development, that's when it's good.
A mild insult is ok. Im fine with that. Tsunderes popular now are fucking horrid.
I dont get either. One is where the girl is retarded and the other is where the MC is retarded enough to stick to an abusive bitch until she gets used to him.
Both are disgusting.
>the other is where the MC is retarded enough to stick to an abusive bitch until she gets used to him
Well, they're not always that bad. I've always liked the teasing/trolling tsundere type. The physically violent ones are a total turn off. But if you take someone like Kurisu (SG) or Mion (Higurashi) - they were never really abusive, just teases/trolls/passionate.
But user they will be a mom after I get her in bed.
ITT: Little faggot who is too beta to like a proper fucking girl and projects his masochism onto his interests tell me im not an expert.
Hey buddy, shut up.
There are good tsunderes, no doubt, but the amount of them that are cancer just makes the whole fucking trope garbage.
Have you ever seen me post before? Ya, no.
ITT: Little faggot who is too beta to like an interesting girl and instead goes with a boring doormat.
Nice pasta.
Fuck you are gay as shit if you think a girl is a doormat for being sweet. She is only acting like that because she is shy and wants to make you like her. Insulting me/making me feel sad isnt a challenge
>doormat
See:
There is being sweet and there is being a doormat. Onodera is the latter
>but the amount of them that are cancer just makes the whole fucking trope garbage
Where is the logic in that argument? Are all slice of life shows bad because of a few poor examples? Is all of anime bad because there's some bad anime produced?
Sounds like pretty convenient thinking to justify easily dismissing an entire archetype.
>Onodera is so much better than Chitoge
Nice shit taste.
>a proper fucking girl
Whoa shit guys, we got someone who knows that a "proper girl" should be. You sound like you'd make a great partner for any girl out there. They all need a guy like you.
How isn't a shy girl that just cooks and cleans for you a doormat?
>Have you ever seen me post before? Ya, no.
What sort of an assumption is this? Yes, I fucking have. You were absolute cancer in SnS threads, and every time I've run into you since I dropped it has been an unpleasant reminder that fucking retarded underage fags from MAL are posting their shitty opinions all over Sup Forums.
>Just cooks and clean
Hey moron, she will obviously have a job, get kids, and socialize with other women. Imagine a normal women that treats you like a human.
Holy fuck, onodera is objectively better. There is no comparison with her and the gorilla.
Well there are certain guidlines women should follow to be considered good or else they are damaged goods. Im not saying im perfect, so nice assumption but Im just saying what makes the ideal female partner.
So she has to get a job, have kids, socialize with other women, while also doing the chores and keeping the house down?
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Fucking kill yourself, nigger. You've been here like a year now now and you're still making the same shitty threads about your garbage taste.
Both Megumi and Onodera are boring as fuck normalfag bait, by the way.
S nS? As in Shokugeki no soma? I literally just say megumi is better than erina and I leave. I dont start shit.
Once again, 99%of tsunderes are trash. Thats why im generalizing.
Onodera is just sweet because she has a crush on the dude and is shy to strangers. Look at how she acts around with friends, is that doormat? No. And the shit creator is stopping her from developing, she has the potental to be more outgoing
Hey now, the choice isn't between cliche tsundere and muh traditional conservative housewife. Some of us like genki.
>S-SHE'S NOT A DOORMAT GUYS!
>THE AUTHOR JUST HASN'T DEVELOPED HER YET!!!!
>She's not shit, she only seems that way because of the creator writing her as shit!
>blaming the mangaka for a girl being shit
She's a fictional character. The creator can't misrepresent her or anything - if he makes her shit, then she is shit.
Im just saying that logically she should be more outgoing. The creator is just so fucki g autistic that he knows, if he lets her get out of her shell just a bit, she will not only take MC but kill the gorilla in the process.
Yes. My mother is able to do that and so should any women. In fact, she doesnt need to have a job
Here is your answer: >normalfag bait
That was fucking cancer. Holy shit you need to reread what you just said. Im a normalfag because I like sane women?
>Yes. My mother is able to do that
She did a great job with the have kids part.
I like genki, but you can't jab at tsundere for being cliche and then promote genki. The archetypes are all ciche, that's sort of how they work.
>logically
Doesn't matter, this isn't real life, learn how stories work.
This.
You're a normalfag because you're unable to differentiate between real life and fiction, like all tsundere haters.
Also, don't you fucking dare call someone else cancer, you piece of high-school shit.
>sane women
Doormats aren't sane, user.
Well thanks. We are 4, me being the eldest and we are doing just fine.
Logical is how an piece should go. Make your characters feel like humans.
I still dont agree. Tsunderes are only decent if they first show their moe to the MC and arent abusive (maybe an insult). Oh and they should also learn their fucking place when it comes to the MCs lifes/choices
Which Megumi are you talking about again?
So you DO like mediocrity, right?
>Thats why im generalizing.
You're missing the point. You're actively saying that you're perfectly fine with generalizing based on an archetype rather than evaluating based on evidence.
Onoderafaggot with a terrible shitty taste
Yeah she did a great job if she was looking to get autism bucks from the government.
>highschool shit. Shut up. Also, i can differentiate reality with fiction but more realistic characters are better
>tsundere haterz
Bwaahahahahahhahahaha are you a fuckig child?
Yes they are. They do what is needed to do and love who they love.
Can confirm, I don't remember any instances when my parents or any of my relatives hugged me.
That said, my new cat loves me.
>My mother is able to do that and so should any women.
Remember guys, this kid's mother is the archetypal, representative mother. If HIS mom can do it then EVERY other mom in the world should be able to do it!
Sup Forums is 18+.
Megumi from SnS
The evidence is clear because she IS a tsundere.
Holy fuck tell me one reason why onodera is worse than the gorilla.
Immature.
>I dont have my trip now does that some how make me not a shitposter?
Yes. Good job. Just want to let you know I'm actually really proud of you and I hope you have a nice day.
There's nothing dominating about it. Tsuns can't even come to grips with their own emotions, the one thing women are supposed to be "good at". It's distilled infantilization.
I don't like tsunderes. Cats are ok, better than dogs at least. Cats are low maintenance and easy to observe, dogs are for people that need doting affection and other outward displays of emotion and dependency.
What OP said is correct, it's sort of an archetype for a person that fetishizes disgust from women with the underlying notion that it's merely a facade
>respecting your mother means youre underage
Holy shit thats why youre a virgin.
We already did, she's a boring doormat fit only to be a normalfag's alienated housewife.
it's the satisfaction of domination user.
would it be a better achievement to bang a slut or subjugating a woman?
Your claim is that tsunderes are shit because "99% of tsunderes are trash".
Rather than watching a show and assessing a character, you just determine that they're tsundere and are thus automatically shit. It's like you're ok with using faulty logic.
The more difficult a girl is to approach, the less likely she will have been with (many) other men. Less past male mates (or none at all) increases the chances that you won't become a cuck. This is at least a rational and sound breeding strategy for those K-selected seeking quality mates.
Also some like the challenge and the deredere afterwards.
>can't even come to grips with their own emotions, the one thing women are supposed to be "good at"
what
>respecting your mother
>My mother is able to do that and so should any women.
>All women should be able to and should aspire to what my mother did regardless of their personal life experiences and motivations.
>respecting your mother
>respecting
>You betas like to fucking get dominated by women
>do you wonder why youre a fuckig virgin?
>Onodera is so much better than Shitoge
>K-selected
Of all the boards, I did not expect to see that term here even if it makes sense.
>I play on easy
ok? Some people don't like a challenge.
I'm pretty sure emotional consistency is just about the last thing women are known for being good at.
If i didnt watch the show i wouldnt be talking about onodera. This isnt towards nisikoi as I gave an example. This is general.
>normalfags
So people who arent virgins?
The slut is the tsundere. In real life this satisfaction is non existant and you will be sitting lonely and broke wondering why you ever went for that shit tsundere
>So people who arent virgins?
Those would usually be normalfags, yes. Why are you here on Sup Forums, again?